Man says police officer threatened to kill his dogs

[Ares]

KANSAS CITY, Mo. – A Kansas City man says he’s been terrified since an encounter with police on Monday evening. He says officers came to his home in southeast Kansas City looking for people he’d never heard of and when he refused to let them inside, things turned ugly.

Eric Crinnian, a lawyer, heard a loud banging at his door Monday night, he was instantly alarmed since a neighbor’s house was robbed a few weeks ago, so he grabbed a crow-bar.

Crinnian said three police officers were outside his house.

“I open the door a little bit wider and he sees that I have something in my hand, so he pulls his gun, tells me to put down whatever I’ve got and then come out with my hands up, so I do,” Crinnian said.

They wanted to know where two guys were, and Crinnian later found out police believed they violated parole.

“I said, ‘I have no idea who you’re talking about I’ve never heard of these people before,’” he said.

To prove it, he said police asked to search his house, Crinnian refused multiple times. He said they needed a warrant.

Then he said one police officer started threatening him saying, “If we have to get a warrant, we’re going to come back when you’re not expecting it, we’re going to park in front of your house, where all your neighbors can see, we’re gonna bust in your door with a battering ram, we’re gonna shoot and kill your dogs, who are my family, and then we’re going to ransack your house looking for these people.”

“If that’s the case and those are the things that were said, I would think those would be inappropriate,” said John Hamilton.

John Hamilton is an Associate Professor of Criminal Justice at Park University and former police officer. He said having a warrant is always the best way for police to search a home, and while the threats aren’t illegal, they might violate a department policy.

“I just think it’s a dangerous way to do policing, because it makes it tenuous when you appear in front of the court in a case like that,” Hamilton said.

Crinnian said he’s never had a problem with police before in his life, and he still has a great amount of respect for the Kansas City, Mo. Police Department. However, he also said he wants the situation investigated, so he filed an Office of Community Complaints Report.

A spokesman for the Kansas City, Mo. Police Department says he can’t discuss ongoing OCC reports and they are investigated internally.

http://fox4kc.com/2013/11/27/man-says-police-officer-threatened-to-kill-his-dogs/

[Cebu_4_2]

Should kick start some fun for him... Wheres palini? All he has to say is he don't have a BC.

[ShortJohnSilver]

John Hamilton is an Associate Professor of Criminal Justice at Park University and former police officer. He said having a warrant is always the best way for police to search a home, and while the threats aren’t illegal, they might violate a department policy.

Stupid cops covering for other stupid cops. Claiming you are going to destroy someone else's property for no cause is certainly illegal, though I don't know the exact turn of phrase.

[midnight rambler]

“If that’s the case and those are the things that were said, I would think those would be inappropriate,” said John Hamilton.

So, spitting on a donut muncher results in being charged with a felony while a state actor making TERRORISTIC threats about killing someone's household members is merely "inappropriate". Nice.

[iOWNme]

Then he said one police officer started threatening him saying, “If we have to get a warrant, we’re going to come back when you’re not expecting it, we’re going to park in front of your house, where all your neighbors can see, we’re gonna bust in your door with a battering ram, we’re gonna shoot and kill your dogs, who are my family, and then we’re going to ransack your house looking for these people.”

If You or I threatened another person with physical violence and MURDER of a family member, we would be violently caged, if not KILLED by the GANG called 'Police'.

If ANY MAN, costume or not, threatens me with physical violence or threatens to MURDER one of my family, i would be in the MORAL RIGHT to DEFEND myself and my family using whatever level of DEFENSIVE FORCE necessary to stop the aggressive attacker. 'Cops' dont want to hear this, because they IMAGINE they are something other than a human. They have been trained to IMAGINE they are a different species with the MORAL RIGHT to dominate his fellow man. Its not that 'Cops' are bad people, its that they have a problem with the wiring in their brain, which stems from the 'belief' in 'Authority'.

You should ALWAYS treat ALL 'COPS' like a dog with rabies. You dont want to make any sudden moves, you want to project that you are not an enemy, and you try and leave the situation unharmed. Its not that the dog is a 'bad' dog, its that he has something chemically wrong with its brain which makes it act out in violence, much like ALL 'COPS'. But the key here is this: Your not 'following his orders' out of any type of respect, dignity, moral obligation or anything else, you are simply trying to not get KILLED.

[palani]

All he has to say is he don't have a BC.

Sittin' and starin' out of the hotel window
Got a tip they're gonna kick the door in again
I'd like to get some sleep before I travel
But if you got a warrant, I guess you're gonna come in

As to the dog killing comment ... perhaps discussing the matter with the ASPCA would be appropriate?

[7th trump]

Should kick start some fun for him... Wheres palini? All he has to say is he don't have a BC.

Heck...... palani also claims hes homeless, doesnt use frn's and drives around in someone elses vehicle..............probably using up their gas since he detaches himself from having anything to do with frn's.

[Cebu_4_2]

Heck...... palani also claims hes homeless, doesnt use frn's and drives around in someone elses vehicle..............probably using up their gas since he detaches himself from having anything to do with frn's.

