Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story

[PatColo]

It *kills me* to have to post this criticism of Deanna Spingola [henceforth "DS"], as I've seen her as a fountain of high quality 'Truthy' information ever since I first discovered her a couple years ago. See:


Thread: mp3s - Spingola with ZionCrimeFactory, Kaminski, Lawson, others (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?61417-mp3s-Spingola-with-ZionCrimeFactory-Kaminski-Lawson-others)
Thread: Vaccine Awareness Week - Deanna Spingola podcasts (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63470-Vaccine-BioWeapon-Awareness-Week-Deanna-Spingola-podcasts)
Thread: MEN: alt prostate cancer discussion on Spingola (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?69907-MEN-alt-prostate-cancer-discussion-on-Spingola)
Thread: Who Rewrote the Bible? Dr. Lorraine Day on Spingola (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63245-Who-Rewrote-the-Bible-Dr-Lorraine-Day-on-Spingola)
Thread: great truth radio podcast blog - no commercials! (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?60988-great-truth-radio-podcast-blog-no-commercials%21)


... and in 10s of other GSUS threads of varying topics, I've linked to DS podcasts where her guest was relevant to the thread topic. DS has emerged as probably my single favorite & most highly-valued radio podcaster. So it was crushing for me to listen to yesterday's (15 Jan 2014) DS show (http://spingolaspeaks.wordpress.com/2014/01/15/wednesday-deanna-sandy-hook/), which she did solo, discussing her [proclaimed...:-[] view of the Sandy Hoax controversy.


Find the MP3 of the 81 minute show here (https://copy.com/noNKRKZUCMzzEa3s), for downloading or listening via the player console there. DS "jumps the shark" beginning at 12:20; transcribing here:





" [...] I believe that on December 14 2012, twenty year old Adam Lanza fatally shot 20 children, and 6 adult staff members, at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown Connecticut, which was founded in 1705, which had a population in 2012 of 28,042 people. Before driving to the school, Lanza shot and killed his mother Nancy, and as first responders arrived, he committed suicide by shooting himself in the head. Friends and family attended the many funerals that were held. There were people that were killed. There were funerals.

Now, with regards to Sandy Hook, and the Boston bombing. Those are two entirely different events. The Boston bombing, with the guy in the wheelchair, and the fake blood, and all the other things that were associated with that event, which I believe was held, was orchestrated, in order to draw attention from Sandy Hook. There were obviously a lot of questionable things in that event, in the Boston Marathon event, and I do believe that it was a distraction from Sandy Hook, to get us focused on the next event, you know, let's move on, let's forget about Sandy Hook, let's move on to Boston. Don't focus on Sandy Hook people, let's go on to Boston.

Now, a little background on why I believe these things. [...] " < quote ends at 14:13 in the podcast.





DS then spends nearly the entire remainder of the show, (obviously) reading her prepared dissertation: a presumably factual summary of how evil Big Pharma is, about the perilous side effects of their SSRI anti-depressant drugs, and about their extraordinary control of government, doctors, med schools, etc. DS does take a brief detour from her Evil Big Pharma spiel, beginning at 30:40,





" [...] A little bit about Adam Lanza. His mother loved guns. She often took her sons to one of the shooting ranges in the area. She was active there. She was a gun enthusiast. Adam removed the hard drive from his computer and damaged it prior to the shooting, which created a challenge for the investigators in recovering data. He was obsessed with massive school shootings. He actually had a target range in his basement, where he practiced target shooting; and you can do that without actually shooting you know. He was obsessed. He was particularly obsessed with the Columbine High School massacre, and other shootings. This was just part of his mentallity. [...] " < quote ends at 31:40 in the podcast.





DS then went on to resume her Evil Big Pharma spiel. Regarding the '...guns..' detour above, DS uncharacteristically did not cite her source for these assertions about the Lanzas & guns. But I was following and participating in the live http://spingola.chatango.com chat which is active simultaneously with DS's live show, and I asked DS what her source was for the above '...guns..' assertions. At the next break, DS responded with,


Obsessions of Adam Lanza, Newtown Killer, in Detail - NYTimes.com (https://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/29/nyregion/search-warrants-reveal-items-seized-at-adam-lanzas-home.html?pagewanted=all) (31 March 2013)*


Did you catch that? DS's "source", was none other than The JEW NEW York Times... :D No wonder she uncharacteristically didn't cite her source for these assertions in her live show; it would have instantly crushed the cred of the Sandy Hoax 'message' which her solo show was designed to deliver. What's next, is DS going to come out affirming zion.nist.gov's WTC7 story, coz NYT reported it? ???



Building 7: The Story the Times Missed - ReThink911 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_LBZ9ogA3E)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_LBZ9ogA3E


*(Note: In her show-chat session, DS did not LINK to her NYT source; she only dropped a TEXT chat message with title, NYT, and date. I've closed the chatango chat window already and I'm not sure how to retrieve the entire show-chat at chatango; but her citation's title included the word "Chilling", it was NYT, and it was dated March '13. My Startpage search for the NYT story she cited didn't yield anything with all 3 of those ingredients, only the latter 2. The only NYT Lanza story with the word "Chilling" in the title, was dated in Nov '13: Chilling Look at Newtown Killer, but No 'Why' - NYTimes.com (https://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/26/nyregion/sandy-hook-shooting-investigation-ends-with-motive-still-unknown.html). So I pointed to the Mar '13 NYT story above. It could be she drew from multiple NYT/Lanza articles, though she didn't cite them in her show-chat session.)


So, DS's proclaimed view of 'The REAL Truth of Sandy Hoax', is right in line with that which TUT blog's Glenn/Piper/Tillawi crew has advocated though 2013, namely that zion.gov's official SH narrative is essentially accurate, and that the lethal side effects of Evil Big Pharma's SSRI's should be the take-home message of Sandy Hoax. DS presented her show as "a different take on Sandy Hook"; but there was nothing 'different' about it; it was just her falling in line with the TUT blog's SH tact over the past ~year. :( To her credit, she didn't lower herself, and indeed condemned, playing the 'ridicule' card in seeking to discourage SH-skepticism-- that card being the central gambit in the Glenn/Piper/Tillawi crew's nausiating efforts to discourage/silence SH-skepticism, while trying to prop up zion.gov's official SH story.




http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Everyone-must-check-in-320x251.jpg




Also right in line with TUT blog's SH tact, was DS's conspicuous avoidance of addressing the numerous problems with zion.gov's official SH narrative (http://www.john-friend.net/2013/10/sandy-hook-shooting-wheres-proof.html) (also ref Dr. Tracy's SH blog (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/sandy-hook-elementary/), and "Top Ten Reasons: Sandy Hook Was an Elaborate Hoax (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/01/10/top-ten-reasons-sandy-hook-was-an-elaborate-hoax/)" authored by Vivian Lee, Sofia Smallstorm, James Tracy, Jim Fetzer and the Sandy Hook Research Group). At 29:00, DS addressed a 'dissenting' chat message posted by one the the show-chat participants:





" Somebody in the chat room just said, 'Deanna, I agree that they are covering for SSRIs, but there is more to it than just that. There is too much that just does not add up.'

I totally agree with you. I totally agree with you. "




DS then just resumed her Evil Big Pharma spiel, without expanding on her statement above whatsoever. Now, how does that concilliatory statement above, 'throwing a bone' to the SH-Skeptic/Truth Community which DS was officially parting company with in this show, jibe with her 12:20 " [...] I believe that on December 14 2012, twenty year old Adam Lanza fatally [...] " statement quoted in full above? Answer: IT JUST FLAT DOESN'T. She's either being disingenuous in her "I totally agree with you" shtick, or she's being disingenuous with her whole anti-SH-Skeptic/Truth shtick. Because it simply cannot be both ways!


Another element of DS's overall anti-SH-skepticism appeal, actually asserts that the SH-Skeptic/Truth movement, is itself, a zion.corp.gov operation.... :D Yes, she suggests that the 'SH = HOAX WITH ACTORS' movement might itself be a big op designed to (mis)lead 'Truthers' into a fruitless avenue of inquiry, diverting their attention & scrutiny away from Big Pharma's SSRIs with their suicidal and mass-murderous side effects... o)(~ DS at 1:15:40 :





"[...] Now, if 27 people were murdered on that day, were killed on that day, because the shooter was taking a psychotropic drug, and if people, people in the mainstream are not going to ask any questions. Typically people are so busy; they're watching TV, they're being massively entertained, they're not going to ask questions; they're going to believe everything they're told. People in the alternative media are not like that. We are going to be skeptical, we're going to ask questions, we're going to make the connection between a mass shooting, and a drug company that makes billions of dollars a year selling psychotropic drugs. So the best way for a counter-operation, is to say, 'Hey, nobody died. Nobody died that day.' [...]"




I don't even understand how her "...the Boston Marathon event, and I do believe that it was a [B]distraction from Sandy Hook, to get us focused on the next event, you know, let's move on, let's forget about Sandy Hook, let's move on to Boston. Don't focus on Sandy Hook people, let's go on to Boston " shtick, quoted in full above, is supposed to fit into her larger SH theory, where she professes to believe that zion.gov's official SH narrative is essentially accurate. So, what's .gov's MOTIVE in seeking to divert the public's attention from SH?! Lemme guess: Big.Pharma.gov was PANICING that too many 'REAL Truthers' were not taking .gov's fabricated 'SH = HOAX WITH ACTORS Movement' bait; and that they were instead smartly focusing on the dangers of SSRIs; and therefore Boston was staged to snuff out SH scrutiny altogether? REALLY?? Baffling SH/Boston theory for DS to assert! :o (IF that's her reasoning-- I can only speculate because she didn't clarify her theory for zion.gov's motive...)


So in summary, I don't know for sure what to make of DS's jumping the shark WRT Sandy Hoax like this, but I do suspect something amiss behind the scenes. Think, John Perkins' "pile of money in one hand, bullet in the other... pick one!" analogy. She did get on board with American Free Press a few months ago-- and AFP, as well as Mike Piper, are credibly alleged by Chris Bollyn to be CIA controlled opposition ops, ref:


Thread: Bollyn on DBS, Hufschmid, Piper, Thorn, CIA (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?26690-Bollyn-on-DBS-Hufschmid-Piper-Thorn-CIA)



also see, including the posts following these:

Abandoning support for The Ugly Truth podcasts (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?57478-The-Ugly-Truth-podcasts&p=614081&viewfull=1#post614081) - The TUT blog guys continue to alienate me with their coordinated & nauseatingly ongoing 'anti-Sandy-Hook-skepticism' campaign, spearheaded by Glenn, Piper & Tillawi.

The Piper Report 2013.08.26 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?26690-Bollyn-on-DBS-Hufschmid-Piper-Thorn-CIA&p=655645&viewfull=1#post655645) - posturing himself as the big 'anti-shill', whilst shilling away through the show about a variety of people & topics

Current Issues with Hesham Tillawi Jan 13, 2013 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?65846-new-shooting-Newtown-Conn-details-breaking&p=603757&viewfull=1#post603757) - The Glenn/Piper/Tillawi crew introduce their new campaign: Zion.gov is telling the truth about Sandy HookNose events, and those doubting this are "hurting the Truth Movement"... :o

[Tumbleweed]

She probably had a visit from the Jewish Mafia like a lot of others have. Probably threats against herself and family. If the Jews can't bribe or blackmail someone they kill them. Lots of that exposed in the book by Mike King "Forbidden History of the NWO".

[woodman]

From Pat's post:
Now, with regards to Sandy Hook, and the Boston bombing. Those are two entirely different events. The Boston bombing, with the guy in the wheelchair, and the fake blood, and all the other things that were associated with that event, which I believe was held, was orchestrated, in order to draw attention from Sandy Hook. There were obviously a lot of questionable things in that event, in the Boston Marathon event, and I do believe that it was a distraction from Sandy Hook, to get us focused on the next event, you know, let's move on, let's forget about Sandy Hook, let's move on to Boston. Don't focus on Sandy Hook people, let's go on to Boston.
This is quite ridiculous for her to assert that they would like to draw attention away from Sandy Hook. Sandy Hook was their masterpiece and I'd think they would do anything to milk it for all it is worth. Very strange. Thanks for bringing this to our attention Pat.

[Horn]

Sounds like she might have a stigmatism of some sort with regards to big pharma, some personal experience that clouds vision with hate possibly.

While the story may have been dumped for those reasons, it does not guarantee truth.

[PatColo]

This is quite ridiculous for her to assert that they would like to draw attention away from Sandy Hook. Sandy Hook was their masterpiece and I'd think they would do anything to milk it for all it is worth. Very strange. Thanks for bringing this to our attention Pat.

We're on the same page as to SH being a Zion.gov false flag hoax, designed to be milked hard. And milk it they did, of course.

http://nathanbickel.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/sandyhookshootingobamausingchildrenaspropsevil.jpg ?w=577&h=501


But Spingola is claiming to believe SH was real, as zion.gov has purported! And that Boston was a true FF/hoax, staged by zion.gov to divert the public's attention away from SH?! WHY?! Zion.media.gov (http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/jews-do-control-the-media/) was all about immersing the public in their Sandy HookNoseHOAX, in order to move their agenda forward!

http://s2.postimg.org/xfa0py1wp/rosenringing.jpg


Separately, here's a prediction. Today (16 Jan) SH-Skeptic John Friend is supposed to have a 'debate' over SH, with MCPiper who professes to believe zion.gov isn't lying in this one anomalous instance wrt SH.

Not sure when, as I don't see it "Upcoming" on either JFriend's or AFP's blogtalk pages. But imagining it takes place, I predict Piper will milking this Spingola show for all it's worth, in seeking to puff up their completely untenable 'zion.gov aint lying about SH' position.

[VX1]

sandy hooknosehoax -lmfao!

...and holy crap, you nailed it with Rosen's caricature.

[Norweger]

The evil of these creatures is beyond what many are capable of imagining, we have to forgive them for that.

[Jewboo]

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Rand-Paul-Jerusalem-Wall.jpg
Son Of Ron will save us goyim in 2016




I dunno. Springola is probably just becoming realistic and taking a dive like all the other so-called Truthers. The notion that us goyim will ever have Someone lead us against the jews is obviously laughable in 2014. Remember Ron Paul and Glen Beck and Jesse Ventura and all the other sell-outs? Keeping the fools who listen to talk radio distracted from their fucked up lives. As phony as Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party. It's all been futile ever since this guy failed at trying to unite us goys:



http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f185/355028d1334944064t-adolf-hitler-adolf_hitler_by_ingyaningya-d4i604p.jpg








:rolleyes: 1945 was our last and final chance and we blew it











http://theinfounderground.com/smf/Smileys/jewset/gibs.gif They own us now. Go watch their teevee and behave

[woodman]

Book, I won't thank your post for the simple reason that I believe you are being too defeatist. Yes, we are a conquered people, all the more so because most of us do not even realize that we are slaves and have been conquered, but that is what this is all about...., it is the reason we are here debating and sharing ideas; we must keep informing those around us and teaching them about what has been done and what history is real and what is hoax. Don't give up people. Don't ever give up and continue to teach those around you.

[PatColo]

When I posted the OP, Mami's Shit blog hadn't yet posted this Jan 15 Spingola show. They pretty much always post Spingola's shows within maybe 1-2 hours after the live airing, so this was unusual, coz I posted the OP about 16 hours after the Jan 15 show ended, and still no Mami's post of the show. Well it finally appeared there, some ~24 hours after the live show! I was eager to read the comments, of course. Well it's been @ Mami's about 10 hours now, and has 11 comments atm:


Spingola Speaks 2014.01.15 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/01/spingola-speaks-20140115.html)



http://www.spingola.com/Deanna%2005.jpg

(http://www.spingola.com/Deanna%2005.jpg)

As it seems that the online controversy including but not limited to independent authors, bloggers, investigators, journalists, researchers, and last but not in the least, talk show hosts, continues over what did or did not happen at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut on December 14th, 2012, Deanna talked about this issue today.

News Page (http://mynewspage.wordpress.com/websites/deanna-spingola/)
Deanna's site (http://www.spingola.com/radio_schedule.html)
Official chat room (http://spingola.chatango.com/)
Spingola Speaks .Info (http://spingolaspeaks.info/)


Download MP3 (http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/3hllzm71rw/Spingola.Speaks.Deanna.Spingola.2014.01.15.mp3)



Posted by Mami (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13298385482303078866) at 12:51 PM 11 comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=1713485032977651698)


I was so interested to see the Mami's "uncensored" comments, coz I know first hand that Spingola-related sites have been CENSORING, such as
Wednesday, Deanna ~ Sandy Hook (http://spingolaspeaks.wordpress.com/2014/01/15/wednesday-deanna-sandy-hook/)


^ where, within 30 mins of posting the OP here, I submitted it as a comment there. I posted this thread title, and the link to here. It went into "awaiting moderation" queue. So I kept the browser tab open, refreshing from time to time. After a few hours, my submission was gone, into the ether. CENSORED. And at this writing, there are still NO COMMENTS posted there. Does that make any sense, when Mami's blog for the show has 11 comments in just ~10 hours?

"IRONIC", as those readers who listened to the show know, Deanna opened it with a spiel about gatekeeping, and the "Delphi Technique (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?59960-Defeating-Delphi-technique-at-%28fake%29-quot-public-input-quot-mtgs)" within the TM?! :-[

When I have more time, I'll post about my experience in the live show chatango chat session-- how the mod there "30o06" (thirty odd six) was DELPHI-ing the chat room, ad-hom 'ridiculing' critical commenters, and yes, CENSORING (deleting critical comments, incl several of mine, whilst denying having deleted anything). :(

Actually, besides Deanna's jumping the shark on SH; that ^ very 'telling' chat room experience helped put a fire under me to write this critical thread! Something stinks in Spingola land... I hope she's okay, not too stressed out, imagining she's under some sort of coercion to betray common sense, her audience, etc like she has with her untenable [proclaimed...] SH/Boston position!

[Glass]

the "truth" movement is full of pied pipers. It would be another shame.

[Santa]

the "truth" movement is full of pied pipers. It would be another shame.

It is a shame. If Spingola has been compromised though, it wouldn't surprise me. If she has become popular, it would mean that her show is a commercial success.
Commerce is under the jurisdiction of law and law is governed. Actually Law is Government. Or rather Government is the enactment and enforcement of Law.
So, if a show becomes popular, it will attract the enforcers of law to it like flies to honey. Who knows, perhaps she received a call from her attorney or some such noser,
to cease certain commentary or be sanctioned, or litigated out of existence. It is a shame. It turns free speech into a bad joke.

[PatColo]

Deanna responds (13th reply (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=1713485032977651698), no direct link) @ Mami's:


Deanna (http://www.blogger.com/profile/05963058800259904712) said...

I opened my program with this statement: "I expect that some people will ridicule me for today’s program. In that regard, I would like to have you refer back to the program that I conducted on Thursday, December 19, 2013 when I discussed Beverly K. Eakman’s book, How to Counter Group Manipulation Tactics. On the front cover, there is a group of 23 people sitting at a round table. Then there is the facilitator or operative who is probably five times the size of the targets, the group of people. In a text bubble, he is saying “Even a child could see…” We in the truth movement are a group of people; each of us has that herd mentality whether we admit it or not. We do not want to counter a popular stance because we do not want to be ridiculed." Predictably, people have responded as I anticipated, along with name-calling, something in which I do not engage. I did not mention anyone else's research on this event or do a hatchet job on anyone. That is not my style!

At no time did I say that I accepted the government's views of this event. Truth is not a popularity contest or something to vote on. So what if others have previously produced their views on this event. Does that mean 'case closed' - no other views are allowed? I presented some other thoughts about the event. I do not have a monopoly on the truth and I don't think that anyone else does either. As I stated at the end of the program, I was not there. Anyone who was not there has no idea what happened. We are all susceptible and vulnerable to what we read and see in the media, including the Internet. People should be open-minded enough to review all the possibilities. Apparently, some people have selectively listened to what I said or didn't even bother to listen to the entire program and have already made up their minds about what is true and what isn't. As far as accusing me of buying the official version, what of those who accepted the MS media's programming suggestions of controlled demolition on 9/11? Does that mean that they have sold out to Silverstein and his cronies? Are they also suspect?


January 17, 2014 at 11:01 AM

[PatColo]

Deanna responds (13th reply (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=1713485032977651698), no direct link) @ Mami's:

Pat Colo said...


Deanna: U said,





"At no time did I say that I accepted the government's views of this event."





The core of zion.gov's SH story is,





"[I believe that] on December 14 2012, twenty year old Adam Lanza fatally shot 20 children, and 6 adult staff members, at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown Connecticut, [...] Before driving to the school, Lanza shot and killed his mother Nancy, and as first responders arrived, he committed suicide by shooting himself in the head. Friends and family attended the many funerals that were held. There were people that were killed. There were funerals."





^ Those are your words, beginning at 12:20 in the published MP3 version of your 15 January show. We can quibble over minutia perhaps, but that's the core of zion.gov's official Sandy-HookNosedHOAX fable, which you "accepted" above.


After flatly proclaiming your 'belief' in the quote above, you did not address the numerous problems with that belief; displaying the same tact as the TUT Glenn/Piper/Tillawi crew. Those problems include but aren't limited to:


http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/01/10/top-ten-reasons-sandy-hook-was-an-elaborate-hoax


At 29:00, you addressed a 'dissenting' chat message posted by one the the show-chat participants. You said:





" Somebody in the chat room just said, 'Deanna, I agree that they are covering for SSRIs, but there is more to it than just that. There is too much that just does not add up.'

I totally agree with you. I totally agree with you. "





How can your "I totally agree with you" response to that chat room participant, jibe with your flatly proclaimed 'beliefs' in your first quote above?


At 30:40, you took a brief detour from you Big Pharma focus, and you made a number of assertions about the Lanza family's gun obsession, a target range in their basement, Adam's fascination with mass school shootings, and more; but you very uncharacteristically didn't cite your source for these assertions. I was in the chat room as Anon xx17 (where I don't recall the 'xx'), and I asked what your source was for these assertions. You responded a few minutes later, with a text (not hyperlink) message citing a March '13 Je- I mean, New York Times article about the SH event. The title was something about "..Chilling Details.." but I don't recall exactly because I've long since closed the chatango window, and I'm not sure how to retrieve the chat from your 15 Jan show.


But it was disturbing that in this obviously pre-prepared script which you read for your 15 Jan show, that you opted not to cite your source for those claims about the Lanzas on air for your listening audience-- claims which, IF TRUE, would be so supportive of zion.gov's official SH story, and so damaging to SH skeptics. It was only in the chatango chat room, when asked directly, that you coughed up that your 'source' was the NEW YORK TIMES.


I could go on, but fact is, I put a good deal of work into this 'article' posted at my squalid little internet rat-hole:


http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story


where readers can read fuller transcribed quotes, blah blah.


I hope you're well Deanna-- seriously! :)


January 17, 2014 at 2:04 PM

[Jewboo]

It was only in the chatango chat room, when asked directly, that you coughed up that your 'source' was the NEW YORK TIMES.





http://theinfounderground.com/smf/Smileys/jewset/gibs.gif Jew York Times




Why jews long ago took control of all our newspapers and teevee and most recently our internet.

[woodman]

http://theinfounderground.com/smf/Smileys/jewset/gibs.gif Jew York Times




Why jews long ago took control of all our newspapers and teevee and most recently our internet.

I don't think they have total control of the internet. They would like that, but the net is still semi-free. It may be that we will look back on these days and days gone by and see it as the 'wild west' of the internet. The internet is a battleground right now. We can win this. I don't know that there will be anything left after it is all over though. They seem to be exercising the Samson Option wether they win or not. Crazy bastards! Information is what it is all about. You need to give up your defeatist attitude. Maybe we should all just roll over and give up because the mighty Jews have won the field.

[Jewboo]

You need to give up your defeatist attitude. Maybe we should all just roll over and give up because the mighty Jews have won the field.




:rolleyes:

[PatColo]

Deanna's done no less than 2 more (above/beyond the OP podcast) solo/monolog shows over the past week, where she recites prepared spiels seeking to 'prove' that SH was what zion.media.gov have told us. She's mostly focused on "the dangers of SSRIs". I haven't posted them here... I was feeling sort of bad about the whole ordeal. Deanna's weeping off & on in these shows, over "the SH tragedy". I actually sent her a nice "nothing personal..." em, and she wrote back a nice reply.

the first was this Jan 21 show on AFP radio:
The Spingola Zone (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americanfreepress/2014/01/21/the-spingola-zone)


and the other was 2 days later on her RBN show:


Jan 23 2014 (http://spingolaspeaks.wordpress.com/2014/01/23/thursday-deanna-sandy-hook/)

Thursday, Deanna ~ Sandy Hook (http://spingolaspeaks.wordpress.com/2014/01/23/thursday-deanna-sandy-hook/)

Deanna’s scheduled guest, Christina England (http://profitableharm.com/home.html) was not able to make today’s broadcast. Deanna chose to talk about her research into the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting (http://spingola.com/sandyhook.html). (MP3 (https://copy.com/PLhk6gDQYshtTk4i))




Listen if you're curious-- problem with them IMHO is her reliance on zion.gov docs (death certs which no one has actually seen outside that little joo rag in joo york who got them through a FOIA request and then hoarded them; Social Sec. death records; joo rags like NYT) in making her case! As it is with 911, the perps have provided all the "evidence" she cites! 911 Whitewash Commish Report, anyone?



http://i.imgur.com/XLTJQbd.jpg



And re her citing the NYT as some sort of "credible source" wrt Sandy Hoax; at least a couple times she's had on as esteemed guest, Mike King of Tomatobubble.com (http://www.tomatobubble.com/), who publishes "The Anti-New York Times", a newsletter which deconstructs the slick/subtle propaganda MOs of the latest NYT headlines.


So with that ^ said, last night we had this more robust debate podcast, 2 hours:


Monday, January 27, 2014

DATE WITH A DEBATE: MIKE PIPER VS. JIM FETZER AND JOHN FRIEND (http://www.john-friend.net/2014/01/date-with-debate-mike-piper-vs-jim.html)



http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3OPI_HMYWTU/Uucemf0k66I/AAAAAAAAC0s/JKN9Y-FgoBk/s1600/Date+with+Debate.jpg (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3OPI_HMYWTU/Uucemf0k66I/AAAAAAAAC0s/JKN9Y-FgoBk/s1600/Date+with+Debate.jpg)

On Monday, January 27, 2014, at 8 p.m. ET, Dave Gahary moderates the debate many of us have been waiting for.
For two hours, Mike Piper takes on Jim Fetzer and John Friend, who tackle the controversy surrounding the Sandy Hook Elementary School event, which will address most or all of the points raised in the article “Top Ten Reasons: Sandy Hook was an Elaborate Hoax (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/01/07/top-ten-reasons-sandy-hook-was-an-elaborate-hoax/),” plus additional information which may cause you to reassess your position on whether what happened on December 14, 2012 was real or staged.

Jim has published an article (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/01/25/the-ugly-truth-about-michael-collins-piper-cass-sunstein-and-sandy-hook/) on his debate with Keith Johnson (http://americanfreepress.net/?p=14908) and Mike has broadcast his thoughts (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/tutradionetwork/2014/01/26/tpr-jan-25-2014) about Jim, John and Sandy Hook.

Since John will be joining us approximately 30 minutes after the start of the show, we will begin by giving Jim a chance to respond to Mike’s broadcast and Mike to respond to Jim’s article, although neither is required to do so.
When John arrives, he will be allowed a 10 minute opening statement.

The debate will follow this format:

The moderator will ask questions to each participant where they will have no more than five minutes to present their argument and evidence. If less than the allotted time is used, it will be set aside for a less structured discussion towards the end. At the end of the debate, each participant will have no more than five minutes for their closing statement. Personal or unnecessary attacks will be met with the mute button.

A tamper-proof poll will be activated halfway through the debate allowing for only one vote per IP address. Obviously, it would make sense to cast your vote only after you are completely convinced. Don’t simply vote for one participant because you dislike the other; listen to their arguments. Please treat the vote as if you yourself were running for some sort of public office.

____________________________




Please go vote in the poll (http://americanfreepress.net/?p=15106) over at American Free Press. You can download the entire program here (http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/5/989/show_5989273.mp3).

Here is the opening statement I prepared for this debate:


more, incl developing reader comments: http://www.john-friend.net/2014/01/date-with-debate-mike-piper-vs-jim.html

See Mami's reader comments:
Date with a Debate: Mike Piper vs. Jim Fetzer and John Friend 2014.01.27 (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=4294189423932180972)

[PatColo]

DATE WITH A DEBATE: MIKE PIPER VS. JIM FETZER AND JOHN FRIEND (http://www.john-friend.net/2014/01/date-with-debate-mike-piper-vs-jim.html)

some post mortem, everyone proclaiming victory, what else is new?


Tuesday, January 28th, 2014 | Posted by Jim Fetzer (http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/fetzer/)
After two defeats over Sandy Hook, AFP editor declines a third debate (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/01/28/after-two-defeats-over-sandy-hook-afp-editor-declines-a-third-debate/)

I won't link to TUT (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?57478-The-Ugly-Truth-podcasts&p=614081&viewfull=1#post614081) (where MCP hangs out) but they're crowing victory too, spewing ad homs, same old same old from TUT.

[PatColo]

Fetzer show last Friday, 2 good guests:

Friday, January 24, 2014Wolfgang Halbig / Sofia Smallstorm (http://nwopodcast.com/fetz/media/jim%20fetzer%20real%20deal-sandy%20hoax%20debate%20post%20mortem.mp3)

^ MP3 link


A school security expert addresses Sandy Hook

Posted by Total at 11:41 PM 12 comments: (http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2014/01/wolfgang-w-halbig-sofia-smallstorm.html#comment-form)




First hour guest Wolfgang.. is the subject of:

Retired Cop and Educator Threatened for Questioning Sandy Hook Investigation (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/01/25/retired-cop-and-educator-threatened-for-questioning-sandy-hook-investigation/) 265 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/01/25/retired-cop-and-educator-threatened-for-questioning-sandy-hook-investigation/#comments)

Guest Posts (http://memoryholeblog.com/category/guest-posts/), Interviews (http://memoryholeblog.com/category/interviews/) • Tags: gun control (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/gun-control/), police state (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/police-state/), Sandy Hook Elementary (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/sandy-hook-elementary/)

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRwD9C_x9o_PML5d1ImaIc8LLT509hJu wSVseasT-oQsg3NZ059

By Wolfgang W. Halbig*

The correspondence below was sent by Wolfgang Halbig to Connecticut State Police Lieutenant J. Paul Vance and Newtown Police Chief Michael Kehoe on January 22, 2014. A retired Florida State Trooper, US Customs Inspector, school administrator, security consultant and entrepreneur, Mr. Halbig has independently researched the Sandy Hook Massacre for over one year.
More… (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/01/25/retired-cop-and-educator-threatened-for-questioning-sandy-hook-investigation/#more-8223)

[PatColo]

Spingola & guest Keith Johnson today; both proclaim S.Hoax true-believerism (in zion.gov's story). Very telling how J.Fetzer calls in @ 55:00, Spingola quickly mutes him & gives KJ the a couple mins to make a solo spiel, then Spingola hangs up on JF. :(


Spingola Speaks 2014.02.05 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/02/spingola-speaks-20140205.html)

Guest: Keith Johnson, a journalist at American Free Press (http://americanfreepress.net/). Kieth and Deanna talk about Sandy Hook

News Page (http://mynewspage.wordpress.com/websites/deanna-spingola/)
Deanna's site (http://www.spingola.com/radio_schedule.html)
Official chat room (http://spingola.chatango.com/)
Spingola Speaks .Info (http://spingolaspeaks.info/)



Download (http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/zbw76900qf/Spingola.Speaks.Keith.Johnson.2014.02.05.mp3)

Uncle Fester calls in about 55 mins in, and Deanna and Kieth shut him up quick. Lol

Posted by Mami (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13298385482303078866) at 3:50 PM 1 comment (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=5244789320560820550):


ETA: 2nd comment from me @ Mami's comments (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=5244789320560820550):


Pat Colo said...Another disappointing Spingola S.Hoax show!

Labeling Sofia's 911 Mysteries as "supporting the official story", based solely on D.Rather's "off-the-reservation" observation on 911 that #7 looked like a CD, was especially disingenuous & absurd! 911 Mysteries came out in '05, ~4 years after 911 when the official "pancake collapse due to intense heat" story was firmly established. CDs of 1, 2 & 7 is NOT the official story! :(

The Fetzer treatment beginning at 55:00 was VERY telling, too! KJ's shtick through the show was all ad-hom/ridicule, straw men & special pleading fallacies; but Fetzer calls in to protest, and Spingola scolds that she won't allow him to "attack her guest", and then hangs up on JF immediately after asking him a question, ?!? Given a chance to answer re JF's 'source' for his assertion, he might have cited the messageboard (IE Mami's) & "debate poll" comments, where the majority (dismissing obvious aleksa/etc type shills) have been overwhelmingly critical of the DS/TUT/etc crowd's (proclaimed...) SHoax position. No wonder she hung up on JF immediately after posing that question!

Problem with Spingola/TUT/etc's "case" IMHO is their reliance on zion.gov docs (death certs which no one has actually seen outside that little joo rag in joo york who got them through a FOIA request and then hoarded them; Social Sec. death records; joo rags like NYT) in making their case, over a year after the SH 'event' which has given the perps plenty of time to plug all the holes in their sloppy hoax! As it is with 911, the perps have provided all the "evidence" she cites! 911 Whitewash Commish Report, anyone?

And SpingolaCo's repeated declarations that "I never said I support .gov's official SH story...", I guess seeking to retain a shred-of-cred, rings hollow, when they never cite exactly which part(s) of .gov's story they have any problem with! In DS' 15 Jan show, 12:20:

" [...] I believe that on December 14 2012, twenty year old Adam Lanza fatally shot 20 children, and 6 adult staff members, at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown Connecticut, which was founded in 1705, which had a population in 2012 of 28,042 people. Before driving to the school, Lanza shot and killed his mother Nancy, and as first responders arrived, he committed suicide by shooting himself in the head. Friends and family attended the many funerals that were held. There were people that were killed. There were funerals. [...]"

"Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story "

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story

[Amanda]

Here's the latest:

http://spingola.com/unraveling1.html

[EE_]

Here's the latest:

http://spingola.com/unraveling1.html

Hello Amanda and welcome!

How did you find your way here?

[Amanda]

Hi EE!

Thanks for the welcome!

I found my way here by following PatColo's comments over at Grizzom and John Friend's blog. He posted links to "Abandoning Support for Ugly Truth Podcasts" http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?57478-The-Ugly-Truth-podcasts&p=614081&viewfull=1#post614081, and this thread, so I decided to join, since there was at least one person over here who sees things the way I do.

[EE_]

Hi EE!

Thanks for the welcome!

I found my way here by following PatColo's comments over at Grizzom and John Friend's blog. He posted links to "Abandoning Support for Ugly Truth Podcasts" http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?57478-The-Ugly-Truth-podcasts&p=614081&viewfull=1#post614081, and this thread, so I decided to join, since there was at least one person over here who sees things the way I do.

PatColo is a respected member here, so you should find others here that have your views.
This forum is not without it's problems, or arguements...but it's about as free speech as you'll find on the net.

I hope you manage to stick around, provide your insights and views from a ladies point.

One of our lady members, the great Mrs. Zap, is here help you hold your ground in what has mostly become a sausage fest. :)
Ximmy, another female member, is temporarily banned at the moment. She's a feisty one that doesn't take shit off anyone. We wouldn't want her any other way.
ImaCannin is our gardner extrordinaire and mini-farmer.

[Glass]

not sure how you could confuse the video of a bus journey and the speaker as being the same person. I never once concluded that. It was clear to me that the voice was not taped while on that bus. The speaker is on the phone or something. It seems pretty clear to me. So the basis for the rebuke revolves predominately around the bus journey video.

Delphi for sure. Attempt to cast doubt on one aspect and then the rest is suspect. How does it work in court? Prove your adversary a liar on any one point and all of their "evidence" can be rejected. Seems to be the MO here.

[Olmstein]

PatColo is a respected member here, so you should find others here that have your views.


I have little respect for PatMecca. How does he have the time to spam up this place with his long winded posts full of links to every crackpot on the web? Does he have a day job? Or is posting this crap his day job?

By the way, Pat, what's your culture and heritage?

[Glass]

I have little respect for PatMecca. How does he have the time to spam up this place with his long winded posts full of links to every crackpot on the web? Does he have a day job? Or is posting this crap his day job?

By the way, Pat, what's your culture and heritage?

I'd say it is probably because you have not been participating.
Join Date Apr 2010
Location The Grand Canyon
State
Posts 1,204
Thanks 10
Perhaps you are a needed counter balance to the information PC posts here. Time to get to it don't you think?

[Tumbleweed]

Perhaps you are a needed counter balance to the information PC posts here. Time to get to it don't you think?

Good idea. Pat does a good job keeping track of what the Jews have been and still are up to. We need someone to keep and eye on the muslims and what they're up too.

[Olmstein]

Good idea. Pat does a good job keeping track of what the Jews have been and still are up to. We need someone to keep and eye on the muslims and what they're up too.

PatMecca does almost too good of a job keeping track of what the Jews are up to. It's pretty obvious that he's a Palestinian shill. Just keep that in mind when you read his posts.

[Jewboo]

It's pretty obvious that he's a Palestinian shill. Just keep that in mind when you read his posts.




http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-P_3-kfGoMII/T4XR443699I/AAAAAAAAnwo/xH_zSaGS2-Q/s1600/Formerly%2Bfrum%2BJew%2Bwith%2Bbacon%2BRL.jpg
"Olmstein" Just keep that in mind when you read his posts.


