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mamboni
29th December 2013, 03:56 PM
Former BP geologist: peak oil is here and it will 'break economies'

Industry expert warns of grim future of 'recession' driven 'resource wars' at University College London lecture



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A former BP geologist speaks out on the danger of peak oil. Photograph: Ben Stansall/AFP/Getty Images

A former British Petroleum (BP (http://www.theguardian.com/business/bp)) geologist has warned that the age of cheap oil (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/oil) is long gone, bringing with it the danger of "continuous recession" and increased risk of conflict and hunger.

At a lecture on 'Geohazards' earlier this month as part of the postgraduate Natural Hazards for Insurers course (http://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/graduate/degrees/taught/tcpearsnhi01) at University College London (UCL), Dr. Richard G. Miller, who worked for BP from 1985 before retiring in 2008, said that official data from the International Energy (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/energy) Agency (IEA), US Energy Information Administration (EIA), International Monetary Fund (IMF), among other sources, showed that conventional oil had most likely peaked around 2008.

Dr. Miller critiqued the official industry line that global reserves will last 53 years at current rates of consumption, pointing out that "peaking is the result of declining production rates, not declining reserves." Despite new discoveries and increasing reliance on unconventional oil and gas, 37 countries are already post-peak, and global oil production is declining at about 4.1% per year, or 3.5 million barrels a day (b/d) per year:



"We need new production equal to a new Saudi Arabia every 3 to 4 years to maintain and grow supply... New discoveries have not matched consumption since 1986. We are drawing down on our reserves, even though reserves are apparently climbing every year. Reserves are growing due to better technology in old fields, raising the amount we can recover – but production is still falling at 4.1% p.a. [per annum]."



Dr. Miller, who prepared annual in-house projections of future oil supply for BP from 2000 to 2007, refers to this as the "ATM problem" – "more money, but still limited daily withdrawals." As a consequence: "Production of conventional liquid oil has been flat since 2008. Growth in liquid supply since then has been largely of natural gas liquids [NGL]- ethane, propane, butane, pentane - and oil-sand bitumen."

Dr. Miller is co-editor of a special edition (http://www.ukerc.ac.uk/support/article3539-Special-Edition-of-Royal-Society-Journal-on-the-Future-of-Oil) of the prestigious journal, Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society A (http://rsta.royalsocietypublishing.org/site/2014/2006.xhtml), published this month on the future of oil supply. In an introductory paper (http://rsta.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/372/2006/20130179.full) co-authored with Dr. Steve R. Sorrel, co-director of the Sussex Energy Group (http://www.sussex.ac.uk/sussexenergygroup/) at the University of Sussex in Brighton, they argue that among oil industry experts "there is a growing consensus that the era of cheap oil has passed and that we are entering a new and very different phase." They endorse the conservative conclusions of an extensive earlier study by the government-funded UK Energy Research (http://www.theguardian.com/science/energy) Centre (UKERC):



"... a sustained decline in global conventional production appears probable before 2030 and there is significant risk of this beginning before 2020... on current evidence the inclusion of tight oil [shale oil (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/shale-oil)] resources appears unlikely to significantly affect this conclusion, partly because the resource base appears relatively modest."




In fact, increasing dependence on shale could worsen decline rates in the long run:



"Greater reliance upon tight oil resources produced using hydraulic fracturing will exacerbate any rising trend in global average decline rates, since these wells have no plateau and decline extremely fast - for example, by 90% or more in the first 5 years."



Tar sands will fare similarly, they conclude, noting that "the Canadian oil sands (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/oil-sands) will deliver only 5 mb per day by 2030, which represents less than 6% of the IEA projection of all-liquids production by that date."
Despite the cautious projection of global peak oil (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/peak-oil) "before 2020", they also point out that:



"Crude oil production grew at approximately 1.5% per year between 1995 and 2005, but then plateaued with more recent increases in liquids supply largely deriving from NGLs, oil sands and tight oil. These trends are expected to continue... Crude oil production is heavily concentrated in a small number of countries and a small number of giant fields, with approximately 100 fields producing one half of global supply, 25 producing one quarter and a single field (Ghawar in Saudi Arabia) producing approximately 7%. Most of these giant fields are relatively old, many are well past their peak of production, most of the rest seem likely to enter decline within the next decade or so and few new giant fields are expected to be found."



"The final peak is going to be decided by the price - how much can we afford to pay?", Dr. Miller told me in an interview about his work. "If we can afford to pay $150 per barrel, we could certainly produce more given a few years of lead time for new developments, but it would break economies again."
Miller argues that for all intents and purposes, peak oil has arrived as conditions are such that despite volatility, prices can never return to pre-2004 levels:




"The oil price has risen almost continuously since 2004 to date, starting at $30. There was a great spike to $150 and then a collapse in 2008/2009, but it has since climbed to $110 and held there. The price rise brought a lot of new exploration and development, but these new fields have not actually increased production by very much, due to the decline of older fields. This is compatible with the idea that we are pretty much at peak today. This recession is what peak feels like."



