View Full Version : Interesting way to get rid of Pamtry Moths.
Libertytree
1st January 2014, 03:47 PM
There was a moth infestation when I moved here but it reached its limit, so I've been on a mission to nip it in the bud. Doing all the usual cleaning, freezing, tossing things out etc.. But I just read this and I'm thinking it's is pretty cool. I thought I'd either share it or someone who knows about it might chime it.
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I've found an easy and reasonably cheap solution to pantry moths, and it works amazingly quickly with no effort at all (seriously, I know this sounds too good to be true, but nature already has a solution for whatever problems we might have.)
You will still need to throw out any food that becomes infested, but you don't need to throw out everything, just in case.
I did a lot of research on how to get rid of these suckers, and I eventually came across trichogramma wasps. Before you freak, these are barely wasps, and so tiny you can barely see them when you are looking right at them, they are about the size of a grain of sand, and they cannot harm you in sany way. You won't even know they are there. What they do is inject their own larva into the eggs of the moths (and about a thousand other pest insect eggs, so they are great to release outdoors, too) and feed on the moth egg while they develop. How they are released is every 2 weeks for 3 months, and then if you ever see another moth (just one) release them twice, two weeks apart, just to catch any eggs that might have been laid in that time. (control doses - these may not be necessary, but as anyone who has dealt with them knows, you can't be too careful.)
I bought 3 squares of eggs for $12 every 2 weeks, which contained 5 thousand wasp larve (again, super tiny things, in the container, they look like moving dots) which was enough for my kitchen, living room (birds) and the space between, but the wasps get around, and will find any eggs you might have around. I would have bought fewer, as indoors they are super-concentrated (outdoors, they kill off up to 98% of whatever species they are brought in to clean out) but as of yet, I have not found any suppliers that sell fewer.
You have fewer (almost none) moths in 2 weeks, within a month, you'll be lucky to see one, the next two months are to make sure you didn't miss any.
Seriously, give them a try, you will NOT be dissapointed
Hypertiger
1st January 2014, 04:04 PM
I save spiders as best I can since they deal with things that refuse to leave me alone and do not want to be saved an are begging for death...Like flies and mosquitos and such.
Dogman
1st January 2014, 04:09 PM
Good thoughts, let nature do its thing. Spiders that are harmless to me are permitted to work in the background as long as they are not bold in their activity. (below my radar as in they do not invade my space that I am in) Tho one can learn at a basic level watching them do their life's work, building webs for those that are patient and watch is a sight to see.
Do the same with snakes, if it can not do real harm to me, I will not do harm to it!
Edit: Lt good thinking, using nature to take care of your problem!
Doing battle with nats that somehow got in, it is amazing that somethings so small can move so quick. And it you look at them closely one wonders how can they fly so well. I am trying not to use any chemicals at all, they do like the drains in my sinks.
Libertytree
1st January 2014, 04:25 PM
Good thoughts, let nature do its thing. Spiders that are harmless to me are permitted to work in the background as long as they are not bold in their activity. (below my radar as in they do not invade my space that I am in) Tho one can learn at a basic level watching them do their life's work, building webs for those that are patient and watch is a sight to see.
Do the same with snakes, if it can not do real harm to me, I will not do harm to it!
Edit: Lt good thinking, using nature to take care of your problem!
Doing battle with nats that somehow got in, it is amazing that somethings so small can move so quick. And it you look at them closely one wonders how can they fly so well. I am trying not to use any chemicals at all, they do like the drains in my sinks.
Vinegar will fix that, pour at night and don't rinse till the next day.
Dogman
1st January 2014, 04:30 PM
Vinegar will fix that, pour at night and don't rinse till the next day. Have tried vinegar traps and such, seems vinegar does not attract them, but it was also done halfhearted in execution. At the time I only get a gimps now and then of the critters, tho when it warms up I will go into outright war mode. Then katty bar the door I will get a couple of gallons of vinegar!