:rolleyes:

[Olmstein]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-P_3-kfGoMII/T4XR443699I/AAAAAAAAnwo/xH_zSaGS2-Q/s1600/Formerly%2Bfrum%2BJew%2Bwith%2Bbacon%2BRL.jpg
"Olmstein" Just keep that in mind when you read his posts.


:rolleyes:


I like the bacon, but not the dude holding it.

You know, book, you, PatMecca, and I have had this conversation about culture and heritage before. PatMecca refused to answer, IIRC, and you and I both copped to being WASPs.

[PatColo]

Hi EE!

Thanks for the welcome!

I found my way here by following PatColo's comments over at Grizzom and John Friend's blog. He posted links to "Abandoning Support for Ugly Truth Podcasts" http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?57478-The-Ugly-Truth-podcasts&p=614081&viewfull=1#post614081, and this thread, so I decided to join, since there was at least one person over here who sees things the way I do.

Thanks Amanda, & welcome. I posted this
can't open new GSUS accounts now? goes to DB Error page (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75478-can-t-open-new-GSUS-accounts-now-goes-to-DB-Error-page)when U advised you couldn't join. The admins didn't know; and we don't even know how long that DB error was the case. :( Been awhile since new members trickled in, though!

Ignore olmbergstein, he doesn't play well with others!
http://theuglytruth.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/redneck1.jpg


latest spingola attempt to...

The Spingola Zone at AFP 2/18/2014 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-spingola-zone-2182014.html)

http://www.insanemedia.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/sofia-smallstorm-unraveling-sandy-hook.jpg (http://www.insanemedia.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/sofia-smallstorm-unraveling-sandy-hook.jpg)
Unraveling Sofia Smallstorm's Video on Sandy Hook, Part 2 (http://www.spingola.com/Unraveling2.html)

Show-page (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americanfreepress/2014/02/18/the-spingola-zone)

American Free Press (https://americanfreepress.net/)


Download

(http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/5/958/show_5958559.mp3)

Posted by WHOOLI (http://www.blogger.com/profile/12745432266860223770) at 3:49 PM 6 comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=6903495060599466427)

[PatColo]

DS's part 3. I didn't list to p2 above, nor most of p1. With p1 I just skipped through to find where she takes callers, coz I read somewhere that there were some good (opposing) callers. About mid-way through the 2nd hour, she takes a call from Wolfgang, subject of Thread: School Safety Expert Threatened for Questioning Sandy Hook (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75789-School-Safety-Expert-Threatened-for-Questioning-Sandy-Hook) fame. I don't expect to listen to parts 2 or 3; only read comments.


Feb 20 2014 (http://spingolaspeaks.wordpress.com/2014/02/20/thursday-deanna-sandy-hook-3/)
Thursday, Deanna ~ Sandy Hook (3) (http://spingolaspeaks.wordpress.com/2014/02/20/thursday-deanna-sandy-hook-3/) Deanna talked about her ongoing research into the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting and her critique of the video presentation given by Sophia Smallstorm regarding what may or may not have happened in Newtown, Connecticut on December 14, 2012. (MP3 (https://copy.com/S8RUPzzqNpVjDyg2))

[Amanda]

Okay, I'm still new here and can't figure how to put what others said into a quote box to respond to, so I'm just going to be informal about it


@PatColo- thanks for the welcome, and I think I was actually unable to sign up here for several months--it was just luck that I spotted you in the chatbox at grizzom. Thanks for posting Deanna's critiques to Sofia's film. I haven't listened to any of the audios, but heard the callers to part 1 were pretty good, including a call from Kelly from Tulsa (the one who called Lt. Vance and asked him "who cleaned up the blood" at SH, to which he replied "what blood?"--LOL)

[PatColo]

^ Sounds like you read what I read, though I don't recall where I read it. I can't say I recall hearing a call from "Kelly in Tulsa"-- if you listen to the last ~1/2 of the show where she takes calls, could you post the minute-mark where Kelly calls? TIA!

The call from Wolfgang- sorry didn't note the minute mark, was VG. Obviously shook Deanna up. It was followed by a Deanna fanboy caller who only remarked how "rude" Wolfgang was, how dare he yada yada, when the polar opposite was conspicuously the case! It was the textbook old joo MO: FLIP THE SCRIPT AND PROJECT! (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?52269-quot-Among-The-Truthers-quot-Straus-the-Protocols-and-the-Chutzpah-Maneuver) Here's the 1st show she did,


The Spingola Zone at AFP 2/11/2013 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-spingola-zone-at-afp-2112013.html)



http://shoabloger.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/deanna-spingola.jpg (http://shoabloger.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/deanna-spingola.jpg)

Deanna's discussion will be:
Unraveling Sofia Smallstorm's Video on Sandy Hook, Part 1 (http://www.spingola.com/Unraveling1.html)

Show-page (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americanfreepress/2014/02/11/the-spingola-zone)

American Free Press (http://americanfreepress.net/)

Download (http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/5/930/show_5930367.mp3)


Posted by WHOOLI (http://www.blogger.com/profile/12745432266860223770) at 11:29 AM 9 comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=4740721958411970343)

[PatColo]

Deanna''s XXth show devoted to supporting .gov's official SHoax narrative:


Spingola Speaks 2014.02.20 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/02/spingola-speaks-20140220.html)

Deanna talked about her ongoing research into the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting and her critique of the video presentation given by Sophia Smallstorm regarding what may or may not have happened in Newtown, Connecticut on December 14, 2012.

News Page (http://mynewspage.wordpress.com/websites/deanna-spingola/)
Deanna's site (http://www.spingola.com/radio_schedule.html)
Official chat room (http://spingola.chatango.com/)
Spingola Speaks .Info (http://spingolaspeaks.info/)


Download (http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/kbkk6uksrz/Spingola.Speaks.Deanna.Spingola.2014.02.20.mp3)


Posted by Mami (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13298385482303078866) at 11:09 AM 4 comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=1484333661382763428)


I don't expect to listen ^; as my "patience" for this "debate" has worn thin :(. I'll give blogger "fauxcapitalist" the benefit of the doubt that this summary is accurate,



FauxCapitalist (http://fauxcapitalist.com/) said...Deanna was all substance in this show about SH.

She made an important critique of Sofia Smallstorm's presentation, and I have made some notes.

However, I still find Robbie Parker's reaction suspicious, and why is the girl on Obama's lap wearing the same dress as the allegedly dead child, Emilie Parker, with her hair parted in the same way, and what can we really know about Adam Lanza when he allegedly killed his own mother and destroyed his own computer, and they still posit no motive?

22m - Said Smallstorm used 12 of Fetzer's 14 points about SH in the jan 2013 vt article, said what a coincidence -- it's almost like they were working with each other
25m - Said Mike Powers, who appeared on joyce riley's show in january 2013, is a fraud
33m - Flattery to sell Smallstorm's documentary
said she fell for flattery of joining Scholars for 9/11 Truth, because who wouldn't want to be a scholar
35m - Called it a ploy for Fetzer to call the group Scholars for 9/11 Truth
37m - Misleading audio from Smallstorm's video
39m - Someone in video is Mark S. Mann -- marksman?
44m - Fake bus driver video when flowers are in full bloom saying he saw no crime scene footage?
46m - It's normal not to see crime footage
47m - She claims there's no christmas decorations when there were
49m - She said Sandy Hook never has been about 2nd amendment rights
1h13m - Looped video of the same people going in and out of the school, because of silver car moving around
- Questioned whether Smallstorm and Klein were so negligent or they thought the majority of truth seekers were too gullible -- said shame on them
1h15m - Claim that Christmas trees just happened to be there to mark deaths of children, firefighter said they had been doing that for 13 years -- she called it pathetic research

[PatColo]

I've been having an interesting, ongoing dialog with Spingola in the Mami's comments for the podcast above (reply 37).

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=1484333661382763428

I've been disappointed by a couple of the "joowey rhetorical manipulation gambits" she's employed, reminiscent of her attempt to label Sofia's "911 Mysteries" video as supporting zion.gov's Official 911 CT (see reply 21 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=689224&viewfull=1#post689224) above).

In her February 22, 2014 at 12:26 PM reply, she mischaracterized Prof. Tracy's current opinion of whether or not people died at SH, saying, "I do believe that people died at SH as does Dr. James Tracy, according to his blog. " -- which I deconstruct in later replies, and she kindly conceded her error. :)

Now in her latest February 23, 2014 at 6:19 PM reply, she actually preemptively smears SH Truth investigator Wolfgang Halbig (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75789-School-Safety-Expert-Threatened-for-Questioning-Sandy-Hook) as a (potential) lying joo, based on his police home visits story which she can't independently verify from behind her computer in the suburbs of Chicago, !??! :(



Deanna (http://www.blogger.com/profile/05963058800259904712) said...

I have searched for any indication that Halbig is a nationally-recognized school security expert. The only "proof" seems to come from him. In the 1990s, he was the director of security for Seminole County, Florida schools. The only reference I find relative to Columbine is what he has said. See: http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/keyword/halbig He was apparently a Florida State Trooper long before he became a volley ball coach. That was in 1988: Before that, he was the head girl’s soccer coach at Lake Brantley in 1987 and then added the task of girls volleyball.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1988-09-08/news/0060430293_1_halbig-head-volleyball-coach-power-volleyball
I am very dubious about his claims of the local police coming to his house. Jewish people do make such claims; they love being victims as it brings them so much attention. It certainly seems to have worked for him.


February 23, 2014 at 6:19 PM





Psst: Deanna,
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTWzVcuuDj9SIO4pYiB1NwpjyZqk13yR c3T0QtBUgdxhAsm1Kdr
Wolfgang looks sorta joowey, too!
>:D

[Olmstein]

Ignore olmbergstein, he doesn't play well with others!
http://theuglytruth.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/redneck1.jpg



Still afraid to answer the question Pat? It's very simple, "What's your culture and heritage?"

Mine is Scottish, English, and Dutch, Protestant.

Go bow down to your "prophet". Idiot

http://www.irreligion.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/95654111_3cd98d2eb6_o.jpg

[Norweger]

Good idea. Pat does a good job keeping track of what the Jews have been and still are up to. We need someone to keep and eye on the muslims and what they're up too.

And what are the Muslims up to besides getting blamed for 911 and having their home countries invaded?

The only "Anti-Muslim" nonsense is that from jews which claim that Obama is a muslim and similary outlandish claims like for instance how they are building a mosque at ground zero and how the Muslims are all powerful and able to do all this in spite of the clown in the white house being put there by Jews and 911 being done on behalf of international jewry.

[Jewboo]

Mine is Scottish, English, and Dutch, Protestant.




http://static.ylilauta.org/files/x0/thumb/1367586967830744-noanim.gif/jutq.jpg
" Olmstein "





:rolleyes: nice Scottish name you have there Olmstein...very clanish

[Cebu_4_2]

I was thinking the name was Amish, but who knows these days.

[Tumbleweed]

And what are the Muslims up to besides getting blamed for 911 and having their home countries invaded?



They've been pretty busy raping and murdering white women in Europe from what I've been reading.

[Amanda]

@PatColo-

Thanks for the update on Deanna's latest attacks on Wolfgang. It's actually quite shocking to hear that she is now basically accusing him of lying about his background and the harassment from law enforcement. I just did a quick google search and found this:

http://childrenssafetyinstitute.com/our-story/

It looks like Wolfgang is somehow affiliated with the Children's Safety Institute, and on their website, this is what they say about his background:

Wolfgang is a nationally recognized school safety and security professional who has done extensive work in researching and developing the “Standards for Safe Schools”. He is an expert witness in the field of school safety and security. He has testified before a Congressional Commission studying school safety and security. Wolfgang was the former Executive Director of the National Institute for School and Workplace Safety. Wolfgang was also appointed by the Florida Governor to serve on the State of Florida Safe Schools Commission.

Wolfgang is also the author of a book for educators and school bus drivers on aggressive behavior management and the use of reasonable force, as well as numerous magazine articles. His article on “Breaking the Code of Silence” was published in the March 2000 edition of the American School Board Journal. He has been a featured guest on many national news programs including Dateline NBC, Good Morning America, and MSNBC.

Wolfgang was the Director of Safety and Security for a large public school system in Florida and brings to the company a national reputation in school safety, education and law enforcement. He has experience with U.S. Customs and as a Florida State Trooper. After leaving law enforcement, he went into education as a teacher, administrative leader, and finally Director of Safety and Security. His 35 years of work experience is a major asset to any involvement with safety and security.

[PatColo]

THX Amanda, good find! :) I just posted another comment there responding to an attack on me by a Deanna fanboy (see: @ 9:59 AM (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=1484333661382763428))-- maybe U could post the above bit to that comment thread instead of me? It's your find after all! :)

BTW, I've been posting @ Tracy's blog too, pointing to the Mami's comment thread, and to here,

http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/02/22/james-tracy-on-american-free-press/comment-page-1/#comment-62056

http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/02/19/wolfgang-halbigs-quest-for-truth/comment-page-2/#comment-62156

I was glad he published that 2nd one. The first one published instantly upon my submitting, but the 2nd went into an "awaiting moderation" queue; and my best guess is the 2nd one contains the word 'Jew' which triggered some sort of automatic extra-scrutiny? lol.

http://www.google.com/explanation

[Amanda]

I just did a quick search for Wolfgang's article “Breaking the Code of Silence,” which was published in the March 2000 edition of the American School Board Journal. The article doesn't really have a link I can post, but anyone can find it by doing a quick search. Here's just a bit of it:



Breaking the Code of Silence

A school security expert says student silence is our worst enemy

BY WOLFGANG W. HALBIG

Could have ... should have ... would have. These oft-used laments tragically describe the sentiments of teenagers in Pearl, Miss.; Paducah, Ky.; Jonesboro, Ark.; and Littleton, Colo. In all these places, young people heard the murderous intentions of fellow students but chose not to tell adults. The consequences of their silence were immeasurable.

Our schools and communities must do everything they can to break this adolescent code of silence. We need to make it easier, and more acceptable, for students to report threats they've heard other kids make. Had students in Mississippi, Kentucky, Arkansas, and Colorado acted on the information they had, lives might well have been saved.

That a code of silence exists should come as no surprise to parents, school administrators, school board members, legislators, or law enforcement officials. I have been an assistant principal, a teacher and coach, a state police officer, and a director of school district security. In all these roles, I saw how and why a code of silence is so deeply ingrained in youth culture. Historically, students have been loath to "tattle," "rat," or "narc" on their peers -- especially in secondary grades when social acceptance often overrides the urge to do the right thing. Added to that reluctance is a fear of violent retribution for turning someone in that is probably more real today than ever before.

Anyone who does not see the potential for violent trouble in our schools is living in a fantasyland. Demographic changes in the nation's youth population are going to put a much heavier burden on educators to keep their schools safe. By 2005, there will be 23 percent more teenagers in the violence-prone group (14 to 17 year old males) than there are now.

Charles W. Colson, a Nixon administration attorney who did prison time for his role in the Watergate scandal, is now a lay minister who counsels convicted criminals. In a 1997 article in the Wall Street Journal, Colson describes the new teenage criminal as "cold, remorseless, conscienceless." Law enforcement officials are quick to concur with Colson's depiction, often referencing the callousness of violent acts committed by teenagers who appear desensitized to the value of life itself.
In the Journal article, Colson warns that the demographic tide will bring with it a new criminal class: "The recent dramatic drop in the crime rate has politicians making political hay. They'd better be quick about it. We are merely enjoying a brief lull -- due mainly to the aging of the baby boomers -- before the arrival of the mother of all crime waves."

Enlisting the students

School administrators and board members must determine what they can do to provide the good kids -- the millions of young people who regularly exhibit appropriate and responsible behavior in school -- with effective means to protect themselves from indiscriminate acts of violence.

Many school districts, in response to an escalating number of threats made by students against peers and teachers, have started character education programs, emphasizing values such as responsibility, courage, and caring. If these programs do not also emphasize the importance of breaking the code of silence, however, they are missing a golden opportunity to make our schools safer.

The reality is that you can put as many metal detectors in your schools as you want, but until you have most students working on your behalf, you have a false sense of security. Consider this: The U.S. Department of Education reported that more than 6,000 handguns were confiscated from students on school grounds during the 1996-97 school year and in 92 percent of the cases, the guns were taken because students alerted school officials.

Reproduced with permission from the March 2000 issue of American School Board Journal. Copyright © 2000, National School Boards Association. American School Board Journal is an editorially independent publication of the National School Boards Association. Opinions expressed by this magazine or any of its authors do not necessarily reflect positions of the National School Boards Association. This article may be printed out and photocopied for individual or educational use, provided this copyright notice appears on each copy. This article may not be otherwise transmitted or reproduced in print or electronic form without the consent of the Publisher. For more information, call (703) 838-6739.

[Amanda]

@PatColo- FYI- I've actually sworn off visiting grizzom (I just can no longer tolerate having to deal with those TUT cult followers, and Deanna "fanboys" as you call them, attacking the rest of us on SH), but since you are doing such a great job over there, I decided to join in and just posted my findings.


Also, if the Deanna "fanboy" you are referring to is "George Jones," fwiw, I have the feeling that character is actually "Rockclimber," who used to be an admin over there. After leaving the admin post and as this whole SH debate stuff got going, he started posting in the comments under two handles, "Expose supremacism" and "consti2tionalist," and was subsequently banned (I think for personal attacks or something along those lines). Then this newly created "George Jones" handle arrived on the scene, and basically started posting comments along those same lines. Also, as much as he seems like a Deanna "fanboy," he's also a TUT cult follower. Back when SH first occurred, he stayed relatively neutral b/c he admitted that he hadn't looked into anything. But after MG's inflammatory post, accusing JF and JF of not believing in MCP's "massive heart attack" this Rockclimber guy clearly lost it and left a nasty comment over there directed at those of us who see SH has a HOAX. Anyway, just wanted to give you some background and to let you know that sometimes over there on the SH threads we are dealing with the same individual under multiple handles.

[Jewboo]

Consider this: The U.S. Department of Education reported that more than 6,000 handguns were confiscated from students on school grounds during the 1996-97 school year and in 92 percent of the cases, the guns were taken because students alerted school officials.



Wow. MSM never mentions this. Probably because it ain't White kids doing it.

[Norweger]

They've been pretty busy raping and murdering white women in Europe from what I've been reading.

Reading jewish blogs like gatesofvienna i take it.

[Tumbleweed]

Reading jewish blogs like gatesofvienna i take it.

Here's one of many articles I've read lately.

http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/10/13/muslims-raped-over-300-swedish-children-and-700-women-in-seven-months-of-2013/


Muslims raped over 300 Swedish children and 700 women in first 7 months of 2013

Posted on October 13, 2013 (http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/10/13/muslims-raped-over-300-swedish-children-and-700-women-in-seven-months-of-2013/) by ADMIN (http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/author/administration01/)158 Comments (http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/10/13/muslims-raped-over-300-swedish-children-and-700-women-in-seven-months-of-2013/#comments)








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http://www.gais.se/Fotboll/gais.nsf/0/62E513CA2A8302DEC1257862006C3FD4/$file/CeciliaMalmstrom1.jpg

Cecilia Malmström, the unkept ragged European Commissioner for Home Affairs, do not care about the rapidly rising rape crimes against children in her own country. Malmström is the one who grants Muslim immigrants entry into Europe. She has promised more Muslim terrorists and misogynists cloaked as asylum seekers to be admitted into Europe. That will give their hatred of all things non-Islamic even more freedom so they can commit more crimes, rapes and murders in her already saturated home country. Malmström is eager to let women and children be raped and abused in Sweden so she can appear politically correct and pretend to be a humanitarian. Forget about the shocking fact that Sweden today house the second largest volume of rape crimes in the world after Nigeria, all due to Muslim immigrants.

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In the first seven months of 2013, over 1,000 Swedish women reported being raped by Muslim immigrants in the capital city of Stockholm. Over 300 of those were under the age of 15. The number of rapes is up 16% so far this year compared to 2012 numbers. A large proportion of the increase include rape of young [pre-teen] girls.
The official radio report quoted from BRÅ (The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention) refuses to mention the M-word in the socialist-suffocated Sweden, a country held hostage by the extreme left. But when you contact senior police and government sources they confirm (anonymous in fear of losing their jobs) that these numbers represent Muslims. And a majority of these rapes and sexual assaults are caused by Malmström’s new arrivals, the asylum seekers.

And these numbers are only the tip of the ice berg. According to the authorities, Sweden’s real rape statistics are 400-900% higher than official numbers. The BRÅ website states:
“As few as 10-20 percent of all sexual offences are reported to the police. The Swedish Crime Survey (Nationella trygghetsundersökningen, NTU) provides a better picture of the extent of criminality, with data on both victims as well as perpetrators — which is lacking in the criminal statistics. Of those who are suspected for sexual offences, the majority are men and only about two percent are women. A majority of the victims are women. In a third of reported rapes, the victim is younger than 15.”
In spite of these horrid numbers and Sweden’s rapid increase in rape statistics, EU Commissions nutter and Swede Cecilia Malmström wants even more Muslims to arrive to her country, and to have access to the rest of Europe
Cecilia Malmström is the European Commissioner for Home Affairs. She used to be a politician for the Liberal Party in Sweden, but moved on to the EU level when she was elected to the European Parliament in 1999, and was later elevated further to serve on the European Commission.
Part of Ms. Malmström’s job is to oversee immigration policy (http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/12/686&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en) for the European Union. Like most functionaries in the upper reaches of the EU bureaucracy, she favors the cultural enrichment of Europe through mass Third-World immigration. She and other unelected Eurocrats in Brussels decide how much and what kind of immigration is best for the EU, and then impose their diktats on the member states.
Read [B]Geert Wilder’s letter to this truly insane libtard uber-socialist Cecilia Malmström (http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.be/2012/07/geert-wilders-open-letter-to-cecilia.html)who clearly doesn’t care at all of the safety of women and children in her own country. It’s free game for Muslim men to assault women in Sweden and punishments are lenient. In fact, instead of punishing them as they should, Malmström brings in more rapists in the thousands each year.
Before venturing to the libtard headquarters of Brussels Cecilia Malmström was a left-wing liberal in Sweden. Incidentally the left-wingers have always been the terrorists of Europe before Islam began terrorising everyone. Left-wingers were regularly investigated by security services pre 1990 for violence and inciting violence and stirring up problems that undermined peace and order for others. No wonder they fit so well with Muslims.
http://themuslimissue.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/sexbrott_75_11.jpg?w=528&h=393

Sexual assault: A previous article showed a chart on sexual crimes from The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (BRÅ), a government body for crime statistics. Watch the increase of rapes in Sweden after the country became more lenient on ME immigrants, asylum seekers and third world (mainly Muslim) immigrants. The overwhelming chunk of immigrants to Sweden are Muslims who also use about 80% of the entire welfare budget in region to region. The fact that numbers are increasing year after year without control shows that Sweden does not care about its crime victims and does not punish perpetrators sufficiently.

[Norweger]

It's the same rubbish really.

Kafir and proud t-shirts und so weiter. Totally jewish. Refrences to 911 and how it was done by scary muslims etc.

Yes, there are a lot of rapes in Scandinavia, but who let these people in? And why are the muslims solely to blame for the rapes? What about other immigrants? Are they without guilt?

Blogs like that which pull claims out their rear end exist solely because its beneficial for the survival of the jewish state.

The root cause: International Jewry and the protocols of the learned elders of zion.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ

[Jewboo]

Yes, there are a lot of rapes in Scandinavia, but who let these people in?



Tumbleweed correctly reported that the rapists are Muslims and you should, at least, concede him that important point.

We already know that jews created the open-border immigration nightmare to destroy Whitey. It's working.


:rolleyes:

[PatColo]

I'm about to listen, !!! :D See Mami's commenters @ link,


Spingola Speaks 2014.03.03-4 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/spingola-speaks-20140303-4.html)Tuesday, 3/4: Wolfgang Halbig talks about Sandy Hook; Official Reports (http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/); Timeline (http://www.sandyhookresearch.com/); Notes (http://www.spingola.com/halbignotes.html); Active Shooter How to Respond (http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/active_shooter_booklet.pdf); 11399 (http://www.spingola.com/00011399.pdf)

News Page (http://mynewspage.wordpress.com/websites/deanna-spingola/)
Deanna's site (http://www.spingola.com/radio_schedule.html)
Official chat room (http://spingola.chatango.com/)
Spingola Speaks .Info (http://spingolaspeaks.info/)

Tuesday, 3/4 Download (http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/tilrlvs73q/Spingola_Speaks_2014.03.04_WolfHalbig.mp3)

[PatColo]

Spingola Speaks 2014.03.03-4 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/spingola-speaks-20140303-4.html)

Tuesday, 3/4: Wolfgang Halbig talks about Sandy Hook; Official Reports (http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/); Timeline (http://www.sandyhookresearch.com/); Notes (http://www.spingola.com/halbignotes.html); Active Shooter How to Respond (http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/active_shooter_booklet.pdf); 11399 (http://www.spingola.com/00011399.pdf)

I've listened to this ^ now, and it was quite a shocking indictment, a tragic discrediting, a complete embarrassment, for… Spingola! OMG! :o

She spends ~1/2 the show, and the first ~1/3 exclusively, seeking to ad-hom/discredit Halbig based on his resume/bonafides. Nothing SHoax-anamoly related was raised until after that first ~25 mins... and this travesty of an 'interview' was directed by a self-posturing 'SH truth seeker' (Spingola)!

In this tedious ad-hom attempt process, Spingola successfully REVEALED that Halbig's trust set up for donations for eventually bringing to trial some of the SHoax principals, gives a mailing address which includes a 'Suite #', when in reality... it's a rented mailbox, GASP! :o So Halbig's trust is promoted mostly on the web, and he doesn't waste $$ on a needless office space (Halbig did manage to say this); however Spingola sought to score points by getting Halbig to 'admit' that his trust's mailing address says "suite #" instead of "box #" -- weak sauce, Deanna! :(

Spingola also 'established' that Halbig, while being Polish-Catholic (not joosh!), is a holohoax believer and a supporter of israel. While this ad-hom surely resonated with the likes of her regular audience and GSUS members; in reality, it just shows Halbig to be joozmedia-brainwashed like most Americans... a blue piller, a sheeple... at least as far as matters WW2 & zionism are concerned. It shows him to be successfully deceived; but it doesn't impeach his honesty or show him to be a deceiver. Another waste of precious, finite show-time which could & should have been spent focused on SHoax anomalies, spent instead on unrelated ad-homs. :(

Spingola shamefully tells a whopper, in-listeners'-faces' LIE at 8:20, where she claims NOT to be seeking to 'discredit' Halbig... which is exactly what she conspicuously sought to do throughout the show! Insult your listeners' intelligence much, Deanna? :(

Spingola's interruptions as Halbig was trying to answer questions or raise issues, was off the charts throughout. This was epitomized at 48:30, where Halbig began to try to respond to her long rant immediately prior; and she interrupts him to say, "We are going to a break" (48:40), then she resumes talking, repeating things she already said, until 49:10 when the break-music actually began and she finally quieted for the break. :(

Another telling moment began at 1:06:30, when Spingola interrupted Halbig for the XXXth time in the show, and began to give her spiel again. Halbig could be heard sighing an exasperated "oh my God" under his breath. Spingola stopped her spiel and, in a classic joowey 'Flip the Script and Project' maneuver, she scolded Halbig, exclaiming, "Don't, don't, don't treat me like that! Don't ridicule me! I'm not going to put up with that!"; then she resumed her spiel. This scolding was in the wake of this entire preceding show where she interrupted and was disrespectful to Halbig, trying to play "GOTCHA!" over irrelevant matters, and never scoring any relevant hits. Spingola's self-righteous play there, and her incessant interruptions throughout, reminded me of when I was a boy and I'd impatiently interrupt my father. He'd repeat sharply over my voice, "Excuse me for speaking while you're interrupting!" LOL :cool:

At the end of this travesty of an "interview", Spingola apologized, for.... not taking any of the callers who were queued up. :rolleyes: Probably a good decision, as I don't expect any callers would have been pleased with her 'performance' with Halbig... and would have told her so.

And as for her 'response' to the 5 or so of Halbig's SHoax-anamoly questions which there was any time left over from her fruitless ad-hom'ing efforts to address; Spingola's "proofs" seemingly all lied in... the official SHoax reports! 'Did you read the reports?! Did you read ch 6 subsection 352?!? All you have to do is read the reports!!' Similar to what I said in the OP (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=685602&viewfull=1#post685602), and in reply 18 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=687628&viewfull=1#post687628), as it is with 911, the perps have provided all the "evidence" she cites! 911 Whitewash Commish Report, anyone?



http://i.imgur.com/XLTJQbd.jpg



Is Deanna going to also change her current holohoax-truth views, in light of the findings & testimonies of the Nuremberg Show Trials?

[PatColo]

Deanna's commented @ Mami's (see: March 6, 2014 at 7:42 AM (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=2509190206013096376)):


Deanna (http://www.blogger.com/profile/05963058800259904712) said...Thanks Colin for sharing your views on SH. I anticipated such a response from some people. Admittedly, I adopted a different style in my interview with Halbig. Absolutely no one who has interviewed him has challenged any of his statements or claims. I did not plan on letting him monopolize the conversation and repeat everything that he had already said in previous shows. He knew what he was getting into when he accepted my invitation. He said that he hoped that I would not beat him up when I extended the invitation by phone. So he knew exactly what he was getting into. He apparently had listened to and had reviewed my previous programs on SH. He knew my views and I imagine that he anticipated receiving massive support for his views after my program. In as much as he had made many claims on other programs, I had an obligation and a right to address those things. I asked him some very direct questions, many of which he avoided answering or else he changed the subject.


March 6, 2014 at 7:42 AM



I subsequently commented,


Pat Colo said...Deanna, re your remark:

" I asked him some very direct questions, many of which he avoided answering or else he changed the subject. "

could you please provide some examples of the "many" instances in this show, where in response to a direct question, Wolf "avoided answering or else he changed the subject", ideally with minute-marks? This so I can re-listen to the exchange, and see whether or not I agree?

Coz based on the show I heard, it sounds like this claim may be another case of...
http://tinyurl.com/opf5sjo


March 6, 2014 at 12:38 PM

[PatColo]

Deanna seems to have gone AWOL from the Mami's discussion, leaving my @12:38 PM question above unanswered. She's apparently content just to toss her vacuous & conspicuously false,



"I asked him some very direct questions, many of which he avoided answering or else he changed the subject"



claim out there, and just walk away from answering for it, further denigrating her guest Wolfgang & her listeners alike, as though her Mar 4 performance wasn't disgraceful enough already. SHAME ON HER! :(

these from yesterday, the first from her is just schitzoid, but I tried to respond,



Deanna (http://www.blogger.com/profile/05963058800259904712) said...

I and another person associated with the AFP, where MCP worked for 33 years, were going to Newtown to conduct an investigation. Officials in Newtown would probably not even talk with us now, given what has transpired in the last month. It might be a deliberate operation. It would seem that Halbig is now the victim after my interview with him. Perhaps that is the reason he accepted my invitation to be on the program. He knew I would ask hard questions. If the Lake County Sheriff's Office and previously the two homicide detectives really meant to silence Halbig, he would probably be in jail right now. When the local officials wanted to silence Werner Bock, they did not warn him three times, they locked him up as they have hundreds of others. Halbig is effectively playing the victim card which is winning him support for his theories. In the beginning of my program, he accused me of trying to discredit him and I said that people tend to discredit themselves. Now, it seems that the whole focus surrounding Sandy Hook is on poor Wolfgang Halbig and not on the 26 individuals now moldering in their graves and the parents who may never recover from the grief of losing their children. Certainly those who claim that no children died have a questionable agenda. The focus is now off of the pharmaceutical industry and their objectives to have every human being on the planet on some kind of anti-psychotic drug. General practitioners have prescribed anti-psychotic drugs to 280,000 infants under the age of 12 months. Their parents are obviously very unwise and/or brainwashed. I think we need to evaluate the big picture and recognize the real or potential victims.


March 6, 2014 at 1:04 PM



my response,


Pat Colo said...

Deanna, re your March 6, 2014 at 1:04 PM comment above:

1. your 'possibly spoiled Newton investigation trip with me & (unidentified) AFP person' thing is ridiculous & brazenly divisive. Your point?

2. Re: "It would seem that Halbig is now the victim after my interview with him"; you were also suggesting on Jan 23, 9 days *before* this interview, that Halbig was seeking to garner 'victimhood' status, and further, that he's joosh. Ref: your February 23, 2014 at 6:19 PM comment at:
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=1484333661382763428

3. UNlike Werner Bock, Halbig is a former cop & customs inspector, and thus in that 'law enforcement fraternity' for life. Also UNlike Bock, Halbig doesn't have a huge piece of land which the state covets.

4. Re "...he accused me of trying to discredit him..."; that's because you plainly *WERE* trying to discredit him, same as in item 2 above; and your denial of this FACT @ 8:20 in the show, insulted your listeners' and guest's intelligence alike.

5. Certainly those who claim to believe zion.gov's official SHoax story, "...have a questionable agenda." And before you DENY, again, supporting .gov's story; I'll remind you again of your statement of 'beliefs' recited in your Jan 15 show, transcribed in post #1 here:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story

6. Big-Pharma's demonic psych drugs agenda is important in general, and you actually have some common ground with Sofia here, as she speculated around a year ago that there may be a "mandatory mental health screening" agenda in play wrt SHoax-- a big pay day for Big Pharma indeed. But this agenda would be the case whether SH was real or hoaxed; so it's a distraction as far as SHoax-Truth is concerned.

Speaking of Sofia, and her declining to go on your show because "...she felt it would be a hostile environment" (ref: your February 22, 2014 at 4:26 PM comment at the same link as in item 2 above); it seems her instinct was correct there, if this Halbig "interview" was any indication!

7. I'd still love a reply to my @12:38 PM question above, TIA! :)


March 6, 2014 at 5:17 PM




There's a couple of pro-gov-SHoax-story trolls in the thread (George, Aleksa), posting joowey "Flip the Script and Project" spam, which I've decided isn't worth any time responding to for now. :)

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=2509190206013096376

[JDRock]

gaaawwd, ive missed all this drama...

[Amanda]

@PatColo--I applaud your efforts over there!! Thank so much for your excellent comments--I completely agree with everything you said:) (I just don't have the gift of quite, sharp replies that you do;) Her treatment of Wolfgang was shameful and disgraceful. I've actually stopped listening to her since she came out and started promoting the JEWISH media version of Sandy Hook--and crying on her show and encouraging her listeners to think about the suffering parents and their dead children was too much for me to tolerate. Also, fyi, over at grizzom, anytime something on the Sandy Hook Hoax gets posted over there, I'm starting to leave a link to our SH thread here--I get the sense that despite the attacks from trolls over there, there are many who are still interested in seriously looking into this, but just don't have a place to go (this was the case for me, until I was finally able to register here--I actually might have been trying since you first posted that "Abandoning support for TUT thread")

[PatColo]

Thanks Amanda. And Spingola's at it with the joowey emotional manipulation noise again in that last one from her I just pasted above, "...26 individuals now moldering in their graves and the parents who may never recover from the grief of losing their children."
:{y

If you feel like puking in your mouth a little bit :D, contrast Spingola's debasing herself in her Halbig interview, with her Mon Mar 3 "poetry with dreeeeamy Michael Walsh" show; where she's just a giddy schoolgirl with a crush. I gave it about 5 mins skipping ahead to see if it got better later, maybe with callers, then gave up on it!
Spingola Speaks 2014.03.03-4 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/spingola-speaks-20140303-4.html)

The more I think about her Halbig show, and her divisiveness overall wrt her disingenuous promoting of zion.gov's SHoax story, the madder I get! I wasn't sure b4 if she was sincere or what, but her Halbig performance just ripped the mask off her in the worst way. Her whole "yada yada now you're denigrating police officers yada yada SHAME ON YOU!" drama-queen scene was just so over the top; so fake & contrived, so manipulative! :(

[Amanda]

@PatColo-Yeah, I noticed that jewish emotional manipulation tactic again--no surprise there, that's the same thing she did on one of her shows. And I'll have to pass on listening to her with Michael Walsh--those shows were always nauseating, with her giggling and falling all over herself. I really just stopped listening to her after Sandy Hook--it was really quite a shocker, and I'm still trying to make sense of it. I'm pretty sure she used to see this as a hoax, b/c she had Dr. K on last year, and he talked about the hoaxing at the Boston Marathon bombing and Sandy Hook, and she never indicated any disagreement with him. And I'm fairly certain that in the show she did w/Dave McGowan on the Boston Bombing, she asked him if he had a chance to look into Sandy Hook, and she seemed to be suggesting to him that there was hoaxing there as well. So, again, I'm not sure what happened, other than that she read MCP's book back in November and then she seemed to flip. And her personality also seemed to flip then, b/c I was in her chatroom when she had MCP on to talk about the JFK assassination, and I was making positive comments about MCP's work, except I said something about how he "didn't get the hoax element." Well, much to my surprise, Deanna got quite rude and obnoxious toward me in the chatroom, and literally told me that I should refrain from my opinion until I read his book!?!?! I was kind of shocked by that, and that was the last time I was in her chat. And then, when she came out in full support of the JEWISH fairy tale of Sandy Hook, well that was the final straw for me. I'm still kind of shocked by all of it. I was actually not at all surprised by the stance of MG, MCP or the rest of the TUT crowd--I had actually stopped listening to them long before Sandy Hook b/c I was highly suspicious of the fact that they repeatedly supported the official story around all of these highly suspicious shootings (Batman/Aurora, Gabby Giffords/Judge Roll, Sikh Temple, Norway/Brevik,e tc).

