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Ponce
27th December 2013, 10:49 AM
To tell you the truth, even before we voted against the tax upgrade the only time that I saw a deputy car in this area was at twelve noon when they used to gather at a popular local restaurant.
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After a tax levy was voted down in Josephine County, Oregon last summer, the local sheriff’s department made sharp cuts, including the release of dozens of prisoners, the closure of the major crimes unit, and the reduction of hours that officers were available to 8-5, Monday through Friday.

The Josephine County Sheriff’s dept issued this press release last May:


Patrol services will decrease from 20 hours a day, 7 days a week to 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. The total number of patrol personnel will decrease from 24.5 to 6. Of the remaining six, one is a sergeant and three are contracted by other entities.

Contract deputies’ primary responsibilities are to those entities that pay their salaries – namely, the City of Cave Junction, the Bureau of Land Management and the Oregon State Marine Board. Therefore, their availability to respond to areas outside their contracts will be extremely limited.

Considering the quantity of high priority calls that this office receives, it is clear that patrol will only be able to respond to life threatening incidents.

If you call 911 after hours, and it is a life threatening situation, Oregon State Police will provide a limited response that involves eliminating the current threat.

Sheriff’s patrol deputies will be spread thin, and their response, even in life threatening situations, may be delayed.

As such, the Sheriff’s Office regretfully advises that, if you know you are in a potentially volatile situation (for example, you are a protected person in a restraining order that you believe the respondent may violate), you may want to consider relocating to an area with adequate law enforcement services.

Sheriff’s deputies will respond to life threatening calls only during patrol hours of operation, which are not being publicized for safety reasons. There are no funds available for call outs, so sheriff’s deputies will not be available to respond after hours. (source)

Just days after the cutbacks began, a woman in Josephine County called 911 because her ex-boyfriend (who had previously put her in the hospital) was trying to get into her house. The dispatcher told her it was “unfortunate” that there were no officers available to help her and suggested that the woman ask her ex-boyfriend to go away. Apparently that didn’t work very well, because the woman was then choked and sexually assaulted.

When asked for a comment, Sheriff Gil Gilberson was unsympathetic. “There isn’t a day that goes by that we don’t have another victim. If you don’t pay the bill, you don’t get the service.” This has led many residents to believe that the cuts are being made to be deliberately painful in order to pressure the community into approving the tax hike

The residents of the community understand that criminals don’t generally keep normal business hours, and they’ve had enough of the lackluster sheriff’s department. They have taken matters into their own hands and stepped up to the plate to protect the county themselves. Groups like the North Valley Community Watch are springing up to pick up the slack left behind by the sheriff’s department.


Ken Selig — who was the longest-serving law enforcement officer in all three local agencies when he was forced to retire from the department due to cuts — told FoxNews.com he found the sheriff’s declaration unacceptable. And he felt compelled to guard his community’s vulnerable members.

“Who else is going to protect you when your government can’t?” Selig said.

Selig and his friend Pete Scaglione formed the North Valley Community Watch, a county-wide organization dedicated to helping citizens in non-life-threatening situations, primarily property crimes. It is one of a handful of community groups that have formed since the cuts. Without a robust Sheriff’s Office, their mission is broader than the typical neighborhood watch group.

Selig’s community watch group, looking to fill in the law enforcement cracks, now meets once a month to discuss crime and teach its approximately 100 members about personal safety. The group also has a trained “response team,” which consists of 12 people who will respond to the scene of a reported non-life-threatening situation if called.

Though the “response team” members do carry legal firearms, Selig said the team’s main goal is to provide a deterrent presence, and that none of them have ever fired a shot. He said those involved in his group believe there is no substitute for well-trained law enforcement, but they feel they have no other choice but to protect their community.

“We believe responsible citizens doing responsible things make it hard for criminals to do irresponsible things,” he said. (source)

Josephine County Commissioner Ken Heck denies that the lack of protection offered by the sheriff’s department is a ploy to frighten residents into opening their wallets, and he is concerned about the “aggressive” neighborhood watches that are being established.


Heck said though he supports neighborhood watch groups and citizens being vigilant in their community, the rise of increasingly “aggressive” community watch groups make him worried the situation could escalate to violence. Watch groups have been under increasing scrutiny nationally ever since the George Zimmerman case in Florida.

“These things seem good on the PR side but fail a little in the reality side,” Heck said.

