St. Nicholas , Some Good Reading for Christmas, Teaching and History.

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A personal story that inspired me to start this thread.

Skip it and go to the second post if you don't want to read it.

Been hanging with kids these last few days,
and was able to amaze them with some stories.

One boy was named after St. Nicholas, brought me
a book on St. Nicholas and Santa Clause. So we
are reading it, it's pretty good, from St. Nicholas
to Santa Claus transition.

Some of the highlights of our conversation,
you are named after St Nicholas, a famous
real man, 1700 years old, stories, history,
good teachings, to do good, to help people,
take care of young kids, like your siblings and
friends, " you see the stories told in cartoons,
superman, ironman " , they are not real, but,
St. Nicholas was real, a real life superman,
you have to live up to your namesake or try.
The rest of the kids listening were amazed,
even 2 year old girls were attentive. I got a
5 year old telling me, " you are making this up ".
Ask Papou, he is right there. Some of the adults
listening were speechless as well. Everyone is
so busy, running around, raising kids, my generation
is not telling the stories the previous generation
told, they were commonplace. Just sing about
Santa and Reindeer. Say the Lords Prayer at dinner,
and wish everyone a Merry Christmas, with no
context for the kids, " they too young " , no they
are not. Some of the kids will be giving away
their toys they don't use, because some boys and
girls out there do not have toys.

Some of the parents may even secretly resent me.
They are related to me. I am not known as the poet
or singer or joke teller, I don't start conversations on
any subject either, but I always seem to finish them,
with some points, Christmas dinner I usually keep my
mouth shut completely, that alone stands out, I spend
my time with the kids.

A few more gatherings, we got today, this weekend,
and New Years again, and I already feel fatter.
And guaranteed I will get more feedback, LOL .

I wanted to share this story with everyone.

Kids do understand, St. Nicholas, sharing, helping people, loving and helping your siblings,
helping other kids, giving, being good. Throw in some fantastic points, " he is 1000 years
old " , " he is real " , " it's our history " , " you are making this up " Mr Nicholas, 5 year old, LOL !

Hope everyone has a Merry Christmas.

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Here is some excellent reading on the history of St. Nicholas.

It goes far beyond Christmas and St. Nicholas himself.

These men gave us The West , our beliefs, customs, traditions.

Western Man is unique, no other man teaches Justice, and fights for it.

People really did die and fight and suffer for our freedoms.

Much is related, who build The West ?

On this Christmas day let's remember who St. Nicholas was.

We are soft compared to our forefathers.

St. Nicholas was a leader, resisted unjust authority, persecution and
suffered for his beliefs.

Men like St. Nicholas laid the groundwork for this whole highly documented thread.

Eustace Mullins: NEW HISTORY OF THE JEWS (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?40651-Eustace-Mullins-NEW-HISTORY-OF-THE-JEWS)

See especially post 2 and post 18.

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http://www.santas.net/stnicholas.htm

Despite being quite young Nicholas had earned a reputation for kindliness and wisdom. In the year 303, the Roman emperor Diocletian commanded all the citizens of the Roman Empire, which included Asia Minor, to worship him as a god.

Christians believed in one god and one god alone, so their conscience would not allow them to obey the Emperor's order. Angered by their stubbornness, Diocletian warned the Christians that they would be imprisoned. The Emperor carried out the threat and St Nicholas who resisted too was also imprisoned. For more than five years, St Nicholas was confined to a small cell. He suffered from cold, hunger, and thirst, but he never wavered in his beliefs. In 313, when Diocletian resigned, and Constantine came to power Nicholas was released, and he returned to his post as Bishop of Myra. He continued his good works and became even wiser and more understanding by the time of his death on December 6, 343.

[ think Founding Fathers , your freedom comes from NO MAN , stand up and RESIST ]

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http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/who-is-st-nicholas/

The true story of Santa Claus begins with Nicholas, who was born during the third century in the village of Patara (http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/glossary/#term48). At the time the area was Greek and is now on the southern coast of Turkey. His wealthy parents, who raised him to be a devout Christian, died in an epidemic while Nicholas was still young. Obeying Jesus' words to "sell what you own and give the money to the poor," Nicholas used his whole inheritance to assist the needy, the sick, and the suffering. He dedicated his life to serving God and was made Bishop (http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/glossary/#term9) of Myra (http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/glossary/#term40) while still a young man. Bishop Nicholas became known throughout the land for his generosity to those in need, his love for children, and his concern for sailors and ships.