Obviously doesn't have a driving license. I wonder how that will work out when he gets pulled over.

[palani]

Heck...... palani also claims hes homeless, doesnt use frn's and drives around in someone elses vehicle..............probably using up their gas since he detaches himself from having anything to do with frn's.
Do you have a point? Other than a pointy head of course. Or is this a thread drift?

[palani]

Obviously doesn't have a driving license. I wonder how that will work out when he gets pulled over.
You are causing a thread drift chimphead

[7th trump]

Do you have a point? Other than a pointy head of course. Or is this a thread drift?
Ye without sin....cast the first stone!
I'll admit it is thread drift, but you're the pot calling the kettle black and casting a stone when you shouldnt.

[palani]

Ye without sin....cast the first stone!
I'll admit it is thread drift, but you're the pot calling the kettle black and casting a stone when you shouldnt.

I only have the means to return what you send me pointyhead. If the currency you choose is insults then that is what I have to return to you.

[7th trump]

I only have the means to return what you send me pointyhead. If the currency you choose is insults then that is what I have to return to you.

Still doesnt exonerate yourself from being the pot calling the kettle black.
You could ignore the thread drifts aimed at you but you dont.....you're known to play many kinds of games!

I suppose if you didnt answer questions with silly questions these people wouldnt poke fun at you.
I dont think its wise of you to play games when the subject is law.
People want to know the way out and all you can do is insult them when they ask you hard questions.

My advise to you palani is if you cant give legal advice (we all know thats an excuse out of ignorance of the subject in discussion)..............dont open your mouth saying you have the answer when you damn well cant take the boton all the way to the finish line.

[midnight rambler]

Obviously doesn't have a driving license. I wonder how that will work out when he gets pulled over.

It works like this - YOU DEAL WITH IT, not as some cowardly, frightened child, but as a MAN. Only wards of the state (e.g. idiots, imbeciles, infants, etc.) are in need of any kind of 'license' from their mommy the corporate state.


drives around in someone elses vehicle (sic)

The term drive is strictly a commercial term and ALL 'drivers' are required to have a 'license'*. You'd think someone who supposedly knows better wouldn't use the term 'drive'.

And yes, I frequently am a motorist in/at the controls of "someone else's *automobile*" as well as a matter of course. Like John D. Rockefeller himself said, "I want to own nothing and control everything." And while I indeed have been provided a mission ('house') for my own use, I am without a 'home' myself (so I suppose that makes me 'homeless' as well since I don't 'own' [or suffer the illusion of 'owning'] a 'home' lol). I've also been working on not 'using' (the term 'use' is a commercial term) FRNs (progress has been slow there, it's work in progress since there are so many brainwashed people who RELIGIOUSLY think that FRNs constitute 'money').

*having a DRIVER LICENSE (or state issued ID CARD) makes one a political subdivision of the state - is that what you really want?

ETA:


I wonder how that will work out when you get pulled over.

And FWIW the above quote is a favorite used by not only those in the employ of the collectivist corporate state, but also by sycophants of the collectivist corporate state in their feverish attempts at sucking up to the Beast System.

[7th trump]

It works like this - YOU DEAL WITH IT, not as some cowardly, frightened child, but as a MAN. Only wards of the state (e.g. idiots, imbeciles, infants, etc.) are in need of any kind of 'license' from their mommy the corporate state.



The term drive is strictly a commercial term and ALL 'drivers' are required to have a 'license'*. You'd think someone who supposedly knows better wouldn't use the term 'drive'.

And yes, I frequently am a motorist in/at the controls of "someone else's *automobile*" as well as a matter of course. Like John D. Rockefeller himself said, "I want to own nothing and control everything." And while I indeed have been provided a mission ('house') for my own use, I am without a 'home' myself (so I suppose that makes me 'homeless' as well since I don't 'own' (or suffer the illusion of 'owning') a 'home' lol). I've also been working on not 'using' (the term 'use' is a commercial term) FRNs (progress has been slow there, it's work in progress since there are so many brainwashed people who RELIGIOUSLY think that FRNs constitute 'money').

*having a DRIVER LICENSE (or state issued ID CARD) makes one a political subdivision of the state - is that what you really want?

ETA:



And FWIW the above quote is a favorite used by not only those in the employ of the collectivist corporate state, but also by sycophants of the collectivist corporate state in their feverish attempts at sucking up to the Beast System.

It's obvious you DONT understand how any of this works.
A drivers license does not make anyone a political subdivision......you havent a damn clue what a political "subdivision" even is.....this is more internet conspiracy hogwash.
All a drivers license is is a permit to drive, travel, commute....ect....has nothing at all to do with politics.

If you want to see the where the political side of this starts.....look at what is required to even get a drivers license.
What must you have in order for any state to issue a drivers license?
Any guesses?

Thats right ....a ssn!!
You cannot be issued a drivers license without a ssn.
The political side of this starts with a Social Security number......not any drivers license.

