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Cebu_4_2
8th January 2014, 04:32 PM
In San Francisco, It’s Illegal to Store Your Own Stuff in Your Own Garage




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San Francisco is plagued with thousands of scofflaws. Their crime? Storing anything that isn’t a car in their garage.
According to Chapter 6 of the San Francisco Housing Code, “Private and public storage garages in apartment houses and hotels shall be used only for storage of automobiles (http://housing.sanfranciscocode.org/6_603/).” Failing to comply with the law can lead to fines of up to $500 (http://housing.sanfranciscocode.org/2_204/).
The law is particularly silly since many San Franciscans are proud cyclists. Take Kimberly Conley. She has a home in the Mission District with her husband, but no car. Because of the city’s code, she’s technically breaking the law (http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/A-push-to-abolish-ridiculous-S-F-laws-5119134.php#photo-5689663) every time she stores her bike in her garage:


It’s absolutely ridiculous, especially in San Francisco, where storage space is at a premium—you expect to be able to do with your garage whatever you need to do with it. If you’re not going to use your garage for a car, it should be your space to do as you please.



Fortunately, Supervisor Mark Farrell (http://www.sfbos.org/index.aspx?page=11323) will soon introduce legislation to repeal the garage storage ban. As the San Francisco Chronicle reports, this supervisor will be on a mission “to clear any unnecessary laws from San Francisco's books and to tweak laws that need updating (http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/A-push-to-abolish-ridiculous-S-F-laws-5119134.php#photo-5689663).” Farrell is also calling upon citizens to suggest reforms and to scour the city’s code, looking for outdated and harmful laws to scrap.

They’ll have their work cut out for them. San Francisco isn’t exactly a city known for protecting property rights and economic liberty. To name just a few examples:

• Back in June, the Board of Supervisors unanimously voted to make doing business much more difficult for food trucks (https://sfgov.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=1078431&GUID=F5CBE31B-5944-4832-8B4B-AA83C9F98915&Options=ID%7CText%7C&Search=mobile+food), even though they’ve been creating new jobs (http://ij.org/want-to-create-more-jobs-free-the-food-trucks). Food trucks can now face fines of up to $5,000 per day for a violation, like vending for four days at one spot or being too close to a restaurant—say, 74 feet instead of 75.

• The city’s rent control policies have weakened the incentive to build more housing units in San Francisco, which has a median rent of over $3,400 a month. Last year, only 126 housing units (http://reason.com/archives/2013/11/29/san-francisco-values-pricing-poor-out-of) were added.

• San Francisco has been fighting to widen and enforce a 15 percent “transient occupancy” tax (http://business.time.com/2013/10/07/airbnbs-woes-show-how-far-the-sharing-economy-has-come/) on house and apartment rentals arranged through Airbnb, the innovative company that allows homeowners to rent their space to travelers when they’re not using it. That tax has traditionally been levied on hotels. But short-term rentals are quite different from staying at a hotel. Not to mention higher taxes could weaken tourist demand. An economic impact survey found that Airbnb contributed $56 million in taxes to San Francisco (http://ij.org/new-york-city-reverses-fines-for-man-who-used-airbnb-illegally).

If you or anyone you know wants San Francisco to reform its laws, you can leave a (polite) comment on the relevant section of the San Francisco Code (http://www.sanfranciscocode.org/).
-- Nick Sibilla

Twisted Titan
8th January 2014, 04:57 PM
if you live in that hell hole City you deserve exactly what you get.

Cebu_4_2
8th January 2014, 05:12 PM
if you live in that hell hole City you deserve exactly what you get.

Cost of living in that radiated hell hole there is nothing left to move with let alone find and buy. I admit having to pack shop and relocate sucks.

Ponce
8th January 2014, 05:19 PM
I feel very lucky to have planned my retirement just right...... like I said before, not counting food and gas my yearly expensed is of around $4,300 that I can cut down to $3,600...........why hell, I can beg on the streets and make that much in three months.

V

Glass
8th January 2014, 05:31 PM
I feel very lucky to have planned my retirement just right...... like I said before, not counting food and gas my yearly expensed is of around $4,300 that I can cut down to $3,600...........why hell, I can beg on the streets and make that much in three months.

V

Go gigolo and make that much in a weekend. I recall something about a hot tub maybe in one your posts

Ponce
8th January 2014, 10:17 PM
Yes I do have a hot tub that I use every two days in winter to take a bath.....in summer I use my 550 gallon black water tank where the top water in the tank is always hot......nothing like a naked Cuban taken a bath in his backyard ahahahhaahah.

V

Serpo
25th August 2014, 01:49 PM
Yes I do have a hot tub that I use every two days in winter to take a bath.....in summer I use my 550 gallon black water tank where the top water in the tank is always hot......nothing like a naked Cuban taken a bath in his backyard ahahahhaahah.

V

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Dogman
25th August 2014, 02:04 PM
Yes I do have a hot tub that I use every two days in winter to take a bath.....in summer I use my 550 gallon black water tank where the top water in the tank is always hot......nothing like a naked Cuban taken a bath in his backyard ahahahhaahah.

V


Ahahahah

Hope you meant "gray water". My friend!

Black water tanks are where the piss and shit are stored!

Gray water is bath water/wash water!

Crazy Cuban!


Lmfao!