Under the Roman Emperor Diocletian (http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/glossary/#term24), who ruthlessly persecuted Christians, Bishop Nicholas suffered for his faith, was exiled and imprisoned. The prisons were so full of bishops, priests, and deacons, there was no room for the real criminals—murderers, thieves and robbers. After his release, Nicholas attended the Council of Nicaea (http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/glossary/#term19) in AD 325. He died December 6, AD 343 in Myra and was buried in his cathedral church, where a unique relic (http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/glossary/#term58), called manna (http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/glossary/#term36), formed in his grave. This liquid substance, said to have healing powers, fostered the growth of devotion to Nicholas. The anniversary of his death became a day of celebration, St. Nicholas Day (http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/glossary/#term72), December 6th (December 19 on the Julian Calendar).

[ to this day, Greeks throughout the world celebrate this day as a holiday,
go to Church, offer home baked bread, sends cards or did, and call everyone
in their rolodex named Nicholas to wish them well, like a birthday call ]

Through the centuries many stories and legends have been told of St. Nicholas' life and deeds. These accounts help us understand his extraordinary character and why he is so beloved and revered as protector and helper of those in need.


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I see nothing wrong with this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas

[Hypertiger]

http://hypertiger.blogspot.ca/

[iOWNme]

.Kids do understand, St. Nicholas, sharing, helping people, loving and helping your siblings,
helping other kids, giving, being good. Throw in some fantastic points, " he is 1000 years
old " , " he is real " , " it's our history " , " you are making this up " Mr Nicholas, 5 year old, LOL !

Hope everyone has a Merry Christmas.

Of course kids get it. They havent had their entire brains sucked out of them through the 'Government' propaganda centers known as 'Public School'. It takes 18,000 hours of 'programming' in order to turn little Nicholas from a bright young child full of love and wonderment into an obedient non thinking statist drone, ala 'Pavlov's Dog'.

Good for you to combat the lies with TRUTH. It doesnt matter how old a child is, they are human and they deserve to be told the TRUTH. Which also means.......NO SANTA CLAUSE MYTHS. Its one thing to share the historical facts, but when a child is made to believe a fat man can fly and deliver goodies to the entire planet in 8 hours, and that if he 'obeys' 'Authority' he will get toys, and if he 'disobeys' 'Authority' he will get coal, i see that as a form of mind control. Its all a form of control over the free will and conscience of the child, in order to help turn him into an unthinking immoral ROBOT. Not to mention they figure out that their own parents, the ones who give them food and shelter, have told them a MASSIVE lie that they put their time and emotions into.

What other lies have we all been told that we still believe?

Great story and thanks for sharing.

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The system sustains your existence...

"What other lies have we all been told that we still believe?"

It's all lies you believe are Truth.

because you are ignorant of Truth.

You use lies you believe are Truth to measure lies you believe are Truth to find lies you believe are Truth.

"The essential claim of sophistry is that the actual logical validity of an argument is irrelevant (if not non-existent); it is only the ruling of the audience which ultimately determines whether a conclusion is considered "true" or not. By appealing to the prejudices and emotions of the judges, one can garner favorable treatment for one's side of the argument and cause a factually false position to be ruled true."--Sophistry A.K.A Democracy or Truth by Popular delusion/consensus

"We must win the war of democracy"--Vladimir Lenin

"A lie told often enough becomes the truth."--Vladimir Lenin

“Presidents are selected, not elected.”--Franklin Delano Roosevelt

"It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."--Joseph Stalin

"A lie which is finite and fragile is designed to masquerade as Truth and since Truth is infinite and indestructible and never changes must mimic truth by Not changing."--Hypertiger.

take a byte of the forbidden fruit of logic and gain awareness of 1 and 0

Ignorance is bliss

Negative = positive = false = wrong

0 = 1

1 = 0

Positive = negative = false = wrong

Knowledge is misery.

Knowledge is bliss

Positive = positive = true = right

1 = 1

0 = 0

Negative = negative = true = right

Ignorance is misery

Ignorance rolls the dice attempting to get what ignorance wants....Knowledge supplies the result which is what ignorance needs.

Truth (infinite/indestructible or constant/permanent) only supplies what lies (finite/fragile or temporary/variable) NEED...

