Real unemployment in USA is 30%

[old steel]

At the 24 minute mark.

Do you agree?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jVbOksvWnY

[midnight rambler]

Actually, if there is truly roughly 101 million unemployed that comes out to be about 47% of the adults. Of the ~320 million people in the states ~2/3 of that 320 million is of voting age (i.e. over 18) which is ~213 million - so that 101 million comes out to 47% of the adult population.

[old steel]

Here are a few ideas to help turn it around.

1. Slash the military budget in half.
2. Offer illegals a lump sum payment of $15k to repratriate themselves to their country of origin. After the offer expires an agressive enforcement happens.
3. Hire Mexicans to build a wall on the US/ Mexico border.
4. End food stamps and create a federal chain of soup kitchens. Keep people fed and reintroduce shame to mooching.
5. Single payer health insurance, enact tort reform and make the system work.
6. End the Cuban embargo and create a visa program for Cuban doctors to work in federal inner city and rural clinics.
7. Eliminate the Department of Education and repeal the "No kids left behind" legislation. Education is a local matter.
8. Create a foreign legion for a path to citizenship. Stop feeding poor white trash and ghetto kids to the shredders. Do what France does successfully.
9. Start selling government assets to pay down our debt.
10. Balanced budget amendment.
11. Provide public funds for campaign funding and eliminate lobbyists.
12. Get rid of corporate tax cheats that use countries like Ireland as a tax haven.
13. Lower corporate tax rates.
14. Increase taxes on personal unearned income.
15. Introduce a flat income tax on top of the progressive system. Everyone pays, even if just a little.
16. End farm subsidies and stop mandates on corn based methanol going into gasoline.
17. Legalize all recreational drugs.
18. Subject religious institutions to taxatioafricanemove the cap on FICA taxation.
20. Repeal NAFTA and reintroduce protectionist policies. Get Americans making stuff again.

[Terry853]

America today is a country of unemployed fat people that expect their grandkids to pay for their fat lifestyle. Can anybody prove that is not true. Having said that..never sell America short..lots of good people up there..most of whom have guns..

[Hitch]

A lot of us are under employed right now. Myself included, and I doubt we are included in the statistics. Maritime industry, a lot of sailors on the beach. Those of us whom are working, sure wish there was more work. I'm getting maybe 60 hours in on my 7 day work week. Don't want to sound like I'm complaining, because I'm grateful, however I've got my cost of living low. A lot of guys I know are hungry.

[Libertytree]

I have to wonder how many people, that aren't counted with their rules, have found ways to survive and still don't collect off the teat?

[PatColo]

I was just looking at shadowstats the other day. Eyeballing their graph it looks to be ~23% currently.

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts

Alternate Unemployment Charts


The seasonally-adjusted SGS Alternate Unemployment Rate reflects current unemployment reporting methodology adjusted for SGS-estimated long-term discouraged workers, who were defined out of official existence in 1994. That estimate is added to the BLS estimate of U-6 unemployment, which includes short-term discouraged workers.


The U-3 unemployment rate is the monthly headline number. The U-6 unemployment rate is the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ (BLS) broadest unemployment measure, including short-term discouraged and other marginally-attached workers as well as those forced to work part-time because they cannot find full-time employment.



http://www.shadowstats.com/imgs/sgs-emp.gif?hl=ad&t=1386344618




Funny how demjooz.gov's fake UE numbers have both been declining since the '08 crash; meanwhile the pre-1994 methodology number has been trending higher since '08... resulting from the latter method's inclusion of long-term discouraged workers, who were defined out of official existence in 1994.


"Figures don't LIE, but LIARS sure do figure!" -- author unknown

[EE_]

A lot of us are under employed right now. Myself included, and I doubt we are included in the statistics. Maritime industry, a lot of sailors on the beach. Those of us whom are working, sure wish there was more work. I'm getting maybe 60 hours in on my 7 day work week. Don't want to sound like I'm complaining, because I'm grateful, however I've got my cost of living low. A lot of guys I know are hungry.

Since the depression hit in 08, a lot of companies found out they can do more with less people. People needing to work are willing to take on bigger workloads.
They're really grinding down employees these days. I doubt things will return to normal anytime soon. It's brutal out there for a lot of people.

[midnight rambler]

I doubt things will return to normal anytime soon.

The party is over, many just haven't come that realization yet. Difficult to have any sort of party when the house where you host your party has been completely ransacked, thoroughly looted and then burned to the ground. It's not coming back. IMO, *the next big thing* is separating those who are able to adapt (aka 'the quick') from those who are unable to cope (aka 'the dead').

Real life zombies, straight ahead.

[Jewboo]

9. Start selling government assets to pay down our debt.

13. Lower corporate tax rates.



9) Confiscate all the jew property in the USA and ship all those parasites to "Israel".

13. International Corporations (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/11/general-electric-taxes_n_2852094.html) actually pay very little, if any, taxes. Confiscate all their foreign "profits" that they never paid taxes on.

[Hitch]

Since the depression hit in 08, a lot of companies found out they can do more with less people. People needing to work are willing to take on bigger workloads.
They're really grinding down employees these days. I doubt things will return to normal anytime soon. It's brutal out there for a lot of people.

EE, my situation is a bit different. There's too many workers and not enough work. They used to give work to the senior members, I've been laid off twice, now I'm a senior guy and they are "spreading the work around". It's a tough one. I don't want to see guys laid off, but starving everyone makes no sense either. I feel like I paid my dues and now that I'm senior, it should mean something. Mixed feelings.

It's bad business added on to a depressed economy. Folks aren't getting work. You can't polish a turd, it's time for folks to realize, we are, in fact, in a depression.

[ImaCannin]

Folks aren't getting work. You can't polish a turd, it's time for folks to realize, we are, in fact, in a depression.

Yes you can!
http://www.dreamyoga.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Polished-Turd.jpg

[EE_]

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[Hitch]

Well boys. A turd is a turd, no matter who you stuff in the white house. It's all the same, a steaming pile of shit. It stinks, big time.

EE, god bless, and you too Ima. Good folks, indeed. Lot's of good folks here on this forum, God bless you all. Cheers my friends.