[PatColo]

^ it was last spring or summer IIRC she had C.Richardson on, and CR said some remarks about S.Hoax & Boston Hoax; he being on the 'hoax' side, and Deanna seemed to agree, or at least not 'disagree'. It'd be a needle in a haystack to find though, given how much she's had CR on.

I was curious about your McGowan ref, so found the show and will give a (re?)-listen,
Friday, 6/7: David McGowan, Special Report on the Boston Marathon: The Curious Case of the Man Who Could Only Sit Down (MP3 (https://copy.com/ATO9kJDUtn3jW0JO))

I wonder if she has a big self righteous "SHAME ON YOU!" for Bishop Richard Williamson?

http://youtu.be/_dHU7V0MF4s

http://youtu.be/_dHU7V0MF4s

My main beef with TUT prior to their rolling out their obnoxious anti-SHoax-skepticism campaign in Jan '13, was their propping up the myth that USA's so-called "elections" have any integrity whatsoever. MG & MCP would do whole shows together belaboring who they were going to "vote" for, and their super-clever strategic reasons for doing so; meanwhile "steering" listeners to preoccupy themselves with this fake political debate & enshrining the myth that "their vote COUNTS!" lol. :D But yes, come to think of it, TUT does have a pattern of taking the official narrative side of many FF's, x-911. I guess this got past me coz I didn't really get into it before S.Hoax.

Actually I guess by Jan '11 I was skeptical of the Loughner/AZ shooting... viewing Loughner as a mind-control victim, similar to MCP's limited-hangout stance on Lanza/SHoax. You have any opinion of this Zamudio guy, Amanda? Might he have (almost?) been a 'spoiler' to a perfectly well planned FF/PsyOp?
Thread: Interviews with Joe Zamudio, Arizona masacre CCW hero (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?42749-Interviews-with-Joe-Zamudio-Arizona-masacre-CCW-hero) (put any reply in that thread so not to derail this one plz :))

[PatColo]

The 3/4 Spingola so-called "interview" show with Halbig comments @ Mamis (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=2509190206013096376) have gone pretty much silent now, at 40 comments. So I moved up a couple of my unanswered questions for Spingola, to the latest Halbig interview thread comments (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=2936394322765463379).

Using quote boxes italicizes everything, so I'll just use indents to paste these:
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Deanna (http://www.blogger.com/profile/05963058800259904712) said...

According to the introduction at the beginning of the program, this interview took place on February 18, a week after Gahary's initial interview with Halbig on February 11.
March 7, 2014 at 11:57 AM






Pat Colo said...

Deanna @ 11:57: I don't know what to make of the date-of-interview question; as this AFP page dated 3/5 gives the impression that's when it took place;
http://americanfreepress.net/?p=15894#sthash.OL9AGddh.dpuf
but Gahary's date-related words at the opening are pretty clear. Maybe your employer AFP put up the page inferring the interview took place 3/5 coz Wolf's a hot item atm, and they knew the ad-rich page would catch lots of new eyeballs?

Separately, I'd appreciate if you could respond to a couple of questions I've asked you in previous SHoax discussions @ Mami's, which you didn't respond to in their respective threads (or anywhere AFAIK).

Most recent was re your Mar 4 Halbig "interview" show comments:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=2509190206013096376
where @7:42 AM you stated in part,

" I asked him some very direct questions, many of which he avoided answering or else he changed the subject. "

in response I asked you,

"[...] could you please provide some examples of the "many" instances in this show, where in response to a direct question, Wolf "avoided answering or else he changed the subject", ideally with minute-marks? This so I can re-listen to the exchange, and see whether or not I agree? Coz based on the show I heard, it sounds like this claim may be another case of...
http://tinyurl.com/opf5sjo

Second question I asked here @11:07 PM, and never got an answer:
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=1484333661382763428

"[...] those following this saga know Deanna has repeatedly declared to the effect of, 'I never said I support the government's Sandy Hook Story!'. I distinctly recall her writing this in a Mamis comment, though finding WHICH SHOW would require more time than I have atm.

So this seeming "supporting of both sides" beckons the question, on which "S.Hoax anomalies" issues are you in support of S.Hoax skeptics? Which specific aspects of zion.gov's official S.Hoax narrative do you disbelieve (ref: 'I never said I support the government's Sandy Hook Story!')? Where do you and the S.Hoax skeptics share common ground?
March 8, 2014 at 12:16 AM

[PatColo]

I was curious about your McGowan ref, so found the show and will give a (re?)-listen,
Friday, 6/7: David McGowan, Special Report on the Boston Marathon: The Curious Case of the Man Who Could Only Sit Down (MP3 (https://copy.com/ATO9kJDUtn3jW0JO))


Listening to this McGowan interview, I became curious who "Dr. K" was; apparently this is him from a show just 1 week after the Boston Hoax. I know I listened at the time, but will re-listen in light of post 1/15/14 (Spingola's "coming out" on SHoax show in the OP) 'developments', :)

Monday, 4/22: Dr. Kaasem Khaleel talks about Sandy Hook and the Boston Marathon (MP3 (https://copy.com/njjbmUI1tvOVgWrs))

[Amanda]

@PatColo- In the McGowan interview, I'm fairly certain it came up toward the end, and I think McGowan said he was working on another project at that time, wasn't paying attention, but now wouldn't write off the idea of it being a hoax, given what he had seen w/Boston. Also, on MCP/MG, yup, that was another problem--acting like voting and elections are real in this country. And when people called into MCP, saying that the elections were getting stolen, MCP acted like he had never heard of such a thing before?!?! (Could he really be that naïve?) Plus, he also repeatedly told listeners there's nothing to worry about w/regard to the UN--So apparently, he hasn't heard of Agenda 21. So, all those things put together, made me turn them off--just too suspicious for me, especially the repeated promotion of the official story around these mass shooting events. MG only questions an event if a Muslim is accused. I'll give those Zamudio interviews a listen later. Also, on the idea of DS flipping on SH after reading MCP's book, it's still kind of hard to believe that that's all it would take b/c from what JF and JF said in the non-debate show (when MCP no-showed b/c of health problems with his LEG- and not with his heart as MG insinuated in his inflammatory post), there wasn't much of a compelling argument in MCP's book. All he did was mention the Cass Sunstein info (what's new about that? there's always been infiltration), and then MCP mentioned that Devvy Kidd says SH hoax theories are "crazy"--but since when is Devvy some sort of expert on psyops and false flags? What she says has nothing to do with the facts and evidence.

[PatColo]

The 3/4 Spingola so-called "interview" show with Halbig comments @ Mamis (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=2509190206013096376) have gone pretty much silent now, at 40 comments. So I moved up a couple of my unanswered questions for Spingola, to the latest Halbig interview thread comments (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=2936394322765463379).
[...]

4 new comments @ first link above, making 44 now. I'm on board with the last 2 (atm), from "larry" and "the veteran".

latest comments from Deanna, posted at that 2nd link above. I haven't dug into the links she's given yet, just reposting here for now... I just know I need to brace myself for a negative mood change, b4 opening her links! :(
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Deanna (http://www.blogger.com/profile/05963058800259904712) said...

I am not employed by AFP and do not receive any wages for my AFP radio program. I have uploaded a couple of pages that may address some issues that people have questions about: from my Tuesday program with Halbig: http://www.spingola.com/halbignotes.html and a page that I will be referring to tomorrow that I am still working on: http://www.spingola.com/CensorshipOperation.html On my schedule page for tomorrow's date, I have a little test that I invite people to take: http://www.spingola.com/March2014.html
March 8, 2014 at 7:28 PM


https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif Deanna (http://www.blogger.com/profile/05963058800259904712) said...

Be sure to read the comments by Poseidon on the Halbig Notes page http://www.spingola.com/halbignotes.html regarding some of the referrals that rodin mentioned.
March 8, 2014 at 7:32 PM

[Amanda]

Ugh...This is so exhausting!! But real quickly, it's interesting that she mentioned this "Poseidon" character--I'm actually a bit familiar with him and think he's responsible for the smear article "Fetzer and Friends" (basically an attack piece on those of us who see Sandy Hook as a HOAX). The article first surfaced (I believe) at around the time of the debates and was linked to by George Jones (aka, Consti2tionalist, ExposeSupremacism, Rockclimber). So, I encountered this "Poseidon" character in the comments section here: http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2014/02/16/wolfgang-halbig-and-the-sandy-hook-hoax/ OMG, I haven't been there in days and it looks like it's still going on!!! Ugh, this stuff never stops. Now eve JFetz has joined in. Oh, no, well now they've moved onto arguing about 911. Well, for what it's worth, last time I was there, maybe around 3/2, people were outing "Poseidon" as a troll--they were onto this smear tactics, as well as the amount of time he had to be posting so much.

And for what it's worth, the smear articles are linked to here: http://www.takeourworldback.com/
On that page you see the articles below. What's kind of interesting to me is that the words sound like the stuff we were hearing from MG and MCP. Also this person seems to have a definite problem with the hoaxes (they actually try to defend that utter absurdity that happened at Woolwich, which I posted on in the Hollywoodization of Terror thread). And fwiw, a friend of mine read one of these smear articles and thought it sounded like it may have been written by MCP

Latest: Top Ten Reasons: Jim Fetzer and Friends are Sunstein Shills Fetzer is the ringleader of the disinformation agents who present as lunatics, and by a process of elimination, it can be seen that Fetzer is a principal player in Cass Sunstein's cognitive infiltration operations.

The End of Sandy Hook Conspiracy Theories Judas Goats posing as "researchers" in the truth movement attempt to discredit research into real conspiracies by posting unadulterated nonsense about non-existent conspiracies.

[Jewboo]

Amanda & PatColo (http://www.johnnydepp-zone.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=50509)



http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/images/smilies/popcorn.gif THIS THREAD IS FASCINATING!

[PatColo]

@PatColo- In the McGowan interview, I'm fairly certain it came up toward the end, and I think McGowan said he was working on another project at that time, wasn't paying attention, but now wouldn't write off the idea of it being a hoax, given what he had seen w/Boston. Also, on MCP/MG, yup, that was another problem--acting like voting and elections are real in this country. And when people called into MCP, saying that the elections were getting stolen, MCP acted like he had never heard of such a thing before?!?! (Could he really be that naïve?) Plus, he also repeatedly told listeners there's nothing to worry about w/regard to the UN--So apparently, he hasn't heard of Agenda 21. So, all those things put together, made me turn them off--just too suspicious for me, especially the repeated promotion of the official story around these mass shooting events. MG only questions an event if a Muslim is accused. I'll give those Zamudio interviews a listen later. Also, on the idea of DS flipping on SH after reading MCP's book, it's still kind of hard to believe that that's all it would take b/c from what JF and JF said in the non-debate show (when MCP no-showed b/c of health problems with his LEG- and not with his heart as MG insinuated in his inflammatory post), there wasn't much of a compelling argument in MCP's book. All he did was mention the Cass Sunstein info (what's new about that? there's always been infiltration), and then MCP mentioned that Devvy Kidd says SH hoax theories are "crazy"--but since when is Devvy some sort of expert on psyops and false flags? What she says has nothing to do with the facts and evidence.

Amanda, lots to tackle there. I've listened to the Spingloa with McGowan and with Dr. K interviews again. Good memory re the McGowan show; the S.Hoax topic comes and goes quickly, as he says it was really boston which woke him up that this scale of hoaxery is indeed going on. The Dr. K (http://nodisinfo.com (http://nodisinfo.com/)) interview is much more telling re Spingola & S.Hoax. Advance to the 2nd half, 44:00, where the S.Hoax topic is taken up. Spingola mostly made ooohs & aaahs about the points Dr. K made re S.Hoax, but never really came out in definitive agreement or disagreement with the full-on-hoax view which Dr. K promoted. Interestingly, Dr. K asserted that all the S.Hoax "parents" were jooz, except perhaps Robbie Parker who is a relative mystery man, though he asserted Parker is a "DHS mole".

On MCP, I forget which guest on whose show I heard say it recently, but I agree with their 'suspicion' that MCP's books are ghost-written by CIA spooks, then accredited to MCP. Lots more to say on that than I have the time/energy to compose atm, but in short I think Bollyn's take on MCP & AFP (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?26690-Bollyn-on-DBS-Hufschmid-Piper-Thorn-CIA) are on target. IMHO, as far as Brand-Name-Truthers™ we'll call them :D go; Bollyn appears to be the most uncompromised; and I've followed him for nearly 10 years! Sadly, Spingola, who I only 'discovered' ~2 years ago (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?60988-great-truth-radio-podcast-blog-no-commercials!&p=540658&viewfull=1#post540658), was giving Bollyn a run for his money for that top spot, until her post-Jan-15 jumping the shark on S.Hoax, which has knocked her out of that race entirely.

Re the UN, yep, Agenda 21, Global Commie-Core "Education", vaccine caused neurocide & impotency... I'm promoting the slogan,

Vaccine 'NEUROCIDE' (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63470-Vaccine-BioWeapon-Awareness-Week-Deanna-Spingola-podcasts) + Rotten Core Ed (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?71931-Core-math-3-x-4-11) + Agenda 21 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?35061-Agenda-21-For-Dummies-%28incl-abolition-of-private-property%29) = THE JWO! (http://spingola.com/JewWorldOrder.pdf) :(


On Devvy Kidd, and this is where we get 'conflicted' in which compromised truther's work & views we cite, but... here (nearly 4 years ago), I'm with GlennCo:
Thread: zio-shill Devvy Kidd- Scary Moozlemism: A cancer oozing across America (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?33073-zio-shill-Devvy-Kidd-Scary-Moozlemism-A-cancer-oozing-across-America)


You can see in that ^ thread, as well as earlier in this very Spingola/shark thread, that I take flack from a certain "I HATE SCARY MOLZEMISMISTS!" sub-group here @ GSUS for my failure to HATEhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 SCARY-MOOZLEMShttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 as would be so pleasing to the joosh "Clash of Civilizations" agitproppers.

Along this line, I'll even give a shout out here to perhaps my favorite Spingola show ever (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?73990-Couple-robbed-by-Muslims-feel-they-quot-Deserve-it-quot&p=672517&viewfull=1#post672517)... :)

[Amanda]

Real quick, on Devvy Kidd, yeah she's definitely a zio-shill. And I was totally aware of MG speaking out against Devvy. But what was really funny (in a sad, sick, twisted, pathetic way) was to hear MG and MCP applauding Devvy for calling those Sandy Hook conspiracy theories "crazy"--so now all of the sudden, she's one of the good guys in their world. And I think this was from the show here http://michaelcollinspiper.podbean.com/2013/12/18/tut-broadcast-with-mcp-dec-17-2013/ I'm pretty sure it was MCP speaking so positively about DK, and MG was completely supportive. Also, fwiw, at about 36:25 MCP mentioned how a "good anti-Zionist jew," Judy Andreas, claims that her grandchild attended Sandy Hook and that she was "pained" by those of us claiming it was fake. FWIW, I thought it was strange that MCP would immediately accept this as evidence--hasn't he ever heard of another special HOAX that lots of jewish people claim was real?? At first I thought perhaps MCP was making up this claim about Andreas, but I did a search on her and found a facebook page were she made the last post claiming it was real https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10151999165001490&id=373568871489

[PatColo]

^ interesting stuff Amanda :). Esp GlennCo's flip-flopping on Devvy, lol. Pretty sure I linked to that Dec MG/MCP show here (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?57478-The-Ugly-Truth-podcasts&p=680861&viewfull=1#post680861) - but I don't link to TUT anymore so it's all Mami's. You can see in the comments there @ Mami's how "well" it went over! MG censors comments @ TUT anyways so you'd just get a warped view there. I'm sure I suffered through that show last Dec but that Devvy ref must've gotten by me-- notice that Devvy/zio-shill thread is nearly 4 years old.

I never got into J.Andreas one way or the other, but I do remember years ago, reading some article critical of her; cited her and a number of others oft cited as "good anti-zio jooz", but in reality being basically "anti-zionist zionists"... I wouldn't know where to begin in finding it now.

And re your,


Also, on the idea of DS flipping on SH after reading MCP's book, it's still kind of hard to believe that that's all it would take b/c from what JF and JF said in the non-debate show (when MCP no-showed b/c of health problems with his LEG- and not with his heart as MG insinuated in his inflammatory post), there wasn't much of a compelling argument in MCP's book. All he did was mention the Cass Sunstein info (what's new about that? there's always been infiltration), [...]

Funny too that MCP's same book says boston was real; but Deanna, in accepting whatever deal with the devil she has in assuming her absurd, official zion.gov report-dependent, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism-SHAME-ON-YOU! advocacy role; she still has to stick with her prior Boston=Hoax position, putting her at ODDS with MCP & his/CIA's super-persuasive false flags book, coz she already sort of locked herself into that awkward position with the McGowan & Dr. K interviews above where she was in such vocal agreement re the Boston hoax. And just read that first transcription in the OP here (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=685602&viewfull=1#post685602), taken from her initial Jan 15 S.Hoax show, how twisted & baffling her "logic" is wrt why she thinks they hoaxed boston, but not S.Hoax! :|~

She's really painted herself into a difficult & untenable corner! :o

[PatColo]

Deanna (http://www.blogger.com/profile/05963058800259904712) said...

I am not employed by AFP and do not receive any wages for my AFP radio program. I have uploaded a couple of pages that may address some issues that people have questions about: from my Tuesday program with Halbig: http://www.spingola.com/halbignotes.html and a page that I will be referring to tomorrow that I am still working on: http://www.spingola.com/CensorshipOperation.html On my schedule page for tomorrow's date, I have a little test that I invite people to take: http://www.spingola.com/March2014.html
March 8, 2014 at 7:28 PM




I've had a chance to review the 3 pages DS points to above. As you described it Amanda, following (and defacto 'blogging' in my case) this DS/S.Hoax saga is "exhausting"... and as I just commented (http://www.john-friend.net/2014/03/saturday-night-w-wise-old-man_8.html?showComment=1394417593253#c618919523212 6851029) at JFriend's blog, it's also been (emotionally) "traumatic" watching someone (DS) who formerly occupied a pedestal of relative integrity & credibility IMHO, borrowing variously from the 25 rules of disinformation (http://www.911truth.org/newcm/twenty-five-rules-of-disinformation/) and the list of logical fallacies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies) which she's otherwise 'expert' at spotting, in absurdly making her case in support of zion.gov's official S.Hoax narrative. Not to mention how zion.gov-provided docs & JYTimes/etc propaganda articles seem to have suddenly become beyond reproach for her! :rolleyes:


The first link above entitled, "Links for Deanna's Interview of Wolfgang Halbig March 4, 2014 (http://www.spingola.com/halbignotes.html)", which I see at the top now notes, "Update: March 9, 2014: [...]", amounts to a continuation of DS's ad-hom discreditation campaign against Halbig, based on non-S.Hoax-related matters. The suite vs box # 'scandal', etc... Zzzzzzzz, 'nuff said. Actually, the new/Mar 9 paragraphs at the top of the page, ending with the change of subject towards "Suite-Number-Gate" ;D where the old version of the webpage began, touch on a couple of WH's S.Hoax questions, and also rehashes WH's (misguided) views on djooz... an ad-hom calculated to appeal directly to DS's minority, joo-wise listening audience.


DS's 2nd link above, entitled "Wolfgang Halbig Asks Deanna to Stop Asking Questions and Critiquing Smallstorm's Video : Delphi/Censorship Operation (http://www.spingola.com/CensorshipOperation.html)" (by Deanna Spingola March 9, 2014), opens with a paragraph which exemplifies djooz' all time favorite disinfo MO: the "Flip the Script and Project (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?52269-quot-Among-The-Truthers-quot-Straus-the-Protocols-and-the-Chutzpah-Maneuver)" gambit. Pasting here for posterity,





Wolfgang Halbig Asks Deanna to Stop Asking Questions and Critiquing Smallstorm's Video
Delphi/Censorship Operation (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?52269-quot-Among-The-Truthers-quot-Straus-the-Protocols-and-the-Chutzpah-Maneuver)
by Deanna Spingola
March 9, 2014


Wolfgang Halbig, on numerous radio shows, has talked about his experiences and has openly divulged the contents of his mail to Newtown police and school officials demanding answers to his questions. Halbig has made accusations, denigrated police officers, and questioned the behavior of grieving parents. He says that local homicide detectives came to his house and threatened him. Following that, he says that two sheriff's deputies came to his house and threatened him. However, when I recently started questioning the conclusions or rather the consensus (group-think) that others had arrived at regarding Sandy Hook, Halbig and others, via email, phone calls and in internet forums (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=2509190206013096376), often using mob censure (http://www.spingola.com/Unraveling1.html) (see first paragraph), have attempted to denigrate and silence me. People, following their leaders, do the dirty work using this method of censorship. Look at what happened to Suzanne when she offered information in a forum (see first comment (http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/11/07/unraveling-sandy-hook-in-2-3-4-and-5-dimensions/)). It can get quite mean-spirited. Multiply that example by thousands because certain people "framed the debate" over a year ago. They determined what the "truth movement" was going to believe about Sandy Hook. I conducted a hard-hitting interview (http://www.spingola.com/WolfHalbig.2014.03.04.mp3) with Halbig and I dared to ask him some questions. After all, he was demanding answers from others, issues that the official report, released on November 25, 2013, had already addressed. Most people, for a variety of reasons, including being over-worked, raising a family, insufficient time, have not read those reports and simply trusted others for information. Halbig, perhaps exploiting those circumstances, gained massive support for his seemingly reasonable questions. Many people support him in an unnecessary and possibly a harassment campaign against Newtown officials. Given this situation, why shouldn't someone demand some answers from Halbig? I have an easily-accessible track record of research, writing and broadcasting. I did not just suddenly appear. I earned whatever trust people might have in me. I have a legitimate right to ask Halbig about his credentials and past experiences and to verify his claims. He, or anyone else, should have absolutely nothing to hide if the claims that he/she is making are true. After all, truth does not fear investigation!!!!
Cass Sunstein Document (http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084585)

Interesting Timeline: [...]


Now, we know DS, who's a WW2 & holohoax (& much more) revisionist author, knows well djooz' #1 favorite "Flip the Script and Project (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?52269-quot-Among-The-Truthers-quot-Straus-the-Protocols-and-the-Chutzpah-Maneuver)" lying MO (using Joowathan Kay's reality-inverting "Among The Truthers" book as an example in that link; also see ZCF's The Psychological Projections of Organized Jewry (http://theendofziondotcom1.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/the_psychological_projections_of_organized_jewry.p df)), esp when it comes to their "Big Lies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie#Hitler.27s_use_of_the_expression)" like re Hitler/WW2 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63370-Adolf-Hitler-The-greatest-story-NEVER-told!), the Holohoax (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?54461-Introduction-to-the-Holocaust%E2%84%A2-Hoax), and 9/11 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?23130-The-quot-Israel-did-9-11-quot-Thread). So we know that when DS brazenly employs this lying MO in making her case for her proclaimed beliefs, that something is seriously amiss. :|~


Above, DS tries to portray herself as, "...questioning the conclusions or rather the consensus (group-think) that others had arrived at regarding Sandy Hook"; but she does so from the position of embracing zion.media.gov's official S.Hoax narrative! 80-90+ percent of Americans unquestioningly embrace the zion.media.gov-manufactured "consensus (group-think)" narrative of S.Hoax, "following their leaders" as she puts it, in her trying to Flip the Script and Project!! :D


So from that ^ pretend 'minority, outside-of-the-consensus (group-think) viewpoint' which DS fraudulently tries to posture as representing, despite that it's obviously truly describing her opponents in the S.Hoax-skeptics/research community (IE she's reverse-projecting); she then seeks to portray herself as the VICTIM™ of how people, "...often using mob censure (http://www.spingola.com/Unraveling1.html) (see first paragraph), have attempted to denigrate and silence me." Yes indeed, those aligned with zion.media.gov's official S.Hoax story, are 'the bullied, voiceless underdogs' in this debate, lol.


On Feb 23, DS was publicly seeking to ad-hom/discredit WH based on her unsubstantiated speculation that he was perhaps LYING about the police visits to his home, in his seeking to play the VICTIM™ card (ref: "I am very dubious about his claims of the local police coming to his house. Jewish people do make such claims; they love being victims as it brings them so much attention. It certainly seems to have worked for him" (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=692495&viewfull=1#post692495)). < Notice there, DS also matter-of-factly inferred that WH is joosh, which he rejected in their March 4 "interview", stating that he's Polish/Catholic. On March 6, two days after her WH "interview", DS publicly bemoaned and speculated, "It would seem that Halbig is now the victim after my interview with him. Perhaps that is the reason he accepted my invitation to be on the program. (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=695221&viewfull=1#post695221)" Hmmm. So DS plainly holds those who (she imagines) try to "play the VICTIM™ card" in contempt. Yet when it suits her, as we see in her opening paragraph above; then her fraudulently claiming VICTIM™ status by Flipping the Script & Projecting, is A-OK. :cool:

I mean, she's plainly watched in envy at how well it works for djooz! --H H--


DS's linking to the "Cass Sunstein Document (http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084585)" at the end of her opening paragraph above, without comment, deserves some comment from me. On March 6 in the comments at Mami's (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=2509190206013096376), a character who posts mostly anti-S.Hoax-skepticism comments seeking to denigrate/ridicule/silence S.Hoax-skeptics; s/he posting variously as Consti2tionalist/ExposeSupremacism/Rockclimber/George Jones, posted a comment which cited Cass Sunstein... again... suggesting that S.Hoax skeptics were likely "Sunstein agents"...



George Jones (http://www.blogger.com/profile/06687074513834015453) said...
[...]
Furthermore you really don't see how damaging this is to the real truth movement. Call me paranoid but I do not trust anyone who is on the hoaxer side. You are employing the very tactics that Cass Sunstein had hoped for and quite honestly, you guys are doing great work for him. It's just disgusting and now you guys are making attempts to destroy Deanna? Even more suspicious...
March 6, 2014 at 11:57 AM


This was about the bijillionth time I'd heard/read the anti-S.Hoax-skepticism info warriors cite "Cass Sunstein", in seeking to tar the S.Hoax skeptic/research community with suspicion & doubt that we're "Sunstein agents". The Piper/Glenn/Tillawi crew have repeated the 'S.Hoax skepticism = Sunstein Op' bit ad nauseum ever since their Jan 13, '13 show (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?65846-new-shooting-Newtown-Conn-details-breaking&p=603757&viewfull=1#post603757) introducing their new anti-S.Hoax-skepticism campaign, and they've beat that 'Sunstein' drum to a pulp ever since (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?57478-The-Ugly-Truth-podcasts&p=614081&viewfull=1#post614081). In DS's Jan 15, '14 show announcing her membership in the pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism clubhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, the show which I critiqued in the OP here; she openly 'speculated' near the end, saying "... (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=685602&viewfull=1#post685602)So the best way for a counter-operation, is to say, 'Hey, nobody died. Nobody died that day... (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=685602&viewfull=1#post685602)", suggesting the same old same old from the pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story warriors: S.Hoax skepticism is a gummit op..." In the very TITLE of her webpage above, DS accuses WH of being a "Delphi/Censorship Operation (http://www.spingola.com/CensorshipOperation.html)".


I replied (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=2509190206013096376) to "George Jones" above,



Pat Colo (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13211839490699366177) said...
[...]
And what's with you pro-official-SHoax-story warriors' fixation on Cass Sunstein? GlennCo, Deanna, and the nobodies hereabouts posting comments, hammer that Sunstein bit ad nauseum! His junk was nothing new, cointelpro's been active since the '60s, and "in deep" since long before the 911 TM got any traction.

Frankly, you pro-official-SHoax-story folks relentlessly suggesting/accusing SHoax-skeptics/investigators of being "Sunstein Agents Yada Yada", reeks of the age-old joowey "Flip the Script and Project" maneuver! In your words, "Even more suspicious..."

http://www.israelsituation.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/1171832978893.jpg
March 6, 2014 at 12:59 PM


That's ^ where I stand on the incessant "Sunstein agents! :o" smears coming from the pro-zion.gov-SHoax-story info warriors. It's them *PREEMPTIVELY* Flipping the Script & Projecting. I've said for years (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?48510-The-gullible-mind-explained-False-projection-of-honor-code&p=410540&viewfull=1#post410540), for this textbook joo disinfo MO to be most successful, it's crucial that the guilty party, in this instance the "Sunstein cognitive-infiltration agents" inside the TM who are absurdly propping up zion.media.gov's official S.Hoax story, while (laboring tirelessly to) denigrate/ridicule/shame/silence its skeptics inside the TM; the guilty/agent party must BE THE FIRST & THE LOUDEST & THE MOST REPETITIOUS in accusing their 'opponents' of exactly what they the guilty/zion.gov-agent party is supremely & conspicuously guilty of. It's a 'SIGNATURE' joo lying MO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie#Hitler.27s_use_of_the_expression); thus when I see it, esp as early, often, & systematically as I have from the pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism clubhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, I know we're dealing with trained, organized, & dishonest actors.


I'll deal with the "Interesting Timeline:" portion of DS's webpage in a later post; taking a break from this nonsense for now!
OO)~

[Tumbleweed]

I can't keep up with all the things Dianna or others are saying back and forth but something seems to me to have gone wrong with her. I had listened to an interview I believe she did with Mike King and the conversation at one point focused on whole families being murdered I believe in WWII. Dianna started crying and couldn't seem to stop for quite a while. I think I've noticed in other interviews doing the same thing.

At the time I wondered if she has some mental or emotional problems that when it comes to dead children her brain shuts down because she can't handle it? The position she's taken on Sandy Hook and her crying when the subject in her interviews turns to children suffering has me wondering about her mental and emotional health.

[Amanda]

@PatColo---Thank you so much for the EXCELLENT post above. I'll add more detailed thoughts later. Dealing with Deanna, the Deanna fanboys, and TUT cult members has been beyond exhausting.

[PatColo]

Thanks Amanda. I wish it all weren't so!

@ Tumbleweed, very possible I guess. DS has also 'wept on air' when doing the series of solo S.Hoax shows she's done since her initial Jan 15 S.Hoax show (all should be linked somewhere above), when talking about those poor 20 children & adult victims yada yada. I'm less concerned with her 'female' emotional response to tragedies real or hoaxed, than I am with her fallacious "reasoning" in favor of zion.gov's fictitious S.Hoax story.

Anyways, DS was supposed to have an RBN show yesterday (sun mar 9); but I don't see any evidence anywhere that the show took place?

http://www.spingola.com/March2014.html


Sunday, 3/9: Hour 1: Deanna talks about Internet propaganda and Operation Censorship (http://www.spingola.com/CensorshipOperation.html); Hours 2 & 3: Larry Engel (http://www.lincolnamendment.net) talks about Censorship on the Internet;


This weeks challenge: Are you gullible to Internet propaganda? Take a test to determine your vulnerability. Watch this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWZ_lVmivLY&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop). Did you believe the claims it made? If you did, why? Was it the music, the authoritarian manner in which the presenter spoke? Did he give you his sources so that you could validate them yourself? Was it his claims? Rather than just accept those claims, please visit the SSDMF, the Social Security Death Master File (https://www.ssdmf.com/Library/InfoManage/Guide.asp?FolderID=1&SessionID=%7BC4824640-728C-494B-AE4E-4F79E1123204%7D&SP=2). On the left, please click on User-based Subscriptions to see how much it costs for one person to access the database. Did the creator of the video pay that fee? Next, please visit Connecticut's Department of Public Health (http://www.ct.gov/dph/cwp/view.asp?a=3132&q=390652). Public online genealogy databases cannot and do not contain recent birth records!!!

[Amanda]

(sorry if this is a bit hard to read--I'm still new to this forum and haven't figured out how to do all the formatting)


Well, I started to go through Deanna's http://www.spingola.com/CensorshipOperation.html and it's a bit mentally fatiguing--lots of twisting of info, convoluted logic, and quite a bit of projection. She's been on this theme for a while now, where's she's accusing the rest of us (who believe it was a hoax) of using "group manipulation tactics." But the only psychological manipulation I've seen has come from their side, as we immediately saw MG and the TUT gang (I think MCP quickly joined in) go on the attack with constant ridicule, mockery, insults, name-calling ("crazy" and "insane"), and intimidation of anyone who dared to question the official story coming out of the Jewish media. And I can most certainly attest to the fact that there was a great deal of censorship going on in Deanna's chatroom, as she directly told me to "refrain" from my opinion until I read MCP's book (sorry, I'm an educated person, who does her own research and is capable of basic logic and critical thinking--I don't need an internet radio host to tell me how to think:) And there were later times when comments my friend and I made on SH being a hoax were simply deleted. So, who is really doing the censoring??

Also, she brought this stuff up again:

On Wednesday, January 8, 2014, John Friend was to host a debate about Sandy Hook, particularly Dr. James Fetzer's article, written on 1/7, between Piper and Fetzer. Mike experienced a serious health issue, emailed Friend very early that morning and asked if Friend could reschedule the debate. Friend then talked with Fetzer on his radio program and stated that Piper had "backed out."

On Monday, January 13, 2014, Michael Collins Piper was taken to the Emergency room by ambulance with a possible, painful blood clot in his leg. Doctors hospitalized him, did a whole battery of tests and discovered that he was suffering with congestive heart failure and had previously suffered a heart attack. Fetzer claimed that Piper was faking it to avoid the debate.


Well, on the "serious health issue" that led MCP to cancel the debate, it's my understanding that he simply emailed Fetzer and Friend that he couldn't make it b/c of problems with his leg. It doesn't sound as though MCP indicated he was in grave condition, and of course, there' s no way JF or JF could have known that MCP would end up in the hospital five days later due to problems with his heart. Here's what Fetzer wrote about this in his article http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/01/25/the-ugly-truth-about-michael-collins-piper-cass-sunstein-and-sandy-hook/

"Imagine our astonishment when we received an early AM email from Michael Collins Piper tells us that he was experiencing physical problems with his foot and leg and could not participate in the scheduled debate"


And above, Deanna also says that " Fetzer claimed that Piper was faking it to avoid the debate." Well, I actually listened to that audio twice, and I never heard Fetzer say MCP was "faking" his health problems (which, to Fetzer's knowledge at that point, were simply problems with his leg---no one had any way of knowing that MCP would have heart problems five days later). All I heard in that show w/Fetzer and Friend, was that Fetzer did a little friendly kidding, saying in a joking tone that perhaps MCP had to cancel b/c he looked at the evidence. It was a joke!!! At no time did Fetzer or Friend say MCP was lying about his health problems, or that it was a hoax (which is what MG and MCP later accused them of doing)

Deanna also goes on to suggest that those of us who believe it's a hoax are unwilling to change our stance in light of new information:

"The one thing that I note, whether it was during the 'debates' or on a radio program, those who believe that Sandy Hook was a hoax never change their views about any of the issues, even when presented with contradictory evidence or when someone answers their questions. Perhaps these people are not really looking for answers. They just wish to impose their views on the population. People who research regularly change their minds as they discover additional data. Change agents do not do that."


So, given the fact that TIME magazine did a public records search and found that there were NO weapons or firearms registered to Nancy Lanza (57 sec mark http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2CJVaYHqBw), and since ATF Agent Marquez stated that said his agency "has not been able to uncover any evidence that the mother and the son were actively engaged in going to the gun ranges, practicing marksmanship, or anything of that nature" (source: http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/15/us/connecticut-lanza-family-profile/index.html?iref=allsearch), does this mean that Deanna is going to retract what she said on her show on 1/15 at 30:40:

" [...] A little bit about Adam Lanza. His mother loved guns. She often took her sons to one of the shooting ranges in the area. She was active there. She was a gun enthusiast [...]"


For the record, I highly doubt that Deanna will retract what she said. It seems as though she is the one who is unwilling to re-evaluate her position in light of new information. It's quite obvious (and very disappointing) that she is HIGHLY INVESTED in promoting the JEWISH narrative around Sandy Hook. And, as I said before, I honestly don't know how to makes sense of her flipping on Sandy Hook (and she definitely did flip--she had Dr. K about Boston and Sandy Hook and never indicated any disagreement, and back then she never interjected "think about the suffering parents and their dead children" as she is now doing), except that it occurred after reading MCP's book. And this is a book written by a someone who proved in the debate that he knows NOTHING about the basic facts and evidence involved in Sandy Hook.

Also, on the topic of Deanna switching, here's her schedule from Dec 2012 (month of Sandy Hook HOAX) http://www.spingola.com/December2012.html and if you scroll down to 12/31, she links to this http://www.spingola.com/31Questions.html and she also linked to a Robbie Parker video, which is now marked private, but when I checked after she seemed to turn on SH during that show w/MCP, that video was one that showed RP laughing/joking on his way up to the microphone and then getting into character. So, given that she was linking to this stuff back in 12/12, it seems like she was definitely questioning the event initially, but now, after reading MCP's book, she's in full support of the official JEWISH media version of events. (?????)

Well, there's plenty more I could say on Deanna's recent posts, as well as her critique of Sofia's documentary, but I honestly don't have the time or mental energy right now.