Libertytree
1st January 2014, 04:35 PM
Are the gnats everywhere or are they centralized at the drains?
Dogman
1st January 2014, 04:43 PM
Are the gnats everywhere or are they centralized at the drains? Hell bro! I see them at the drains, but wherever I am at they buzz me and I make a game of swatting them... I do not leave any trash with organics out for them to feed and breed.
I think there is something in my area that is a major breeding location for them, and I get the ones that make it in through the cracks!
? Not solved!
Libertytree
1st January 2014, 05:07 PM
Hmmmmmm......maybe they're just stalking you? Question is...why?
Dogman
1st January 2014, 05:12 PM
Hmmmmmm......maybe they're just stalking you? Question is...why? Sweet personality?
Naw!
I see them at the window and door screens during the summer and suspect they get in when I open the doors and use the sinks as maybe breeding areas and I just have not followed through with keeping them clean.
Minor problem, that is sometimes irritating but does give me something to do, for my basic nature of wanting to plan and plot mass destruction.
EE_
1st January 2014, 05:16 PM
Good thoughts, let nature do its thing. Spiders that are harmless to me are permitted to work in the background as long as they are not bold in their activity. (below my radar as in they do not invade my space that I am in) Tho one can learn at a basic level watching them do their life's work, building webs for those that are patient and watch is a sight to see.
Do the same with snakes, if it can not do real harm to me, I will not do harm to it!
Edit: Lt good thinking, using nature to take care of your problem!
Doing battle with nats that somehow got in, it is amazing that somethings so small can move so quick. And it you look at them closely one wonders how can they fly so well. I am trying not to use any chemicals at all, they do like the drains in my sinks.
Try not to eat too many of those spiders. It is said, people eat 4 to 8 spiders a year.
I guess they crawl into your mouth while you're sleeping. I like to keep people informed...sleep well!
http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/spider-in-mouth-myth.jpg
Ares
1st January 2014, 05:23 PM
Good thoughts, let nature do its thing. Spiders that are harmless to me are permitted to work in the background as long as they are not bold in their activity. (below my radar as in they do not invade my space that I am in) Tho one can learn at a basic level watching them do their life's work, building webs for those that are patient and watch is a sight to see.
Do the same with snakes, if it can not do real harm to me, I will not do harm to it!
Edit: Lt good thinking, using nature to take care of your problem!
Doing battle with nats that somehow got in, it is amazing that somethings so small can move so quick. And it you look at them closely one wonders how can they fly so well. I am trying not to use any chemicals at all, they do like the drains in my sinks.
Apple Cider Vinegar with a little bit of dish soap. 1/4 cup of apple cider vinegar with a squirt of dish soap, and in a few hours you'll see dozens of those lil bastards dead at the bottom.
My wife makes that solution every fall, and it works every time. Apple cider vinegar attracts them, dish soap kills them.
Dogman
1st January 2014, 05:23 PM
Try not to eat too many of those spiders. It is said, people eat 4 to 8 spiders a year.
I guess they crawl into your mouth while you're sleeping. I like to keep people informed...sleep well!
http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/spider-in-mouth-myth.jpg Hell dude, I like taranchula spiders and used to keep as pets, had a blond female (huge) that lived with me for nearly 7 years! Let her roam free most of the time. She would come to me when she wanted to be fed.
On a side note,
If you look at the insect parts the FDA allows to pass in our foods to us, a few spiders are punk!
Its all protein anyway! ;)
Dogman
1st January 2014, 05:25 PM
Apple Cider Vinegar with a little bit of dish soap. 1/4 cup of apple cider vinegar with a squirt of dish soap, and in a few hours you'll see dozens of those lil bastards dead at the bottom.
My wife makes that solution every fall, and it works every time. Apple cider vinegar attracts them, dish soap kills them. Kool!
Will try that next season the tiny bastards show up!
Ares
1st January 2014, 05:29 PM
Kool!
Will try that next season the tiny bastards show up!
