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EE_
10th January 2014, 02:45 AM
I don't think anyone has followed Fuku closer then Arnie.
Watch his latest vid http://fairewinds.org/media/fairewinds-videos/west-coast-radiation-exposure-risks
mick silver
10th January 2014, 04:29 AM
Arnie Gundersen Caught on Video Lying About Risk of Radiation Released During Fukushima Event Rod Adams (http://atomicinsights.com/author/rod-adams/) · July 13, 2012 · 104 Comments (http://atomicinsights.com/arnie-gundersen-caught-on-video-lying-about-risk-of-radiation-released-during-fukushima-event/#comments)
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Arnie Gundersen, the sole engineer of Fairewinds Associates (http://www.fairewinds.org/), continues to tell lies about the radiation released from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plants. He also continues to lie about the potential effects and seeks to spread fear and uncertainty where neither one are justified. He is a dangerous man on a mission to make money by harming the industry that once employed him – until he was fired for poor performance of his assigned duties.
He recently appeared on Democracy Now (http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/6/as_japan_says_fukushima_disaster_man), a liberal news program that recognizes the ills of unfettered capitalism and an economy that is dependent on using the atmosphere as a waste dump for massive quantities of fossil fuel waste. Unfortunately, the presenters and producers at Democracy Now (http://www.democracynow.org/) also have a huge blind spot regarding the use of atomic energy. They think of it as something to fear and attack instead of recognizing it as the most powerful tool in the tool box for reducing that dependence on burning fossil fuel and dumping the waste into our shared atmosphere.
I know enough about the rules of journalism and libel to recognize that calling someone a liar produces a risk of legal action, but, by definition, a liar is someone who tells lies. I also recognize that Gundersen has apparently attracted some major backers; his publicity machine and the continuing improvements on his organization’s web site and his video productions do not come cheap. That adds to the risk of writing an article that directly accuses him of lying.
However, when talking about the radiation released from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plants Arnie has stepped into territory where his words can be fact-checked; his statements can be compared to measurements and shown to be false.
For example, in the above video, Mr. Gundersen makes the following claim (http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/6/as_japan_says_fukushima_disaster_man#transcript):
The amount of radiation released was clearly as much as Chernobyl, but most of it headed out to sea.
(Emphasis added.)
Here is a direct comparison of the amount of radiation released by the two separate accidents from the science blog of Nature (http://blogs.nature.com/news/2011/09/directly_comparing_fukushima_t.html). Nature (http://www.nature.com/) is one of the most respected sources of accurate information on the planet.
Indeed, the total estimate delivered to the International Atomic Energy Agency in June states that Fukushima has released 1.5×1016 becquerels (Bq) of Cs-137—about a fifth of the Cs-137 from Chernobyl. The total radioactive release from Fukushima is currently estimated at about 5.5% of Chernobyl, which spewed an incredible 1.4×1019Bq.
The Fukushima fallout is notable for what it doesn’t contain. Some very nasty contaminants like strontium-90, americium-241, and various plutonium isotopes are all absent in any significant quantity because the concrete vessels around the reactors appear to be largely intact. In Chernobyl, the explosion and subsequent fire spewed these extremely dangerous isotopes far and wide.
(Emphasis added.)
Mr. Gundersen also makes the following bold prediction (http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/6/as_japan_says_fukushima_disaster_man#transcript) that puts him way outside of the realm of the accepted science of radiation health effects.
My estimate is that over the next 30 years we’re going to see about a million cancers as a result of this.
Quoting from a Nature article titled Japan’s post-Fukushima earthquake health woes go beyond radiation effects (http://www.nature.com/news/japan-s-post-fukushima-earthquake-health-woes-go-beyond-radiation-effects-1.10179)
A year out, public health experts agree that the radiation fears were overblown. Compared with the effects of the radiation exposure from Fukushima, “the number of expected fatalities are never going to be that large,” says Thomas McKone, of the University of California, Berkeley, School of Public Health.
