NYC may mandate flu vaccines for all daycare, preschool student

[mick silver]

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A flu shot may soon be required for all NewYork City daycare and preschool kids.
New York City health officials willdecide Wednesday whether to adopt a proposal (http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/downloads/pdf/notice/2013/noi-article43-47.pdf)that would require all childrenunder 5 who are attending one of these childcare facilities to receive a flu shot by Dec.31 of each year, before flu season peaks.
“A lot of people have a misconception that the flu is justlike the common cold and nothing that needs to be worried about,” Dr. JayVarma, deputy commissioner of the New York City Department of Health and MentalHygiene, told CBS News. “In fact, flu is common and can be very serious forchildren under the age of 5,” he said.
Varma estimates the mandate would prevent more than 20,000 cases of flu in young kids.

Under the proposal, a daycare or preschool can choose to exclude a childfrom their facility if he or she doesn’t get the vaccine. If the facility does not keep up to date vaccination records for its kids, it could be subject to a fine.

Mandating a flu vaccine for young children is uncommon.Varma noted that only New Jersey and Connecticut have similar requirements for some schools.

Mandates for other childhood vaccines (http://www.cdc.gov/VACCINes/vac-gen/laws/default.htm), however, are more common. InNew York City, children of these ages are already required to receive common vaccines including the MMR (measles, mumps, rubella), polio, pertussis(whooping cough), chickenpox and tetanus shots.

Varma says this will bejust one more vaccine added to that list, except flu tends to hospitalize andkill more children each year than any of those conditions.
He estimates this mandate would cover about 150,000 NewYorkers younger than 5 years old.
The requirement won’t apply to family daycare, where someonewatches children in their own home. The only allowable exemptions are medical, when people have rare side effects to vaccines or conditions that prevent them (http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/should-not-vacc.htm#flu) fromreceiving one, or religious, which would have to be verified by areligious official.
New York State does not allow philosophical exemptions, suchas over fears of vaccine side effects. Varma said that’s a good thing, since philosophical differences were behind some reported upticks in diseases (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cdc-vaccine-philosophical-differences-driving-up-us-measles-rates/) like measles for some parts of the country.
Flu season generally starts (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/doctors-say-back-to-school-plans-should-include-flu-shots/) as early as October,with the number of cases increasing dramatically by December and theseason often peaking from Januarythrough March, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
A flu season can range in it’s severity, but children andthe elderly are often hit hardest. In the previous 10 flu seasons before last year's epidemic, between 43 and153 children have died from flu in the United States, according to federalestimates, with an average of 20,000

children under 5 hospitalized. A recent study found more than 40 percent of child flu deaths between 2004 and 2012 were in previously healthy kids (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-than-40-percent-of-child-flu-death-victims-were-healthy-study/) without anypreexisting chronic medical conditions.
Last year’s severe flu season -- which started aseveral weeks earlier than typical -- killed at least 165 children. So far,three children have died in the milder 2013-2014 flu season, according to CDC estimates (http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S1).
The flu vaccine isn't perfect, as Varma concedes. A flu vaccine tends to have an effectiveness rate within the 60 percent range. (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cdc-flu-vaccine-62-effective-47-states-report-widespread-illness/)

But, he says young children areespecially at risk given they are surrounded by other little kids and may notbe engaging in adequate hand-washing. He also pointed to potential community benefits, such as preventing disease transmission to othermembers of the family -- especially the elderly -- or keeping more kids at school and their parents at work.
The process to mandate flu vaccines for New York City’syoung children started with a proposal the Board of Health considered inSeptember, Varma explained. It was then opened to public hearing and comment.The Dec. 11 hearing is the period will the Board will hear the publiccomments and decide whether or not to formally adopt the measure, which wouldthen be enacted 30 days after approval.
Given the end of December is weeks away, this mandate would go into effect until next year.
The city’s health department currently inspects these childcare facilities for safety violations, and Varma sees this as yet another way toensure kids’ safety.
“We feel strongly that we are doing somethingthat’s always been done to protect the health of children,” he said.

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[Serpo]

And these bastards I hate more than the BANKS if thats possible ,but it is.

[Dogman]

Dastardly thing to do to those kids! Seeing they suffer already!

