Mars Hoax - Do you know a scam when you see one?

[Norweger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5_Il2tAT7U

[Cebu_4_2]

Cant read that, cant.

[vacuum]

This video contains nothing of value. Distraction and waste of time. IMO

[Norweger]

Watching how incredibly unprofessional the paid liars of NASA are is valuable.

[Norweger]

http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/blogs/dnews-files-2013-05-mars-rat-670x440-130529-jpg.jpg

Photograph totally not taken in some desert in Murica.

[Glass]

I did think the words they used were very interesting. There was no talk of mission or objectives, just a movie, a captivating story. I come back to the same thing. It is all narrative. Words being used to tell a tale about what you see but it is not what you see. So this seeds doubt in the individual.
Remember the emperor has no clothes? It's that pshyco thing "someone" posted recently about people in a group will go along with the group no matter how insane just so they don't not fit or stand out or everyone would "look" at them. I felt that is what a lot of the clapping was. Some of the people were going really? Didn't you see that device failed to deploy in a way that would mean a unsuccessful landing? How did you not see that..... while clapping. There was that one guy with the total WTF face and then he clapped anyway but you could see in his body language. I wonder if he didn't question his whole career path.

As to the test launch thing. Was that supposed to be the Skyjack/lift craft? That was what I would expect from an amateur rocket enthusiast... or maybe I wouldn't. I might expect better given some I've seen. Like the guys who built the TopGear reliant robin space shuttle rocket. Why did it have to be so damn complicated? you land a container, inside container is vehicle. Door opens, vehicle drives away.

That was a joke, seriously. And why were they trying to take off? The thing is not supposed to land according to their PR video. It's supposed to drop in from orbit, release the rover vehicle and then shot off and crash some safe distance away.

I found a funny thing happened on the way to the moon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xciCJfbTvE4) pretty convincing. This also some merit. I go mostly by the body language and the language of the people involved. You could tell there was a rent a crowd there. And the head guy kept putting out names for people on the project and none of them were there. You'd think they'd be calling out, excited. Can we check names dropped against real team members?

[Horn]

http://5thworld.com/5WJ/pix/Mars_Rover_Photo.jpg

[vacuum]

I did think the words they used were very interesting. There was no talk of mission or objectives, just a movie, a captivating story. I come back to the same thing. It is all narrative. Words being used to tell a tale about what you see but it is not what you see. So this seeds doubt in the individual.
Remember the emperor has no clothes? It's that pshyco thing "someone" posted recently about people in a group will go along with the group no matter how insane just so they don't not fit or stand out or everyone would "look" at them. I felt that is what a lot of the clapping was. Some of the people were going really? Didn't you see that device failed to deploy in a way that would mean a unsuccessful landing? How did you not see that..... while clapping. There was that one guy with the total WTF face and then he clapped anyway but you could see in his body language. I wonder if he didn't question his whole career path.

As to the test launch thing. Was that supposed to be the Skyjack/lift craft? That was what I would expect from an amateur rocket enthusiast... or maybe I wouldn't. I might expect better given some I've seen. Like the guys who built the TopGear reliant robin space shuttle rocket. Why did it have to be so damn complicated? you land a container, inside container is vehicle. Door opens, vehicle drives away.

That was a joke, seriously. And why were they trying to take off? The thing is not supposed to land according to their PR video. It's supposed to drop in from orbit, release the rover vehicle and then shot off and crash some safe distance away.

I found a funny thing happened on the way to the moon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xciCJfbTvE4) pretty convincing. This also some merit. I go mostly by the body language and the language of the people involved. You could tell there was a rent a crowd there. And the head guy kept putting out names for people on the project and none of them were there. You'd think they'd be calling out, excited. Can we check names dropped against real team members?
I agree that there could be the possibility of a massive lie here. The whole moon landing thing seems likely fake to me. Poor quality images, someone transporting film and people through a deadly radiation belt, an extremely low level of technology at the time for what they claimed to have accomplished, and other anomalies.

These rover missions seem much more plausable though. Technology today is incredible, from miniature embedded computers, solid state gyroscopes, etc. The only reason there would be to fake this is if there is something inherent with space travel, even for robots, which makes it impossible for some reason which is kept from the public. Possible but unlikely. Why make the rovers last for such a long time on the surface beyond the original mission goals? Seems like more work to fake something than is necessary. Why generate gigabytes of data to be analyzed?

I agree the surface of mars may look like the surface of earth...but, what do we expect? It's made of the same elements such as silicon, oxygen, metals, etc. It has the same sun as us. It has an atmosphere. It's not surprising there are rocks and sand there. As far as the body language, not only is that not any type of primary evidence, it's not even circumstantial evidence. It's almost immaterial, basically it's gut instinct, the type of thinking that was used mostly in the middle ages before the age of enlightenment.

[StreetsOfGold]

Mars movie and Obama = TOTAL Frauds!!