And some, including Richard Garfield, a professor of Clinical and International Nursing at Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health, go a step further. “In terms of the health impact, the radiation is negligible,” he says. “The radiation will cause very few, close to no deaths.” But that does not mean that the accident has not already caused wide-reaching health issues. “The indirect effects are great,” Garfield says.
(Emphasis added.)
There is a vast gap between a prediction of “very few, close to no deaths” and “we’re going to see about a million cancers.”
Here is a description of some of the indirect effects that worry Richard Garfield and many other caring people who understand science, engineering, modern industrial society, and medicine.
Of course, no matter how prepared a country is a massive disaster is devastating for individuals. People who lost their homes, villages and family members, and even just those who survived the quake, will likely continue to face mental health challenges and the physical ailments that come with stress, such as heart disease. “Much of the damage was really psychological—the stress of not knowing, of being relocated,” U.C. Berkeley’s McKone says.
Experts on the ground in Japan agree. “Mental health is the most significant issue,” notes Seiji Yasumura, a gerontologist at Fukushima Medical University’s Department of Public Health. Stress, such as that caused by dislocation, uncertainty and concern about unseen toxicants, has been linked to increased risk for physical ailments, such as heart disease. So even if radiation risks are low, “people are still worried,” he says. And that can also lead to unhealthy behavioral changes, “including dietary choices, lack of exercise and sleep deprivation”—all of which can have long-term negative health consequences. Many of the survivors are elderly, whom either lost a partner or even an entire family. As after the Kobe earthquake of 1995, the Japanese government has created housing for these disconnected older adults. But, as Garfield notes, “the government can’t buy you a new family.”
There are also what Garfield calls, “the immeasureable, imponderable” effects of the disaster. Those who relocated from the prefecture report having experienced discrimination and, especially immediately following the accident, were considered somehow “contaminated.” Traditional Japanese values also prize stoicism, which means that people who are suffering mental or even physical distress might be less likely to seek the care they need.
Those negative health effects are, to a large degree, produced by purposeful acts of spreading lies aimed at increasing fear so that people will be motivated to march against the restoration of power production (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/01/japan-protest-nuclear-plant-reopens) from the 48 undamaged reactors that remain shut down.
Japan should not be experiencing another summer of severe power shortages and Japanese people should not be forced to make drastic cuts in their consumption and lifestyle. They should not be paying fossil fuel companies more than $100 million per day in extra fuel costs to supply less power than the nuclear plants could provide. The extra demand on fossil fuel in Japan is helping to keep prices up in world oil markets, so all of us are being affected. For everyone who does not sell oil or natural gas, those effects are negative.
Arnie Gundersen’s selfishly motivated campaign (http://modernmarketingjapan.blogspot.com/2011/06/always-question-motives-of-what-people.html) to build a career for himself by damaging the industry that decided to stop employing him more than 20 years ago is causing real harm to people around the world. He has been engaging in an international press push to get his worried face on as many news programs as possible. I suspect that he is seeking to increase his visibility and marketability for his one man consultancy – Fairewinds Associates. That consultancy produces antinuclear reports for hire in areas well outside of his trained expertise – like the one that the Friends of the Earth commissioned from him to determine the cause of the steam generator failures at San Onofre (http://neinuclearnotes.blogspot.com/2012/04/arnie-gundersen-authors-another-shoddy.html).
For people who do not understand the intricacies of the nuclear energy industry, it seems kind of logical to hire a man with a Master of Science in Nuclear Engineering to produce such a report. However, there is nothing in the nuclear engineering curricula at most schools that would provide someone with the technical skills required to analyze the material and mechanical performance of steam generators.
The plant owner has hired dozens to hundreds of specifically trained experts to be able to understand what happened; how can anyone believe that a single consultant with a degree in nuclear engineering, no professional engineering certification, and experience as a “nuclear industry executive” that ended more than 20 years ago, is capable of providing a reasonably accurate cause determination?
I do not mind helping Arnie Gundersen get his name into the press and into the conversation. I think it is important to share as much truth about his knowledge level and motivation as possible. If he wants tell lies and spread fear, uncertainty and doubt in public, he deserves whatever publicity he can capture. I just hope he realizes that pure celebrity comes with a price; it cannot be a reliable source of income and influence when some of know that is what he is seeking.