As any parent knows that kids are germ factory's when put together in per-schools/schools or mixing with other family's kids. And then come home so the parent's catch what ever the germ of the week/month is at the moment!

It is totally unthinkable that anyone would want to force vaccines on the young like that!

[Twisted Titan]

What for the jewish exemption and use it.

[Twisted Titan]

I didnt even read the article before posting here it is.

The requirement won’t apply to family daycare, where someonewatches children in their own home. The only allowable exemptions are medical, when people have*rare side effects to vaccines or conditions that prevent them*fromreceiving one, or religious, which would have to be verified by a religious official.*



All you have to do is say MY RABBI FORBIDS IT and thats the end.

[Cebu_4_2]

or religious, which would have to be verified by a religious official.

Verified, that might be hard to come by...

[Shami-Amourae]

What for the jewish exemption and use it.

We had to take mandatory vaccine shots to graduate the Cal State Universities in California. I petitioned that I couldn't because of my Orthodox Jewish faith and they excused me.
:eek:

[madfranks]

All you have to do is say MY RABBI FORBIDS IT and thats the end.

That's the truth! If only it were that easy to get out of Obamacare!

[7th trump]

That's the truth! If only it were that easy to get out of Obamacare!

Use what TT has said and proclaim your faith as a muslim and poof............your exempt.

List of exemptions

1.You’re uninsured for less than 3 months of the year;
2.The lowest-priced coverage available to you would cost more than 8% of your household income;
3.You don’t have to file a tax return because your income is too low;
4.You’re a member of a federally recognized tribe or eligible for services through an Indian Health Services provider;
5.You’re a member of a recognized health care sharing ministry;
6.You’re a member of a recognized religious sect with religious objections to insurance, including Social Security and Medicare;
7.You’re incarcerated, and not awaiting the disposition of charges against you; and
8.You’re not lawfully present in the U.S.



love number 3
Hey heres an idea...stop participating in Social Security all together so you never have to file a tax return.
If your income is to low you are exempt, then reason being if you dont have to file at all you also must be exempt.
Just another reason to stop participating in Social Security people.

[StreetsOfGold]

6.You’re a member of a recognized religious sect with religious objections to insurance, including Social Security and Medicare;


Notice how they lump this obamaINSURANCE (it was NEVER care) in with social security. Social security is something many people have already (past tense) PAID into and so if you do not want FORCED mandatory INSURANCE you can elect an exemption if you ALSO forego what you have already PAID into the SS program.

[Neuro]

8.You’re not lawfully present in the U.S.That sort of defines the US as a legal entity, not a physical one. It at least implies that you could be physically present in an American state, without being lawfully present in the USA, and it may extend beyond illegal aliens...

[Cebu_4_2]

They mention mercury but never the aluminum:

New York City to force all children to be injected with mercury in the form of flu shots
(NaturalNews) Of all the toxic heavy metals, mercury is the most devastating to the brain. No legitimate scientist would ever argue that mercury is safe to inject into a child at any dose, and the CDC has never established any "safe" level of mercury in human blood for the simple reason that there's isn't any safe level.

Yet the New York City Board of Health has now decided (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/12/nyregion/new-york-city-to-require-child-flu-shots.html?_r=0) that all children in New York City need to be injected with a devastating dose of toxic mercury as part of their twisted "public health" measure. Flu shots, of course, still contain the neurotoxin heavy metal known as mercury, yet virtually the entire medical establishment blatantly lies to the public and claims -- with a straight face -- that "all the mercury has been removed from vaccines."

That is an insidious lie. It's still in flu shots.

CDC admits: Nearly all flu shots still contain toxic mercuryThe CDC even reluctantly admits that on its own thimerosal page (http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/thimerosal.htm) where it states that the 2013-2014 flu shot "contains thimerosal to safeguard against possible contamination of the vial once it is opened."

The CDC then goes on to wildly discredit itself by claiming, "There is a large body of scientific evidence on the safety of thimerosal." What the CDC doesn't tell you, of course, is that this "large body of scientific evidence" was conjured up by the vaccine (http://www.naturalnews.com/vaccine.html) industry itself -- the same industry for which the CDC primarily serves as cheerleader, marketing department and pimp. Surely we are more skeptical of industry today than we were in the days when Big Tobacco hired a bunch of doctors and scientists to claim that "cigarettes are good for you" and "nicotine is not addictive" -- all while the pages of the Journal of the American Medical Association touted full-page ads for Camel's Cigarettes which claimed, "More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette!"