See 5usc 551

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/551

(8) “license” includes the whole or a part of an agency permit, certificate, approval, registration, charter, membership, statutory exemption or other form of permission;
(9) “licensing” includes agency process respecting the grant, renewal, denial, revocation, suspension, annulment, withdrawal, limitation, amendment, modification, or conditioning of a license;

You know your types always use the FOIA to get info from the government and yet fail to understand where the FOIA is even codified.
Its section 551 of title 5 where I get these definitions from.
I tell morons in the tax movement about 5usc 552a "federal personnel" being related directly to participation of Social Security and they scream at me saying I dont know what the fuck i'm talking about....well like you if you just stop and look you wouldnt be the ignorant one passing yourself off as a guru.
Any idea that the ssn is a registration or membership into being a "US citizen"?.....you know the political start of your american socialism.
you apply for a ssn and they give a number to disclose everytime you decide to get government benefits.

Use the link I provided and see if you see the Social Security administration (government agency) being excluded in the definition to "agency".....go ahead i dare you comrad midnight rambler

[midnight rambler]

All a drivers license is is a permit to drive, travel, commute

So you're asserting that one NEEDS a 'license' (a license being a permit to do something which would otherwise be illegal) to travel or commute? And you have the gall to call me a Communist??

YOU are the commie stooge with your sucking up to the collectivist corporate state.

[palani]

You could ignore the thread drifts aimed at you but you dont A NOTICE unrebutted becomes truth. The one who leaves the field of battel first loses. You have left countless times so I guess you lose thou loggerheaded crook-pated puttock!


My advise to you palani is if you cant give legal advice (we all know thats an excuse out of ignorance of the subject in discussion)..............dont open your mouth saying you have the answer when you damn well cant take the boton all the way to the finish line. Have you HEARD me speak a single vowel? Thou art a wretch whose natural gifts were poor.

[palani]

You know your types always use the FOIA to get info from the government and yet fail to understand where the FOIA is even codified. Moreover ... YOU don't understand that only U.S. citizens may demand privileges under the FOIA Thou unmuzzled fen-sucked pigeon-egg!

[7th trump]

So you're asserting that one NEEDS a 'license' (a license being a permit to do something which would otherwise be illegal) to travel or commute? And you have the gall to call me a Communist??

YOU are the commie stooge with your sucking up to the collectivist corporate state.


No, I never asserted you need a drivers license to travel....however you are going to need a state issued id to identify yourself from the corporate leo's so they dont publically execute you for not having a license to travel.
I've always promoted the Bill of Rights come from state citizenship and not this federal citizenship known as US citizens......i even shown you curt cites that agree.
I'm no communist and I have never sucked up to any collectivist state......I'm quite the opposite you twit.
I'm the only one on this board thats actually showing how americans become slaves and what to do to stop it from happening........I'm not the one glorifying soviet communism with soviet aircraft such as yourself.
Your the one who doesnt like the US....you'd rather take the government of communist russia over the US government.

[7th trump]

Moreover ... YOU don't understand that only U.S. citizens may demand privileges under the FOIA Thou unmuzzled fen-sucked pigeon-egg!

Ohhh grasshopper I fully understand....what do you think consists in the FOIA database?
Only thing the government is authorized in that database are the full records of US citizens........."The People" are off limits to government spying and record keeping.

What you dont understand is what causes americans to be US citizens in order for the government. You can easuily see what causes this by studying the Title 5 statutes which you dont beleive in.

[7th trump]

A NOTICE unrebutted becomes truth. The one who leaves the field of battel first loses. You have left countless times so I guess you lose thou loggerheaded crook-pated puttock!

Have you HEARD me speak a single vowel? Thou art a wretch whose natural gifts were poor.

Ditto dumbass....I can play your silly game as well.
Have you heard me say one word?
If not then how can you say I left first to lose the battle you dickhead?

You cant it both ways asshole!


Maybe your BB gun wasnt suffient to go against my rifle?
Maybe I didnt respond because it wasnt worth responding to.
Most of the time I can easily say you had no claim for which releif could be granted.......meaning your arguement was meritless....didnt have an established point to grant a conclusion.

Heres my point with the drivers license.
You beleive you can travel without a license.... i beleive the same thing as well but theres a problem. The state will find you driving without a lincense and fine you.
You beleive you can just say I'm a sovereighn and dont need a license to the LEO and the LEo is going t osay ...ok.... and send you down the road.......wrong!!
Thats not going to work very well and could get you executed on the spot. See your claim you are a sovereign is meritless because you cannot prove you are otherwise.
Just like the mountain man being charged for fishing without a license.

[palani]

Ohhh grasshopper I fully understand.
Yep. You understand. You are responsible so thou hath not so much brain as ear wax.

[palani]

Have you heard me say one word? I have never claimed to have spoken to you whom confusion now hath made his masterpiece!




You beleive you can travel without a license Indeed? And where have you derived such a belief about MY beliefs?

i beleive the same thing as well but theres a problem. Thou appeareth nothing to me but a foul and pestilent congregation of vapours.



You beleive you can just say I'm a sovereighn and dont need a license
Indeed? And where have I written this to give you such a belief thou wayward fool-born miscreant?



See your claim you are a sovereign is meritless because you cannot prove you are otherwise. Show me where I made such a claim. You are a shallow cowardly hind, and you lie.