[PatColo]

Good post Amanda, and jibes with my memory of events, without going through the tedium of re-listening to the old podcasts in question. Also well spied on DS's hypocrisy re her blind-stubborness of S.Hoax skeptics...want to impose their views...not really looking for answers...they're disingenuous 'Change Agents'...yada...yada... bit; as again it's a textbook example of Flip the Script & Project... that joowey disinfo gambit we've seen infused throughout their campaign since GlennCo rolled it out 14 months ago. They're constantly 'schooling us' on Sunstein, Delphi Technique, mob censure bla bla, hoping that offsets or 'neutralizes' our ability to notice that they're wolves in sheep's clothing, schooling the sheep about those dangerous wolves we need to be leery of (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?26690-Bollyn-on-DBS-Hufschmid-Piper-Thorn-CIA&p=668792&viewfull=1#post668792), LOL. They're what the Staussian neo-Cons call, "Pious Frauds (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?52269-quot-Among-The-Truthers-quot-Straus-the-Protocols-and-the-Chutzpah-Maneuver)", [{baa}]


I posted a comment linking to my Reply 71 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=695864&viewfull=1#post695864) above, in the Mami's comments on the most recent AFP/Halbig thread (March 10, 2014 at 12:23 PM (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=2936394322765463379)); but that blog is approaching the bottom of page 2 atm and it won't likely see many eyeballs, much less get further replies. So I'll drop it into JFriend's (http://www.john-friend.net/2014/03/saturday-night-w-wise-old-man_8.html?showComment=1394506436537#c891416654836 1959696), memoryholeblog (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/02/19/wolfgang-halbigs-quest-for-truth/comment-page-2/#comment-62156), radiofetzer (http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2014/02/mark-s-mann.html?showComment=1394506259323#c1038005390481 234927), etc... anywhere else you can propagate it, appreciated! Here's a tinyurl version you can post, redirecting to the long Reply 71 URL:
http://tinyurl.com/kx83ghs
I still see no indication that DS's scheduled show yesterday (sun mar 9), where WH/S.Hoax were to be discussed, took place?
EDIT: here it is, should be interesting!

Monday, March 10, 2014


Spingola Speaks 2014.03.09 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/spingola-speaks-20140309.html)

Guest: Larry Engel (http://www.lincolnamendment.net/), Operation Censorship (http://spingola.com/CensorshipOperation.html), Halbig Notes (http://www.spingola.com/halbignotes.html)
This is Deanna's recording. RBN's was choppy.
News Page (http://mynewspage.wordpress.com/websites/deanna-spingola/)
Deanna's site (http://www.spingola.com/radio_schedule.html)
Official chat room (http://spingola.chatango.com/)
Spingola Speaks .Info (http://spingolaspeaks.info/)
RBN (http://republicbroadcasting.org/)

32k CF Download (http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/7x72086fuf/Spingola.Speaks.2014.03.09.Larry.Engel.mp3)

Posted by zapoper (http://www.blogger.com/profile/15726967138606494466) at 10:07 PM No comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=7684819028148270582)



You also hit on a couple of DS's "Interesting Timeline (http://www.spingola.com/CensorshipOperation.html)" bits which I anticipated remarking on, saving me some work...


I won't paste her whole timeline here as it's lengthy, and DS's larger 'point' is unclear as she never quite 'spelled it out', but frankly her overall message seems to be suggesting ongoing 'vicious persecution' of herself and her pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism tribehttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, for their pretend 'minority, outside-of-the-consensus (group-think) viewpoints' LOL. So I'll just quote the timeline items where I have anything to remark on:



On Friday, December 6, 2013, I interviewed Michael Collins Piper (http://michaelcollinspiper.podbean.com/), the author of Final Judgment (http://www.amazon.com/dp/0935036539), on my RBN program. He talked about Cass Sunstein’s proposal of infiltrating the Internet in order to control the debate about certain events or what Sunstein called conspiracy theories.

On Thursday, December 19, 2013, I presented information from B. K. Eakman's book, How to Counter Group Manipulation Tactics: The Techniques of Unethical Consensus Building Unmasked (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005J7LELS/) as it relates to group mind manipulation on the Internet.

On Thursday, December, 26, 2013, I interviewed Michael Collins Piper (http://mikepiperreport.com/), the author of Final Judgment (http://www.amazon.com/dp/0935036539), talks about his book, False Flags, Template for Terror (http://www.barnesreview.org/false-flags-template-for-terror-p-623.html)
[...]
On Wednesday, February 12, 2014, I interviewed Beverly Eakman (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005J7LELS/) about mass mind control; it is easier to control a group than it is to control an individual.



Sunstein, Group Manipulation Tactics, mass mind control Yada Yada 'nuff said.




They're constantly 'schooling us' on Sunstein, Delphi Technique, mob censure bla bla, hoping that offsets or 'neutralizes' our ability to notice that they're wolves in sheep's clothing, schooling the sheep about those dangerous wolves they need to be leery of (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?26690-Bollyn-on-DBS-Hufschmid-Piper-Thorn-CIA&p=668792&viewfull=1#post668792), LOL. They're what the Staussian neo-Cons call, "Pious Frauds (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?52269-quot-Among-The-Truthers-quot-Straus-the-Protocols-and-the-Chutzpah-Maneuver)",
[{baa}]





On Wednesday, February 5, 2014, Keith Johnson was on my program where he talked about Sandy Hook. Dr. Fetzer called into the program (http://www.spingola.com/FetzersCall.mp3), and ended the conversation by claiming that I was losing my listenership


DS kindly included that 4 minute 'called into the program (http://www.spingola.com/FetzersCall.mp3)' MP3 audio clip of the Fetzer call-in. Definitely listen to it... as I described here in my Reply #21 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=689224&viewfull=1#post689224), after the preceding 55 minutes dominated by DS & KJ tag-team ad-hom attacking Fetzer who at that point called in; DS quickly muted Fetzer for most of his call-in, finally unmuted him, asked him how he knows DS is 'losing listenership', then obviously afraid of what Fetzer's answer may be, DS HUNG UP ON HIM.


Does the audio clip itself, jibe with DS's characterization of how "[Fetzer] ended the conversation" ?? Or does it sound like more of the same "joowey rhetorical manipulation gambits (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=692495&viewfull=1#post692495)" she's employed throughout her pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism campaign, beginning on Jan 15??



Arrest by CT State Police? (From other sources we know that Halbig sent another letter to the Newtown Board of Education on the same day, January 22, 2014 making demands)
[...]



Above is the beginning of a lengthy email which WH sent to Newtown police asking S.Hoax questions, interspersed with commentary from DS in parenthesis. I'm not quoting the whole thing here; I invite readers to check it out at her "Wolfgang Halbig Asks Deanna to Stop Asking Questions and Critiquing Smallstorm's Video : Delphi/Censorship Operation (http://www.spingola.com/CensorshipOperation.html)" page.


Please observe how many times DS 'answers' WH's questions, with variations of, "(the answer is in the report)". In fact on that webpage, DS uses the word "report" eighteen (18) times, in reference to zion.gov's official S.Hoax report.


As I said at the opening of Reply 71, "...Not to mention how zion.gov-provided docs & JYTimes/etc propaganda articles seem to have suddenly become beyond reproach for her! :rolleyes: "



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http://i.imgur.com/XLTJQbd.jpg




In their Mar 4 "interview", WH did manage to 'get a word in edgewise' between DS's relentless interruptions, where at 1:03:30, ex-cop WH lamented, "Are we in trouble! Oh my! No wonder we're not going to solve this problem. We've got so many people, who believe a police report! Deanna, you have got to open up your eyes! Please! Oh my God! Goodness gracious!" lol



On Tuesday, February 11, 2014, on the same day that Halbig emailed me, on my AFP program, which broadcast from 2-4pm (CST), I presented Part 1 (http://www.spingola.com/Unraveling1.html) of my critique on Sofia Smallstorm's video: Sofia Smallstorm Unraveling Sandy Hook (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1yfJDCMU64) During my program, Halbig called into the program and strongly suggested that I stop critiquing Smallstorm's video as it was a waste of airtime; hear that sound-bite here (http://www.spingola.com/HalbigCall211.mp3)


I recommend listening to that 7 min MP3 clip which DS links to above. Note that WH's criticism of DS's burning her precious air time fixated on Sofia and her S.Hoax video (http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/11/07/unraveling-sandy-hook-in-2-3-4-and-5-dimensions/) (DS did 3 or 4 solo shows devoted exclusively to attacking Sofia & her video, all are linked above somewhere), which amounted to a a very small portion of that WH call-in, is apparently the sole basis for DS's titling her webpage, "Wolfgang Halbig Asks Deanna to Stop Asking Questions and Critiquing Smallstorm's Video : Delphi/Censorship Operation (http://www.spingola.com/CensorshipOperation.html)".


Did you hear WH admonish DS to "Stop Asking Questions" anywhere? On the contrary, WH said to DS at 5:35 in the above clip, "Seek the truth; Deanna, only seek the truth". DS's choice of titles for her webpage sounds like more of the same "joowey rhetorical manipulation gambits (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=692495&viewfull=1#post692495)" she's employed throughout her pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism campaign, beginning on Jan 15.



On Tuesday, February 25, 2014, John Stadtmiller, the owner of RBN, announced my replacement after I had broadcasted on RBN for three and a half years. Apparently, Dr. Fetzer was prophetic when he claimed that I was losing my listenership! Great, more time to do research!


DS's "...announced my replacement" language infers to the reader that she was 'fired' and no longer at RBN. My understanding is, she will still be doing a 3 hour Sunday show on RBN. Her mention of "Dr. Fetzer" in her same misleading timeline entry above, is obviously suggesting to readers that Fetzer, if not the whole 'Eeevil Sunstein-sponsored S.Hoax researchers movement PsyOp', had something to do with DS's (in fact) being replaced for her weekday show time slot.


DS chose not to mention above, that discussion of her leaving RBN has been in play since at least 9/11/13, over 4 months before 1/15/14 when DS announced her membership in the pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism tribehttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018; advance to 21:00 in this DS/MDankof interview (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?60988-great-truth-radio-podcast-blog-no-commercials!&p=659436&viewfull=1#post659436). :rolleyes:


But DS's misleading choice of wording for her timeline item above seems to be suggesting ongoing 'vicious persecution' of herself and her pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism tribehttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, for their pretend 'minority, outside-of-the-consensus (group-think) viewpoints' LOL.



On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, I interviewed Wolfgang W. Halbig on my RBN program, MP3 (http://www.spingola.com/WolfHalbig.2014.03.04.mp3); Program Notes (http://www.spingola.com/halbignotes.html) On the program I asked him if he was ever a homicide investigator but he avoided the question. When he called into my program on 2/11, he claimed to be a homicide investigator. The one thing that I note, whether it was during the "debates" or on a radio program, those who believe that Sandy Hook was a hoax never change their views about any of the issues, even when presented with contradictory evidence or when someone answers their questions. Perhaps these people are not really looking for answers. They just wish to impose their views on the population. People who research regularly change their minds as they discover additional data. Change agents do not do that.


DS's "...On the program I asked him if he was ever a homicide investigator but he avoided the question. When he called into my program on 2/11, he claimed to be a homicide investigator..." bit above appears to be her 'response' to my twice-asked question of her, as I described & linked in Reply 55 and 56 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=695057&viewfull=1#post695057) above,



Pat Colo said...Deanna, re your remark:

" I asked him some very direct questions, many of which he avoided answering or else he changed the subject. "

could you please provide some examples of the "many" instances in this show, where in response to a direct question, Wolf "avoided answering or else he changed the subject", ideally with minute-marks? This so I can re-listen to the exchange, and see whether or not I agree?

Coz based on the show I heard, it sounds like this claim may be another case of...
http://tinyurl.com/opf5sjo
March 6, 2014 at 12:38 PM


So DS has provided ONE dubious 'example' of the (ALEGEDLY MANY!?!) evasions which she accused WH of committing during the show. Her "...I asked him if he was ever a homicide investigator but he avoided the question..." claim appears to be referring to the exchange beginning at the 51:00 mark of their Mar 4 "interview". Here's the MP3 of the 3/4 show (http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/tilrlvs73q/Spingola_Speaks_2014.03.04_WolfHalbig.mp3) again; and I invite readers to advance to 51:00, and see if you agree with DS's characterization of WH's response to her latest interruption there.


What *I HEARD* was DS interrupting WH at 51:05, and then daisy-chaining 4 separate questions together rapid fire, for WH to answer. WH went about trying to answer her jumble of questions, when he was interrupted again by DS at 51:50, and she changed the subject yet again. Yet she characterized this exchange as, "...he avoided the question...". Flip the Script & Project... does anyone else see a pattern here?


So I hope it's clear by now, the "quality of discourse" which DS and her pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism tribehttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?57478-The-Ugly-Truth-podcasts&p=614081&viewfull=1#post614081) have delivered through this whole S.Hoax controversy.

[PatColo]

Monday, March 10, 2014

Spingola Speaks 2014.03.09 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/spingola-speaks-20140309.html)

Guest: Larry Engel (http://www.lincolnamendment.net/), Operation Censorship (http://spingola.com/CensorshipOperation.html), Halbig Notes (http://www.spingola.com/halbignotes.html)
This is Deanna's recording. RBN's was choppy.
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Deanna's site (http://www.spingola.com/radio_schedule.html)
Official chat room (http://spingola.chatango.com/)
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Posted by zapoper (http://www.blogger.com/profile/15726967138606494466) at 10:07 PM No comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=7684819028148270582)


I've listened to this now. DS is solo the first hour; actually it's 45 mins in the MP3 above where the comm/news breaks are removed; and she talks Sunstein, Delphi, infiltration, & WH.


Not much to remark about the first 29.5 mins, as it's more of the same old same old with DS schooling listeners on Sunstein, infiltration, Delphi, etc. Following MCP's lead (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?26690-Bollyn-on-DBS-Hufschmid-Piper-Thorn-CIA&p=668792&viewfull=1#post668792) I guess.


Gets interesting at 29:30 where she introduces the WH topic again. DS notes how WH's Child Safety Institute website has gone down. She rehashes Suite-Number-Gate, Zzzzzzz. She claims that the "referrals" WH cited at his (former) CSI website, were all deceased people. This claim is apparently according to the "research" of an anonymous "Poseidon" internet persona who DS evidently extends her full faith & credit to... so much so that she posted "Poseidon's research" denigrating WH's (former) business, publicly on her "Links for Deanna's Interview of Wolfgang Halbig March 4, 2014 (http://www.spingola.com/halbignotes.html)" webpage. Hey, at least she "cites her source", lol :cool: Don't miss Amanda's info on DS's "uber-trusted anonymous internet source", the "Poseidon" character, in her Reply 66 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=695593&viewfull=1#post695593) above.


At 32:25, DS says of WH:





"... He demands all these answers from other people. And yet when I questioned some of the information that had come out; he really didn't want me, you know, asking any questions, about people who'd done research on Sandy Hook. He called into my program, a program that I did on February 11, and umm, and really didn't want me to be asking questions. "




DS imagines all of the above, again, based on WH's ~7 minute call-in to her Feb 11 show (MP3 clip (http://www.spingola.com/HalbigCall211.mp3)), where WH even says to DS at 5:35 in the clip, "Seek the truth; Deanna, only seek the truth".


DS appears to me to be posturing as the VICTIM™ again above; as her seemingly 'paranoid' characterization of WH's very polite call-in, is in tune with her portrayal of herself as the VICTIM™ of how people, "...often using mob censure (http://www.spingola.com/Unraveling1.html) (see first paragraph), have attempted to denigrate and silence me", as she stated in her opening paragraph here (http://www.spingola.com/CensorshipOperation.html). More on DS's make-believe persecution & VICTIMHOOD™ in my Reply 71 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=695864&viewfull=1#post695864) above. http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.png


At 33:20 in this Mar 9 show, DS resumes her ad-hom attacks against WH, related to his just-dissolved CSI business. She wonders aloud to her audience,





"... His parter quit, because of Halbig's questioning of Sandy Hook. Well I'd like to know, okay, who was his partner; and if Halbig has been investigating Sandy Hook for about a year, didn't that partner know about that investigation before now? I think it's very interesting that his partner quit, and that Halbig took down his website just 3 short days after I questioned the validity of his business on my radio program on March 4th. Now, if he fabricated a business, did he also fabricate the story about the local homicide detectives and sheriff's deputies coming to his house to threaten him? Maybe he just saw them at the local supermarket and said hi. ..."




DS knows well that WH's investigation into S.Hoax 'blew up', went global, viral, beginning only Feb 11th; as surely as she writes in her own timeline entry following:



On Tuesday, February 11, 2014, Dave Gahary uploaded a podcast, School Safety Expert Threatened for Questioning Sandy Hook, which went viral throughout the Internet. See more here (http://americanfreepress.net/?p=15503#sthash.7814wzsW.dpuf)


WH's business partner obviously didn't ask for, nor want, the uninvited attention of being the business partner of the overnight US/global alt-media sensation which WH had become post Feb 11. WH was presumably going about his S.Hoax work quietly prior to Feb 11, not making for any issues in their partnership arrangement. DS can figure all this out, and/or she can call WH and ask him for details. But her choice to post her entirely 'speculative' & defamatory nonsense publicly instead, speaks to her disingenuousness & her S.Hoax AGENDA.


DS's "... if he fabricated a business, did he also fabricate the story about the local homicide detectives and sheriff's deputies coming to his house to threaten him? Maybe he just saw them at the local supermarket and said hi. ..." noise is even more disgraceful. Amazing how Delphi-Deanna magically, rhetorically morphed last week's events wrt her Mar 4 WH show & WH's CSI business closing, into publicly 'suggesting' that WH's business was somehow a 'fabrication'; and then how she magically further morphs that completely unsubstantiated 'rumor' she just made up, into suggesting that therefore WH is lying about the police visits to his FL home. :(


During their Feb 18 radio interview (http://americanfreepress.net/?p=15894), WH told Dave Gahary the names of 2 of the police officers who'd come to his home, based upon the business cards they'd left with him. Did 'Honest S.Hoax Truth Seeker, Delphi-Deanna' follow up on this, calling WH's local PD and verifying their visit(s)? Or, did she publicly shoot the S.Hoax Truth messenger first, and ask questions later, if at all? :rolleyes:


Notice above, DS gave *ZERO* attention to WH's S.Hoax questions (http://www.dailypaul.com/313008/wolfgang-w-halbig-stay-focused-on-10-questions-to-unravel-sandy-hook-massacre-puzzle) in her Mar 9 show; she only launched her own fabricated rumors & ad-hom smears against the S.Hoax-Truth Messenger. Even the "police visits" matter is separate from WH's S.Hoax questions. Though the police visits certainly do speak to the "guilty demeanor" which zion.media.gov have exhibited for the past ~15 months since their orchestration of the S.Hoax charade.


One nice thing is, with just one small tweak, we can re-invert DS's Flip the Script & Project spiel below, such that she spells out her pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism tribe'shttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 game, in plain & simple language:





" The one thing that I note, whether it was during the "debates" or on a radio program, those who believe the Joosh-controlled media and Joosh-controlled "government reports" narrative of Sandy Hook, never change their views about any of the issues, even when presented with contradictory evidence or when someone answers their questions. Perhaps these people are not really looking for answers. They just wish to impose their views on the population. People who research regularly change their minds as they discover additional data. Change agents do not do that. "



--H H--

[PatColo]

Host Rodney Martin has posted a 1 hour show he did today with guest Delphi-Deanna™.



World View Foundations 2014.03.12 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/world-view-foundations-20140312.html)



A discussion with Deanna Spingola

Noted Researcher, Author and Broadcaster Deanna Spingola (http://www.spingola.com/), Spingola the host of the very popular Radio Show, “Spingola Speaks” Radio Show and author of the books, “The Ruling Elite, A Study of Imperialism, Genocide, & Emancipation” and “The Ruling Elite, the Zionist Seizure of World Power” joins Rodney on World View Foundations to discuss her research and work in exposing the global elite power structure and to reflect on her broadcast career.

Oral History Page (http://www.wvfoundations.org/id13.html)
ANA (http://www.ana-ann.com/)
American Nationalist Network (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/american-nationalist-network)
WorldView Foundations (http://www.wvfoundations.org/)

Download
(http://www.blogtalkradio.com/american-nationalist-network/2014/03/12/world-view-foundations.mp3)

Posted by zapoper (http://www.blogger.com/profile/15726967138606494466) at 8:06 PM 3 comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=5799974980689627317)


Sandy Hoax is the main topic of conversation. I don't have much to remark which isn't already spelled out in the replies above. This show was basically more of their same song & dance, Sunstein Sunstein Sunstein, cognitive infiltration, Flip the Script & Project, S.Hoax-skeptics don't really care about the truth, their mind is made up, Sunstein, those poor grieving S.Hoax parents, yada, yada, yada. Sunstein. Zzzzzzz.


I haven't been a close follower of RM, but he shows himself to be a member of the pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism tribehttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 in this interview. I've posted 2 replies in Mami's comments (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=5799974980689627317). I'll paste the 3 current Mami's comments below, including the 2nd from NortherTruthSeeker. I expect for the 'Aleksa' and/or the Consti2tionalist/ExposeSupremacism/Rockclimber/George Jones/Ar Seeus barnyard of sockpuppets to chime in any minute with their usual ad-hom Flip-the-Script-&-Project spew.


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Pat Colo (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13211839490699366177) said...
Rodney @ 10:20:

"... and you have ran a show, and operated a show, with high class; and you've built the show with a tremendous audience and following, without the need of personal attacks, and tearing down other people; and I think that is very admirable. ..."

Oh dear. Prior to Deanna's Jan 15 'jumping the shark' re Sandy Hoax (ref: http://tinyurl.com/mgoau3j ); I would have completely agreed with Rodney. But not since... :(

Critiquing Deanna's relentless ad-hom character attacks against Sandy Hoax investigator Wolfgang Halbig:
http://tinyurl.com/kx83ghs
March 12, 2014 at 8:55 PM



https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif (https://www.blogger.com/delete-comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=9084235908263183215) https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif Northerntruthseeker (http://www.blogger.com/profile/01460283381824437109) said...
Deanna Spingola? Who is she? I used to remember someone named Spingola that actually believed in fighting for the truth, but the person I see here is nothing more than a shadow of that person.

Rodney, You are doing a great job with your work, but you will only drag yourself down with any association with this person who shockingly thinks that anyone who searches for the real truth has an "agenda".
March 12, 2014 at 10:09 PM



https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif Pat Colo (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13211839490699366177) said...
Rodney @ 51:00:

"... Okay, the actors. Show me where they're at! Find me a film credit! Find me, a Hollywood film, where they were an extra, whatever; show me where they live in Newtown, show me! They have not been able to do that Deanna. Their case is so pathetic. ..."

An Intellius search turns up a 62 year old Gene Rosen residing in Newtown with the Screen Actors Guild on his resume. 49 seconds; switch to full-screen to read text:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONAcNjoPo9M

video: Information surfaces that Sandy Hook witness Gene Rosen is FEMA
http://www.dailypaul.com/274050/video-information-surfaces-that-sandy-hook-witness-gene-rosen-is-fema

GENE ROSEN, CEO of Charter Communications Cable Advisory Council
http://www.cableadvisorycouncil.com/towns/index.htm

Did y'all see this? lol: Gene Rosen performs his sick act for Mexican TV Univision-IN SPANISH!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZP3-s0o7po

Sorry Rodney, but it's the Pro-Jewish-Sandy-Hoax-Story tribe's case which is "so pathetic". To wit, on her
http://www.spingola.com/CensorshipOperation.html
webpage, Delphi-Deanna™ uses the word "report" eighteen (18) times, in reference to zion.gov's official S.Hoax report, in "making her case" that Sandy Hoax took place as the Jewish controlled gov and media have purported, lol.
http://i.imgur.com/XLTJQbd.jpg

Critiquing Deanna's Sunday Mar 9 RBN show:
http://tinyurl.com/k85oprf
March 12, 2014 at 11:04 PM



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Off hand, I would only add, CRISIS ACTORS: Trained Players and Actors Making it Real (http://crisisactors.org/).


And Amanda's thread, Thread: Hollywoodization of Terror, News, Media Fakery, Hoaxes (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?76279-Hollywoodization-of-Terror-News-Media-Fakery-Hoaxes); wherein I've posted about BBC's hoaxing up a fake Eeeevil Assad incendiary bombed a SCHOOL!:o (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?76279-Hollywoodization-of-Terror-News-Media-Fakery-Hoaxes&p=695609&viewfull=1#post695609) "news" segment; and "Amputee actors train soldiers for combat (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?76279-Hollywoodization-of-Terror-News-Media-Fakery-Hoaxes&p=695610&viewfull=1#post695610)", which I speculate depicts "Jeff Bauman" at 1:02.


But alas, Delphi-Deanna™ still has to stick with her prior Boston=Hoax position, putting her ever-so-awkwardly at ODDS with MCP & his/CIA's super-persuasive false flags book, coz she already sort of locked herself into that awkward position with the McGowan (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=695379&viewfull=1#post695379) & Dr. K interviews (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=695388&viewfull=1#post695388) above where she was in such vocal agreement re the Boston hoax. And just read that first DS transcription in the OP here (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=685602&viewfull=1#post685602), taken from her initial Jan 15 S.Hoax show, how twisted & baffling her "logic" is wrt why she thinks they hoaxed boston, but not S.Hoax! http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/300%20%2820%29.gif

[PatColo]

I've just posted to Mami's comments (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=5799974980689627317) for the Mar 12 RM/DS show above:




Pat Colo (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13211839490699366177) said...
I've sort of been waiting for Delphi-Deanna™ to wave around the recently published New Yorker article alleging to be based on several interviews with the mysterious & elusive Peter Lanza. The same Peter Lanza whose spokesman is top PR flack & NY Democratic Party operative, Errol Cockfield Jr.
http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/01/28/lanza-spokesman-was-top-ny-democratic-party-operative

The author of the New Yorker's Peter Lanza propaganda piece is Andrew Solomon, the son of Howard Solomon, the (former as of Dec '13) CEO of pharmaceutical giant Forest Laboratories. Andrew is not only a Big Pharma happy-pill addict; he's also a CFR member.

March 12, 2014: The Sandy Hook-Psychopharma Connection
http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/12/the-sandy-hook-psychopharma-connection

It has been reported that Adam Lanza was prescribed Lexapro to deal with his issues, but stopped taking it after several days. The implication is that if only he had taken his medication, perhaps the mass murder could have been prevented.

Sofia Smallstorm has maintained since early last year, that Big Pharma was licking their chops over S.Hoax; coz one foreseeable "Reaction" would be, mandatory "mental health screenings"; and with the hundreds of non-empirically-verifiable "diagnoses" which the shrinks have to choose from, Big Pharma could anticipate a big payday with a flood of new 'scripts for their snake oils. The gist of Andrew Solomon's "Lanza story" conveys the same message.

But Delphi-Deanna™ has routinely smeared S.Hoax researchers, suggesting since her Jan 15 Official Zion.gov S.Hoax Fable advocacy show, that the S.Hoax-skeptics/research community is a likely Sunstein PsyOp, intended to protect & divert scrutiny away from Big Pharma for the mass-murderous/suicidal side effects of their various snake oils! And then Zion.gov orchestrated the Boston Hoax, to take scrutiny away from Sandy Hoax (which was really real just as Zion.gov has purported)!!

I'd say pill-popping Big Pharma/CFR boy Andrew Solomon's New Yorker "Peter Lanza" propaganda piece reveals the Big Pharma Agenda element of the S.Hoax PsyOp, beyond any reasonable doubt. The S.Hoax Gun-Grab Agenda was and IS also in play, of course.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/13/sandy-hook-campaigners-push-gun-control
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-31/connecticut-gun-law-passed-after-sandy-hook-ruled-legal.html

Critique of Delphi-Deanna's™ Mar 12 appearance with Rodney Martin:
http://tinyurl.com/olxkokf

March 13, 2014 at 5:18 AM

[PatColo]

a couple more comments I just posted @ Mami's thread for the 4/9 DS/RM show (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=5799974980689627317);





https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gifPat Colo (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13211839490699366177) said...

A few years old from another blogger; I don't care for them overall so you can joogle it up if you're curious; but they got this about right:

"Credibility Capital"

In the truth movement, the effectiveness of a genuine activist depends on their credibility. This is just as true for dishonest people posing as activists, whose intent is to thwart the exposure of the truth. If one is to mislead people, those people must believe what one is saying. People who lie constantly are seldom believed, and people who almost never lie can get away with a lie here and there-- these occasional lies amount to "spending" one's credibility capital. In the 9/11 truth movement, there are a number of individuals who stand out as "well-known" activists, whistleblowers, or researchers because of their actual accomplishments or simply because they are heavily promoted. At times, those who want the truth to remain hidden feel that the truth movement is coming too close to the real truth (as opposed to the "truth-like" alternatives like LIHOP ) and will spend some credibility capital by having someone who is generally well regarded in the movement promote something unpopular--like a LIHOP scenario. When these ploys backfire they can be very costly and result in an individual's credibility rating to drop, often preciptously.

Deanna had a robust Cred Capital Account going into January 2014, but it took a dive with her 1/15 show proclaiming her belief in the official jooz.gov narrative of their sloppy Sandy Hoax psyop.
http://tinyurl.com/mgoau3j

Her Cred Account continued to decline through her 4/whatever solo shows reading pre-prepared dissertations seeking to 'debunk' Sofia and her S.Hoax video, even laughably suggesting to KJohnson in their show together, that Sofia's 1995 "9/11 Mysteries: Demolitions" video actually supported zion.gov's official 911 story! Nice try, lol
http://tinyurl.com/opf5sjo

Deanna's Cred Capital Account was drawn down to zero with her disgraceful so-called "interview" of Wolfgang Halbig on Mar 4.
http://tinyurl.com/odkvvod

Deanna's been deficit-spending in her Cred Capital Account with the joo credit card ever since; as her ad-hom assassination efforts against Halbig have continued (Suite-Number-Gate Zzzzzzz; dis-characterizing his Feb 11 call in to her show; repeatedly suggesting Halbig is lying about the police visits; suggesting his Child Safety Institute business was a fabrication, yada yada). All to prop up the official jooz.gov story of their sloppy Sandy Hoax charade. :(

Those usurious interest payments to djooz are going to be a bitch.

March 14, 2014 at 8:36 AM




Pat Colo (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13211839490699366177) said...

Another oldie but goodie from that same blogger of dubious repute above who shall go nameless,

How the Fake Truth Movement Operates - a Thumbnail Sketch

The Apparent Principles of the Fake Truth Movement

I) Create 9/11 truth groups, entities, websites, films etc. and volunteer to take on leadership responsibilities.

II) Coordinate with other fake truthers to promote each other, i.e. 911Blogger promoting TruthAction promoting 9/11 Truth News, etc. Also known as creating ostensible diversity that masks actual uniformity.

III) Marginalize people and sites who insist on criticizing the official fake truth line.

IV) Create a fake "enemy truther" with an absurd agenda like Nico Haupt and have him attack you so as to gain sympathy from other truthers and create the impression that you are important and effective because you are the "enemy truther"'s enemy.

V) Further bolster your image as "good truthers" by dropping names and promoting "feelgood" causes like first responder health and glorifying the victims' families.

VI) Incessantly call for "unity" (meaning of course everyone united in agreement with the official fake truth line) and decry those who disagree as "dividers".

VII) When the truther rank and file show independent thinking and all coercive and manipulative tactics fail to "correct" it, go ahead and adapt to the new awareness with as little useful info as possible, i.e. limited hangout. This is necessary because the most important thing is maintaining credibility among newcomers and old timers alike. Whether this means embracing explosive demolition or even some discussion of Israeli complicity the idea is to keep the sheep in the flock from straying out of your sphere of influence and control.

VIII) Over time you will use the credibility you thereby preserve to move everyone back to the accepted line, i.e. LIHOP. You will be assisted in this by folks like Kucinich who will seem to be a great hope, or by shills like Steve Alten who you will also promote as a great hope.

IX) As the movement grows, you continue to pull back from damaging revelations in favor of LIHOP and other limited hangouts by relying on your network of "established (fake) truthers" to give the impression to newbies that those complaining about the retreat from real issues like explosive demolition and Israeli/Zionist involvement are zealots, bigots, etc.

X) Whenever possible, try to rehabilitate and recycle discredited fake truthers.

March 14, 2014 at 8:45 AM

[PatColo]

Spingola did a 3 hour show with 'Nick' aka Bread & Circuses handle at Mamis. Fortunately only the third hour discusses Sandy Hoax... and I think everything I heard, I've already deconstructed above. I simply linked to my reply 71 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=695864&viewfull=1#post695864) above in the Mami's comments for this Nick/Deanna show. Jump to about 1hr 59mins for the top of the SH portion:



Wednesday, March 19, 2014


Special Episode of Circus Maximus with Nick 2014.03.19 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/special-episode-of-circus-maximus-with.html)


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Tonight. Nick from Circus Maximus is filling in. He will be joined by Deanna Spingola (http://www.spingola.com/) host of Spingola Speaks. Deanna’s show airs Tuesdays on AFP (http://americanfreepress.net/) and Sundays on RBN (http://republicbroadcasting.org/). We will be mainly discussing her newest book regarding the Blackstone Memorial (W.E. Blackstone) and breaking down exactly what the implications were from that.

Christian Zionism will be the main focus tonight. We will touch on subjects like British Israelism and quite possibly the New World Religion, the Bahai Faith. Both Nick and Deanna are Chicago inhabitants and understand that the Jewish problem is in our own backyard.


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Posted by zapoper (http://www.blogger.com/profile/15726967138606494466) at 11:32 PM 1 comment: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=5497104247908983041)


There's one aspect of DS's post-Mar-4 treatment of WHalbig which I thought but haven't thus far commented on, so I'll note it here. DS remarked to Nick something I heard her remark before, in Mami's comments if not also verbally in her subsequent shows. She noted that her treatment of WH was different from her usual "interview style", because WH had already been on several alt media shows prior to her Mar 4 "interview" with him, and he always had a fellow SHoax-skeptic host who never questioned anything WH said. So, said DS, she was determined not to let him "dominate" the discussion in their 3/4 show.


What DS hasn't said, was that beginning with her initial, solo 1/15 show "coming out on SHoax", and her 3/4 interview with WH, she had done at least SEVEN (7) shows (listed below), either solo (6 of the 7) where she simply read aloud pre-prepared dissertations supportive of the official Joosh SHoax narrative, or with a fellow-advocate of the Joosh SHoax narrative like KJohnson (or MCP on 12/26, prior to her own 1/15 show announcing her support of the Joosh narrative of SHoax):





Thursday, Deanna ~ Sandy Hook (3) (http://spingolaspeaks.wordpress.com/2014/02/20/thursday-deanna-sandy-hook-3/) (Feb 20- Part 3 of DS's attack on Sofia's SH video)

The Spingola Zone at AFP 2/18/2014 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-spingola-zone-2182014.html) (Part 2 of DS's attack on Sofia's SH video)

On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americanfreepress/2014/02/11/the-spingola-zone), on the same day that Halbig emailed me, on my AFP program, which broadcast from 2-4pm (CST), I presented Part 1 (http://www.spingola.com/Unraveling1.html) of my critique on Sofia Smallstorm's video: Sofia Smallstorm Unraveling Sandy Hook (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1yfJDCMU64) During my program, Halbig called into the program and strongly suggested that I stop critiquing Smallstorm's video as it was a waste of airtime; hear that sound-bite here (http://www.spingola.com/HalbigCall211.mp3)

Wednesday, Keith Johnson (http://spingolaspeaks.wordpress.com/2014/02/05/wednesday-keith-johnson/) (Feb 5)

Thursday, Deanna ~ Sandy Hook (2) (http://spingolaspeaks.wordpress.com/2014/01/23/thursday-deanna-sandy-hook-2/) (Jan 23)

On Tuesday, January 21, 2014: On my AFP program, I talked about Sandy Hook (http://www.spingola.com/SandyHook.html)

Wednesday, Deanna ~ Sandy Hook (http://spingolaspeaks.wordpress.com/2014/01/15/wednesday-deanna-sandy-hook/) (Jan 15)





and this 12/26 show with guest MCPiper, which was a 2 hr MCP rant against JFetzer, JFriend, & SHoax skepticism:





On Thursday, December, 26, 2013, I interviewed Michael Collins Piper (http://mikepiperreport.com/), the author of Final Judgment (http://www.amazon.com/dp/0935036539), talks about his book, False Flags, Template for Terror (http://www.barnesreview.org/false-flags-template-for-terror-p-623.html)




But DS has repeatedly claimed that prior to their 3/4 "interview", that WH had done multiple shows in which he was unchallenged by the host, and therefore she "wasn't going to let WH dominate the discussion". No mention by DS of her own SEVEN (7) prior SHoax shows beginning Jan 15; with 6 of them SOLO.


So rather than letting WH "dominate the discussion" on Mar 4; DS again portraying herself as VICTIM™ while again trying to project that accusation onto WH, dominated the show herself instead, interrupting WH relentlessly; absurdly denying that she was seeking to discredit WH, and did around 80% of the talking herself, largely trying to play "GOTCHA" wrt WH's resume (items unrelated to his WH questions). :(


See fuller critique of this 3/4 "interview" in reply 54 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=695007&viewfull=1#post695007) above.

[PatColo]

RE ^ reply 81; a Mami's mod who didn't identify them self (like via a new comment)*, deleted at least 4 of the 5 comments (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=5497104247908983041) which had been posted since I last checked about 2 hours ago. 3 were made by me! The only comment left atm is from the troll 'Aleksa'.

*EDIT: offending Mami's mod appears to have been "zapopper", as he since commented & closed the thread to further comments.