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mick silver
10th January 2014, 04:34 AM
Arnold "Arnie" Gundersen (born 4 January 1949, Elizabeth, New Jersey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth,_New_Jersey)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-pbadupws-1)) is a former nuclear industry executive and engineer with over 30 years of experience who became a whistleblower (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistleblower) in 1990.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-gunder-2)
Gundersen questioned the safety of the Westinghouse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westinghouse_Electric_Company) AP1000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AP1000), a proposed third-generation nuclear reactor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_reactor)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-autogenerated1-3) and has expressed concerns about the operation of the Vermont Yankee Nuclear Power Plant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermont_Yankee_Nuclear_Power_Plant). He served as an expert witness in the investigation of the Three Mile Island accident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-globalpost-4) and has provided commentary on the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster).[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-autogenerated2-5)[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-autogenerated5-6)[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-autogenerated4-7)[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-autogenerated3-8)
Contents
BackgroundGundersen is a graduate of the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rensselaer_Polytechnic_Institute) (1971), with a B.A. in nuclear engineering, and holds a master's degree in nuclear engineering, gained on an Atomic Energy Commission Fellowship (1972).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-gunder-2)[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-9)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-pbadupws-1)
CareerFrom 1972 to 1976 Gundersen worked at the Northeast Utilities Service Corporation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_Utilities) as a nuclear engineer; and from 1976 to 1979 at New York State Electric & Gas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_State_Electric_%26_Gas) as an engineering supervisor.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-pbadupws-1) From 1979 to 1990 Gundersen was employed at Nuclear Energy Services, a Danbury, Connecticut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danbury,_Connecticut)-based consulting firm.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-pbadupws-1) Gundersen served as an expert witness in the investigation of the 1979 Three Mile Island accident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident).[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-globalpost-4) He co-authored the DOE Decommissioning Handbook, First Edition (1981-2).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-pbadupws-1)
In 1990 Gundersen was a senior vice president at Nuclear Energy Services when he discovered radioactive material in an accounting safe. Three weeks after notifying the company president of what he believed to be radiation safety violations, Gundersen was fired. According to the New York Times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times), for three years, Gundersen was "awakened by harassing phone calls in the middle of the night" and "became concerned about his family's safety". Gundersen believes he was blacklisted, harassed and fired for doing what he thought was right.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-gunder-2)
From 1993 to 2008 Gundersen was employed at a number of Connecticut schools teaching mathematics and physics;[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-pbadupws-1)[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-Boughton-10) in 2007 he became Mathematics Professor at Community College of Vermont (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_College_of_Vermont).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-pbadupws-1)
Gundersen is chief engineer of Fairewinds Associates, an energy consulting company that handles money as a 501c3 non-profit organization.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-autogenerated1-3)
ViewsAP1000In April 2010, Gundersen released a report (commissioned by several anti-nuclear (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-nuclear) groups) which explored a hazard associated with the possible rusting through of the AP1000 containment structure steel liner. In the AP1000 design, the liner and the concrete are separated, and if the steel rusts through, "there is no backup containment behind it" says Gundersen.[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-mlw-11) If the dome rusted through the design would expel radioactive contaminants and the plant "could deliver a dose of radiation to the public that is 10 times higher than the N.R.C. limit" according to Gundersen. Westinghouse has disputed Gundersen’s assessment.[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-mlw-11) Gundersen has testified before the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Regulatory_Commission)’s Advisory Committee on Reactor Safeguards saying that "if a hole appeared, the chimney effect would disperse radioactive material far and wide".[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-12)
Vermont YankeeGundersen has also expressed concerns about the operation of the Vermont Yankee Nuclear Power Plant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermont_Yankee_Nuclear_Power_Plant), saying a leak of radioactive tritium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium) there could be "followed by releases of other, more dangerous materials if the plant keeps operating".[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-13)