Heck said the only real solution is for the county citizens to approve more funds.

“There is this little shimmer out there of some giant Santa that is going to come and drop all this money on us because we are well-meaning folks,” he said. “The sleigh is broken, the deer are dead, it’s not going to happen. We have to figure out how we are going to solve this problem.” (source)

- See more at: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/armed-community-watch-groups-form-to-protect-residents-when-the-sheriffs-department-will-not_122013#sthash.xRsDWQJz.dpuf

mick silver
27th December 2013, 11:27 AM
it the same here ponce . you may see a cop ride by once a month are once a week take your pick . and i hope it stays the same . no more taxes . no more taxes . no more taxes . we also have volunteer cops they ride in a old cop car , but they dont stop are lock anyone up they just call the state police are the cops here . the car they used has a yellow light on top of it

Ponce
27th December 2013, 02:51 PM
What pisses me off is the fact that they have money for the rest of their toys.......like........ overseas bases (Korea has 88 of them) wars all over the place, 15 trillion? bullets for civilian use, 5 armored vehicle per block, all kind of protective clothing to protect law enforcers and on and on and on........all is to protect them in what is to come and none to serve us.

V

Glass
27th December 2013, 03:54 PM
you see, the people don't need the government. Slowly they are working it out.


What pisses me off is the fact that they have money for the rest of their toys.......like........ overseas bases (Korea has 88 of them) wars all over the place, 15 trillion? bullets for civilian use, 5 armored vehicle per block, all kind of protective clothing to protect law enforcers and on and on and on........all is to protect them in what is to come and none to serve us.

V

What the government does when it needs money is sell the peoples assets, parks, roads, hospitals, schools.

I think those guys need to sell some of that gear to fund their operations. Misallocation of resources is going on here and this is an opportunity to address this problem. Sell the armoured marauder riot truck and the drones. If they are not in operation then they are surplus to requirements.

Ponce. Sounds like you county needs what we call a hatchet man. Cost cutter. Someone needs to rub the Sheriffs nose in it.

milehi
27th December 2013, 06:48 PM
What's up with the State of Jefferson?

Hypertiger
27th December 2013, 07:28 PM
You all tax each other there is no escape from the taxes.

You all take more than you give to sustain existence.

Those who take more than they give greater than they give more than they take become more and more powerful or rich in power and force tax others to give more than they take greater than they take more than they give who become less and less powerful or poor in power...or powerless to resist.

The last 70 years...you blew off enough resources to last 1000 years to power the instant gratification fantasy you all worship.

It is amazing how monumentally ignorant of economics you all are.

You all demand (tax) more and more and more power from the system but supply less and less and less power to it and then look for someone or something else other than the person you see in the mirror to blame.

Dick_Stabber
27th December 2013, 07:59 PM
You all tax each other there is no escape from the taxes.

You all take more than you give to sustain existence.

It is amazing how monumentally ignorant of economics you all are.



Kitty needs to relax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0Y6DZ2E1es

Ponce
27th December 2013, 08:07 PM
For many reasons tax is going to the wrong reasons and unaccountable to the John Does like you and I.........as you know the Pentagon lost billions of dollars that no one knows where it went to, we are giving more and more money to the state of Israel that they don't tell us about........meanwhile our people are loosing their homes and sleeping in their cars, eating from garbage can, washing up at service stations and freezing to death in winter..............and now with 1.3 Americans loosing their extended
unemployment benefits by the end of Dic (I think that it will be tomorrow) the situation will be worse.

After reading a lot of stories I now know where the Zombies will be coming from...beside from those dressed in black.

V

Hatha Sunahara
27th December 2013, 08:25 PM
Why is the media not encouraging people to arm themselves? Why is the only solution to give funds to the government to protect you? The government isn't going to protect anybody but themselves against you. I think the people of Josephine county are a model for the rest of america to dissolve the police state. They are calling the bluff of the fearmongers. Now everybody needs to get well armed if they are not already. The cops who lose their jobs should cash in on the demand for 'personal security training'. I wouldn't mind paying an ex cop to teach me how to protect myself with a firearm. (Probably real easy--just shoot first and ask questions later) I hope this goes viral and we see the same thing everywhere in America.


Hatha

mick silver
28th December 2013, 12:11 PM
my guess would be that the media owned by the ones that have got us all to this point . they could care less about us all , they have there body guards that go with them every were they go