Here's the 4 removed comments; notice my 2nd one here is a shortened version of my reply 81 above:





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Re the Sandy Hoax discussion beginning around the 2 hour mark, my critique:
http://tinyurl.com/kx83ghs
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Pat Colo (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13211839490699366177) said...
Deanna @ 2:20:50:
"[...] Well, he's [W.Halbig] been on everybody's program; he's been on Alex Jones', he's been on so many programs, and nobody challenges anything he says. [...]"

Funny, Deanna keeps bemoaning this "observation", and how she wasn't going to let WH "monopolize the conversation" with her on their Mar 4 SH "interview". However, what DS hasn't reminded listeners, was that beginning with her initial solo 1/15 show proclaiming her advocacy of the Joo SHoax narrative, and her 3/4 interview with WH; she had done at least SEVEN (7) SHoax shows (listed below), either SOLO (6 of the 7 shows) or with a fellow-advocate of the Joo SHoax narrative like KJohnson.

Jan 15: DS's initial SHoax show, solo.
Jan 21: DS's 2nd SHoax show, solo.
Jan 23: DS's 3rd SHoax show, solo.
Jan 25: Guest was fellow-advocate of the Joo SHoax narrative, KJohnson.
Feb 11: DS's 5th SHoax show, solo.
Feb 18: DS's 6th SHoax show, solo.
Feb 20: DS's 7th SHoax show, solo.

So rather than letting WH "dominate the discussion" on Mar 4; DS again portraying herself as VICTIM™ while again trying to project that accusation onto WH, dominated the show herself instead, interrupting WH relentlessly; absurdly denying that she was seeking to discredit WH, and did around 80% of the talking herself, largely trying to play "GOTCHA" wrt WH's resume (items like Suite-Number-Gate, unrelated to his SH questions).

More, incl links to all the shows listed above, at http://tinyurl.com/q8dza2f
March 20, 2014 at 7:36 AM
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https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gifAr Seeus (http://www.blogger.com/profile/10245961994740692496) said...
Who is this rambling lunatic writing nonsense? Oh, it's Pat Colo. Go figure.

Hey Pat:

Prove to me Israel loving Halbig is not a jew. He sure whines like one and it is he that is claiming that he is a victim yet you're trying to turn it around on Deanna?

You Sandy Hoaxers make me laugh out loud. You so funny!
March 20, 2014 at 7:54 AM




https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gifPat Colo (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13211839490699366177) said...
Hey ArSeeus/Consti2tionalist/ExposeSupremacism/Rockclimber/George Jones:

Very joowey of you asking me to "prove a negative".

What's LOL funny is you Joo SHoax narrative cheerleaders, trying to ad-hom WH based upon his (misguided/deceived) support of izzy. I guess you're hoping SHoax skeptics won't notice YOUR SUPPORT of the JOO-SHhoax narrative, by (trying futilely to) deflect attention instead towards WH's being joozmedia brainwashed on izzy/zio-myths, same as most 'murkans?

So WH isn't joo-wise... what's DS & your (&Aleksa's) excuse? lol
March 20, 2014 at 8:22 AM

[PatColo]

Another DS interview today shilling for the official zionist SHoax narrative. Guests are Keith Johnson and simply "Wade". I've just started listening; and all 3 participants are allegedly going to answer WHalbig's "16 Questions"-- and so far it sounds like the same old tact, namely citing the official zionist reports and ziomedia news stories. I don't think I'll make it through this 2 hour MP3; too annoying! I think I'll jump ahead to the "bottom of the 3rd hour" (actually about 1h 40min in this comm-free version of the MP3), in hopes that they get some callers who challenge their spew.
EDIT: I listened to the "bottom of the 3rd hour" (1hr 40mins), and tellingly, they take NO CALLERS. I wonder how many callers were in the queue, waiting for DS to take them as she promised at the opening, and again at the top of the 3rd hour (1hr 20mins in the mp3)??

I hate to link to mami's for the MP3 link,
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/spingola-speaks-20140330.html
but since mami's banned my home IP last week (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?60988-great-truth-radio-podcast-blog-no-commercials!&p=698738&viewfull=1#post698738), I can still access via proxy server; but the proxy changes every link on the page to one going through their server, and I haven't figured out how to get around this. Anyone? It's a telling indictment of mami's that they have key mods who censor/ban articulate voices critical of the official zionist SHoax story! You can check the link above to see the mami's comments for the show-- if you see a critical comment, check back later and see if it hasn't been removed/censored by mami's mods? :(

Much more interesting than this latest DS show above, was the latest Dennis Fetcho show with guest john kaminski, who comes on at around 1hr 15mins, through the end of the 2hr show:
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/dennis-fetcho-inside-eye-live-20140329.html
where beginning around 1h 25mins, they talk SHoax and the untenable position taken by DS, KJ, MCP & MG; with Fetcho even saying he scratched his head to the point of bleeding, confounded by DS's new position on SHoax. They note the oddity of these 4 prominent alt-media voices (they forgot Hesham Tillawi, who I never listen to...), and how they're all so vehement about supporting the official zionist SHoax story... and implying without saying, that they've been gotten to... hear hear!!

Otherwise, there was this recent Fetzer show on SHoax:
Monday, March 24, 2014


Kelley from Tulsa and Kate Slate (http://nwopodcast.com/fetz/media/jim%20fetzer%20real%20deal-kate%20slate%20and%20kelly%20from%20tulsa.mp3)

^ MP3 link

Sandy Hook
Posted by Total at 9:13 PM 28 comments: (http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2014/03/kelly-from-tulsa-and-kate-slate.html#comment-form)

[PatColo]

Another DS interview today shilling for the official zionist SHoax narrative. Guests are Keith Johnson and simply "Wade". I've just started listening; and all 3 participants are allegedly going to answer WHalbig's "16 Questions"-- and so far it sounds like the same old tact, namely citing the official zionist reports and ziomedia news stories. I don't think I'll make it through this 2 hour MP3; too annoying! I think I'll jump ahead to the "bottom of the 3rd hour" (actually about 1h 40min in this comm-free version of the MP3), in hopes that they get some callers who challenge their spew.
EDIT: I listened to the "bottom of the 3rd hour" (1hr 40mins), and tellingly, they take NO CALLERS. I wonder how many callers were in the queue, waiting for DS to take them as she promised at the opening, and again at the top of the 3rd hour (1hr 20mins in the mp3)??

I hate to link to mami's for the MP3 link,
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/spingola-speaks-20140330.html
but since mami's banned my home IP last week (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?60988-great-truth-radio-podcast-blog-no-commercials!&p=698738&viewfull=1#post698738), I can still access via proxy server; but the proxy changes every link on the page to one going through their server, and I haven't figured out how to get around this. Anyone? It's a telling indictment of mami's that they have key mods who censor/ban articulate voices critical of the official zionist SHoax story! You can check the link above to see the mami's comments for the show-- if you see a critical comment, check back later and see if it hasn't been removed/censored by mami's mods? :(


I managed to post the following reply to shill "George Jones", check HERE (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/spingola-speaks-20140330.html) to see how long it lasts before a mami's mod deletes it,




https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gifGeorge Jones (http://www.blogger.com/profile/06687074513834015453) said...
buelahman said...
I even believed the official 9-11 story once upon a time lol

"And you still apparently believe in the official Sandy Hook story."

"Telling."

Excuse me? Did you even listen to this? They carefully answered each question that HalBIG posed and furthermore deconstructed the fallacies put forth by the hoaxers. If you have a problem call in Deanna or Keith's show and confront them with your concerns. (but you won't)
March 31, 2014 at 10:54 PM



https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gifPat Colo (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13211839490699366177) said...
"Excuse me? Did you even listen to this? They carefully answered each question that HalBIG posed and furthermore deconstructed the fallacies put forth by the hoaxers."

They ran their same old worn out shtick; propping up djooz & your official SHoax narrative, by ref'ing djooz.gov "official reports" & djooz.media.gov "news" stories... pretending these "sources" are holier than the talmud itself! Zzzzz.

"If you have a problem call in Deanna or Keith's show and confront them with your concerns. (but you won't)"

Tellingly, DS took NO CALLERS. I wonder how many callers were in the queue, waiting for DS to fulfill her promise at the opening (said she'd take calls in the third hour) and again at the top of the 3rd hour (said she'd take calls beginning BOTTOM of the 3rd hour)?! So what happened in this last half hour? They continued to blow-hard through the end of the show, ignoring DS's promises to take callers! Actually taking random unknown callers, could end up jeopardizing their talmudic shtick, after all!! lol

http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/dennis-fetcho-inside-eye-live-20140329.html

^ beginning about 1hr 23mins, Fetcho & Kaminski talk SHoax and the laughably untenable position taken by DS, KJ, MCP & MG; with Fetcho even saying he scratched his head to the point of bleeding, confounded by DS's new position on SHoax. They note the oddity of these 4 prominent alt-media voices so vehement about supporting djooz' official SHoax story... and implying without saying, that they've been gotten to... hear hear!!

"Forum Shill gets Busted: ATS and GLP Censor to Cover his Tracks"
http://www.insanemedia.net/forum-shill-gets-busted-ats-and-glp-censor-n-7015a/2924

Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story
March 31, 2014 at 11:57 PM

[Jerrylynnb]

PatColo, If you get a chance to listen to the first hour of the Pete Santilli show (Rense radio) from this afternoon, you can hear a half hour interview with Deanna about Sandy Hook. I'd be interested in what you think about this interview.

[PatColo]

U mean the 3/31 show? It's the last rense has posted, http://renseradioarchives.com/petesantilli

I d/l'd the first hour, no Delphi-Deanna.

I don't really care for sanshilly, bad actor,


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[Glass]

Pat,

things are getting pretty nasty there. There's a lot of these flying about (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=pejorative). you take care. and be careful who you let sidle up to you. even from here. I'm smelling something a bit too sweet around here. Doesn't sit well with me. There are always new personas coming in here who have been here before. but that there is a different ball game.

[Jerrylynnb]

PatColo, I agree with you about Santilli, but, he has a regular guest on his 3rd hour sometimes who seems level headed and I listen to him at times (I don't remember his name). It must have been the 3rd hour when I heard Deanna for the first half hour, and then the regular guest after that. The thing about the interview Santilli had with Deanna was that Pete was very polite and respectful in his interview style with Deanna, and she exhibited no hostility - it allowed for a clearing of the air, so to speak.

What I got from it was that Deanna actually started out believing the Sandy Hook story first, and she uses the "reports" as confirmation, really, but, she misleads us to believe that it is BECAUSE of the "reports" that she believes it. She seems to be blinded by her own conviction, and, I have lost interest in listening to her anymore. She was such a probing researcher in other areas, but, with Sandy Hook, she seems to have fallen apart as far as her investigative instincts. Santilli asked her if she was a "sandy Hook Believer", and, she replied that she was a "truth seeker".

Santilli pointed out several incorrect assumptions she was making, but he did it very politely and Deanna responded, in a similar polite manner, so that a listener could garner from the interview that either a) Deanna has been blinded by some fundamental aversion to the idea of children being abused, or b) she has been "gotten to" and is hiding it from her listeners. I used to be a listener, because of her many areas of probing investigation, but, this turn of events with respect to Sandy Hook has left me disillusioned with Deanna and I no longer care to listen to her programs any more.

I was hoping you would maybe have some insight after hearing the exchange between Santilli and Deanna. During the interview, Pete brought up the holohoax and Hitler, and, Deanna resumed her normal stance, saying it was an example of "Hollywood at their best", which left Pete miffed somewhat, but, the conversation quickly returned to the Sandy Hook imbroglio. It was as if Deanna snapped out of her "trance" when not discussing Sandy Hook, and you got to see the Deanna we have all come to like and respect, but, when they returned to Sandy Hook, she resumed her new and illogical attitude - this is something I wouldn't have expected after hearing Deanna for the last two years.

Very disappointing. If you get around to hearing it, I'd like your insight - I've followed your posts over at mami's and here and I think you got it spot on. I just can't get over seeing Deanna get so out of character over this Sandy Hook nonsense. I wonder if her many listeners are as disillusioned over this as I am. There just has to be a logical answer to this turn of events.

[Horn]

I wonder if her many listeners are as disillusioned over this as I am. There just has to be a logical answer to this turn of events.

I think the prescription drug end of it is very real for many people. They see the resultant damage of them in their own lives knowing too close the effects of bigpharma on their relatives and others close to them.

When they see pharmaceutical companies being protected from such "disinfo." or unreleased info in the msm, they automatically assume the rest of the story proper.

[Amanda]

...this turn of events with respect to Sandy Hook has left me disillusioned with Deanna and I no longer care to listen to her programs any more... I just can't get over seeing Deanna get so out of character over this Sandy Hook nonsense. I wonder if her many listeners are as disillusioned over this as I am. There just has to be a logical answer to this turn of events.

Well, for what it's worth, I also used to listen to Deanna a lot over the past two years, but completely stopped after she flipped and started aggressively promoting the jewish media version of Sandy Hook. And I know of several others who have also stopped listening to her. I'm still trying to make sense of why she changed her stance on Sandy Hook. When it initially happened, she was questioning it like the rest of us. On her schedule page for back in 2012, you can see that on 12/31 she linked to "31 Interesting Questions about Newtown Shootings" and the Robbie Parker video, with him laughing as he went up to the microphone. She also did a show with Dr. K (maybe back in May or April 2013), who went over Sandy Hook hoax and the Boston bombing hoax, and she never indicated any disagreement with the idea that these events were hoaxes. Spingola also did a show w/Dave McGowan on the Boston marathon bombing being a hoax, and, if I recall correctly, she asked him if he had had a chance to look at Sandy Hook (with the implication being that that was a hoax as well). Everything seemed to change last November after she read Michael Collins Piper's latest book, which apparently goes along with the official narrative on Sandy Hook and Boston, and suggests that those of us who see those two events as hoaxes have somehow been manipulated by Cass Sunstein. I was in her chatroom when she had MCP on to talk about the JFK assassination and his new book, and it was quite obvious that, by that time, she had completely changed her stance SH and was now totally in agreement with MCP. And her personality changed as well, as she was quite rude and obnoxious toward me in the chat. I think I made a couple of complimentary remarks about MCP's work on JFK, but then added that "MCP doesn't get the hoax element." Well, she kind of went on the attack after I made that remark and she repeatedly (in a bit of a harassing and obnoxious manner) put in the chat "have you read his book? Have you read his book?" And I kept having to tell her politely that I didn't need to read his book b/c I had already listened to him on countless radio shows give his take on SH. And, as an educated person, I really don't need a radio host to tell me how to think--I do my own research and figure thing out myself. So, anyway, it just seems as though she was really taken in by MCP's book, which seems rather pathetic b/c Fetzer and Friend did a show on MCP's book, and it sounds as though there's not much to his argument, other than that Devvy Kidd says Sandy Hook hoax theories are crazy (since when did she become some sort of expert on psyops?) and Cass Sunstein talked about infiltrating the truth movement (as if this is some sort of ground breaking news--there's always been infiltration).

[PatColo]

Thanks for the strokes, and the meaty reply 88 with show recap Jerrylynnb; maybe I'll just not suffer through the sanshilli/Delphi-Deanna 1/2 hour now! :D Also, she's chimed in @ mami's now, claiming the recent DS/KJ/Wade show had no callers. I'd speculate, it had no listeners by the 3rd hour! Even with my later review of the comm-free mp3, I spent about a cumulative 30-40 mins with it, skipping to the "caller" portion, which ended up not existing.

Oh and guess who she's having on her AFP show beginning in around an hour? (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americanfreepress/2014/04/01/the-spingola-zone)
Deanna's guest today is Wade of Sandy Hook Analysis (http://sandyhookanalysis.blogspot.com) and Sandy Hook Facts (http://sandyhookfacts.com).
I'll be Zzzzzz, will skip though the MP3 later; prolly just seeking the callers portion, if any. Love Wade's "...Facts" nonsense, taking the Delphi-Deanna approach of citing djooz.media.gov's official reports & "news" stories as the SOURCE of all TRULY TRUE & FACTUAL TRUTH! ;D

Earlier in this thread Amanda & I were discussing Delphi's shows last year with Dr. K & McGowan; find links to both shows mp3s here (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=695388&viewfull=1#post695388).

this article from 12/29/13 contains a link to MCP/CIA's "False Flags" book as pdf near the end of the article portion. He even tips us off on what chapters to read, which I haven't done myself, plan to later; but U might be interested in reading the "case" in favor of zion.gov's SHoax story which MCP/CIA made in the book, which DS proclaims "convinced her" lol.

Sandy Hook: Hoax or Truth? Tracy, Smallstorm, & Fetzer vs. Michael Collins Piper (http://ajmacdonaldjr.wordpress.com/2013/12/29/sandy-hook-hoax-or-truth-tracy-smallstorm-fetzer-vs-michael-collins-piper/)



http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by PatColo http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?p=695380#post695380) The 3/4 Spingola so-called "interview" show with Halbig comments @ Mamis (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=2509190206013096376) have gone pretty much silent now, at 40 comments. So I moved up a couple of my unanswered questions for Spingola, to the latest Halbig interview thread comments (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=2936394322765463379).
[...]




I just thought to recheck that ^ comment thread; there's a new one just posted Mar 29:



Recynd (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13425516361394584072) said...

I realize I'm late to the party, but how, exactly, was this an interview? The host did the majority of the talking (and rudely at that)! I am not a Halbig supporter (nor am I an opponent; only time will tell about Mr. Halbig's motives), but he was treated VERY poorly by the interviewer. This wasn't a "hard-hitting interview" that "asked the tough questions", it was a hack job to support a personal agenda!

One does not have to be nudged, hypnotized, or highly suggestible to see that there is something incredibly fishy with the official SH narrative. I figured that out on my own, from mainstream sources and government reports. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, Spingola's "debunking" of Smallstorm's work (as well as this interview with Halbig) relies heavily on cherry-picking, vague insinuation, misunderstanding, and suggestions of her own. Never does Spingola address the most relevant points or questions that "Hoaxers" have!

How I WISH someone would debunk Hoaxers' suspicions...but as of yet, no one has. I, for one, would not require "beyond a shadow of a doubt" evidence for my mind to be changed, but SOME evidence--ANY evidence--would be nice. How sad that it's come to this...but isn't THAT the point? I'm NOT a ghoul who relishes in the misery of others, but I'm not a sucker either. I don't hold others to a higher standard than I hold myself, either. If I had been caught in as many lies as our government has, I would certainly not expect anyone to take my word for anything.

Simply put (borrowing from an Adam Sandler movie), I am actually more stupid for having listened to the Spingola's Halbig interview. Thanks for nothing.

March 29, 2014 at 4:29 PM

[PatColo]

The Spingola Zone at AFP 4/1/2014 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-spingola-zone-at-afp-412014.html)



Deanna's guest today is Wade of Sandy Hook Analysis (http://sandyhookanalysis.blogspot.com/) and Sandy Hook Facts (http://sandyhookfacts.com/).
Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting Reports (http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/)

Show-page (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americanfreepress/2014/04/01/the-spingola-zone)
American Free Press (https://americanfreepress.net/)
The Barnes Review (http://www.barnesreview.org/)



Download (http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/6/141/show_6141291.mp3)


Posted by WHOOLI (http://www.blogger.com/profile/12745432266860223770) at 8:41 PM 1 comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=8935837611422652260)


First & only comment there ^ atm is from me; check the link to see if mami's censors it:



Pat Colo (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13211839490699366177) said...
Mami's rightly doesn't post Sanshilli shows, but Deanna did the first half hour on Sanshilli's show on Monday.
http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/pete_santilli/hr3033114.mp3

Sanshilli's was the first Deanna interview I've heard who's challenged her on her complete blind faith & reliance on djooz.gov's "official reports" & "news" stories, in supporting her proclaimed S.Hoax beliefs. Deanna gave some quite absurd "responses", lol. 2nd half hour there, Patrick Henningson comes on, and they talk a bit of S.Hoax too.

Also if you missed it:
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/dennis-fetcho-inside-eye-live-20140329.html

^ beginning about 1hr 23mins, Fetcho & Kaminski talk SHoax and the laughably untenable position taken by DS, KJ, MCP & MG; with Fetcho even saying he scratched his head to the point of bleeding, confounded by DS's position on SHoax. They note the oddity of these 4 prominent alt-media voices, so vehemently trying to prop up djooz' official SHoax story...

Latest updates at "Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story" begin here: http://tinyurl.com/ptlqw8f


April 2, 2014 at 12:07 AM





Also note several new replies in the "Spingola Speaks 2014.03.30" comments" (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/spingola-speaks-20140330.html), incl me spanking the S.Hoax Shill-A-Thon cabal. :cool:

[Jerrylynnb]

Horn,

I'm not playing dumb here, because I think I've heard something about the drug thing and Sandy Hook elsewhere - but I really can't see the relevance. I have had more than one very heartbreaking situations in my own family with prescription drugs, and, I am always on the lookout for a anything exposing the horrendous agenda by these drug pushers, but, I can't for the life of me see how this fits into the Sandy Hook thing - please explain it, if you don't mind, in terms a dummy like me can understand. They claim a teenager broke into a grade school and shot up a whole bunch of students and teachers - but they have no video of anybody crashing through the front door - that right there makes me suspect they are hiding something and I can't swallow that they didn't have a security camera recording people that come and go from the front door. It is like the confiscation of all videos around the pentagon on 9/11 - not credible that a video showing what happen isn't available. But how does the evil agenda of prescription drugs fit into this Sandy Hook scenario and what are they hiding from us and WHY?

[Horn]

Its a repetitive theme that is easily sold.

http://www.infowars.com/fanapt-hoax-hides-real-connection-between-shooters-and-ssri-drugs/

I think most that buy it assume that children were actually murdered there, though has that even been proven as a fact though?

To any of them that do specifically in Sandy Hook's case, a direct question with regards to gun rights should clear up whether or not they truly are jumping then riding the shark.

[PatColo]

First & only comment there ^ atm is from me; check the link to see if mami's censors it:

DOH! While mami's hasn't (YET) censored my comment ref'd in #92 above; they DID just censor the following comment, formerly the 5th comment in this thread (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=8935837611422652260):



Pat Colo (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13211839490699366177) said...
"Too much fluoride and cognitive dissonance." ---> Too much Delphi-Marinated-Sunstein™ in the belly, with the 26 Rules for dessert, lol.
http://www.911truth.org/newcm/twenty-five-rules-of-disinformation
The 26th Rule, you ask? It's djooz' #1 favorite of all: the trusty Flip-The-Script-And-Project gambit:
http://tinyurl.com/kx83ghs

Speaking of same; zap: RE your "obsession" obsession, following is the meaning of "obsession":

List of Deanna's Joo-SHoax-Story re-bunking shows:
Jan 15: DS's 1st SHoax show, solo.
Jan 21: DS's 2nd SHoax show, solo.
Jan 23: DS's 3rd SHoax show, solo.
Jan 25: DS's 4th SHoax show, guest was fellow-advocate of the Joo SHoax story KJohnson.
Feb 11: DS's 5th SHoax show, solo.
Feb 18: DS's 6th SHoax show, solo.
Feb 20: DS's 7th SHoax show, solo.
Mar 4: DS's 8th SHoax show, the disgraceful Halbig "interview" reviewed at http://tinyurl.com/odkvvod
Mar 9: DS's 9th SHoax show, solo 1st hour.
Mar 30: DS's 10th SHoax show, guests KJohnson & Wade.
Mar 31: DS's 11th SHoax 'appearance', was Sanshilli's guest, topic ~90% SHoax.
Apr 1: DS's 12th SHoax show, guest Wade.

OBSESSION ^

But you Deanna/Joo-SHoax-Story fanboys & girls here don't want to see it in yourselves; you prefer to try to Flip-The-Script-And-Project, ad-hom'ing your own affliction towards myself and other S.Hoax critics.
http://www.boredportal.com/files/pictures/BoredPortal.com_Jew-Jitsu.jpg

I was one of Deanna's biggest fanboys; her credibility-capital was A-1+. But that has collapsed beginning with her Jan 15 show, and it's only grown more shrill & disturbing since.

Incidentally, a pdf of MCP/CIA's "False Flags" book, which Deanna claims convinced her on SHoax (though NOT Boston, ?!), is linked at the end of this article:

http://ajmacdonaldjr.wordpress.com/2013/12/29/sandy-hook-hoax-or-truth-tracy-smallstorm-fetzer-vs-michael-collins-piper

April 2, 2014 at 6:27 AM

[PatColo]

Also, mami's censored my (formerly) 28th reply from this thread (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=7292368103607429277)... while the ad-homs against me comments from the Joo-SHoax-Story-Huggerhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 trolls remain. Comment was (the url I pointed zap to will just land at the top of the page now, since the exact comment it pointed to, reprinted in my #95 above, is now censored) :



Pat Colo (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13211839490699366177) said...
zap: I expect you'll see it but just in case,
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-spingola-zone-at-afp-412014.html?showComment=1396434478027#c90722768139 91003237

1776: your silly ad-hom barrage hasn't made the 16 questions go anywhere... ;)

And your "...but to claim everything is a hoax..." bit is a fun looking Straw Man; you gonna b/f it first before beating the Straw out of it? Hey, wear yourself out man, lol.

Beep: I repeat:

"Why did I already intuit that you'd dodge/play-dumb on the question? I want to hear your SOURCE for your claim that "Smallstorm has repudiated [Halbig and] his "16 questions". " It's the "16 questions" part I want sourced, Beep... duh! Let's all watch how artfully Beep dodges it this time..."

^ That.

April 2, 2014 at 7:01 AM

[PatColo]

Horn,

I'm not playing dumb here, because I think I've heard something about the drug thing and Sandy Hook elsewhere - but I really can't see the relevance. [...]

From Prof Tracy:



March 12, 2014 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/12/the-sandy-hook-psychopharma-connection/)
The Sandy Hook-Psychopharma Connection (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/12/the-sandy-hook-psychopharma-connection/) 143 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/12/the-sandy-hook-psychopharma-connection/#comments)

Guest Posts (http://memoryholeblog.com/category/guest-posts/) • Tags: propaganda (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/propaganda/), Public Opinion (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/public-opinion/), Sandy Hook Elementary (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/sandy-hook-elementary/), social engineering (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/social-engineering/)
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQGUw62skrZjadr3naGV6Q-39RcOPPCUZhmhyh_7kvOGCuMpzsLLg
By Tony Mead*

There is a possibility that Peter and Adam Lanza never existed. There is, for example, limited evidence of their lives before 2009. Do you want to know who does exist ? The author of a 7,600 word article (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/03/17/140317fa_fact_solomon?currentPage=all) that is supposedly based on several interviews with Peter Lanza.
More… (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/12/the-sandy-hook-psychopharma-connection/#more-9885)




Gist is, New Yorker propaganda article alleging to have interviewed Peter Lanza, notes how the imaginary Adam wasn't taking his meds... leaving it to appear his meds would have prevented the make-believe tragedy. Solution? Mandatory mental health screening, which big pharma will be licking their chops over! :(

Keeping on topic with this thread; you'll read in the OP (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story), Delphi-Deanna (Sunstein-Spingola?o)(~) absurdly suggested that the whole S.Hoax truth movement may really just be a big "Sunstein Op", to take scrutiny off of big pharma's deadly drugs... coz you see, no one really died at S.Hoax... or some shit like that? :|~

[Amanda]

Here's Spingola's comment on to her latest Sandy Hook show with Wade (posted here: http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-spingola-zone-at-afp-412014.html). Apparently, she seems to feel that those of us who see Sandy Hook as a HOAX owe an apology for "deliberate deceptions."

Deanna (http://www.blogger.com/profile/05963058800259904712) said...
Pat Colo, MCP's book did not convince me of anything regarding Sandy Hook. Looking at the evidence convinced me. During the time frame that you cite, 12 programs on Sandy Hook out of 63 hardly constitutes an obsession. Now if you wish to discuss obsessions, let's talk about your obsession/job to discredit me. I have never visited the web site that you designed to bash me as I assume it is all about character assassination and has nothing to do with the real SH issues. As for my other critics who used to like my work but now question it because they disagree with my position on SH, I must ask, have you done any real research or have you relied on Smallstorm, Fetzer, Halbig and Alex Jones for your views. Perhaps you are just following the example of your great leader, Fetzer, who, in his recent email, is distancing himself from Smallstorm just because she has questions about the very notable questioner, Wolfgang W. Halbig, whose questions have been repeatedly answered. Suddenly, it seems that she has lost all validity with Fetzer. I have reiterated my reasons for looking at SH here: http://www.spingola.com/Background.html As far as people feeling sorry for Halbig because of my hard questions - he knew exactly what he was doing when he accepted my invitation and played his cards to look like the poor little victim. Listening to that program requires independent thinking. On the other hand, I had no idea what I was getting into when I accepted Santilli's invitation but I am a big girl and am not going to cry about it. Regarding SH, to the critics, I say, what if it were one of your children that was murdered in a mass shooting? Would you like to be accused of being an actor? I am always going to side with the children. I have always said that if I find out that it was a hoax, I will apologize. I doubt that we will ever see the hoaxers apologize for all of the deliberate deceptions they have used to convince many people of their views and the disreputable opinions that they have given the entire movement.

[PatColo]

Apparently, she seems to feel that those of us who see Sandy Hook as a HOAX owe an apology for "deliberate deceptions."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LcFOyIe_jc

[Dogman]

What I find disturbing (sp) is the joy some get maybe warping facts and reality or what could be constructed as fact from nothing or conjure.

Must be a bummer to live life with that way. Not everything is wacko.

Crap but have fun! Some things done considering the background will never be public for the family's that do grieve and still have to carry on with life.

Then there are the ones that love picking at scabs!

Be proud!

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Forum Runner

[PatColo]

Jerrylynnb, I listened to Delphi-Deanna's appearance on the Pete Santilli show. For those who missed it, it's the first 23 mins of this MP3 (http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/pete_santilli/hr3033114.mp3); but then the SHoax topic spills into the first several minutes of the next guest's appearance beginning at the bottom of the hour. I would call it must-listening, if you're following along with this saga. Santilli's was the first Deanna interview I've heard who's challenged her on her complete blind faith & reliance on djooz.gov's "official reports" & "news" stories, in supporting her proclaimed S.Hoax beliefs. Deanna gave some quite absurd "responses", lol. Following, I will be transcribing key bits which indicate where Delphi's head is at.





55s: PS: Still, you can't say with absolute certainty that you know what happened with Sandy Hook, right?

1:00 DS: Well, yes, you CAN say exactly what happened, because, they have come out with all the reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, and I have dug through them, other people have dug through them, [...]. The hoaxers would have you believe that THESE PEOPLE ARE ALL LIARS. OR ACTORS, YES!! IS THAT RIDICULOUS (http://crisisactors.org/) OR WHAT?!? EVEN A CHILD COULD SEE IT!! (http://www.amazon.com/Counter-Group-Manipulation-Tactics-Consensus-Building/dp/145051913X)

(http://www.amazon.com/Counter-Group-Manipulation-Tactics-Consensus-Building/dp/145051913X)


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51V1v2IqxzL.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/Counter-Group-Manipulation-Tactics-Consensus-Building/dp/145051913X)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhTqMoccVmY






2:20 PS: So, you've said you read the reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, and, I'm not even going by the conspiracy theories. How do we know that we're to trust those reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018? Can we?

2:33 DS: I think that, yes, I think you can.

4:20 DS: There was a sign, says "EVERYONE MUST CHECK IN HERE". Well that sign in Sofia's video, she implies that that was there on the morning of December 14th. It was not. It was not there on Friday; it was not there on Saturday; it WAS there on TUESDAY, when Megan Kelly interviewed Rosen, Gene Rosen. And, everything was back to normal, relatively back to normal. Schools had resumed, and you could see a bus drive by.






http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Everyone-must-check-in-320x251.jpg






6:40 DS: There are mistakes in the reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, because human beings created the reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018.

6:43 PS: Human beings, and human beings make intentional errors sometimes too, so we have to also consider the other side of the coin. Yeah, that isn't the do all end all be all; the sources of information we have to conduct our research, unfortunately I think are kind of tainted as well.

7:00 DS: Ah, I disagree with respect to these. These are just the, the officers that were there; they talk about what they saw.

7:25 PS: Wolfgang Halbig, is he part of that whole psyop?

7:30 DS: Well, of course, of course.

8:15 DS: And! The SUITE! He said he had a SUITE! At 5703 Red Buck Lake Road. AH, NO, it was just a MAILBOX at the UPS Store!

8:55 PS: Deanna, I'm going to be honest with you. Don't be so trusting of those reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018that are put out there. Because there WAS a conspiracy to do something, we don't know what it is, ...

9:25 DS: The BIG ISSUE, is the psychiatric drug industry, which is very big in Connecticut. [...] I think this whole operation, might be damage control for the psychiatric drug industry (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/12/the-sandy-hook-psychopharma-connection/), which makes billions and billions of dollars each year.





So, Deanna's biggest problem evident from the Santilli show snips I've transcribed above, remains her near-total reliance upon THE REPORTShttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, committing the Fallacy (https://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Appeal_to_authority.html): Appeal to Authority (https://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Appeal_to_authority.html):




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OX21e9SkII
http://i.imgur.com/XLTJQbd.jpg

[Horn]

9:25 DS: The BIG ISSUE, is the psychiatric drug industry, which is very big in Connecticut. [...] I think this whole operation, might be damage control for the psychiatric drug industry (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/12/the-sandy-hook-psychopharma-connection/), which makes billions and billions of dollars each year.




Apparently those drugs can allow a skinny teenage to wield 4 completely different weapons simultaneously with a kill ratio higher than any navy seal.

The fact that no child was left behind injured should be enough to blow her lid away.

The official story is complete absurdity.

[Jerrylynnb]

PatColo, I missed that about "even a child could see it..." - you got a sharp ear to catch that. That is a revealing video compilation (no tears but top-notch "acting" - enough to make me wonder even).

I think you have pretty much nailed Deanna on this, but, she is non-repentant, and even insulting, in her reactions (see Amanda's post #98 on page 10 of this thread). She seems to have dug herself in too deep now for her to find her way back to the old Deanna we were so impressed with for the past two years.

Could she have been blinded by the idea that *children* were slaughtered? So that she would have felt callous about "children being at risk" were she to have questioned the truthfulness too closely, and considered the possibility of it being all, or in part, a hoax? Speculation, yes, but I am struggling for an answer as to what happened to Deanna - dangit! She hosted some great interviews and I'm gonna' miss those.

[Jerrylynnb]

Horn,

This drug slant on Sandy Hook has me very perplexed. I imagine a group of "handlers" sitting in a room somewhere concocting a scheme to get americans to go along with forcing everyone to be psychiatric tested and maybe required to enter drug therapy so as to prevent MASS SHOOTINGS OF CHILDREN by those who need these drugs but are not detected due to lack of screening.

Whoever would dream up such a scheme, and would come up with the Sandy Hook scenario for its implementation , would have to think that we the public are as dumb as rocks! They can't think we are that stupid! Can they? To underestimate the american public to that extent tells me that those bastards are so arrogant, and have such a really low opinion of the relative gullibility of we the public, that it offends me to the bone marrow.

If the Sandy Hook believers are contending that such a group existed, and, promulgated Sandy Hook as per that sort of a plan (testing and drug therapy to prevent mass shooting of children), then, somebody really does need psychiatric help.

Tell me this ain't so, please! Or am I really living in an asylum, where the orderlies and doctors are even more insane than the patients!

[Horn]

Horn,

This drug slant on Sandy Hook has me very perplexed. I imagine a group of "handlers" sitting in a room somewhere concocting a scheme to get americans to go along with forcing everyone to be psychiatric tested and maybe required to enter drug therapy so as to prevent MASS SHOOTINGS OF CHILDREN by those who need these drugs but are not detected due to lack of screening.

There's probably already at least one member out of every 10 households on some type of mood or behavior modification drugs in U.S., (Guess) Only sweeping legislation that removes weapons from those households would be needed.

Mass screenings for mental faculty would come naturally out of that, as its already a major part of gun legislation and permit in much the rest of the world.

Once every couple years you need to be mentally screened or have employment in the armed security field to gain weapons permit in much of the world, No I don't agree with it as it turns the second amendment into a privilege not a right.

[Dogman]

There's probably already at least one member out of every 10 households on some type of mood or behavior modification drugs in U.S., (Guess) Only sweeping legislation that removes weapons from those households would be needed.

Mass screenings for mental faculty would come naturally out of that, as its already a major part of gun legislation and permit in much the rest of the world.

Once every couple years you need to be mentally screened or have employment in the armed security field to gain weapons permit in much of the world, No I don't agree with it as it turns the second amendment into a privilege not a right.think the numbers are higher. Tho one would need to see what is in the medicine box,

From an senioldfartintraining that only takes aspirin every night never had any scripts nor needed them. And I think I maybe a rare one, most I do know have to take handfuls of med's everyday. Tho my status may change someday, aspirin is it.

Many people using physio drugs to cope, with real and imagined shit.