Gundersen has said that the U.S. nuclear industry and regulators need to reexamine disaster planning and worst-case scenarios, especially in reactors such as Vermont Yankee, which have the same design as the crippled nuclear plant at the center of the 2011 Japanese Fukushima nuclear emergency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_I_nuclear_accidents). He says that Vermont Yankee and similar plants are vulnerable to a similar cascade of events as in Japan.[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-14)
FukushimaAs part of Fairewinds Energy Education, Gundersen has hosted numerous videos and provided updates about the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster.[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-15)[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-16) He was also a regular guest on media outlets such as Democracy Now (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Now) and CNN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN) discussing the issue.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-autogenerated2-5)[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-autogenerated5-6)[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-17) In an interview with Al Jazeera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera), Gundersen referred to Fukushima as "the biggest industrial catastrophe in the history of mankind".[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-18)
In September 2013 Gundersen accused the Japanese government of lying in order to secure its position as host of the 2020 Olympic Games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Olympic_Games) when it claimed that the disaster was under control and that there existed no health concerns. The plant, Gundersen said, "is leaking into the Pacific Ocean extensively" and that thyroid cancers, deformed fish and radioactive animals were being discovered.[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-19) Arnie suggested that the contamination could be contained by building a two metre thick Zeolite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeolite) wall around the reactors, which would absorb the cesium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesium).[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-autogenerated3-8)
In early October 2013, Gundersen stated that due to newly discovered leaks and impending tropical storms, the potential existed for a release of radiation 15,000 times that of Hiroshima (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroshima).[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Gundersen#cite_note-autogenerated4-7)
See also
Anti-nuclear movement in the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-nuclear_movement_in_the_United_States)
Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster)
Nuclear accidents in the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_accidents_in_the_United_States)
Nuclear power whistleblowers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_whistleblowers)
Nuclear safety in the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_safety_in_the_United_States)
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Glass
10th January 2014, 04:58 AM
appears to be some disputes between consultants. One plays the man because he doesn't have the cred.
Bigjon
10th January 2014, 01:53 PM
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?70341-Nuclear-waste-is-fake-banker-plot-energy-control-precious-radioactive-metals&highlight=galen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1R1ReBuvsMk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1R1ReBuvsMk
woodman
10th January 2014, 05:50 PM
So who's lies are we to believe? Believe nothing. Investigate everything and come up with your best conclusion. It is a shame that we cannot trust the media on an issue as critical as this. They have many reasons to lie. Their masters call the tune they play. The Great Wurlitzer indeed.
I know where Busby stands on this issue. I haven't seen anything from Caldicott lately.
EE_
10th January 2014, 06:42 PM
There's been a lot of quake activity in the last couple days near Japan. A 5.0 hit the Fuku area in the last 24 hours.
If anyone finds any up to date reports, please post them.
Neuro
12th January 2014, 07:17 AM
Indeed, the total estimate delivered to the International Atomic Energy Agency in June states that Fukushima has released 1.5×1016 becquerels (Bq) of Cs-137—about a fifth of the Cs-137 from Chernobyl. The total radioactive release from Fukushima is currently estimated at about 5.5% of Chernobyl, which spewed an incredible 1.4×1019Bq.
I would certainly not trust this estimate. I don't think it is possible to estimate the amount of radiation released, accurately at this point, the maximum would of course be the total amount of radioactive contained initially in the fukushima reactors, then you substract what is remaining. The issue is that you cant present an estimate as fact, and use that estimate to prove that another estimate is a lie. He claims that the journal Nature is a globally very trusted journal with a good name. But it is also a journal who have been riding (or even driven) the manmade global warming bandwagon, with a lot of pseudoscientific junk science articles published to 'prove' it. I wouldn't trust Nature or any other governmental estimate trying to downplay the risk of the Fukushima disaster...
Another thing is the author starts of with character assassination of Arnie Gundersson, stating he was fired due to incompetency, when it appears he was actually fired for being a whistleblower. That is a major difference between the two. Certainly it is possible that Arnie Gundersson sometimes exaggerates risks to get attention, but I do think in this he is to be more trusted than the person who tries to paint the Fukushima disaster in a rosy light.
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