Although he is dismissive of shale oil and gas' capacity to prevent a peak and subsequent long decline in global oil production, Miller recognises that there is still some leeway that could bring significant, if temporary dividends for US economic growth - though only as "a relatively short-lived phenomenon":



"We're like a cage of lab rats that have eaten all the cornflakes and discovered that you can eat the cardboard packets too. Yes, we can, but... Tight oil may reach 5 or even 6 million b/d in the US, which will hugely help the US economy, along with shale gas. Shale resources, though, are inappropriate for more densely populated countries like the UK, because the industrialisation of the countryside affects far more people (with far less access to alternative natural space), and the economic benefits are spread more thinly across more people. Tight oil production in the US is likely to peak before 2020. There absolutely will not be enough tight oil production to replace the US' current 9 million b/d of imports."



In turn, by prolonging global economic recession, high oil prices may reduce demand. Peak demand in turn may maintain a longer undulating oil production plateau:




"We are probably in peak oil today, or at least in the foot-hills. Production could rise a little for a few years yet, but not sufficiently to bring the price down; alternatively, continuous recession in much of the world may keep demand essentially flat for years at the $110/bbl price we have today. But we can't grow the supply at average past rates of about 1.5% per year at today's prices."



The fundamental dependence of global economic growth on cheap oil supplies suggests that as we continue into the age of expensive oil and gas, without appropriate efforts to mitigate the impacts and transition to a new energy system, the world faces a future of economic and geopolitical turbulence:





"In the US, high oil prices correlate with recessions, although not all recessions correlate with high oil prices. It does not prove causation, but it is highly likely that when the US pays more than 4% of its GDP for oil, or more than 10% of GDP for primary energy, the economy declines as money is sucked into buying fuel instead of other goods and services... A shortage of oil will affect everything in the economy. I expect more famine, more drought, more resource wars and a steady inflation in the energy cost of all commodities."



According to another study (http://rsta.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/372/2006/20130126) in the Royal Society (http://www.theguardian.com/science/royal-society) journal special edition by professor David J. Murphy of Northern Illinois University, an expert in the role of energy in economic growth, the energy return on investment (EROI) for global oil and gas production - the amount of energy produced compared to the amount of energy invested to get, deliver and use that energy - is roughly 15 and declining. For the US, EROI of oil and gas production is 11 and declining; and for unconventional oil and biofuels is largely less than 10. The problem is that as EROI decreases, energy prices increase. Thus, Murphy concludes:



"... the minimum oil price needed to increase the oil supply in the near term is at levels consistent with levels that have induced past economic recessions. From these points, I conclude that, as the EROI of the average barrel of oil declines, long-term economic growth will become harder to achieve and come at an increasingly higher financial, energetic and environmental cost."



Current EROI in the US, Miller said, is simply "not enough to support the US infrastructure, even if America was self-sufficient, without raising production even further than current consumption."

In their introduction to their collection of papers in the Royal Society journal, Miller and Sorrell point out that "most authors" in the special edition "accept that conventional oil resources are at an advanced stage of depletion and that liquid fuels will become more expensive and increasingly scarce." The shale revolution can provide only "short-term relief", but is otherwise "unlikely to make a significant difference in the longer term."

They call for a "coordinated response" to this challenge to mitigate the impact, including "far-reaching changes in global transport systems." While "climate-friendly solutions to 'peak oil' are available" they caution, these will be neither "easy" nor "quick", and imply a model of economic development that accepts lower levels of consumption and mobility.

In his interview with me, Richard Miller was particularly critical of the UK government's policies, including abandoning large-scale wind farm projects, the reduction of feed-in tariffs for renewable energy, and support for shale gas. "The government will do anything for the short-term economic bounce," he said, "but the consequence will be that the UK is tied more tightly to an oil-based future, and we will pay dearly for it."

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/dec/23/british-petroleum-geologist-peak-oil-break-economy-recession?CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2

Ponce
29th December 2013, 04:27 PM
As long as they keep on thinking "oil" they will live in the era of oil.......to me all this is nothing more than propaganda in order to train the sheep that prices will be going up.......but.........not to much about water.

V

midnight rambler
29th December 2013, 04:52 PM
This is all a perfect example of how the Death Cult directs everything to benefit the Death Cult, 'cause had Tesla's free energy been developed we wouldn't be in this predicament.

Cebu_4_2
29th December 2013, 04:55 PM
'cause had Tesla's free energy been developed we wouldn't be in this predicament.

They would have figured out how to control that too.

midnight rambler
29th December 2013, 05:08 PM
They would have figured out how to control that too.