[PatColo]

4:20 DS: There was a sign, says "EVERYONE MUST CHECK IN HERE". Well that sign in Sofia's video, she implies that that was there on the morning of December 14th. It was not. It was not there on Friday; it was not there on Saturday; it WAS there on TUESDAY, when Megan Kelly interviewed Rosen, Gene Rosen. And, everything was back to normal, relatively back to normal. Schools had resumed, and you could see a bus drive by.






http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Everyone-must-check-in-320x251.jpg




Can anyone make sense of this Rosen/sign was Tues Dec 18th assertion? It just came up at Fetzer's blog comments,





buelahman (http://buelahman.wordpress.com/)April 10, 2014 at 12:35 PM (http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2014/04/thomas-gardner.html?showComment=1397158532514#c2926000477 106435277)


Jim,

The blinking "Everyone Must Check In Sign" was from a FoxNews broadcast on Dec 18, 2012 in the America Live segment with Megan Kelly. It was not on the day of the murders.
You can see it at Archive.org

https://archive.org/details/FOXNEWS_20121218_180000_America_Live#start/5760/end/5820

(https://archive.org/details/FOXNEWS_20121218_180000_America_Live#start/5760/end/5820)




Ian Greenhalgh (http://www.blogger.com/profile/10688759161975670079)April 10, 2014 at 3:51 PM (http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2014/04/thomas-gardner.html?showComment=1397170269823#c3974499018 532219241)
Are you sure? I though it was visible behind Gene Rosen when he was being interviewed in the afternoon of the day of the event.






Pat Colo (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13211839490699366177)April 10, 2014 at 7:15 PM (http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2014/04/thomas-gardner.html?showComment=1397182551584#c5116435461 430217625)
I've been trying to make sense of this question too. Why would the sign be there on the following TUESDAY? WHO, and WHY, would they be soliciting check-ins 4 days later? Delphi-Deanna also tries to make hay of (her assertion that) the sign/Rosen-video took place the following Tuesday, too:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=702049&viewfull=1#post702049

But again, WHY TUESDAY? Note the light blue plaid shirt Rosen is wearing in the pic at the link above. Compare with the shirt(s) he's seen wearing under his blue down-feather jacket in a
http://images.google.com
^ google image search for "Gene Rosen Sandy Hook". How do we know which shirt is from which day?

I'd guess if FAUX News played that video the following Tues Dec 18, that is was just a replay of the video of what took place Fri Dec 14, as they were "following the (pretend) story", getting viewers up to speed on events, etc. Rosen, the sign, the commotion behind him, the "school bus driving by" as Delphi noted above... makes no sense that it would've taken place Dec 18. Makes perfect sense that it was Dec 14.

The archive.org video doesn't play for me, only stalls with the circular spinning arrow over the play console.




says it all as far as my 'tude on the question! Granted though, I was unable to watch the archive.org FAUX News video, which may or may not clear up the question.

[PatColo]

I found this one on YT; Kelly's intro and the content suggest it's days later. Esp near the end Gene's pedophilic tendencies are really on display... also says the "darkness into the light" meme a couple times; recall Sofia's video discussed this & it's occult significance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2PCg_ZF1gU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2PCg_ZF1gU


I saw a YT suggesting Gene was in front of a green-screen for that "interview"; I wasn't too impressed with it though! The sunshine/shadow points don't work coz Gene was presumably next to something which fully shaded him. And the supposed irregularities about his head's border vs the background are too ambiguous in a video which is low res anyways. The ACooper's disappearing nose clip was much clearer to see. Here 'tis, judge for yourself,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jViclRKcM7A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jViclRKcM7A

[PatColo]

Cross-posting the following, taken from the main S.Hoax thread (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?65846-new-shooting-Newtown-Conn-details-breaking&p=703616&viewfull=1#post703616), into this Spingola/Shark thread; coz although the official AFP description (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americanfreepress/2014/04/11/in-the-spotlight-with-keith-johnson) doesn't say it, Delphi-Deanna is also on with host KJohnson and guest Wade for the 2 hour podcast.

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I "stomached" 10 mins and that's all I could take, and I put something else on. 10 mins was enough for KJ to screech about skeptics as Sunstein disinfo agents, exonerating mass-murderer Lanza, only a matter of time before one of these skeptics shoots a victim's family member, yada, yada, yada. Sunstein. With 1hr 50mins to go, and guest CW "JOO-S.HOAX-REPORTShttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018" Wade hadn't even been introduced yet; I said no way Jose!

http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/300%20%28220%29.gif
http://i.imgur.com/XLTJQbd.jpg




ETA: I was going to give the MP3 (http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/6/307/show_6307089.mp3) the skipping ahead & spot checking treatment. Description doesn't say, but Delphi-Deanna is on the show too. I gave that a few mins in the 20+ min area, and it's the 3 shills circle-jerking over how Wade beat Halbig in the Apr 8 debate (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?65846-new-shooting-Newtown-Conn-details-breaking&p=702654&viewfull=1#post702654) so bad, Halbig "doesn't want you to read the reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018" ;D lol, oh and we're not ad-hom'ing Halbig (ad-hom, ad-hom, ad-hom). It's just their usual Flip the Script & Project dance (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=695864&viewfull=1#post695864).


I spot checked through the 2nd hour, to check if they took callers as the show description promises they would.... NOPE. :( I expect the line will be, "well there were no callers!" lol. Delphi claimed (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/spingola-speaks-20140330.html?showComment=1396364412147#c881845338 7459004394) this of their first 3-way Shill-A-Thon two Sundays ago (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=701094&viewfull=1#post701094); but it was surely just coincidental that they didn't finish re-bunking the last of Halbig's 16 Q's until the very end of the 3rd hour!


I did hear a great line @ 1h 39m; KJ says ACooper had Prof Tracy on (http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/01/12/anderson-coopers-anti-conspiracy-tirade/) so that Cooper could turn CNN viewers on to Tracy's blog LOL, Delphi coohed "Oh absolutely!"; then he's on about how Cooper's ex-CIA yada yada, basically trying to puff up their shilly "S.Hoax skepticism is a Sunstein op" Flip the Script & Project disinfo-theory...


KJ ends the show with this precious declaration: "And yes, these people are predators ladies & gentlemen! These people are preying on the weak, on the, they're exploiting this tragedy for their own, for their own purposes, their own selfish purposes!" :eek: << I post that coz it looks more like a BAGELhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, than a smiley!

[Dachsie]

If you know about Dr. Judy Wood's behavior in relationship to Santilli radio shows and how Spingola seems one of the charter members of the Wood cult, then you have to know that this whole show with Spingola ostensibly being asked hardball questions by Santilli was pure theater. Spingola had some nonsense statements about SH that she was to get out again, so the questions Santilli asked were designed to fit Spingola's nonsense statements.

Wood controls Santilli and Spingola. Rest assured that what Spingola is pushing is what Dr. Wood is secretly pushing as well. And this "program" regarding who never to identify as being a major part of the perp team extends retroactively to 9-11 for Wood. And just as an aside, if the FBI controls Santilli (and I think it does), then the FBI controls Wood as well.

Spingola is a bit further down the food chain and just seems to do whatever her Worshipful Mistress arranges for her.
Do not think that Spingola is thinking and acting on her own. This jumping the shark by Spingola marks Spingola's permanent departure from being an independent self directed person with her own sincerely held opinions.

[PatColo]

^ I can't say I agree with your FBI/Woods/ShamShilli/Delphi theory; mostly coz I've largely steered clear of the various, contrived "chasing our tails arguing over the technicals of HOW 911 was done" diversions inside the TM. We know it was a zion.gov job (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?23130-The-quot-Israel-did-9-11-quot-Thread); that ought to be our message to the world.

As to ShamShilli's questions "designed to fit Sunstein-Spingola's nonsense statements"; I'd just remind that a proper agent "deep inside" a given "movement", needs to do 90+ percent cred-building. Consider, Agent ShamShilli is presently on location near Bundy's NV ranch (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?76902-Holy-shit!-The-Bundy-ranchers-place&p=703351&viewfull=1#post703351), reporting the twoof! And, low-level agents aren't exactly in cahoots with one another; they're kept compartmentalized from one another. Consider Agent Pied Piper's words describing himself and many like him (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?26690-Bollyn-on-DBS-Hufschmid-Piper-Thorn-CIA&p=668792&viewfull=1#post668792):




"[...] You know, someone can be an AGENT, working for somebody or some intelligence agency, or some force, and genuinely be anti-zionist, or genuinely be a critic of Israel. But they may still have another AGENDA. Because even some of these intelligence agencies have, how can I put this; you know, the left hand doesn't always know what the right hand is doing. [...]"


So I'd guess ShamShilli's questions of Delphi in their Mar 31 interview (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=702049&viewfull=1#post702049) were sincere, under the 90+ percent cred-building banner. Delphi herself said (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-spingola-zone-at-afp-412014.html?showComment=1396536864238#c42453518119 55790769) of the ShamShilli interview, "On the other hand, I had no idea what I was getting into when I accepted Santilli's invitation but I am a big girl and am not going to cry about it. "

Also consider 'How the Fake Truth Movement Operates - a Thumbnail Sketch (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=696807&viewfull=1#post696807)' (esp Protocol IV). :cool:

[Dachsie]

"...I've largely steered clear of the various, contrived "chasing our tails arguing over the technicals of HOW 911 was done" diversions inside the TM. We know it was a zion.gov job; that ought to be our message to the world. "

The "arguing over the technicals" makes up about 99 percent of the TM. I do not argue over the technicals but I observe how different factions glom on to certain "technicals" and certain bits of purported "evidence" and then build from there. This is extremely valuable information in studying any false flag type event. (By the way, I use "false flag type event" to cover all these government psyops including the Sandy Hook debacle, and the distinction in the strict definitions of the terms is irrelevant in this case, though definitions are important in others.)

Well, first of all, I realize that at a certain point, it is futile to argue over the technicals, but to me the technicals tells us a whole lot about who did it, a whole lot. Mainly what we have been able to do is study the different factions in the TM and their "theories" and rule them out, one by one, by strictly looking at what is physically possible and what is physically impossible. It was very important to establish early on exactly what the official story was and then, for example, show that it is aerodynamically impossible for a Big Boeing to travel at 500 miles at low altitude, and Newton's Third Law making it physcically impossible for said plane to meld into a steel building effortlessly. That gets us a giant step forward in showing that there were no Islamic hijackers and all of that planes business and all of our unjust wars and "war on terrorism" was a giant hoax and gives us a much clearer picture and wider field of the people who were the real perps. I just like to focus on naming names, naming the perps, and while they all are in some sense zionist perps, they may not be zionists at all in their own eyes.

Also, by observing Dr. Steven Jones faction and how it took over 99 percent of the TM from late 2004 and how it evolved over the years and where it is now, we get a very clear picture of how the perps run these ops, and that is always valuable information.

By the way, from the beginning I did not believe or trust Dr. Steven Jones and I made a strong direction connection of Dr. Jones with the "zion.gov" perps. No one else seemed to do that, but I did. All of the writers for GlobalResearch.ca, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, TUT gang, and Christopher Bollyn e. al. all go along with Dr. Jones theory even though some of these people claim to recognize the zion.gov perps did it. So some of the strongest outspoken people against the zion.gov gang are totally fooled and can't see through Dr. Steven Jones, who is 100 percent government issue. (Also some of the top theorists who claim to be anti-Jones in their ideas are on the same team with Jones, and they probably know they are in on it. It is the Hegelian dialectic at work.)

I will say more about your disagreement with my theory later but it is important in any murder crime investigation to study how the victim was killed, that is, with what weapon. And if we also discover that the victim(s) are very atypical and non-entities in some cases, then that also not only serves to further kill the official story, but it tells us much much more about how our murderers work. Know your enemy is an essential tenet in finding or getting much closer to the whole truth.

The "compartmentalization" thing is true in a limited sense but it only goes so far. It has more to do with people individually wittingly or unwittingly submitting to Orwellian mind control, throwing their consciences out the window, and flipping the doublethink switch ON in their minds Many people do not rise in the zion.gov if they are morally and psychologically unable to flip that switch ON.

[PatColo]

Here's Spingola's comment on to her latest Sandy Hook show with Wade (posted here: http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-spingola-zone-at-afp-412014.html). Apparently, she seems to feel that those of us who see Sandy Hook as a HOAX owe an apology for "deliberate deceptions."

Deanna (http://www.blogger.com/profile/05963058800259904712) said...
Pat Colo, MCP's book did not convince me of anything regarding Sandy Hook. Looking at the evidence convinced me. During the time frame that you cite, 12 programs on Sandy Hook out of 63 hardly constitutes an obsession. Now if you wish to discuss obsessions, let's talk about your obsession/job to discredit me. I have never visited the web site that you designed to bash me as I assume it is all about character assassination and has nothing to do with the real SH issues. As for my other critics who used to like my work but now question it because they disagree with my position on SH, I must ask, have you done any real research or have you relied on Smallstorm, Fetzer, Halbig and Alex Jones for your views. Perhaps you are just following the example of your great leader, Fetzer, who, in his recent email, is distancing himself from Smallstorm just because she has questions about the very notable questioner, Wolfgang W. Halbig, whose questions have been repeatedly answered. Suddenly, it seems that she has lost all validity with Fetzer. I have reiterated my reasons for looking at SH here: http://www.spingola.com/Background.html (http://www.spingola.com/Background.html) As far as people feeling sorry for Halbig because of my hard questions - he knew exactly what he was doing when he accepted my invitation and played his cards to look like the poor little victim. Listening to that program requires independent thinking. On the other hand, I had no idea what I was getting into when I accepted Santilli's invitation but I am a big girl and am not going to cry about it. Regarding SH, to the critics, I say, what if it were one of your children that was murdered in a mass shooting? Would you like to be accused of being an actor? I am always going to side with the children. I have always said that if I find out that it was a hoax, I will apologize. I doubt that we will ever see the hoaxers apologize for all of the deliberate deceptions they have used to convince many people of their views and the disreputable opinions that they have given the entire movement.


As I formerly replied to Delphi-Deanna in the mami's comment thread where her Apr 3rd comment above appears (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-spingola-zone-at-afp-412014.html?showComment=1396536864238#c42453518119 55790769), I would reply to her comment "later"... but mami's mod "zapopper" promptly deleted/censored that comment by me. It's been more than easy to "kick the can down the road" in replying; as her comment above is so vitriolic & shrill, that it's emotionally draining spending the time properly addressing all its fallacies.


So I'll re-paste Delphi's comment below, adding a few paragraph breaks for better readability. And I'll reply in BLUE/ITALIC immediately following those items where I have something to say.


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Deanna said...

Pat Colo, MCP's book did not convince me of anything regarding Sandy Hook. Looking at the evidence convinced me. From all I've heard of her making her case, "the evidence" she gives the greatest weight to, are the Official-JOO-S.Hoax-"REPORTS" .http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 Tell us Deanna, what's your take on the Obama administration making an unusual $2.5 million payout (http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/09/03/obama-doj-in-2-5-million-sandy-hook-payout/) to Connecticut law enforcement and emergency response agencies for their participation in the December 14, 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School event? This payment took place (http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/newsroom/pressreleases/2013/dojpr082813.pdf) in late Aug '13, about 4 months BEFORE the release of your prized Official-JOO-S.Hoax-"REPORTS" http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018. Aren't the CT law & emergency services just DOING THEIR JOBS through the S.Hoax "event", for which they already make agreeable salaries?? Might such an "unusual payment" have tainted the integrity of your still pending "REPORTS" http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018?? Or perhaps you view the payment as actually *better ensuring* high integrity in the pending "REPORTS" http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, accounting for your otherwise bizarre answers to Santilli's questions? (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=702049&viewfull=1#post702049) :(??


During the time frame that you cite, 12 programs on Sandy Hook out of 63 hardly constitutes an obsession. Deanna ref's my reply 95 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=701631&viewfull=1#post701631) above, which formerly appeared in that mami's thread, but it was (also) deleted/censored by a mami's mod (guessing zapopper). Readers can judge the "obsession level" of Deanna's flurry of Official-JOO-S.Hoax-Story re-bunking shows for themselves. Now if you wish to discuss obsessions, let's talk about your obsession/job to discredit me. Deconstructing the arguments which Deanna puts forth, is quite different from "discrediting her". She's only perhaps "discredited" in the eyes of those for whom my reasoning better withstands scrutiny, than does hers. I detect Deanna posturing herself as the VICTIM™ again (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=695864&viewfull=1#post695864). I have never visited the web site that you designed NO (http://gold-silver.us/forum/forum.php)[/B]...] to bash me as I assume it is all about character assassination and has nothing to do with the real SH issues. "...all about character assassination (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=695007&viewfull=1#post695007)..." lol, me thinks the wannabe [U]VICTIM™ (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=695864&viewfull=1#post695864) doth protest too much!


As for my other critics who used to like my work but now question it because they disagree with my position on SH, I must ask, have you done any real research or have you relied on Smallstorm, Fetzer, Halbig and Alex Jones for your views. < Asks the Official-JOO-S.Hoax-Story re-bunker whose chosen "evidence" lies almost entirely in the Official-JOO-S.Hoax-"REPORTS" http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, and also with the occasional JOO YORK TIMES article (https://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/29/nyregion/search-warrants-reveal-items-seized-at-adam-lanzas-home.html?pagewanted=all) and such. Oh, and MCP/CIA's "False Flags" book-- where Deanna agrees with the book's assertions of S.Hoax being "real"; while she awkwardly maintains that the Boston charade was an obvious hoax with crisis actors, contrary to that same book's Boston assertions. Deanna's theory is that Boston was staged by TPTB, to take the public's attention off S.Hoax. :|~


Perhaps you are just following the example of your great leader, Fetzer, who, in his recent email, is distancing himself from Smallstorm just because she has questions about the very notable questioner, Wolfgang W. Halbig, whose questions have been repeatedly answered. Wolfgang's "answers" are all plainly spelled out in the Official-JOO-S.Hoax-"REPORTS" http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, right? Suddenly, it seems that she has lost all validity with Fetzer. I have reiterated my reasons for looking at SH here: http://www.spingola.com/Background.html


(http://www.spingola.com/Background.html) As far as people feeling sorry for Halbig because of my hard questions - he knew exactly what he was doing when he accepted my invitation and played his cards to look like the poor little victim. Uh oh, I detect some JEALOUSY (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=695864&viewfull=1#post695864) here! Listening to that program requires independent thinking. On the other hand, I had no idea what I was getting into when I accepted Santilli's invitation but I am a big girl and am not going to cry about it. ?!?! Bizarre statement. Nearly as bizarre as Deanna's answers (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=702049&viewfull=1#post702049) to Sanitlli's questions about her blind faith in the Official-JOO-S.Hoax-"REPORTS" http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018.


Regarding SH, to the critics, I say, what if it were one of your children that was murdered in a mass shooting? Would you like to be accused of being an actor? Personally I'd expect to remain at home mourning quietly & privately, NOT appearing glowingly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bhTqMoccVmY) on all the joozmedia (http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/jews-do-control-the-media/) propaganda organs. YMMV, however. I am always going to side with the children. Deanna and Obama both, then...



http://nathanbickel.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/sandyhookshootingobamausingchildrenaspropsevil.jpg ?w=577&h=501



I have always said that if I find out that it was a hoax, I will apologize. I anticipate Deanna will only "change her mind" and conclude SH was a hoax, when all the law, emergency, crisis-actor and joozmedia participants unanimously admit their wrongdoing, return all their "unusual taxpayer-coerced payments" and voluntary public pity donations, and apologize to the world. I won't be holding my breath! I doubt that we will ever see the hoaxers apologize for all of the deliberate deceptions they have used to convince many people of their views and the disreputable opinions that they have given the entire movement. As I said in my intro above, vitriolic & shrill. Shame on Deanna!!

[Dachsie]

Pat Colo

I addressed a couple of points to your posting saying you cannot agree with my comment about Santilli and Wood being FBI (or of course higher up the food chain).
Now I will address a couple of other points of yours.
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1.
“. We know it was a zion.gov job; that ought to be our message to the world. “

We may “know” is was a zion.gov job but we need to SHOW in every way we can that it was. We need to name names and show all connections, connections blatant and subtle.
It is not good argumentation to say something like ‘since our whole government is zion controlled, then we can automatically know that Sandy Hook (or 9-11 et al.) were zion.gov.

As far as …
“that ought to be our message to the world.”
I do not belong to any group, never have, and am not part of your pronoun “our.” I am not interested in “unity” or “our unified message to the world.” I am interested in the TRUTH wherever we may find it. Truth is imperfect in this world but we are commanded by our Creator to have a deep love of the truth and to seek it all costs. The amount of fear we each have, fear for our jobs, our families, our lives, always compromises the degree of truth we will find and show in this world.

Pointing to zion.gov in just about every part of our geopolical system takes great care and intelligence. The Zios know full well how to get us or make us expose them in ways that are careless and unintelligent and can be used against us. In my life, I have found that seeking the truth no matter where it will lead is the best way to avoid the the many traps in my path, traps caused by my own fallen human nature, and traps laid there by the zios.

2.
“I'd just remind that a proper agent "deep inside" a given "movement", needs to do 90+ percent cred-building. Consider, Agent ShamShilli is presently on location near Bundy's NV ranch, reporting the twoof! “

Yes, it is true that agents need to spend time “cred building”, but for Santilli, it is not simply agent building cred. He was knocked for a serious loop by Anonymous discovering he is a paid FBI agent, so Santilli is working on rebuilding or re-establishing his credibility from the ground up. I never thought he had much credibility or notoriety or renown to begin with and I never heard of him until Dr. Fetzer wrote about Santilli interview of Dr. Morgan Reynolds (Dr. Judy Woods close associate).
I find it hard to limiting myself to the Sham and Shill descriptors of Santilli. How about something like
Sham ShillSleazy (SSS)
We must highlight his sleaze or con-man character as he is probably the ChiefSleaze, though largely unknown, among all the alternative internet radio show hosts. SSS is to alternative “truth” radio as Cyrus Scofield is to Christianity.

I only listened to one show of his, the one where he interviewed Dr. Morgan Reynolds and it was just too easy to see that guy for the total huckster that he is. I am a little slow in identifying other con artists in the “TM” but I am getting much better.
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3.
“low-level agents aren't exactly in cahoots with one another; they're kept compartmentalized from one another.”

I touched on the cmpartmentalization matter in my previous reply to you, but will say a bit more here.

Some agents are in cahoots with each other and some are not.
Dr. Judy Wood has a long history with Santilli and Santilli shows, when it started I do not know. I also do not know when Santilli became a paid agent of the FBI. I think Dr. Wood just came on board with Santilli show matters about one year before Anonymous and Susan Posel and Vinny Eastwood blew their story with strong proof of Santilli being FBI.

Dr. Wood is a smart, sly, calculating person who knows how to get her clutches into a person. It would be especially easy with a no-conscience, ego maniac money grubber flim-flam artist like Santilli. As I said, Dr. Wood is smart and she knows full well Santilli is FBI and she is fine with that. Santilli was probably ordered by the FBI to support and cheer for Dr. Wood’s Directed Energy Weapons (DEW) 9-11 theory, and Dr. Wood is probably directed by “the FBI” to use Santilli’s radio show to promote herself and whatever ideas that go with her DEWs Theory diversions and distractions and prestidigitations the the 9-11 “Truth Movement.”

(Note, I have always detested referring to those diverse people and groups seeking truth about 9-11 and so many other major issues as being in a “movement.” However, I realize, for shorthand purposes in posting on the web, one has to employ the term. You can see how “the movement” is perfect to be used by the anti-truthers like Santilli, Wood, Sunstein, Spingola, Piper etc. You see all these disgusting people all of sudden showing all this recognition and concern about “the truth movement.” Collectiving the very diverse “TM” people is part of the “unity” manipulation. People who do their best to stay out of groups and movements and seek the truth will be persecuted and ostracized by all the groupies and movement people.
Also please note that when I say “is FBI” I naturally mean the powers that be in the federal Zio apparatus or the upper echelons of the evildoer pyramid and not specifically the FBI agency. The FBI are the grunts in the hierarchy of evil.
4.
As for Michael Piper’s words…
“someone can be an AGENT, working for somebody or some intelligence agency, or some force, and genuinely be anti-zionist, or genuinely be a critic of Israel. But they may still have another AGENDA. Because even some of these intelligence agencies have, how can I put this; you know, the left hand doesn't always know what the right hand is doing. [...]" “

Of course there is some truth in this. You would not expect a 30 plus year full time writer for AFP and Liberty Lobby to throw out a sloppy argument with no truth in it.

But truth is some of the “agents” are on the same whole agenda while appearing for all the world to be at odds with each other. It’s the old “fake fights” and “fake firings” play acting routines.
I have observed many instances where I think Zion.gov gives us a shill who APPEARS to be “genuinely be anti-zionist, or genuinely be a critic of Israel”
When the truth is the shill is on the direct payroll of the ADL or AIPAC or black ops federal budgets.
Don’t you see how USEABLE it is to the Zios to have the controlled opposition agencies, businesses, newspapers, magazines, radio networks, and individual show hosts and writers in their pocket?
Some people think the main “pocket” belongs to the “globalists, the NOW, etc., but I more and more see that the Zio component is the common denominator at the top, which is really the ultimate bottom of Satanic hellish evil.

Pat Colo said…
“So I'd guess ShamShilli's questions of Delphi in their Mar 31 interview were sincere, under the 90+ percent cred-building banner. “

No, sincerity is simply not in Mr. Sleaze and neither is the quality of sincerity in Dr. Wood. Dr. Wood can feign sincerity as can Spingola, in their individual ways within their very serious and similar psychological pathologies.
In other words, Santilli, Wood and Spingola, because of their perfect personality and character flaws. Are all splendid actors and deceivers.

I am going to post again my comment that prompted your response that I am herewith responding to.
Dachsie Comment # 110
“If you know about Dr. Judy Wood's behavior in relationship to Santilli radio shows and how Spingola seems one of the charter members of the Wood cult, then you have to know that this whole show with Spingola ostensibly being asked hardball questions by Santilli was pure theater. Spingola had some nonsense statements about SH that she was to get out again, so the questions Santilli asked were designed to fit Spingola's nonsense statements.

Wood controls Santilli and Spingola. Rest assured that what Spingola is pushing is what Dr. Wood is secretly pushing as well. And this "program" regarding who never to identify as being a major part of the perp team extends retroactively to 9-11 for Wood. And just as an aside, if the FBI controls Santilli (and I think it does), then the FBI controls Wood as well.

Spingola is a bit further down the food chain and just seems to do whatever her Worshipful Mistress arranges for her.
Do not think that Spingola is thinking and acting on her own. This jumping the shark by Spingola marks Spingola's permanent departure from being an independent self directed person with her own sincerely held opinions. “

I stand by my comment more than ever now that I have read the Spingola quote you did in PatColo Comment #113.

In Comment # 113 showing Spingola quotes…

Spingola is showing strong paranoid ideations (same as Dr. Wood) and
Is demonstrating many psychological defense mechanisms, especially Projection, where one accuses others of what oneself is guilty of.
(Dr. Wood is able to hide her character flaws and personality disorders much better than Spingola because of her intelligence level. Santilli is just your common street hustler who is an open (comic) book.)


Also note particularly how Spingola touches on all the major concepts I posted about her in my Comment # 110.

All this focusing on what Spingola deems to be “evidence” is straight out of the Judy Wood playbook and I mean straight out of.

Spingola has decided to play the government’s game of “it’s FOR THE CHILDREN” and that ploy is as one of the oldest manipulations in the book.
Also Dr. Wood has probably trained Spingola and how saying you are always on the side of the children is a safe, sure fire way to have yourself always come out smelling like a rose.

I could go on but won’t.
I want to focus on my main idea that

Judy Wood and company are FBI, just like Santilli.

(Spingola is a second-string player and probably wants out of the game and probably soon will lose her RBN show, and I say do not pay much attention to her.)

[Horn]

Yes, its never a good idea to exclude anyone imo when the search for truth is concerned.

It is the drawn conclusion to truths that is decided upon by the recipient in any case, anyways.

Don't fret over drawn conclusions (from your piers even) when the course becomes clear for action it will be clear as an azure and summer sky, and you will either be on your own there, or someone beside you.

[PatColo]

Spingola also did a show w/Dave McGowan on the Boston marathon bombing being a hoax, and, if I recall correctly, she asked him if he had had a chance to look at Sandy Hook (with the implication being that that was a hoax as well).

I haven't had a chance to listen to this 2 hr Delphi/McGowan/AFP podcast; will be curious if SHoax comes up. I predict not, and don't rule out that it's even a pre-agreement for DMcGowan coming on the show (principally to give an infomercial for his new book) that SHoax not be discussed? I see nothing at McGowan's site discussing SHoax:
http://www.google.com/search?q="Sandy+Hook"+site:davesweb.cnchost.com (http://http://www.google.com/search?q=&quot;Sandy+Hook&quot;+site:davesweb.cnchost.com)


http://cdn1.btrstatic.com/pics/hostpics/thumbs/e4c5f267-9391-4d81-85d3-ec5a76742f99_18_afp_radio_network_600_x_600.jpg (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americanfreepress/2014/04/21/the-spingola-zone) 02:01

The Spingola Zone (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americanfreepress/2014/04/21/the-spingola-zone)

[equineluvr]

Personally, I don't see how anyone can STAND to listen to this woman! Her voice
is like fingernails on a chalkboard. Also, her "interview skills" have always been less
than impressive (not to mention her lack of basic grammar). She comes across as a
complete and total moron. I have never liked her nor "trusted" her.

[Tumbleweed]

I used to enjoy her right up until she jumped the shark on the sandy hooknose hoax but I can't stand to listen to her now because of it.

[equineluvr]

I used to enjoy her right up until she jumped the shark on the sandy hooknose hoax but I can't stand to listen to her now because of it.


I am listening to her "interview" of Wolf Halbig and having a hard time keeping a straight face! She is a shreiking BANSHEE!! He is holding his own pretty well (although I certainly don't agree with his "Israel" comments, but that's beside the point). He is to be lauded for keeping his cool. I would have HUNG UP ON HER RUDE ASS LONG AGO!! All she does is cut him off.

Evidently all it takes to convince her of government veracity is to peruse "official" reports, i.e. LIES.

She needs to WATCH MORE TV because she is making ASININE comments about what happens at a crime scene that anyone who watches ANY crime shows on TV knows the answer to!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0ipH03rMEE

The ONLY thing she "got" him on:
1) His company's mailing address is a rented mail box instead of a physical office address. BFD!!!
2) He mispronunces some people's names. With English as his SECOND language, she should cut him
some slack for that. Besides, his English is MUCH better than hers!!!

UNbelievable; that's all I can say.

[Dachsie]

Today I listened to the show Deanna did with Piper as guest where they spoke mainly about Sandy Hook and his "False Flags" book.

All in all I would say that MCP's comments about "the Sandy Hook hoax" and the "Sandy Hook hoax crowd." all amount to an elaborate Straw Man logical fallacy presentation. He glommed onto certain positions of certain truth seekers and exagerated them or took them out of context or twisted them in any number of ways. Classic straw man.

My random and incomplete observations about this show.

Spingola said at first she took Sandy Hook to be what the early truth seekers were saying about it but then she read Piper's book and she had an "ah hah" moment and that is when she changed her take on Sandy Hook to believing it was real event. I think somewhere in this thread I read where Spingola claims her opinions are entirely arrived at on her own.

His choice of words was very curious. For example he referred to the "Sandy Hook hoax CROWD" uses the same word Cass Sunstein often uses --- "CROWD control".

As for the word "hoax", yes many truth seekers about Sandy Hook do use the word hoax but I think many of these people do so for very logical reasons.

1. If you look up the definition of hoax and you want one word that pretty well summarizes your findings in your truth seeking efforts, hoax is a very good word choice.

2. We do not just "throw out" the term "hoax" as Piper does in his Straw Man tirades. We back up, we fully support and document as much as we can, why we say "hoax."

3. From what I have read so far of the work of people who are seeking Sandy Hook truth, they do not focus on the word "hoax" at all. They just go about showing all the facts on the ground that just do not add up. When you get a large number of glaring inconsistencies or anomalies, things that just do not add up, one naturally begins to think in terms of the word "hoax", but that was never the main emphasis in what I have read. The emphasis was on describing the thing that does not add up and then elaborating on exactly why it does not add up. There are very big things that don't add up, such as that video on YouTube on what look like the Sandy Hook child victims at much older ages, and then there are very small or minor things that seem odd or strange like that woman who remarked how there was not a box of Kleenex anywhere around some person who was being interviewed whose child had just been murdered. I focus on the former.

Anyway, MCP did a Straw Man logical fallacy presentation on Spingola's show.

I thought it was interesting how Mark Lane was mentioned at the beginning and how Willis Carto suggested a book title for Mark Lane's book which ended up being published as "Rush to Judgment". That just acknowledged Mark Lanes continuing close relationship with Willis Carto who is said to be the owner and director of American Free Press. So the close association of this Jewish Zionist person with AFP's Carto is not something MCP wishes to keep quiet about apparently.

http://www.amazon.com/Mark-Lane/e/B000ARBDXG

(None of Lane's books ever mention a Zionist / Jew connection to any subject he writes about.)

I read today that Lane went to Guyana and gave a big speech to Jim Jones' ( his legal client) followers there and told them the CIA was coming over with that US Senator to kill them all, not to rescue them and so they all were scared and drank the Kool Aid. Now that is what I call mass murder done with words of Mark Lane.

Another thing I thought was probably based on what MCP really experiences but which was used or distorted was his talking about ...
"I have been smeared up and down"
"people have been trying to get me fired"
I receive "the most vicious emails"
emails are "threatening", "Vulgar" and "quite distubing"

Now this is the tac that Alex Jones often employs. AJ spends a lot of time telling about all the big media people who are writing hit pieces obout him and about all the things big people are saying against him and how he is just continuing to starnd up for truth and he is long-suffering and he just bears up under the onslaught. This is usually done for self aggrandizement but may be more complex motive for Piper using this tac.

Well, speaking of vulgar emails, here is the the said content of an email that Michael Collins Piper sent to M.C. Anderson... (By the way, M.C. Anderson may just be a "lone nutter" not sure yet)

ajmacdonaldjr.wordpress.com/.../sandy-hook-hoax-or-truth-tracy-smallst...‎
Dec 29, 2013 - The Michael Collins Piper (MCP) quote above didn't concern Sandy Hook ... Sandy Hook… the Boston Marathon Bombing… all of these events ...


“God damn to fucking all Hell of you asshole rumor mongers. Go fuck yourself, you motherfucker. I’d love to shove my cane up your ass and my other cane down your throat and strangle you like you deserve.” ~ Michael Collins Piper (email to the author of this blog)

_____________

Jump the shark is what Piper did and in a very covert twisted way, Piper is supporting the Cass Sunstein agenda.

As for Piper having been fired from American Free Press, I do not know about that but I seriously doubt it. Piper said on this radio show that he was speaking on his own and did not represent AFP at all in his comments. He said he has not been on the staff at AFP for about ten years and has been only a "consultant" to AFP.

The firing and the consultant bits sound phony to me. There are fake firings and there are fake consultants.

By the way I do not think Piper has really "jumped shark". He has been operating from the same agenda for 30 plus years. But "it was just time" to stir up the "truth movement" and cause division and confusion and weaken the people on the internet who really were getting more and more together regarding their findings about Sandy Hook and Boston. Piper has been very successful at that.

Spingola has lost many of her listeners and so has Piper and many others. That was a very Sunstein-like accomplishment for Piper.

[PatColo]

Dachsie, if you want to hear a bitter MCP screech about losing his AFP job, listen to this "free" one (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/tut-broadcast-april-21-2014/) LOL, beginning @ 57 mins when MCP comes on. I comment on the podcast here (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-realist-report-with-john-friend_22.html?showComment=1398237352892#c91338651 79153433706); and further down that thread "fauxcapitalist" posts a minute-marked recap. There's another comment from me further below fauxcapitalist's.

[PatColo]

I was poking around youtube, and this vid came up from Tyranny News Network, TNN, the one who "improved" Sofia's S.Hoax vid. It's from late March, check link for 28 comments:


A Response to the Accusations of Deception Advanced by Deanna Spingola (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gchpAeJDZdM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gchpAeJDZdM

A Response to the Accusations of Deception Advanced by Deanna Spingola
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Published on Mar 26, 2014
Here are the relevant links to the source materials for reference...

Unraveling Sofia Smallstorm's Video on Sandy Hook, Part 1 -- Feb. 11, 2014
http://www.spingola.com/Unraveling1.html

Unraveling Sofia Smallstorm's Video on Sandy Hook, Part 2 -- Feb. 18, 2014
http://www.spingola.com/Unraveling2.html

The Spingola Zone -- Feb. 11, 2014 (Discussing Part 1 above)
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/american... (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americanfreepress/2014/02/11/the-spingola-zone)

The Spingola Zone -- Feb. 18, 2014 (Discussing Part 2 above)
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/american... (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americanfreepress/2014/02/18/the-spingola-zone)

Sofia Smallstorm Unraveling Sandy Hook -- Nov. 5, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1yfJD... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1yfJDCMU64)

[Dachsie]

Thank you for the links. I have just listened to or read most of them.

I have to say your posting...

11th March 2014, 01:37 AM #76
PatColo

Re: Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story

Is bordering on absolutely brilliant. I wanted to summarize Spingola's behavior, without having to spend much more time on her, but you did it so perfectly in your "jooey rhetorical manipulation gambits" (JRMG) idea.

Now I see why you, PatColo, often refer to Spingola as "Delphi Deanna".
I remember reading Beverly Eakman's first book, Cloning of the American Mind: Eradicating Morality through Education, many years ago. I actually exchanged a few emails with Beverly Eakman.
I remember listening many times to Eakman on Dr. Stan Monteith's radio show. She helped me a lot understand the Delphi Technique (DT), but I must comment that her exposure of the Delphi Technique, and the Delphi Technique official documentation from the Rand Institute in California, has mainly or exclusively to do with GROUP DYNAMICS. In other words the DT as used in a group situation, a room full of people at a conference on in a special purpose meeting of people.