Yep, Big Tobacco says cigarettes are safe. (And for a long time so did the AMA.) The fracking industry says fracking is good for the environment. The Corn Refiners Association says high-fructose corn syrup is healthy for children. Casino lobbyists say casinos are good for society. Monsanto says GMOs are perfectly safe to eat. Dentists insists that mercury (http://www.naturalnews.com/mercury.html) fillings are totally safe to chew on. And not surprisingly, vaccine manufacturers swear up and down that mercury is actually GOOD for you because it "makes vaccines work better." (Yes, this is actually one of their ridiculous claims.)

There is no anti-logic too twisted for the vaccine industry, you see. The entire industry is based on a fabrication so sweeping and insidious that it can easily be disproven with the momentary invocation of simple logic. That fabrication is the false assumption that all vaccines are absolutely safe.

Why there is no such thing as a safe vaccineThis is the premise of the entire vaccine industry: no vaccine can ever, under any circumstances, cause harm. All vaccines are beneficial and have no serious side effects. All children (http://www.naturalnews.com/children.html) should be required by the state to take vaccines because all vaccines are absolutely safe, and so on and so forth. Vaccine safety is assumed to be absolute!

The people who make these statements are pathetic excuses for scientists, doctors and public health "officials." They lack intelligence. They are incapable of clear thinking. Their brains are damaged, perhaps from vaccines. Why do I say that? Because the term "safe" is an absolute term. There is no such thing as a "safe" vaccine because there is no such thing as a vaccine without risk. Anyone who claims "vaccines are safe" and actually believes it is either woefully uninformed or deeply mentally impaired.

Certainly, you can talk about certain vaccines being "safer" than other vaccines in terms of relative risk, but there is no such thing as a vaccine that offers absolute safety. Yet this is the way vaccines are routinely described by doctors and public health officials... and anyone who dares to raise the legitimate question of levels of risk or harm that can be reasonably attributed to the injection of mercury into the body of a child (http://www.naturalnews.com/child.html) is instantly labeled a lunatic by the medical mafia (actually a cult of reductionism).

You see, it is an undeniable, scientific fact that every vaccine comes with a risk of serious injury or death, and as tens of thousands of parents are discovering each year in the USA alone, vaccines can also pull the trigger on a cascading collapse of neurological function that we now call "autism spectrum disorder." To describe vaccines as functioning without risk is to label yourself an idiot, a quack, or a shill for the vaccine industry. Perhaps all three.

Vaccines are so dangerous, the entire vaccine industry had to be granted blanket legal immunity just to stay in businessThe desperate attempts of the CDC and vaccine manufacturers to hide this clear link between injected mercury (thimerosal) and autism is one of the saddest and most insidious medical conspiracies in human history. Those who deny that mercury is toxic to children are morally repugnant and scientifically inept. They are the "Flat Earthers" of medicine and they will do almost anything to make sure your child gets injected with a substance so dangerous than the entire industry had to be granted legal immunity by Congress because its products would otherwise result in so much legal liability that the industry would go bankrupt.

If cars were sold in the same way as vaccines, every 1 in 88 families who bought a car would find their child permanently maimed by the child seat sold with the car, to the point where that child could no longer function in society. And then, when they tried to sue the manufacturer for selling them a faulty, dangerous product, they would be told, "Sorry. The car industry has been granted blanket immunity from all lawsuits. You have no due process." That's how the vaccine industry works.

Today, 1 in 88 children now have autism (http://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism/facts-about-autism). Vaccines aren't the only cause of autism, but they seem to be the trigger in many cases. Yet vaccine companies and vaccine-pushing public health officials continue to carry on the big lie, claiming that vaccines have ZERO link to autism -- yet another false piece of medical propaganda designed to keep the medical mafia rolling in cash while your children suffer lifelong brain damage from their faulty products.