No, you're mistaken - that's precisely why it was intentionally blocked from development - J.P. Morgan cut of his funding of Tesla when he realized that there was no continuous uninterrupted revenue stream from selling antennas to pick up on the free energy (once someone buys an antenna [one time cost] they won't have to spend any more money on energy - "No one is going to milk that cow for free!").


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIc_A_fbppQ

Spectrism
30th December 2013, 06:09 AM
Whenever they say "peak oil", try substituting "peak sustainable population" and you will get an idea for waht they really want.

Ponce
30th December 2013, 10:35 AM
Whenever they say "peak oil", try substituting "peak sustainable population" and you will get an idea for waht they really want.

LOL........like someone told me "Ponce? is not that you don't have enough storage space, is that you have to much stuff".

V

madfranks
30th December 2013, 01:10 PM
There's no doubt that if the governments of the world and their banker patrons backed off and let private enterprise work, there would be no energy shortage at all.

mamboni
30th December 2013, 01:19 PM
There's no doubt that if the governments of the world and their banker patrons backed off and let private enterprise work, there would be no energy shortage at all.

Oh no! Perish the thought. Reward someone for creating and producing and let the free market operate? No no no! Better we are all equal, living in the dark in rags, sharing squirrel-on-a-spit and rat stew than have someone have more than anyone else!

/sarc

chad
30th December 2013, 01:51 PM
my uncle was an engineer for unocal for most of his life. he's told me that there's enough capped wells in n/s dakota and alaska to fuel the world for 300+ years, easily.

skid
30th December 2013, 01:53 PM
my uncle was an engineer for unocal for most of his life. he's told me that there's enough capped wells in n/s dakota and alaska to fuel the world for 300+ years, easily.

Your uncle is beyond wrong.

chad
30th December 2013, 01:56 PM
yeah, he's probably a big dumbass. designed platforms all over the world and helped locate oil fields for 40+ years.

ximmy
30th December 2013, 02:02 PM
Whenever they say "peak oil", try substituting "peak sustainable population" and you will get an idea for waht they really want.

"peak" means we must raise prices....

Oil is abiotic, not from dinosaur bones...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives/peak_oil/index.htm

mamboni
30th December 2013, 02:02 PM
yeah, he's probably a big dumbass. designed platforms all over the world and helped locate oil fields for 40+ years.

Yeap, a neophyte to boot!

midnight rambler
30th December 2013, 02:05 PM
Why would a group of parasites who've been exploiting a petroleum-centric world (which THEY created) for the past ~150 years tell the people the truth about ANYTHING they are doing?? Doing such a thing is just not in their best interests.

Large Sarge
30th December 2013, 02:08 PM
my uncle was an engineer for unocal for most of his life. he's told me that there's enough capped wells in n/s dakota and alaska to fuel the world for 300+ years, easily.

I agree with Chad...


part of this has to do with the petrodollar (artificial scarcity, to create demand/price)

there is more oil than you can imagine

Hypertiger
30th December 2013, 02:34 PM
Deflation implodes the system and kills you all...Learn economics.

You all demand to be supplied from the system and you all are the supply of demand from the system.

Yield rates have been dropping for 32 years...To sustain the inflation of the system.

in order for the system to inflate by not too much and not too little but always greater than previously...To keep you all from flipping out and losing your minds and running around like ants on a kicked ant hill...the supply in relation to the demand has to be managed.

You all are the supply of power or slaves to the master system and the power is used to create the servant all slave for.

Money...or in the case of an exponentially growing commercial banking credit system...credit...which is debt owed to someone else and ultimately to the banks that created it.

You live in a fantasy world that has a constantly growing demand for input of power to power the lie you all worship as Truth.

They is all of you...and when the demand by all of you for yield become greater than the supply of yield from all of you...the master system becomes yield starved and basically whips/taxes you all to death to supply the demand of your hunger for yield...That of course can never be supplied.

Peak oil is here...It why the price of oil has risen and they are fracking like mad.

I'm a real worker and there is no amount of whipping you can land on my back to get me to supply any more power than my maximum potential.

There is the real yield rate...and the fantasy one you all think the FED sets...The FED has been following a trend the past 32 years...The implosion of rates is due to all of you investing into not working for a living.

The lower rates go...The more credit that is produced to invest back into the production of more credit.

Until you reach the point where you run out of resources...like people willing and able to sign on the dotted line for new home construction...this happened in 2005 and signaled the end of the 1991 to 2005 new home construction real estate boom...the engine of the multiplier effect or the magic printing press.

The reason there is QE is because the yield from all of you went negative in 2008...and in order to keep the credit system from imploding and killing you all...They have been inputting a fake 1 where a real 0 has been appearing for the past 5 years.

The difference is being made up in the prices of food and fuel...