Put the solution in a shallow glass or plastic bowl, that seems to work the best.
Cebu_4_2
1st January 2014, 05:38 PM
Put the solution in a shallow glass or plastic bowl, that seems to work the best.
I did this last year when you? made that suggestion. I tried different amounts of the ingredients and I only got one. I even changed brands and all LOL. They just didn't like the idea or something. I hate them things, we call them tsetse flies. I don't remember what I did to get rid of them because I tried too many things in a short while but they are gone.
Hypertiger
1st January 2014, 06:14 PM
I remember surviving a massive earwig (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earwig) attack...They made it into the house...In the morning I saw how they did...There was a line of poison poured around the doorway...and it was heaped over with piles of dead earwigs and the live ones crawled over the dead to get into the house.
Think Starship troopers but with way smaller bugs...It all it all ended in the house with the women screaming and flipping out while the men were beating all the bugs with shoes.
They were trying to get into the house real bad...most likely to escape the cold...As to how so many decided to try to get into the house all a once...I do not know.
Dogman
1st January 2014, 06:22 PM
I remember surviving a massive earwig (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earwig) attack...They made it into the house...In the morning I saw how they did...There was a line of poison poured around the doorway...and it was heaped over with piles of dead earwigs and the live ones crawled over the dead to get into the house.
Think Starship troopers but with way smaller bugs...It all it all ended in the house with the women screaming and flipping out while the men were beating all the bugs with shoes.
They were trying to get into the house real bad...most likely to escape the cold...As to how so many decided to try to get into the house all a once...I do not know. Kool, there is a real person there! Great! Yes , here we have huge cockroaches called wood roaches that will do their damnedest to get where it is warm in the cold months. My grandmother would refuse to call them "roaches" she called them water bugs..
Be well!
Libertytree
1st January 2014, 06:26 PM
I remember surviving a massive earwig (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earwig) attack...They made it into the house...In the morning I saw how they did...There was a line of poison poured around the doorway...and it was heaped over with piles of dead earwigs and the live ones crawled over the dead to get into the house.
Think Starship troopers but with way smaller bugs...It all it all ended in the house with the women screaming and flipping out while the men were beating all the bugs with shoes.
They were trying to get into the house real bad...most likely to escape the cold...As to how so many decided to try to get into the house all a once...I do not know.
It's so nice to see you post things as a regular person, thank you.
Dogman
1st January 2014, 06:30 PM
It's so nice to see you post things as a regular person, thank you.Ditto!
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Ares
1st January 2014, 06:34 PM
I did this last year when you? made that suggestion. I tried different amounts of the ingredients and I only got one. I even changed brands and all LOL. They just didn't like the idea or something. I hate them things, we call them tsetse flies. I don't remember what I did to get rid of them because I tried too many things in a short while but they are gone.
weird, we've had it work with gnats back in Indiana, and North Carolina. It worked well. Just a store brand Apple Cider Vinegar is what we used. Nothing fancy.
Dogman
1st January 2014, 06:36 PM
weird, we've had it work with gnats back in Indiana, and North Carolina. It worked well. Just a store brand Apple Cider Vinegar is what we used. Nothing fancy. Here those types of traps have not worked for me, but maybe I did not use the right kind of bait.
Ares
1st January 2014, 06:42 PM
Here those types of traps have not worked for me, but maybe I did not use the right kind of bait.
Something about Apple Cider Vinegar, they love the stuff.
Dogman
1st January 2014, 07:09 PM
Something about Apple Cider Vinegar, they love the stuff. Thought I have tried it before, but?? Will try again in the spring.
Ares
1st January 2014, 07:15 PM
Thought I have tried it before, but?? Will try again in the spring.
Definitely keep me posted. Hoping it works out well for ya. Hate gnats.
Dogman
1st January 2014, 07:37 PM
Definitely keep me posted. Hoping it works out well for ya. Hate gnats. Dam near no see ums, but at least they do not bite.
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