Of course, the DT employs some of the tried and true manipulative tactics that all of us observe in many aspects of life, so Cass Sunstein's "cognitive infiltration" theory on how to infiltrate the "conspiracy" crowd and groups also includes some of those generic manipulation techniques, but Sunstein's plan involves much more than the comparatively simple Delphi Technique.

Here is a good downloadable radio show

Guns and Butter, for September 22, 2010
Guns and Butter – September 22, 2010 at 1:00pm
http://kpfaweb.kpfa.org/misc/utilities/players/1pixelout/player.swf
Click to listen (or download)
“Cognitive Infiltration: An Obama Appointee’s Plan to Undermine the 9/11 Truth Movement” with researcher, Tod Fletcher.

(Tod Fletcher was a guest on one of Dr. Flether's Real Deal archived radio shows.)

________________
I still do not find any words of Piper's saying he was "fired" from AFP, only that he has some "situation with AFP". That show I listened to showed Piper distancing himself from direct involvement at AFP when he claimed he has not been on the staff but has only been a "consultant" for about the last ten years. So if what Piper said is true, it would not even be possible for AFP to fire him, because he is not technically an employee of AFP.

_____
Piper consistently does not discuss the "facts on the ground" that we have tried to expand on and explain in our reasoning. I have seen many times over the years disputes in online and radio discussions that I see clearly coming from the use of the word "evidence." Everybody seems to vacillate in their meaning/use of that word. That is why I have started using the term "facts on the ground" and by that I mean observations that we need to investigate to the fullest of our abilities. We need to see if there are indications that the "fact" is indeed a fact or if there are signs that it is a false or faked element, and so on. If it is a real fact, it may or may not lead to something that reaches the level of "evidence." I try to keep in mind the legal and scientific criteria for evidence.

Again, I do not like to spend much time on Spingola as I regard her as a minor player. I have exchanged emails with her and I observed in that the old "JRMG" routine. She does not answer clear direct questions and skips on to other subjects. She also consistently exhibits what I call "paranoid ideations", i.e., everybody is persecuting her, same personality characteristics I see in Dr. Judy Wood, and also in Mark Glenn and Michael Piper for that matter.

One thing I will say for Spingola, she writes well and turns out a good article...such as this one...
http://www.dailystormer.com/false-flags-for-israel/

False Flags for Israel
Deanna Spingola
September 14, 2013


I think DS has spent much of her time telling us about the Joo connections to the CIA and the FBI, as has Michael Piper. That is why I find it especially incomprehensible that she cannot see the FBI's machinations in the Sandy Hook event, to say nothing of the many other Zionist / Jew characteristics of other aspects of Sandy Hook.


To tell you the truth, I have stopped trying to figure out who is an "agent" or an "op" and who is not.

I just try to focus on sincerely seeking the truth and trying to avoid being manpulated or "taken in" myself and not joining groups.

I am just trying to focus on things like Wolfgang Halbig appears to be attempting. He is going through the system for the purpose of getting us more information about Sandy Hook. Whatever the response of "the officials" in Newtown, we will gain information, though perhaps not the solid kind of information about the actual event that we so need.

I am still a bit fuzzy on the chronology of all these people who jumped shark on Sandy Hook, and some on Boston too, but it appears it had its genesis with the Mark Glenn / Michael Piper dynamic duo. I just see the results of their "jumping" or taking a 180 degree turn in their way of viewing these big events, starting I guess with the USS Liberty back in the 60s. I observed a coming together in agreement of the very diverse truth seekers ("Truth movement") on the two events, Sandy Hook and Boston, and now since these shark jumpers did their thing, this solidarity has been lost. We are more split up than ever.

No thank you, Cass and Mike and Deanna, for the great confusion and division and untruth you have injected into our efforts.

[PatColo]

^ thanks again for the strokes Dachsie. As I said above somewhere, I didn't anticipate this Delphi-Deanna/Sandy Hoax business to extend much beyond her Jan 15 jumping-the-shark show described in the OP. I figured that show would be a "one-off anomaly" for Delphi, and she'd move on resuming her formerly excellent shows/guests. But as we've seen, that has not been the case! She just got nastier & nastier... and this Delphi/Shark thread has consequently become sort of a 'blog' documenting & deconstructing her joospew.

As to "Delphi-Deanna", that's intended to highlight the joowey irony/hypocrisy, the joowey/Orwellian Newspeak/inversion-of-reality, which I find so conspicuous in her S.Hoax campaign. She's spent 1/3 to 1/2 of her S.Hoax related shows schooling listeners as to Delphi/Sunstein/Group Manipulation/Yada/Yada, obviously seeking to posture herself as "SUPER-DUPER-ANTI-" those bad things; meanwhile conspicuously (IMHO) employing all those same manipulation/deception ploys, on her listeners! All her "SUPER-DUPER-ANTI-" posturing is merely a ploy to offset/neutralize our ability to notice this. Example:




55s: PS: Still, you can't say with absolute certainty that you know what happened with Sandy Hook, right?

1:00 DS: Well, yes, you CAN say exactly what happened, because, they have come out with all the reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, and I have dug through them, other people have dug through them, [...]. The hoaxers would have you believe that THESE PEOPLE ARE ALL LIARS. OR ACTORS, YES!! IS THAT RIDICULOUS (http://crisisactors.org/) OR WHAT?!? EVEN A CHILD COULD SEE IT!! (http://www.amazon.com/Counter-Group-Manipulation-Tactics-Consensus-Building/dp/145051913X)

(http://www.amazon.com/Counter-Group-Manipulation-Tactics-Consensus-Building/dp/145051913X)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51V1v2IqxzL.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/Counter-Group-Manipulation-Tactics-Consensus-Building/dp/145051913X)





As to your "We are more split up than ever" remark above Dachsie, I don't really see that. The Delphi/TUT-Co kosher cabal have ostracized themselves. Their (handlers') Sunstein-game has been so thin & transparent. Their 'net shills astroturfing the comment boards, seeking to give the illusion of "widespread agreement/support" for the Delphi/TUT-Co cabal's joospew, are even more laughably transparent; to wit, Aleksa's hysterical & vacuous rantings (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=5799974980689627317).

Delphi's show today (http://spingolaspeaks.wordpress.com/) again had Sheila Matthews Gallo, co-founder of AbleChild (http://www.ablechild.org/), on as guest. I haven't listened and don't know if I can stomach it; but my prediction is at least part of their interview will be spent enshrining the official "Adam Lanza" myth, discussing "his relationship with psychotropic drugs" which led to his (officially) having done did Sandy Hoax. I predict this coz that's how Delphi sought to play Gallo's past couple appearances in the wake of Delphi's Jan 15 jumping the shark.

[Dachsie]

Amanda Comment #90 this thread...

"Everything seemed to change last November (2013) after she [Spingola] read Michael Collins Piper's latest book [False Flags], which apparently goes along with the official narrative on Sandy Hook and Boston, and suggests that those of us who see those two events as hoaxes have somehow been manipulated by Cass Sunstein. "

I am gradually seeing the point in time the defectors appeared and it was after Piper's book came out in probably latter part of 2013.

Not sure my chronic nausea of late will allow me to listen to the Jan 15 2014 Spingola show where you say she jumped shark on air.

I think I always had this gnawing wondering why did these people change so suddenly and what is the motivation of the shark jumpers.

I do not believe that Spingola just had an "ah hah moment" and simply changed her mind about Sandy Hook solely from reading that book.

I still say there is some coercive force running all this and it points back to the Sunstein camp.

It is all so incredibly absurd. All these people doing a 180 on Sandy Hook and doing it all around the same time.

I have read half of Chapter 29 of Piper's book and will try to slog through the final Chapter 30. Piper sets out a careful, step by step set of propositions leading to his book's thesis. This is unlike anything I know of his writing, which is admittedly very little, and the book itself shows signs to me that Piper was under some kind of coercion to get this book out and out fast.

I think they want us to not ignore them so I think I will definitely ignore them as much as possible. They are baiting us and attacking us. They will get what they deserve for their subversive and deceptive ploys.

No matter how much good work, via writing and radio commentary, I think Piper and Spingola have done, their current behavior just blows them out of the game for me. They have turned no good and I will not imbibe anymore of any of their material. You say they have isolated or ostracized themselves and I guess that is true, but if this whole thing is a purposeful ploy as I believe it is, then they do not mind at all being isolated or not tuned in to or read: that's exactly one of the goals they wanted. As I said before, it was just time in someone's plan for them to all jump shark.

PatColo and Amanda have probably done the most in this thread and other forums describing and getting to the root of all this defection, but I still do not we know the real person running and forcing Operation Jump Shark.

The idea that AFP is actually a controlled op outfit for the Zionists still looms strong in my thinking. I have noted so many times over the years the Zionists "eat their own", that is, they attack their own people and set up controlled op entities that seem like they are really anti-zionist when they are not. (I believe the SPLC is such a controlled entity.) What a damn shame because they seem to have put out so much good work.

(I think there were several 'sub-narratives in 9-11 official story that were actually put in to the plot to get us all going down "hunt the Mossad" rabbit trails.)

[PatColo]

I've said for years, MCP's an agent, not to mention a drunkard & gay (Bollyn flatly calls him gay, and he worked with MCP a decade or so ago). What is he, late 50s, never married no kids, living in a bachelor pad in "Gay DC"?? Duh he's gay! As to drunkard, I've heard him do podcasts obviously marinated in Scotch. Also seen him miss many scheduled podcasts.... see his own words here! (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2010/12/19/michael-collins-pipers-initial-statement-concerning-his-departure-from-rbn/) It's at the root of his neuropathy in his legs (can barely walk), and bad heart. A couple years ago I listened to one of his podcasts, where at the opening he apologized for having missed the previous show, and get this: said he "was at the health food store, and he just lost track of the time" LOL... "health food store" is code for liquor store, that or he was just passed out drunk on his sofa.

So his profile is prime fodder as a CIA asset... blackmailable coz he's straight-acting gay, but (used to...) be able to do radio shows, blowing hard like AJ for a couple hours here and there. I've said above several times, his book(s) are ghost-written by CIA spooks (ditto for Delphi's seemingly exhaustive S.Hoax "research" and related solo shows where she simply read aloud from her prepared song sheet for ~1.5 hrs), with his name stamped to them. "False Flags" was his most conspicuously ghost-written... slick disinfo. He's too debilitated by his alcoholism to crank out book after book. He could barely keep it together enough to show up for his former podcast schedule.

[Dachsie]

That certainly explains a lot. I did not know that you have said he is an agent for years. What you said about his books being written by CIA spooks is believable now to me.

i do not know about the CIA writing Spingola's books. I have never read or purchased or even seen one of her books. I did post that one article of hers I recently came across and was impressed with how fast moving the read was and nicely footnoted. I did listen to Deanna years ago when she was on Radio Liberty shows but when she moved more actively into her anti-zio speaking and writing and over to radio, I stopped listening to her and only caught a few of her shows over the past few years. I have heard her read on the radio for long periods. That bad practice combined with her screechy voice just does not work for me.

I think reading several paragraphs from something on air is just very bad. Several of the hosts, including Alex Jones, simply are unable to read out loud even one sentence without stumbling, stuttering and mispronouncing words.

I have not followed MCP very closely and have only read one book of his about assassinated Louisiana U S senator Huey P. Long. It was really a compilation of essays by the senator and not much writing involved at all. I heard MCP say he started out being an anti-war person so he was probably a leftie and those folk were prime adoptees of the CIA/FBI subverters. If he were as virulently anti-Zio over the years as he portrays himself, he would have been dealt with by the Zio-mafia long ago and not living peacefully in an apartment in D.C. and activiely writing and speaking against the Zios.

This discussion has helped me sort things out and I appreciate it.

The zio subversion tactics are very sophisticated, twisted and deep and it is difficult for me to fathom sometimes. I have noted several writers of books over the years that came on radio shows and I felt their story did just not sound genuine and I felt they were sponsored by the intelligence apparatus of our government. I noticed similar sounding entities for many years in the 9-11 truth factions. A couple of big names in the 9-11 truth seekers who appeared to make some good contributions seemed to, in a twisted way, be for the purpose of supporting the official story.

The tell-tale sign for me always is when something the person says or their whole position or stance just does not ring true, does not seem logical or fit togeher naturally. I am very sensitive to that.

[PatColo]

That certainly explains a lot. I did not know that you have said he is an agent for years. What you said about his books being written by CIA spooks is believable now to me.

i do not know about the CIA writing Spingola's books. I have never read or purchased or even seen one of her books. I did post that one article of hers I recently came across and was impressed with how fast moving the read was and nicely footnoted. [...]


On MCP, besides posting this Bollyn/AFP thread in May '10; the first I can see there where I myself call MCP an agent is in Aug '11 in reply 26 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?26690-Bollyn-on-DBS-Hufschmid-Piper-Thorn-CIA&p=443800&viewfull=1#post443800) therein, agreeing with Bollyn's conclusion:



Piper's a much more toxic character than his buddy Glenn, with Piper "slamming Bollyn" in virtually every one of his podcasts I've heard- even this most recent 8/5 one (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2011/08/06/the-piper-report-aug-5-2011/), which Piper spends part of responding to this 8/4 Bollyn piece above. Piper's approach being mainly childish name calling (referring to Bollyn as "kinky balloon" ~10x per podcast) and repeating "proven liar!" over and over with only ambiguous and paper thin claims to back this up. When I'm really bored I'll listen to a Piper podcast, just to see what he's saying these days, but I can't say I enjoy or learn anything from his shtick- most of the time he's obviously full of scotch.

I do believe Bollyn about Piper being an agent, as Piper's attacks on Bollyn are just too thin yet too incessant and ongoing, esp in contrast to Bollyn's ignoring them (with Bollyn's 8/4 Piper-debunking piece above being a rare exception) and not picking fights generally, for Piper's tireless, endless Bollyn-slander-campaign to be anything but a spook disinfo op. And AFP's background with Mark Lane etc taint their trustworthiness indeed... they're surely compromised at best...


MCP's (and his JOO S.Hoax Story promoting tribes') ridiculousness wrt S.Hoax, has only served as additional coffin nails re any "agent or not?" question.

I wouldn't guess Delphi's books were ghost written by spooks either. Purely speculating based on the timeline of events, I'd guess she "flipped" officially with her solo Jan 15 show coming out as a JOO-S.Hoax-Story-Hugger, though "negotiations" with the spooks were surely in play in the weeks/months preceding. Last Sep, Delphi expected her RBN hostess job would soon end (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?60988-great-truth-radio-podcast-blog-no-commercials!&p=659436&viewfull=1#post659436). She spent that Jan 15 show simply reading aloud a prepared dissertation, & taking no callers, same as she did for a total of 6 1/2 solo S.Hoax shows (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=701631&viewfull=1#post701631). It's those shows' prepared dissertations, as well as the various S.Hoax dedicated webpages she has at spingola.com, which I expect were the work of the spooks... The Delphi-Deanna jumping the shark timeline also adds up in that she came on board with AFP last Fall also, beginning a weekly radio show there. Given the credible evidence that AFP is itself a spook front organization (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?26690-Bollyn-on-DBS-Hufschmid-Piper-Thorn-CIA&p=221350&viewfull=1#post221350), it follows that Delphi's exposure to the personalities there last Fall, would open the doorway to the communication/negotiations preceding her current, blatantly compromised circumstance.


Separately, may as well drop this turd into this thread; as Keith Johnstein is part of the same pro JOO S.Hoax Story tribe:
______________________



WEB EXCLUSIVE: Is Wolfgang Halbig on a Wild Goose Chase? (http://americanfreepress.net/?p=17001)

May 03, 2014 AFP

http://americanfreepress.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/19_Sandy_Hook_Halbig-300x231.jpg
By Keith Johnson —

Wolfgang W. Halbig (https://www.facebook.com/SandyHookJustice) won’t rest until the state of Connecticut answers “16 simple questions (http://www.sandyhookjustice.com/about-us.html)” concerning the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting of December 14, 2012. Will those answers be forthcoming, or have they been hiding in plain sight for quite some time?

MORE (http://americanfreepress.net/?p=17001)


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Don't tell me Mr. Johnstein lemme guess: Halbig's answers can all be found in the Official JOO S.Hoax REPORTS??http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 :rolleyes:

[slvrbugjim]

Halbig and Fetzer were in Newtown all day Tuesday, then were interviewed on Rense last night I will see if I can up load it somewhere

You can download the interview here
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58968733/rense_050614_hr3.mp3

They tried to go to the United Way office there because UW has collected over $29M for SH, but were not even allowed into the building

[PatColo]

thx Jim. Here's a backup link for that Rense hour 3:
Listen (http://www.talkshoe.com/resources/talkshoe/images/swf/lastEpisodePlayer.swf?fileUrl=http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/f7xnn27xa8/Rense.20140506.3of3.mp3) Download (http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/f7xnn27xa8/Rense.20140506.3of3.mp3) Hour 3 - James Fetzer (http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/fetzer/) - Sandy Hook Developments

Delphi had Dave Gahary on her show, haven't listened yet; she accompanied description with this bitchy addendum:




Deanna Spingola talks to her guests Wolfgang Halbig, Jim Fetzer and Dave Gahary, as they discuss their day in Newtown, Connecticut.

Update (by Deanna): Unfortunately, Dr. Fetzer and Mr. Halbig were unavailable for the program. They decided to join Jeff Rense later in the evening after taking a much-needed rest from their day's activities. Apparently, Halbig was unable to obtain the answers to his 16 questions from anyone in Newtown after spending all of the time and money (from donations) to go there. One may see the answers to those questions by visiting Wade's page (http://sandyhookanalysis.blogspot.com/2014/03/wolfgang-halbigs-16-questions-asked-and.html), which he posted on March 23, 2014. Halbig did not ask the school board the only question that they, having the proper jurisdiction over, could have answered—had the school been in operation during the last five years? Some people claim that it was not. It is uncertain exactly what Halbig and Fetzer actually accomplished but their visit certainly became the focus of a lot of media attention. An NBC correspondent was at the school board meeting, InfoWars had a representative there and the local newspapers (http://www.newstimes.com/local/article/Newtown-school-board-greets-Sandy-Hook-skeptics-5458442.php#photo-6267851) covered Halbig's viist.

AFP Radio Network (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americanfreepress) (BlogTalk)

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[monochrome]

I think Deanna is very stubborn and hangs on to certain ideas for longer than she should, but I don't think she is an agent or a sellout, I think she will eventually find her way back to her old self. At least I hope so.

[PatColo]

cross-posting from the main Sandy Hoax thread (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?65846-new-shooting-Newtown-Conn-details-breaking&p=708355&viewfull=1#post708355),
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I've heard both the Rense/Fetzer/Halbig show, and the Delphi-Deanna/Gahary/KJohnstein/Anonymous-Wade show both posted 2 replies up (#130).

The Rense show was great; 52 mins as he skips a couple breaks, and it's great coz Rense is a S.Hoax skeptic so he was all about asking the right questions, letting them speak, etc.

Delphi's show (1h 58m) was predictably awful to endure. If you think her voice is less than soothing when she's in good health, endure 2 hours where she's hoarse! :( I felt Dave Gahary's pain, as he labors to present himself as "neutral" & having "no opinion" on S.Hoax. But I'd say he's plainly a closet S.Hoax Truther, judging not only from this show with Delphi, but also his 2 interview podcasts with Halbig. So Gahary had to keep playing the straight-man in the face of Delphi's constantly trying to spin things to cast the HalbigCo Newtown trip in the worst possible light.

It's also been a sad spectacle watching Delphi slink further down the "insult-to-listeners'-intelligence level" of the disinfo-rule list (http://www.911truth.org/newcm/twenty-five-rules-of-disinformation/), with her increasing reliance on the "ridicule" gambit... jokes about Rense's hair, did anyone recognize Halbig without his FL State Trooper uniform on, Halbig's obesity, on and on. Gahary was admirable in his playing it down the middle, not agreeing with Delphi's desperate desire to slant things, & his sticking up for HalbigCo on several occasions, meanwhile "entertaining" Delphi & avoiding alienating her as well. A difficult dance, with such a toxic personality with a blatant agenda... but Gahary pulled it off well. :)

Last 1/2 hour Delphi is joined by KJohnstein and "Anonymous Wade", reuniting the 3 pro-JOO-SHoax-Story tribe members since their Mar 31 Shill-A-Thon show (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=701094&viewfull=1#post701094). So the quality of dialog dropped accordingly, with the "ridicule" gambit leading the charge as the 3 shills sought to belittle & trivialize the HalbigCo Newtown trip.

There was an interesting moment around 1h 31m, where it was Gahary and the 3 JOO-SHoax-Story shills all on together. Gahary noted that, in the alt-news/truther universe, they really hate the 3 shills, and that their SHoax opinions were out numbered there like 99-1. There was a few seconds of melodic silence from the shills, like, what's this Gahary guy doing here raining on our fake-consensus Shill-A-Thon?? http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/300%20%2820%29.gif The shills gradually got their game together, with Delphi gurgling that "the conspiracy theorists" had "set the narrative" right after S.Hoax; then the other 2 shills began pecking on pretend-points about how people want to believe a sexy story more than the boring truth, yada yada. It was a half-baked & transparent group-effort "answer" they cobbled together for the next couple mins. Gahary obviously caught them off guard with that point, and it probably marked the high point of the show! Thanks DaveG!!
--H H--

Lastly I've just gotta vent: Delphi's had this serious fetish lately for coohing "suuuuure, sure, suuuure (repeat ad nauseum)" during her interviews. A "suuure" count from this show alone would easily exceed the 3-digit mark, me thinks. It actually grates on... me, at least; don't know about all listeners. :-X

[slvrbugjim]

I think Deanna is very stubborn and hangs on to certain ideas for longer than she should, but I don't think she is an agent or a sellout, I think she will eventually find her way back to her old self. At least I hope so.

Nope she is a complete sell out now, she has been compromised and she has no credibility in any way

[Dachsie]

"then the other 2 shills began pecking on pretend-points about how people want to believe a sexy story more than the boring truth, yada yada. "


The official story presented to us had not one iota of "boring truth." However, the unofficial conspiracy theory that we are building is loaded with the most unsexy outrageously entertaining truth.

The 3 JOO-SHoax-Story shills are unsexy boring lies personified.

[Dachsie]

You got that right, silvrbugjim!!!


Obedience to Truth is obedience to Love

[PatColo]

Delphi commented in a thread about HalbigCo's school board meeting event. I'll just post the first 2 comments, and my comment which is 6th here, still developing:





"Newtown Board of Education Meeting: May 6, 2014." (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/05/newtown-board-of-education-meeting-may.html)


James Simon (http://www.blogger.com/profile/17023878851935505399) said...
Mrs Spingola has helped me personally with some of her health and wellness shows. I'm grateful to her for that. I'm confused about the constant character assassination of Halbig rather than addressing the sixteen questions. This has left me with serious doubts to her authenticity as a truth seeker.

Why would I bother to say that in a comment forum? Because I'm angry dam it. lol
May 8, 2014 at 11:35 AM



https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gifDelphi Deanna (http://www.blogger.com/profile/05963058800259904712) said...
I have attempted to keep my criticism on the issues rather than on Halbig's character. I have probably failed at that. None of us like to be deceived. I think that we all want the truth and that comes from hard evidence, not speculation about Christmas trees and other nonsense. Halbig's 16 questions have been answered numerous times, in the official reports, on my radio program and at this site: http://sandyhookanalysis.blogspot.com/2014/03/wolfgang-halbigs-16-questions-asked-and.html Halbig did not need to go to Newtown to get the answers. Why would he expect officials who have already answered all of his questions in the official reports to again provide answers. He has recently discredited those reports and discourages people from reading them. Yet he went to Newtown to ask some of the same officials for answers. The United Way posts all of its disbursements online. They did not need to visit the UW office to get the information. Both Halbig and Fetzer apparently feel that their trip was successful. If that is the case, given that no one answered the 16 questions, why would they consider it a success unless they really went there just for the media/police attention so that they could claim that they were thwarted yet once again? That is not evidence of a conspiracy. It is just the reasonable response of the Newtown residents who have been accused of being liars and actors who have executed a horrible hoax on the whole country. Now that is a good example of character assassination on a whopping 30,000 people. Fetzer and Halbig were bound to provoke some stoic New Englander who would cuss and lay hands on Halbig so he could file an assault and battery charge. How does any of that assist him in his alleged quest for the truth? It just makes him a victim and maybe, in his mind, gives him credibility. He and Fetzer will use the trip to bolster the claim that SH was a hoax. One must ask who has really executed a hoax and on whom?
May 8, 2014 at 2:22 PM



Pat Colo (http://www.blogger.com/profile/13211839490699366177) said...
@James Simon at 11:35 AM:

Didn't you get the memo? The Official JOO Sandy Hoax Reports are holier than the Talmud itself. Holier than this report, even:
http://i.imgur.com/XLTJQbd.jpg

Santilli: So, you've said you read the reports, and, I'm not even going by the conspiracy theories. How do we know that we're to trust those reports? Can we?

Spingola: I think that, yes, I think you can.

^ ref: http://tinyurl.com/ofw939x

Review of the May 6 DSpingola/DGahary/KJohnson/Anonymous-Wade show:
http://tinyurl.com/kkgrwxf

I've got a sneaking suspicion, that Deanna's Illinois State Lottery ship might be about to come in!
http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/05/04/ministry-of-plenty
May 8, 2014 at 9:01 PM






"Suuuuuure!" :D

[slvrbugjim]

Pat, your staying on this and calling her out is a big deal, you have made a difference well done

[PatColo]

omg, start @ 1hr
Sunday, May 11, 2014

Spingola Speaks 2014.05.11 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/05/spingola-speaks-20140511.html)

Deanna's guest didn't show, so she took calls instead.

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The Spaceman goes deeper into today’s headlines than anyone else dares to go.

Starting off with the Beltane festival and illuminati mass media control, Djibouti militairy base, DNA engineering, Noah, Hilary Clinton, Enoch, the Nephilim, Greek history, Godzilla, the serpent, Darwin, Caine, mules, more Adam and Eve, trees of life and knowledge, Noah, flood results, Satan, Caine`s seed.




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[PatColo]

^ not sure what that "Spaceman..." stuff is doing in my reply above; guessing I accidentally pasted it along with the Delphi show, and didn't notice. Too late to edit it out now (24+ hour edit limit here), so just ignore! :) ETA: ignore the whole reply #138 above. I've (re)listened to 15 mins of the Delphi show beginning at the 1hr mark as I pointed to, sans my usual explanation, and don't hear anything S.Hoax related... therefore the whole reply is baffling to review. I must've been reeel tired or something. I've bemoaned GSUS' edit policy in the past; and believe a member should be able to edit/delete a reply indefinitely, with vBulletin leaving a "Last edit: (date/time)" notation at the bottom (or in its place for deletions).


Back on the Delphi track, near the beginning of this recent show: The Sunstein-Spingola Zone at AFP 6/2/2014 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-spingola-zone-at-afp-622014.html), she tells guest James Perloff that she's working on an S.Hoax book... oh yeah! Another CIA ghost-written book, ala Piper's "False Flags...", to be attributed to Delphi! http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/cheesy.gif

Anyways, this one caught my eye, was one of the related vids on YT as I was watching something more current. Recall, KJohnson was one of the most shrill shills in his slandering of the S.Hoax Truth community.

This was posted to YT on Feb 15 so a bit dated, but nice to see KJ's spew singled out & deconstructed in the popular YT vid format... Normally I like to paste the "more info" stuff which YT uploaders provide with their vids, but now I see YT has blocked the ability to highlight said "more info", preventing copy/pasting... wtf?! :|~ There's a few paragraphs there which you'll have to read at the YT page itself. Uploader does say to advance to 10:04 to hear KJ getting owned by caller Kate Slate.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twITQmdapLY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twITQmdapLY

[PatColo]

I haven't listened to these new S.Hoax debates (not even sure where to find them ATM!), nor the following, where apparently KJohnson comes on at the end of Delphi's most recent show and discusses the recent debate(s?). Should be nauseating listening, but I'll give it a go soon... {0}


Spingola Speaks 2014.07.27 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/07/spingola-speaks-20140727.html)



Guest: 7/27: 2-3: Art from Philly (http://www.noplaceforcorruption.com/); 3-4: Suzanne Humphries, MD., Roman Bystrianyk (http://www.dissolvingillusions.com/), authors of Dissolving Illusions, Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History (http://www.amazon.com/Dissolving-Illusions-Suzanne-Humphries-ebook/dp/B00E7FOA0U/); 4-5: Keith Johnson talks about his recent "debate" with Wolfgang Halbig

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[PatColo]

I haven't listened to these new S.Hoax debates (not even sure where to find them ATM!), [...]

the debates are at AFP's blogtalkradio page. There've been 2 already, and one pending. Here's links to the first 2 completed, then to the pending. I've never really followed Jack Blood, interesting that he's been recruited onto the S.Hoax Re-Bunking team. "It's all in the official reports!!!" :D lol

Click show titles to listen, also MP3 download links inside:



Sandy Hook: Fact or Fiction (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/hotbuttondebates/2014/07/22/sandy-hook-fact-or-fiction) Dave Gahary moderates a debate between Count One, an alias, and Jim Fetzer, who tackle the controversy surrounding the Sandy Hook Elementary School event. The debate will follow this format: The moderator will ask questions to each... more (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/hotbuttondebates/2014/07/22/sandy-hook-fact-or-fiction)




Sandy Hook: Fact or Fiction (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/hotbuttondebates/2014/07/25/sandy-hook-fact-or-fiction) Dave Gahary moderates a debate between Keith Johnson and Wolfgang Halbig, who debate and discuss Wolf's upcoming trip to Hartford, Connecticut, where he will lend support to Jonathan Reich and his family and hire an attorney who... more (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/hotbuttondebates/2014/07/25/sandy-hook-fact-or-fiction)




Sandy Hook: Fact or Fiction (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/hotbuttondebates/2014/07/30/sandy-hook-fact-or-fiction) Dave Gahary moderates a debate between Jack Blood and Jim Fetzer, who tackle the controversy surrounding the Sandy Hook Elementary School event. The debate will follow this format: The moderator will ask questions to each participant where they will have no more than five minutes to present their argument and evidence. If less than the allotted time is used, it will be set aside for a less structured discussion towards the end. At the end of the debate, each participant will have no more than five minutes for their closing statement. Personal or unnecessary attacks will be met with the mute button. If there are callers, they will be taken during the final hour. Jack Blood has been a radio talk show host for the last 19 years and has interviewed some of the top experts, researchers, investigative reporters, historians, artists, whistleblowers, and political policy makers the world over, like: Jerry Brown, Oliver North, Tim Russert, Chris Matthews, Ron Paul, Paul Craig Roberts, Ray McGovern, Annie Machon, David Ray Griffin, G. Edward Griffin, Howard Zinn, Jim Marrs, Pat Buchanan, Greg Palast, Jerome Corsi, Daniel Estulin, Daniel Ellsberg, Randy Weaver and Cindy Sheehan. Jack will argue that the Sandy Hook Elementary School event was an actual mass-casualty incident. James H. Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer, has published widely on the theoretical foundations of scientific knowledge, computer science, artificial intelligence, cognitive science, and evolution and mentality. Jim is a contributor and editor at Veterans Today and hosts a radio show, "The Real Deal", M/W/F


in News (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/news)
tomorrow at 7:00 am

[PatColo]

I've seldom checked spingolaspeaks.info any more this year.... but I just rolled by spingolaspecials and found this little ditty from June 27. Host is sympathetic this time, unlike her laughable Santilli show interview (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=702049&viewfull=1#post702049). Delphi starts off noting again, how her RBN hours were cut back sharply in Jan shortly after she came out in support of the Official Joo Sandy Hoax Story, speculating about a connection between the 2 events, which I debunked here:





On Tuesday, February 25, 2014, John Stadtmiller, the owner of RBN, announced my replacement after I had broadcasted on RBN for three and a half years. Apparently, Dr. Fetzer was prophetic when he claimed that I was losing my listenership! Great, more time to do research!


DS's "...announced my replacement" language infers to the reader that she was 'fired' and no longer at RBN. My understanding is, she will still be doing a 3 hour Sunday show on RBN. Her mention of "Dr. Fetzer" in her same misleading timeline entry above, is obviously suggesting to readers that Fetzer, if not the whole 'Eeevil Sunstein-sponsored S.Hoax researchers movement PsyOp', had something to do with DS's (in fact) being replaced for her weekday show time slot.


DS chose not to mention above, that discussion of her leaving RBN has been in play since at least 9/11/13, over 4 months before 1/15/14 when DS announced her membership in the pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism tribehttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018; advance to 21:00 in this DS/MDankof interview (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?60988-great-truth-radio-podcast-blog-no-commercials%21&p=659436&viewfull=1#post659436). :rolleyes:


But DS's misleading choice of wording for her timeline item above seems to be suggesting ongoing 'vicious persecution' of herself and her pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism tribehttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, for their pretend 'minority, outside-of-the-consensus (group-think) viewpoints' LOL.



Then she defends "Robbie Parker's" performance. Then she bangs on Halbig as liar, citing "Suite-Gate" again, and a couple other very thin reasons. Then it's her usual shtick ridiculing what Sandy Hoax Truthers believe, making no mention of her own 100% belief in DJooz.gov's Official Sandy Hoax Report.

It's 50 mins,
Friday, 6/27: Deanna visits with Ryan G., host of Field Interference (https://www.youtube.com/user/fieldinterference/about) on Guerilla Media Network (http://guerillamedianetwork.com/) ~ “The Problems With Hoaxer Logic”
(MP3 (https://cloudup.com/cSMklAqoJsB)) < must first open link, can listen or download inside

[Dachsie]

For the very first time, today, I received an email notification that there was a posting in this thread that I subscribed to. I subscribed to other threads too a long time ago but never once received the email notification until today. Weird!

"But DS's misleading choice of wording for her timeline item above seems to be suggesting ongoing 'vicious persecution' of herself ..."


I have observed before that Deanna and her idol and I think big buddy, Dr. Judy Wood, both seem to have this personality characteristic of paranoia, that is, "a persecution complex."

I never was able to understand Dr. Wood's arguments in favor of her persecution by Dr. Fetzer and they always just seemed to be totally unfounded suspicions (paranoid ideations). The concrete record is that Dr. Fetzer gave Dr. Wood a full hearing of her theories on his radios shows before anyone else wood. I think he had her on his show 15 times. Yet JW had nothing but derogatory things to say about him. There were many times when I thought she owed Dr. Fetzer a "thank you" but that basic courtesy was never there.

Likewise, DS seems to hate and be very suspicous of Dr. Fetzer but never once has DS provided any solid arguments to support her suspicions. It is appears almost as if 'if Judy Wood hates Fetzer, then I do too.'


There is a recording somewhere on the web where John Stadmiller in early 2013 is complaining on his show how Spingola is always talking about what a swell fellow Hitler is and how nice and comfy the camps were. He made the statement something to the effect ..."I can't push that boulder up the hill" meaning he, as manager/owner of RBN, cannot "sell" the "Hitler is nice guy" meme. So that indicates he was becoming unhappy with her shows months before he changed her show time and cut her hours.

(I would mention that Dr. Judy Wood and her close associate, Dr. Morgan Reynolds, definitely never want any mention of "the Jews" in relation of 9-11.) Even Dr. Fetzer has not yet quite got it right in the way he often points at "the Zionists'" role in 9-11.)

There are some very anomalous appearing things going on with RBN and AFP these days.

Mike Rivero just left RBN and moved to Alex Jones land, GCNlive.com, Genesis Communications Network. So Rivero seems to have, in his own way, "jumped shark" and given up his longstanding exposition of the Jews and the Zionists to go back to GCN that has very tight controls on what their show hosts say and do not say about Israel, Zionists, and Jews.

For AFP, John Friend was fired and he wrote that he is quite OK with that because of "AFP's" acceptance of the official Sandy Hook story. It continues to be a great puzzle to me why oh so anti-Zionist appearing AFP supports Sandy Hook official story. I understand that AFP has stopped having its radio show so that is one less venue for Spingola spew.

[PatColo]

I have observed before that Deanna and her idol and I think big buddy, Dr. Judy Wood, both seem to have this personality characteristic of paranoia, that is, "a persecution complex."

I didn't mention in my brief synopsis, but at one point in the Field Interference interview, Delphi-Deanna ridicules how Halbig "lost his job" (he and biz partner fell out over WH's SHoax activity, IIRC) just days after her interview with him; and she says something like "Oh poor Halbig, lost his job!", inferring she disapproves of his public disclosure, & apparent "sympathy seeking".... LOL, hypocrite much, Delphi??:D

I recall hearing that Jewdy Woods is, well, a joo. And if you "read her book" as I've repeatedly heard Delphi urge of JW's critics, you'd be looking at shelling out over $45 (http://www.amazon.com/Towers-Evidence-Directed-Free-energy-Technology/dp/0615412564) to her and her joo publishers.... JW doesn't let it run free as PDF on the web like most Truthy authors who firstly want to get the word out, in addition to offering a hard copy for sale.

I never cared much for Rivero's radio shows; found him too preachy and know-it-all.

I did start a thread on JFriend's AFP firing,
Thread: John Friend fired from American Free Press (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?78597-John-Friend-fired-from-American-Free-Press)

[PatColo]

I initially passed on listening to this solo Delphi-Deanna show (Anonymous-Wade was evidently unavailable to tag-team with her...:rolleyes:), as description suggests she's going to school us (S.Hoax skeptics) again, fox/sheep's-clothing-like again, about deception. delphi, sunstein, yada, yada. But I was at the bottom of my more-desirable-podcast queue, and decided to listen to at least a bit of this show, to see if my expectation was right. It was... as evidenced by the first several minutes.