The boom of the last 70 years is ending and collapsing from maximum potential fantasy into and down to maximum potential reality or bust.

Hypertiger
30th December 2013, 04:15 PM
All the trade in the global trade system is based on the Bretton woods global trade system agreed to in 1944...It created the IMF the World bank and it made the US Dollar the global trade medium of exchange...to this day...

The plan was devised in London...It made the US consumer the supply of US Dollars and the demand from the world for a supply of resources...raw materials, finished goods and services...Oil is just one component of the trade system equation.

The US military as part of NATO/UN was made the enforcer of global "free trade" policy which is "gimmie or else"...As the British and French empires collapsed back to England and France the USA took over...

The USA reached maximum potential in 2008 and began to collapse and since then to now the USA along with the world has been visibly collapsing...Bretton woods has inflated the world the past 7 decades and is now ending.

Of course all the text books say Bretton woods collapsed in 1971...There is no evidence that it collapsed...there is evidence that the previous global trade system prior to 1929 collapsed that was based on the British pound as the global trade medium of exchange...the 1929-1933 collapse into the great depression followed by the 1933-1945 bankruptcy reorganization of the global trade system with 1939 to 1945 being the liquidation climax...

But no evidence of the collapse of Bretton woods...it's still intact but crumbling.

skid
30th December 2013, 06:44 PM
yeah, he's probably a big dumbass. designed platforms all over the world and helped locate oil fields for 40+ years.

If he thinks north dakota and alaska can supply 85 million barrels per day for 300 years that is some mighty fine drugs he is taking. Why design platforms and locate oil fields all over the world if there is enough in ND and AK LOL?

I worked in the oil field for over 25 years and I can tell you decline rates happen and it happen the same all over the world. My experience is in the western canadian sedimentary basin, and it is running out of oil. Only the tar sands are keeping oil output steady in Alberta. All the big conventional fields are experiencing decline and there is nothing to replace them.

The article is dead on...

Large Sarge
31st December 2013, 07:49 AM
If he thinks north dakota and alaska can supply 85 million barrels per day for 300 years that is some mighty fine drugs he is taking. Why design platforms and locate oil fields all over the world if there is enough in ND and AK LOL?

I worked in the oil field for over 25 years and I can tell you decline rates happen and it happen the same all over the world. My experience is in the western canadian sedimentary basin, and it is running out of oil. Only the tar sands are keeping oil output steady in Alberta. All the big conventional fields are experiencing decline and there is nothing to replace them.

The article is dead on...

there are less taxes/regulations on offshore drilling, the whole not in my backyard" with that pipeline/rig, etc never comes into play...

the one item I remember reading, the oil from libya (high grade), they were pumping for a $1 a barrel... selling for a $100 (that is not a typo)

a prescription of Prozac, costs about $1 (for the whole bottle), it sells for $200.....

same folks....
there is scads of oil.....

all over.....

Hatha Sunahara
31st December 2013, 10:59 AM
There is an astronomer named Thomas Gold who wrote a book called The Deep Hot Biosphere. In that book he described how the earth itself produces oil and gas and how it is a dynamic--not a static process. Depleted oil reservoirs refill themselves with oil and gass seeping upward from deepre parts of the crust and mantle of the earth. All it takes is limestone, water and high pressure and temperature.

The people who want you to believe that oil is running out want nothing more than to enslave you to their monopoly on its supply. Tesla's energy technology would have freed mankind from this monopoly--and as Midnight Rambler says, that's why they deep sixed Tesla's radiant energy technology.


Hatha

skid
31st December 2013, 01:40 PM
There is an astronomer named Thomas Gold who wrote a book called The Deep Hot Biosphere. In that book he described how the earth itself produces oil and gas and how it is a dynamic--not a static process. Depleted oil reservoirs refill themselves with oil and gass seeping upward from deepre parts of the crust and mantle of the earth. All it takes is limestone, water and high pressure and temperature.

The people who want you to believe that oil is running out want nothing more than to enslave you to their monopoly on its supply. Tesla's energy technology would have freed mankind from this monopoly--and as Midnight Rambler says, that's why they deep sixed Tesla's radiant energy technology.

Hatha

Even if there is abiotic oil, the replenish rate is far lower than the extraction rate. I've sat in management meetings looking at existing decline rates and expected future production when I worked for Transcanada Pipelines (who transport/export Canadian oil and gas on their many pipelines including the proposed keystone pipeline) where upper management was worried about the long term survival of the company due to declining production. Part of their long term strategy was to diversify into electrical power production and oil sands syncrude because they knew long term production was declining in both conventional oil and natural gas.

All the old fields are declining and the only replacements are in the artic, in the ocean, and other difficult/expensive locales with low rates of return on dollars invested (shale oil, tarsands, etc.).