Not what lies (finite/fragile or temporary/variable) WANT.

Take a byte of the forbidden fruit of Logic and gain awareness of 1 and 0

Truth and lies

Logic and reason

Work and play

Need and want

Love and hate

Law and rule

Light and dark

Right and wrong

Liberal and conservative

Female and male

Top and bottom

Strong and weak

Birth and death

Righteous and evil

Knowledge and ignorance.

Give and take

Supply and demand

Knowledge and ignorance.

Gradual and violent.

Singularity and duality.

Victory and defeat

GOD and Satan

Angel and Demon.

Obviously the education system is broken...To keep you all ignorant of Truth but Knowledgeable of lies.

Reality and fantasy.

Liberal and conservative

Female/liberal is the positive 1 or white

Male/conservative is the negative 1 or black

https://www.google.ca/search?q=bride+and+groom+wedding+cake&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&rlz=1I7GGNI_enCA533&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=MFq8UuKgFsX2oAS6hICADg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1519&bih=748

From the preamble...

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

A more perfect Union.

Negative 1 or black + Positive 1 or white = 0 grey or as in get married and grow old and grey together...a more perfect Union.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_rule

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_conquer_algorithm

In the USA currently...there is not "domestic Tranquility"

It's domestic disharmony.

And the general welfare...That = joke.

Everyone has been dividend an conquered down into individuals.

The liberal or gradual absolute capitalist rules for revolution...Which of course leads to the conservative or violent absolute capitalist crackdown when the society breaks down.

1. Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial. Destroy their ruggedness.

2. Get control of all means of publicity.

3. Get people's minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and other trivialities.

4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.

5. Destroy the people's faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and obloquy.

6. Always preach true democracy, but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible.

7. By encouraging government extravagance, destroy its credit and produce fear of inflation with rising prices and general discontent.

8. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders, and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.

9. By specious argument cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues, honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.

10. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscating them and leaving the populace helpless. (You do not need firearms but the right to self defence can be taken away once you are reduced mentally and physically into baby seals)

"Do not worry about your beard when you are about to lose you head"-Sun Tzu

4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.

We all are being set up for a slaughter.

The USA is going down...There is no way to vote your way out of what you all have voted yourselves into the past 70 years.

This is going on in all the countries...But it's worst in the USA...

the USA is being set up as the scapegoat to take the fall for it all in the end.

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Remembering and teaching our history with regards to Christmas and St. Nicholas,
is important to counter all the anti-christian anti-western propaganda, for both
the Christians and non-Christians, where some segment of both groups may dislike
some of this history themselves. There is a War on Christmas and a war on our
History, by knowing the history of St. Nicholas you can counter some of this
propaganda. Children enjoyed listening to a very basic overview and it was used
as a teaching tool. They do get that aspect of it.

The fist 2 links to some basic overviews are for the adults.
Basic points to counter some of the propaganda out there.

St. Nicholas is not black, nor is he a penguin, the MSM wants
to rewrite and whitewash history in a very disrespectful manner.

The MSM/TPTB want to erase our past.

We could build a War on Christmas thread, it is far more blatant now than
in the very recent past, it is very easy to find examples, this year the MSM
became more blatant and made it mainstream. Hopefully people wake up.
They need to ask who is behind this. You can destroy their stupidity with
just a few points from the first 2 articles.

Even media people have been attacked for stating the obvious,
they need to read this thread to counter effectively. They did
a half job defending themselves even though they stated the
once obvious that is blatantly denied by the control masters.

You can attack the MSM on this with just historical points, less religious.

" There is a strong undeniable historical and cultural aspect to Christmas and St. Nicholas. " etc

" Who are you to blatantly change real European history ? " etc

" Isn't that dishonest and disrespectful ? " etc

This is one of the main reasons for my thread.

I hope you use this information, it's pretty basic too.

I see a lot of people out there trying to counter some of the MSM propaganda.

One of the best ways to do it is here in this thread with some basic points.

Knowing St. Nicholas, 2 one page printout outs and a few basic points,
you totally destroy the MSM/TPTB propaganda, in media, print, government,
schools. It is also very anti materialism, anti consumerism, anti hedon,
anti nihilist. Pro Family/Freedom as well. All more reasons why MSM lies
blatantly.

Shine the spotlight on these organized efforts, and spread the word.