Edit: Figured it out!

OK!

Black colored plastic water tank, not what it sounds like! And it is solar heated ?

Most people in the know, associate black water tanks with septic tanks!

Still funny!

Serpo
25th August 2014, 02:30 PM
I was more concerned about this mental image.................hehe

a naked Cuban taken a bath in his backyard ahahahhaahah.

Dogman
25th August 2014, 02:38 PM
I was more concerned about this mental image.................hehe

a naked Cuban taken a bath in his backyard ahahahhaahah.

Wonder if birds flying overhead squawk and fall out of the sky?

In shock!

Or do the wild critters in the neighborhood, leave in a hurry?

Some mental pictures I try not to visualize!

Maintaining Sanity, don't you know!:)

madfranks
25th August 2014, 03:22 PM
Ahahahah

Hope you meant "gray water". My friend!

Black water tanks are where the piss and shit are stored!

Gray water is bath water/wash water!

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I think Ponce meant the tank was the color black, not storing black water.

LOL!

Dogman
25th August 2014, 03:28 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I think Ponce meant the tank was the color black, not storing black water.

LOL!

Yes!

Agreed!

But at first read and not remembering other posts he has made!!

One would naturally think black water tank = as in travel trailers/boats and such!

Hoot!

Norweger
25th August 2014, 03:50 PM
Probably due to theft and greedy insurance companies.

Serpo
25th August 2014, 03:58 PM
And if dont own a car , then it has too stay perfectly empty.............because "they"said so....

Dachsie
25th August 2014, 05:57 PM
"“Private and public storage garages in apartment houses and hotels shall be used only for storage of automobiles.”

This law, as bad as it is, is not about "Your Own Garage."

This is about United Nations Agenda 21 / Sustainable Development prison planet controls that are very strong in San Fran and the "Bay Area."

In population-dense upscale urban areas, there are also more and more bad laws like this on people who own their own single-family house - not renting. Not a stack'em & pack'em building full of multiple living units. These bad laws on private home owners are starting out as "homeowners associations fees and rules" but there are general city ordinances now that are telling even private home owners who are not part of a home owners association area what they can and cannot do with their front yard, driveway, grass etc. and what they can display in the way of signs.

StreetsOfGold
25th August 2014, 06:04 PM
It's a whole lot easier to search a garage quickly with ONLY a car than one with boxes and all kinds of stuff stacked all over the place, especially if you are going house to house (garage to garage)

MNeagle
25th August 2014, 06:25 PM
I recall being astonished in the late 80's seeing ads renting outdoor parking spaces, on the street, for hundreds of dollars a month in SF...

palani
26th August 2014, 04:54 AM
There is the principle of 'impossibility'. Here is the code again


“Private and public storage garages in apartment houses and hotels shall be used only for storage of automobiles.

Now two points.

Does a singular 'garage' fit in the heading of plural 'garages'?

If you have a one car garage is it possible to fit 'automobiles' (two or more) in it at the same time?

The concept of singular and plural has baffled lawmakers for at least 400-500 years. In all that time they still don't get it right.

mick silver
26th August 2014, 06:51 AM
my focking eyes hurt
Yes I do have a hot tub that I use every two days in winter to take a bath.....in summer I use my 550 gallon black water tank where the top water in the tank is always hot......nothing like a naked Cuban taken a bath in his backyard ahahahhaahah.

V

Dogman
26th August 2014, 08:30 AM
Yes I do have a hot tub that I use every two days in winter to take a bath.....in summer I use my 550 gallon black water tank where the top water in the tank is always hot......nothing like a naked Cuban taken a bath in his backyard ahahahhaahah.

V

Amigo

You may want to try something like this for a winter hot tub!

Cowboy hot tub!

6691

Kinda cool in a haphazard way..

Can not figure if they are washing or are lunch!

;D

mick silver
27th August 2014, 11:04 AM
hey don't make fun of that tub . i have one some thing like that but i use a wood stove with a copper coil and a small pump to move the water and it works great

Dogman
27th August 2014, 11:08 AM
hey don't make fun of that tub . i have one some thing like that but i use wood stove that heats the water

Never would!

Nothing beats a big and deep claw footed cast iron tub!

Its the way it is being used is a hoot!

Cebu_4_2
27th August 2014, 11:23 AM
6691


How the hell they get out? Anywhere you would put your hands or feet would be hot including the sides where the water don't touch. Sounds Darwinism. No thanks!

Dogman
27th August 2014, 11:41 AM
How the hell they get out? Anywhere you would put your hands or feet would be hot including the sides where the water don't touch. Sounds Darwinism. No thanks!

Last bath and testament, before dinner?

Beer goggle good idea at the time?

Steps/platform on the other side out of sight?

Some amazing dumb crap can happen at party's

Serpo
27th August 2014, 11:50 AM
And after the earthquake they will be living in their garages ,like what happened in Christchurch...........


http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-earthquake/8233403/Quake-hit-Christchurch-families-still-living-in-squalor

madfranks
27th August 2014, 01:25 PM
And after the earthquake they will be living in their garages ,like what happened in Christchurch...........


http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-earthquake/8233403/Quake-hit-Christchurch-families-still-living-in-squalor

And then the zoning officials will walk from house to house, giving people fines and tickets for storing themselves in their garages, in violation of the law, LOL!