Words of wisdom:

Beware of any product so dangerous than the government says "you can't sue the manufacturer even if it kills you" but then that same government turns around and says, "Oh, by the way, you MUST inject your child with this substance, too."

That's New York City (http://www.naturalnews.com/New_York_City.html) in 2014. You must line up your children and inject them with this highly toxic heavy metal. And guess what? If your child suddenly goes autistic, it's YOUR problem, not the state's problem. Don't expect any free medical care for your newly-autistic child.

In this way, the state actually causes serious medical economic damage and then shifts the burden to pay for that damage to the very moms and dads who are also devastated by the harm caused by vaccines.

New York City to become the capitol of autism in AmericaFor the city of New York to now state that all parents much subject their children to these risks of harm and death -- without telling those parents the truth about such risks -- is a wildly dangerous misappropriation of government power. It is, in essence, "gunpoint medicine" where the state criminalizes non-compliance with a twisted quack science public health mandate that will inevitably increase the rate of autism, paralysis, hospitalization and even death of New York City children.

With this vote, the NYC Board of Health has just declared NYC will be the capitol of autism in America.

It is also, not coincidentally, the capitol of mentally-impaired medical experts who have once again demonstrated to the whole world just how incapable they are of intelligent decision-making. It takes no intelligence whatsoever to prostitute yourself out to the vaccine industry and vote for whatever new mandate happens to support their financial interests. What really takes intelligence is being a vaccine skeptic and considering the incredible mountain of evidence that mercury in vaccines causes brain damage (http://www.naturalnews.com/031870_flu_shots_brain_damage.html) or that thimerosal is linked to neurotoxicity (http://www.naturalnews.com/026953_thimerosal_autism_mercury.html).

Because here's the simple moral, ethical and righteous truth of the matter, encompassing the breadth of medical ethics, human rights, parental rights and fundamental human dignity: When there is any risk of harm in a medical decision, parents' rights trump the state. Children do not belong to the state; they belong to their parents. When parents are forced to subject their own children to medical procedures which carry a significant risk of serious harm or even death, it is nothing less than the tyranny of a medical police state to mandate such potentially harmful interventions.

Any city, state or nation which claims this power to force parents to potentially lobotomize their own children with a questionable medical intervention (that's easy to beat with things like zinc and vitamin D, by the way) has forfeit any moral or legal authority it might have once held. It is an open admission that the city, state or nation in question has abandoned fundamental human rights and has transitioned into a medical police state society, where whatever toxic interventions happen to generate profits for the drug companies will be forced onto children at gunpoint.

That is where we have arrived today in New York City. Real science has been abandoned. Medical ethics are thrown out the window. Logic and sanity are nowhere to be found. Parental rights? Trampled into oblivion. Full disclosure? Never gonna happen. PRO-CHOICE? Not with vaccines, you moms! You get no choice. Sure, if you want an abortion, it's your choice because the state says you have that right. But what if you want to SAVE a child that's already been born by not subjecting it to mercury? NYC now says you don't have that right.

Folks, we are well into the age of insanity. Reason has been long abandoned. "Science" has been twisted into whatever warped bastardization the for-profit industry wants it to be. Medical ethics are nowhere to be found. The vaccine mandate push is perhaps the best example yet of how modern medicine -- with all its faulty reductionist paradigms -- is a failure on all levels: biochemically, morally, financially, sociologically, ethically and even culturally.

Forced vaccine mandates are the single most worrisome sign we've seen yet that the state has joined forces with the pharma establishment to push reductionist, interventionist pharmacological medicine at the end of a gun. When medicine is so dangerous, so unwanted and so unpopular that it must be forced upon parents under the threat of criminal penalty, something is very, very wrong with that medical system, and it must be torn down, reformed and rebuilt from the ground up with a restoration of the very first rule of medicine: FIRST, DO NO HARM.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/043210_forced_vaccines_New_York_City_mercury_toxic ity.html#ixzz2nGC3wXCk

[mick silver]

the post we all start here could save someone life are there family life , that one reason i post threads like this . the newbie that come here can see and talk about this with others

[Twisted Titan]

Great website.........

http://thinktwice.com/

[mick silver]

to add to what TT just posted http://thinkchoice.com/allbooks.htm