Nov 17 2014
Spingola and Friends, #20 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/11/spingola-and-friends-11172014.html)

Deanna talked about disinformation, misinformation, ‘alternative’ media and shared some information from her new book which is now on the way to the publisher. Download (http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/7/018/show_7018633.mp3)




She announced her spook agency ghost-written new book went to the publishers that day, titled "Screening Sandy Hook: Causes and Consequences."

I'm only 10 mins into this show now, and don't expect to suffer through the 2 hours. Already it's a bunch of her same, joowey Flip-The-Script-And-Projecthttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 shtick... If anyone suffers through the whole thing, kindly post any highlights. :)

FauxCapitalist (Jason Erb) posted the only 2 comments about this show at Mamis (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/11/spingola-and-friends-11172014.html):





2 comments:

http://img1.blogblog.com/img/openid16-rounded.gif (http://fauxcapitalist.com/)
fauxcapitalist.com (http://fauxcapitalist.com/) said... Regarding the safety of vaccines, there was that school administrator that Alex Jones had interviewed several years back (Jones is disinfo, but just citing the source), and the administrator had admitted to not vaccinating his kids for Hepatitis-B, despite demanding that parents vaccinate their kids for it in order for them to return to school. I think he may have also said he had an exemption for his daughter for the HPV vaccine, as well.

Point being that he wasn't concerned about all vaccines, but about particular ones, and the same goes for me. I have no medical expertise whatsoever, but I just look at the numbers of measles and polio cases before and after the vaccines, for instance, and at the huge spike in autism after the late 70s, when several vaccines were already being given. I think the data shows that the problem mostly occurred later, like when a second MMR shot was recommended, and many other shots were added to the schedule, then overwhelming the immune system of more people.

I don't think they're all bad, such as the current polio vaccine (the original one was contaminated with SV-40) and the diptheria vaccine. They all contain adjuvants, which are aluminum-based compounds here in Canada, according to the government website, and you could do without them, for sure, but it's about the risk-reward benefit, and some things are tolerable in small amounts, up to a point.

The main point is that it should be a matter of conscience, for adults and for parents, and for those states that only allow a medical and religious exemption, but not based on conscience, just tell them it's based on your religious convictions, and under the First Amendment and similar provisions under the State constitutions, they have no business in questioning your religious beliefs.
November 18, 2014 at 8:14 PM (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/11/spingola-and-friends-11172014.html?showComment=1416359642655#c671953592 495156106) http://img1.blogblog.com/img/openid16-rounded.gif (http://fauxcapitalist.com/)

fauxcapitalist.com (http://fauxcapitalist.com/) said... It has indeed been odd, at least initially, to see Alex Jones give a platform to those saying crisis actors were used at Sandy Hook, as he initially did not even discuss that, just as he had later never discussed actors at the Boston Marathon when his fellow GCN radio host and "friend" (not reciprocated by Jones), Dr. Stan Monteith had outed Jeff Bauman as an actor based on his 35 years as an orthopedic surgeon, and Jones was silent on that.

I think there is strong evidence there were actors used at Sandy Hook, though I am not conclusively sure as in the case of Boston. While Michael Collins Piper and Keith Johnson tried to raise doubt about Robbie Parker's reaction, saying everyone reacts differently, I found that to be a case of special pleading, as obviously most parents would not walk out of a building smiling, and suddenly put on a sad face and start crying after one of your kids has been brutally killed once you realize the cameras are on.

Very unfortunately, Joel Skousen, whom I haven't seen any evidence for of being a disinfo agent, created unnecessary cover and excuse for Parker's reaction, saying he is a good Mormon. The fact is, the statements of opinion leaders like Skousen and Michael Collins Piper have a real effect on people going against their first impressions and their own independent judgment.

Regarding Jones' not only sudden reversal in not talking about crisis actors at Sandy Hook, but promotion of that idea, it seemed odd until I thought more about it, based on my long study of him and his operation.

As Piper had pointed out, Cass Sunstein was indeed concerned about conspiracy theories surrounding Israel. So by having outspoken pro-Israeli Wolfgang Halbig at the forefront of his discussions on the matter, Jones is accomplishing his goal as a known Jewish Zionist disinfo agent.

Then, he can go and discredit the idea by doing a stupid and deliberate thing of posting an article by someone else writing for his operation, claiming that the FBI said no one was killed at Sandy Hook, when it was just a matter of particular statistics collected in a certain way not showing any deaths reported to them.

And, he also does a great job of fooling anyone who will reject the crisis actor theory just because he's talking about it, until you get past the initial puzzlement that I mentioned.
November 18, 2014 at 8:36 PM (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/11/spingola-and-friends-11172014.html?showComment=1416360985457#c777463381 2688870071)

[PatColo]

Dr. Tracy posted this new article. It's funny, and the reason I'm dropping the article in this Delphi/Shark thread: Tracy highlights the aggressive anti-SHoax-skepticism of "CW Wade", who above in this thread I took to calling "Anonymous-Wade", and who Delphi had on as guest several times this past winter when she was part of the compromised fake-truther cabal bashing SHoax skepticism.

I've listened to a couple Delphi shows recently where she spoke disparagingly of (SHoax) skeptics, who "see a youtube uploaded by an anonymous user, and those truthers immediately take it all as fact." Well, who's Anonymous-Wade? And who's the blogger "Poseiden" who Delphi cited as the source of her anti-WHalbig campaign in claiming that the "references" at WH's (former) website, were dead people?! Delphi did say in these couple recent shows, that she "understands some people's need to remain anonymous, due to their desire not to lose their jobs or otherwise get harassed..." So it's okay for her to use anon characters in pursuing her compromised agenda; but not okay for her 'opponents'... pretty joowey! :eek:


December 10, 2014 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/12/10/sandy-hook-documentary-isnt-about-sandy-hook-the-fortress-and-whats-inside/)
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The release of the documentary, “We Need to Talk about Sandy Hook” by the group, Independent Media Solidarity has become a story of aggressive copyright fraud, a massive video upload movement and an unexpected Internet solidarity more than a story of the controversial Sandy Hook event itself.

The weakest link in a chain is the one you choose to break.


Lengthy article, but here's the Anonymous-Wade part:


[...]
It’s known who is doing the targeting of certain online content, in Dutchsinse’s case and in the case of IMS and others. But it isn’t only Lenny Pozner and the HONR network (http://www.honr.com/) that’s working hard to oppose the efforts of IMS and others to speak freely about the Sandy Hook event. Take, for example one CW Wade. Wade began to appear first through his YouTube channel, Wadesvids. His very first video was a lengthy analysis of the official report in which he attempted to reconcile as many of the anomalies discovered by independent researchers with the official report. From there, he graduated to appearing on radio shows and podcasts where his position as a supporter of the official account of events was cemented. Over the following months CW Wade began to establish a number of online blogs which he has devoted to the singular topic of Sandy Hook “hoaxers” and “stalkers.” Through first one and now a handful of blogs, he slanders many people researching Sandy Hook with an obvious proclivity to bend the words he uses to better portray his subjects as “stalkers.”


One example is an article in which he accuses one researcher of soliciting the help of another, whereby he claims they put a “…stalking hit…” on someone related to the Sandy Hook event. I’ve heard examples of stalking, but this is truly the first time I’ve heard that one stalker may have asked someone else to stalk on their behalf. It’s clear that CW Wade’s intent is to do as much damage as he can to people questioning Sandy Hook. The answer to whether anyone in the IMS group knows who CW Wade is working for isn’t being revealed.


In a bold move that only leads people to further suspect deception, Wade published another blog that this time he acquired a domain name for. The reason why a proprietary domain name was a requirement in this case was that it was needed to create the impression of being a regional news site. Writing articles now for the “Newtown Post-Examiner,” Wade appears to be making an attempt to pose as a writer working for a non-biased news organization. The strategy appears to be paying off to some degree. A few news stories on the web cite quotes from the Newtown Post-Examiner. They don’t bother to clarify that it’s a blog and likely doesn’t employ an editorial review process.


Incidents of this online persona slandering people who produce content questioning the Sandy Hook event is not only impacting the individuals but, by association anyone in the growing community of those who question the event. Making these acts even more sinister is the possibility that they are part of a coordinated effort working with other groups, one of which was mentioned previously.


http://tyrannynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/cease.jpg


When one member of IMS had received two copyright strikes made by Lenny Pozner resulting in two videos being taken offline, he noted something CW Wade said in one of only two exchanges they had with each other. Only the member and the claimant, Lenny Pozner knew that they had been saddled with two copyright strikes. In closing a comment made to the member, CW Wade asked, “How many strikes is that now?” Without explaining exactly how, the comment made it clear that CW Wade received this information from Lenny Pozner. It’s likely that CW Wade didn’t wish to make this fact known. It doesn’t seem all that far-fetched considering that Wade has allowed his blogs to be used as a pulpit by Lenny.


The relationship between Lenny Pozner and the HONR Network has been well established. In what is unlikely to be a simple case of showing appreciation for having shared values, CW Wade openly supports the HONR Network which has even been the subject of articles by Wade. Because Lenny Pozner is engaged in making false and illegal claims against members of IMS and their supporters, and CW Wade has made numerous statements that slander IMS members as well as others, they are engaging in a criminal conspiracy. CW Wade has openly called for IMS members to be the targets of law enforcement actions, claimed that they are lying to their respective subscribers and that it’s just a matter of time before they WILL commit acts of violence. IMS requests that these claims be examined carefully. They state that not a single shred of evidence exists to support them and that, to view them individually isn’t likely to reveal Wade’s true intent. But, to view them within the context of Wade’s single-minded body of work shows clearly his intent to manipulate public opinion of those who dare to question officialdom.

What’s in a Name and Why it’s a Very Serious Matter

[...]

[Dachsie]

Correct me if I have the wrong impression, but isn't Deanna Spingola sort of a thing of the past now? Haven't a lot of people just dropped listening to her at all since she jumped shark. Also we do not seem to see many traces of Michael Collins Piper anymore. Same goes for American Free Press.

It seems like their stance on Sandy Hook caused almost everyone to drop them completely.

They lost ALL their credibility despite all the seeming good work they did do over the years. PatColo, you seem to still be following Spingola quite a bit so maybe you can tell me if my impression that many people have abandoned the SHES jumpers altogether is correct or not.

Piper's book about Sandy Hook and his whole straw-man schtick was just so so weak. Yes, Sandy Hook does seem to scream crisis actors all over the place, but none of the researchers have what I would call slam-dunk proof of crisis actors, as I think some of us have on Boston event. I want some people to come forward who personally knew or knew of one of these crisis actors before the event and who can give damning proofs about their life before the event.

This video, We Need to ...., does get very close to proving crisis actors but I do not think we have nailed solid proof yet. I hope that happens soon.

[PatColo]

^ I have no means of knowing Delphi's listener numbers. I listen depending on the guest-- usually skip over anti-Big-Pharma/vaccine/psychotropic guests, which seems to be most of her guests this year after he S.Hoax campaign died down, as I feel I already got that message-- Big Pharma is eeeevil. And with these guests, I don't care to listen to her trying to salvage her anti-S.Hoax-skepticism campaign by citing the (fictional?) Adam Lanza's supposed psychotropic experience... again! :(

But yesterday for instance she had on Eric Hunt, who has an interesting story and a new holohoax video. And I suffered through her Nov 17 solo show I described in #145 above, mostly for the benefit of this thread. That was the main show where she ragged on (SHoax) skeptics again, accusing them (us) of believing everything we see in (anonymous) youtube clips. Meanwhile she waves around the official jooz.gov SHoax report as the source for her whole "S.Hoax was REAL!" case! :D

I didn't read MCPiper's book; none of them in fact. I never trusted the guy, his raspy AJ-esque voice or his fake chuckling every other sentence. Years before S.Hoax MCP was on a really odd & unconvincing attack mode on Chris Bollyn, who I've always respected. As I said elsewhere, MCP is, I believe, a homosexual drunk who I think is in his last few months/years of life. Recall his "health emergency" last Jan which had him cancel an S.Hoax "debate" with JFriend & JFetzer; and he claims he can barely walk.

As to actors at SH, the strongest candidate seems to be GRosen, who got the most TV face time after the event, and who's affiliated with FEMA, and is a screen actors guild member, and on the board of Newton's Cox Cable. RParker and the others is just prima-facia, based on their "performances," and they've all disappeared it seems. It seems they all (should have) pulled down 6 figures in pity donations via United Way and their own donation pages.

Separately, Rense had on Pete ShamShilly last night, who I feel V.Eastwood & S.Posel effectively outed as a spook agent... even though he was the only host who asked Delphi tough S.Hoax questions, resulting in odd/laughable answers from her. What's PS on to discuss?

Listen (http://www.talkshoe.com/resources/talkshoe/images/swf/lastEpisodePlayer.swf?fileUrl=http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/gtwtgx17t0/Rense.20141211.2of3.mp3) Download (http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/gtwtgx17t0/Rense.20141211.2of3.mp3) Hour 2 - Pete Santilli (http://petersantilli.com/) - Sheriff Reveals He Was An FBI Agent

Oh the irony! :D It does Rense's cred no good having PS hosting a regular show on his network.

[Glass]

This video, We Need to ...., does get very close to proving crisis actors but I do not think we have nailed solid proof yet. I hope that happens soon.

Is there a need to show crisis actors OR is there a specific type you are looking for? There are many types of actors. Character actors, Action actors, Voice actors, Hand actors, Stunt actors. I think several of the key participants in the SH narrative have been shown as actors, even in that movie. Robbie was outed as one. I think Gene was outed as an amateur one although I might be mistaken. I'm confident there were several others who were actors/entertainers. I don't think you need to be maimed or have lost a loved one to be an actor.

[Dachsie]

I do not use the term "crisis actor" in a formal way. That is just the term usually used in all of this. By the term I simply mean anybody who gets up there and claims their child was killed or who is not who they say they are and who is scripted and who plans to become an anti-gun lobbyist or activist after the event. Just generally someone who lies about the event, whatever role they played.

With my loose definition of the term, we can see it takes in just about every politician and even a lot of alterative radio show hosts.

By solid proof I mean proof like these two items on the Boston Marathon "bombing."

1.

Super disgusting “American” filth “Liz” working hard for your tax dollars.

Super witness “Liz” just happened to be a live on the scene at the finish line of the Boston “Bombing”

AND

Super witness “Liz” just happened also to be live on the scene at the Watertown shootout 4 days later on April 19, 2013

https //www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbqVqI1cWXc#t=311

CNN Caught Red Handed Interviewing Crisis Actor Boston False Flag
______________

2.

Super disgusting “American” cowboy hat wearing filth, Carlos Arrendondo, working hard for your tax dollars in Boston …

Good clear photos and video of Carlos Arrendondo, including photos with Jeff Bauman.

http //abcnews.go.com/US/cowboy-hat-wearing-boston-marathon-hero-wife-suffering/story?id=23120265


HIS BOSTON BOMING ACTING STINT WAS SIX MONTHS AFTER HIS WORKING AS AN ACTOR IN NATHAN FOLKS' MOVIE acting role in Hollywood feature length movie,

The Prosecution of an American President, Here's the trailer - note movie release date.

http //www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9jkJ0wjtHQ
Reply


___________

Here is a guy who claims to be present at 9-11 and Boston event -- though I am not as impressed with this as solid proof --

____

Super witness Steve Silva just happened to be live on the scene witness as “first plane hit” the WTC North Tower on 9-11
AND
Super witness Steve Silva just happened also to be live on the finish line at the Boston Marathon “Bombing.
https //www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P_qU2J8DvU#t=166
9/11 and Boston Bombings Super Witness Steve Silva!

[monochrome]

I defended Spingola before, but I have given up, I fear you are correct in your assesment of her, too bad, I really used to like her.

[PatColo]

^ you defended her wrt her (proclaimed) S.Hoax position?

She only rolled out her membership in the SH re-bunking disinfo cabal in Jan of this year, ~13 months after the 'event'; see my OP in this thread. In the ~2 years prior to that, I listened religiously; she was at or near #1 on my "Brand-Name Truther Cred Continuum." I was initially just discombobulated, but as the weeks went on, as she got more brazen & vicious in her disingenuousness and text-book disinfo rule usage; her attacks on Smallstorm & Halbig, her "tag-team disinfo roundtable op" shows with the likes of MCP, KJohnson, & Anonymous-Wade, her hypocrisy.... she lost me as a fan. Now I'll just listen if her guest interests me, and most of them haven't this year (mostly anti-pharma broken record guests).

[monochrome]

I defended her as a person, I thought she was good but misguided about the SH issue, after listening her latest offerings, my confidence in her good judgement has gone to zero, she was one of my most trusted sources in the alternative media, now it is all gone.

[PatColo]

They're BAAAaaaAAAck!! :o

Another case of, "I don't wanna listen, but morbidly curious, like rubber-necking past a highway accident, or giving rotten milk a sniff before dumping." I'll get around to listening later, maybe; don't really care for the consequential mood change atm. :) Betcha they don't take callers?! At least not real, random/un-pre-planned callers... Hell even AFP's Dave Gahary told them in a similar roundtable a half year/whatever ago, how much they're despised by 99% of the Truth/Patriot Community, which caused them several seconds of glorious silence before they slowly cobbled together some weak sauce about "denial" and how S.Hoax Truthers' fantasies are more exciting than the boring truth (which the official jooz.gov S.Hoax report tells with 100% veracity... lol).



Spingola Speaks 2014.12.14 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/12/spingola-speaks-20141214.html)





C. W. Wade (http://sandyhookanalysis.blogspot.com/)of Sandy Hook Facts (http://sandyhookfacts.com/) and Keith Johnson talk about Sandy Hook, See Deanna's video critique (http://www.spingola.com/Unraveling1.html) and notes on Halbi (http://www.spingola.com/halbignotes.html)g; People can easily ascertain that Sandy Hook Hoax ~ Walking In Circles Around Sandy Hook Firehouse (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZRa5_DHgl4) is a looped video.

News Page (http://mynewspage.wordpress.com/websites/deanna-spingola/) Deanna's site (http://www.spingola.com/radio_schedule.html)
Official chat room (http://spingola.chatango.com/) Spingola Speaks .Info (http://spingolaspeaks.info/)


32k CF Download (http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/s5zw17j664/Spingola.Speaks.2014.12.14.mp3)


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Actually though, while S.Hoax Shill-A-Thons like that ^ will drive a sane person nuts; this following 3.5 hr roundtable with numerous (4-5?) S.Hoax Truthers will help set your head right again. :) Somewhere around the middle, they get into the above 3 sold-out shills (Delphi-Deanna, Anonymous-Wade, KJohnstein); pretty good deconstruction of their satanic game/tactics. KJohnstein gets the most discussion, I guess he recently had a "debate" with Halbig, where KJ was all screechy like a young female chimp? I'll need to find that I guess. :rolleyes:



We'll Do it LIVE! The Real Alternative Podcast - Sandy Hook Anniversary (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/12/well-do-it-live-real-alternative.html)



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EDIT, about 1/2 hour into the Delphi-Deanna/KJohnstein/Anonymous-Wade Shill-A-Thon now... Delphi opens 10 mins solo, schooling us about the vitriol coming from the 'hoaxers' (another Flip-The-Script-And-Project gambit, considering the hoax she and her tribe are trying to sustain...), then the other 2 shills come on, soon enough it's a Halbig ad-hom fest, Delphi even offers how she has a contact, whose name she feels it would be "unethical to reveal" lol, but her seekrit-contact told her that they think Halbig is losing his mind, yada yada. Then it proceeds to Johnstein telling the tale of his appearance on infowars nightly news a couple nights ago, how WH kept interrupting, needed to have his mic cut... I thought, funny, that roughly what the 5(?) S.Hoax Truthers said about Johnstein's behavior in the appearance! :D

So I thought I should find this infowars show first and watch, then return to Delphi & Co's Shill-A-Thon. Here's infowars:

The Ultimate Sandy Hook Debate As The 2nd Anniversary Looms (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aK0P-WxjU8)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aK0P-WxjU8

The Ultimate Sandy Hook Debate As The 2nd Anniversary Looms
TheAlexJonesChannel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg)
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Published on Dec 12, 2014
Rob Dew moderates a debate between American Free Press writer Keith Johnson (http://www.AmericanFreePress.Net) and Sandy Hook Investigator Wolfgang Halbig (http://www.sandyhookjustice.com). This marathon interview covers many of the questions that investigators are asking about the events in Newtown CT as we approach the 2nd anniversary.

Internet Censors Viral Sandy Hook Truth Documentary - http://www.infowars.com/internet-censors-viral-sandy-hook-truth-documentary/

[PatColo]

Sonny&Cher - The Beat Goes On (live) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to0irFedGqc)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to0irFedGqc

[PatColo]

I actually wrote up the following review of DelphiCo's Dec 14 S.Hoax Shill-A-Thon show, about 2 weeks ago... then had both 'puter & GSUS formatting problems posting it. It 'didn't paste well' from the text editor I wrote it in. So I saved it and had to run... then later I 'imagined' I posted it already! So posting now; here again is the MP3 of the show:
Download (http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/s5zw17j664/Spingola.Speaks.2014.12.14.mp3)


KEY:
DS: Delphi-Deanna
KJ: Keith Johnstein
A-W: Anonymous-Wade
WNTTASH: "We Need To Talk About Sandy Hook", recently published S.Hoax docu
FTS&P: "Flip The Script & Project"

Transcribed quotes from DelphiCo's S.Hoax Shill-A-Thon in RED; my comments in BLACK.

____________________


3:40 DS: “Now, regarding the Sandy Hook parents, and the Newtown community in general. Both have been the target of some of the most hateful, profane rhetoric. There's no place, whatever one's views are, for vilifying other people. I have been guilty to a certain extent, despite the fact that I have tried to focus on the evidence, rather than on personalities.” Heh, tell that to W.Halbig (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=695007&viewfull=1#post695007)... and to all the sincere SH truthers who you & your DelphiCo cabal collectively smear (FTS&P) as seeking to deceive, seeking to profit, gullible to every fallacious youtube CT video, yada, yada. :rolleyes:


6:24: DS: “Some people have suggested that the parents should not have been speaking out about gun control. Which would be like saying that Candy Lightner should not have started Mothers Against Drunk Driving, after a drunk driver killed her 13 year old daughter, and sped away.” By DS' fallacious analogy, Candy Lighter should have started “Mothers Against Automobiles.” DS demonstrates she actually knows this already, when at 6:45, she recites the slogan, “Guns do not shoot people. People shoot people.”


7:28 DS:“If one has an alternative view in the alternative media, he, she, is often ostracized, the target of death threats, and character assassination, and subtler attacks.” DS, again, seeks to posture as being the victim of poisekution, merely for embracing an “alternative view” re Sandy Hoax. She attempts to FTS&P, trying to reverse-project the independent & virtuous qualities of the SH skeptic/research community, onto herself; meanwhile hoping no one notices that the 'independent/alternative view' she (proclaims to) hold re SH, is in fact the zion.gov narrative straight down the line. 'Have you read the Official Zion.gov SH Report? It's all there!' lol.


21:30 KJ speaks ill of the “We Need to Talk About Sandy Hook” (WNTTASH) documentary (though he declines to name it, obviously fearing that would backfire by turning new people on to it, and subsequently waking up to S.Hoax...); says it's not being taken down from YT and Co because they're 'getting too close to the truth' and consequent 'censorship' which he asserts is a gov action not private industry. He 'plays dumb' re the fascistic combining of corps like joogle/YT, and zion.gov. Asserts the docu is being taken down because of copyright violation, IE use of joozmedia network video, music, pictures etc. 'Plays dumb' again about how copyright infringement complaints (to YT&Co) must be initiated by the copyright holding entity(s), not by the likes of “Lenny Pozner”, or Anonymous-Wade, or even by KJ himself. KJ at 21:50, “They've got an illegal venture going on here, ...”; apparently NOT referring to the fraud committed by PoznerCo in making copyright claims against works which don't contain material for which PoznerCo hold any copyright! KJ promises that a comprehensive, epic re-bunking of WNTTASH will be forthcoming.


29:25 DS (re Halbig): “I have talked with people who are really in the school safety, aaah, field; and I have communicated with them; and I think it would be unethical of me to share anybody's name that I communicated with; but one of the statements of one of these 'real experts' said, 'I have to laugh some at the Wolfgang Halbig issues, and quite honestly I have seen a couple of issues with him come across my desk lately, and truly believe he may be losing it', and the email goes on and on, and, and he says, 'Halbig is not the expert that he claims to be; and had nothing whatsoever to do with the Columbine investigation.' Anyway, we do have to go to a 3 minute break, and we'll be right back after a word from our sponsors.” Sooo, lessee here; DS chose to share with the listening public, 'rumors' that 1) WH may be losing his mind, and 2) WH is a fraud professionaly, and 3) WH actually had no role in the Columbine investigation. All “sourced” by (one of...) her supposed (anonymous) 'real school safety experts' with whom she claims she's been in contact; but who she claims to believe it would be 'unethical' of her to identify.... oh and also, she's against ad-hom attacks on her opponents... OOOOH-Kay. :rolleyes:


32:30 KJ speaks of his website NewtownPostExaminer.com, which James Tracy in his article “Sandy Hook Documentary Isn’t About Sandy Hook: The Fortress and What’s Inside (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/12/10/sandy-hook-documentary-isnt-about-sandy-hook-the-fortress-and-whats-inside/)” erroneously accredited to Anonymous-Wade. KJ clarifies that it's his site and it came online in May. So KJ, why the purposefully misleading sounding name for this domain name you apparently purchased, with your own supposedly scarce money?


36:35 DS re WH: “I admit, in the beginning of the program, my opening statements; I was kind of rough on him when I had him on my program. And yet, I have seen others, other hosts, treat you (assuming KJ?) and other people just as roughly, and I've never really seen any criticism.” DS opted not to identify any of the multiple shows where she's seen KJ treated 'just as roughly' as her disgraceful treatment of Halbig (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=695007&viewfull=1#post695007). Probably because there were no such shows. Perhaps she's referring to one of the couple of 'S.Hoax debate' shows, which were rigidly formatted, with neutral host/moderators, and where KJ (& M.C.Piper) got his arse righteously handed to him by the opposing debater?


38:38 A-W: “But there is a real dark side which leads this 'hoax movement', [...]” Here, Anonymous-Wade tries to FTS&P the 'dark' qualities of his own S.Hoax Re-Bunker team's paymasters, onto the S.Hoax Truth community.


45:00 A-W describes the SH Truth community as being psychopaths & stalkers, such that if one finds out who he is they'll publish all his personal details in a website or YT vid “[...] and then 12 of their psychopaths will arrive. And that's exactly what they do to these people. Just normal people who take their children to school in the morning, suddenly have some weirdo in their mom's basement calling them up, […]. And, they're just despicable people in real life, and it translates into what they do on the internet.”


46:25 DS: “Well I have not really even; I know people have put up websites, about me, and I have not even visited those websites because, well quite frankly I know I'm not an agent; I'm not the C-word, I know this, so I don't have to read what other people think of me, because I know who I am.” DS is presumably referring, at least in part, to this “website” (discussion thread at a precious metals discussion forum (http://gold-silver.us/forum/forum.php), actually), and I don't see where anyone here has called her the generically disparaging C-word. The "agent" part is completely self-evident already, and yes we do like to keep things reality-based around here, wrt D-D-D-Delphi-and-the-Shills (sung like, 'Benny and the Jets'). If there are other “websites” which specifically discuss Delphi's relationship with Sandy Hoax, please advise! Readers here can also judge for yourselves the veracity of Delphi's “I have not even visited those websites” claim, and from that, draw conclusions about her willingness to knowingly tell bold-faced lies, with a sincere face/tone. :( Tell us more tales about your numerous (but anonymous...) 'REAL school safety expert' contacts, Delphi! lol


50:00 KJ:“And I should warn you Professor Fetzer that in your state of Wisconsin, 'defamation' is a 'criminal' offense! So get ready, pal!” :o


51:20 DS embarks on answering a question she claims to have been asked several times, re: would she allow her dead child to remain in a pool of blood for 16 hours... long sobby answer short: DS claims she'd prefer to identify her dead child from a photograph. Lots of appeal-to-emotion hyperbole here about the partying 'suffering' which the Sandy Hoax actors 'parents' are enduring, and will for the rest of their lives (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/16/sandy-hook-free-homes-and-big-bucks-incentives-for-leaders-and-players/)...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhTqMoccVmY



55:00 DS: “And I cannot believe personally, that the HoloHoax Revisionists like MYSELF 'hoaxers' are so callous, that they're not considering, 'hey you know what, this did happen, and what the heck are we doing? Re-victimizinghttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, every time that we bring something up, some kind of HoloHoax 'hoaxer' argument, we are re-victimizinghttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018 these poor persecuted JOOOZ, suffocating under the weight of their swindled “reparations” people, and their dear, precious children! SHAME ON ME!!“ 'nuff said... :rolleyes:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VnBs6C0Qjc4/Uy2o7_P3VRI/AAAAAAAADKc/z9BXvsUPYLQ/s1600/Holohoax+brainwashing.gif



57:35 KJ re SH Truth Seekers: “See, they're indoctrinated through television! You know, they blame the American people, they say 'Oh they're sheeple, they believe everything they're told because they've been brainwashed through television.' No, the 'hoaxers' have been brainwashed through television!” More FTS&P from KJ, making his reality-inverting case that SH Truth seekers are gullible due to TV brainwashing; meanwhile KJ hopes it goes unnoticed that his agenda is propping up the pretend-veracity of the exact zion.gov/joozmedia/TV Sandy Hoax narrative which 80/90/whatever percent of American 'sheeple' believe unquestioningly. It's all in the Official SH Report, folks! lol


http://i.imgur.com/XLTJQbd.jpg




58:00 KJ, finishing another appeal-to-emotion rant: “'Hoaxers' are the stupidest people on the planet! I swear!”


1:07:40 KJ: “First off, Halbig believes the hole (in the SHES window by the main entrance door) is too small,” DS interjects: “Well it would be for him!” haha, Delphi slipped her little “Halbig's a FATSO!!” ad-hom attack in there. Badum-bum.

[Dachsie]

Nice work, PatColo.

DS said

"“Well I have not really even; I know people have put up websites, about me, and I have not even visited those websites because, well quite frankly I know I'm not an agent;"

I have stayed away from GCN, RBN and Spingola altogether now for several months but I remember how she seemed to be lurking around several different websites apparently searching around for when her name was mentioned in discussions. She used to pop up from out of the blue from her slithering lurking position at Mami's Shit website.
(Something went terribly wrong with Mami's site and the free expression of all opinions stopped.) I exchanged a couple of short emails with her and I always signed my full real name in the body of the email. She communicated dishonestly with me. She is a manipulator and a stealth operator. It is this stealth "co-dependent" type personality
(FTS&P and play the victim card) of hers that makes me question her "objective facts" on the subjects she covers in her articles and books and relates on her radio shows.

As for all the people who push the Zio.gov official narrative of Sandy Hook, I find it unbelievable that these people (now includes Jack Blood I understand) came to such a ridiculous stance randomly, individually and independently. There is some kind of coercion or "deals" going on behind the scenes that we do not know about and these people have been bought off or forced in some way to take this position at the cost of having a voice in the alternative media.

I think American Free Press is a particularly stealth, twisted operation and they, I think, are very much involved in forcing or coercing certain people in certain directions. Remember Mark Lane is a Jewish Zionist.

I hate to say it, but even certain alternative media operations that APPEAR to speaking openly and honestly about the Zionist / Jew / Israel / Mossad involvement in bad bad things happening in USA or on behalf of USA foreign policy are really part of the sophisticated twisted manipulations and control of the Zionist / Jew / Israel / Mossad entities.

[Jerrylynnb]

Deanna checked in over at Mami's entry exposing that Pozner kid who "died" at Sandy Hook and then again in Pakistan.

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=6855258153222399931

Her response was non-responsive (wait until she publishes her book) - it looks like she finds herself in an untenable position and she just cannot bring herself to admit she got sucked into that Sandy Hook thing hook, line, and sinker.

I find myself laughing anytime I hear her voice now - I used to be an ardent fan. Too bad.

[PatColo]

^ Oh yeah, I forgot about Delphi's commenting in numerous mami's threads, esp on her shows dealing with S.Hoax. I've quoted & linked to several of her comments above in this thread.

In the Noah Pozner dies AGAIN thread you linked to, there's presently 6 comments including hers, and the other 5 are all disparaging of her (proclaimed) S.Hoax position... no wonder, what a meaningless, vaccuous "comment"-- more like a plug for her spook ghost-written book!




Deanna (http://www.blogger.com/profile/05963058800259904712) said...I do not find this the least bit surprising. In as much as my book is still in the editing process and I have addressed this kind of an issue in my book, all I would have to do is add a sentence and the link to the video. Thanks Satanic... People have really misunderstood what is in my upcoming book which hopefully will be out in early February.
January 2, 2015 at 4:48 PM





Here's the N. Pozner entry at Dr. Tracy's blog, with 44 comments presently,


January 2, 2015 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/01/02/sandy-hooks-noah-pozner-dead-in-december-16-taliban-attack/)
Sandy Hook’s Noah Pozner Dead in December 16 Taliban Attack (http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/01/02/sandy-hooks-noah-pozner-dead-in-december-16-taliban-attack/) 44 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/01/02/sandy-hooks-noah-pozner-dead-in-december-16-taliban-attack/#comments)

[Jerrylynnb]

Well, Deanna added a couple of more comments, trying to somehow sound like a real investigative reporter and all - she's even hinting that maybe she's overlooked something and maybe, uh, well, we'll just have to wait for her book.

This double photo thing was like a slap in the face to me - does anyone remember that silly movie titled "Wag the Dog"? I thought it was somewhat entertaining, but, I didn't give it any actual credibility as to how the public is fooled so massively - but, now, I'm not so sure. It is like maybe they (them hollywood jews) were telling us, in the form of a slapstick movie, how they have been "handling" we gullible americans for a long time, and laughing at us all the while because they up and showed us their hand and WE DIDN'T SEE IT! It still seems too fantastic to be real, but, I am starting to wonder. What if most of what we see on TV and the internet (that has any impact) is pure made up bullshit? Damn! What's a fellow to do?

[Jerrylynnb]

Well ain't that the shits!

My link (above) to Deanna's comments on Mami's no longer works!!!
What the fuck? And that posting on Mami's (about the kid that died twice) no longer has ANY COMMENTS posted!!! Did delcroix decide to CENSOR any badmouthing of Deanna? What is this world coming to when Mami's starts censoring comments?
Shore lotta' thangs agoin' round here.

If anyone has any clout over at Mami's, find out what the hell is going on over there?

[PatColo]

EDIT: Jerrylynnb: I just saw your post above (which begins a new page of this thread), after I posted the following. Noticed the whole blog entry is nuked.

I haven't posted anything at mami's for at least 1/2 a year; lost the password of the gmail account I was using, and haven't been sufficiently motivated to register a new one with joogle.

Might be worthwhile posting this little mami's/delphi story at Tracy's blog.

EDIT #2: I jumped the gun on saying mami's deleted the whole blog entry; as I was word-searching (CTRL-F) each "Older Posts" page for "Pozner", which does not appear in the headliine or text below the YT video.
Sandy Hook Victim Dies Again In Pakistan Massacre ?!? (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/01/sandy-hook-victim-dies-again-in.html)All comments are nuked, and it's closed to new comments. Still begs the question, why?!

I did post the story of Delphi/Mami's at the memoryholeblog post for this Pozner story a few hours ago; still "Awaiting Moderation" it seems. If/when it appears, I'll reply to it with that amendment. My same comment there also links to my DelphiCo Shill-A-Thon podcast review here, #156 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=749721&viewfull=1#post749721).





Deanna checked in over at Mami's entry exposing that Pozner kid who "died" at Sandy Hook and then again in Pakistan.

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=6855258153222399931


doh! I tried to open your link above again to check Delphi's latest spew, and get:




https://www.blogger.com/img/logo_broken.png

Whoops, that's an error.



We apologise for the inconvenience.

Try refreshing the page to see if things are back in order.





So I go searching mami's for the original blog entry, going back through Dec 27, and it appears it's been REMOVED?! Is some mami's mod trying to "protect" Delphi from her base S.Hoax dishonesty blowing up?? :o

[MC Slave]

Sorry I'm late to the party I loved ya'll's comments. I know this will seem somewhat amateurish having read the comments of Amanda and PatColo but this is my recent contribution written at my site
http://blindlight.org/index.php/shills/thrown-together-shit
http://blindlight.org/index.php/trickle-down-sandy-hook-psyops
lots of knowledge here to lap up! :):o

[Jerrylynnb]

MC Slave - the website you referenced is hard to read - small print and way too much to follow (a very busy website).

If you have any insight as to why Delcroix (over at Mami's) deleted all the comments about the boy who "died twice", please just sum it up for us here.

There were many posts over there about that "boy died twice" posting, including Deanna's (and mine), and the act of just deleting them without further comment left me not wanting to make any comments on Mami's at all - what's the point? I am still waiting for someone to 'splain it to me - I had *thought* that Mami's was open to all comments, and not likely to go around deleting comments that embarrassed anyone (like Deanna).

What do you know about it? Do you, or ANYONE here, have any way of getting Delcroix to cough it up why he did that?
I'm willing to listen, but I smell a RAT!

[Glass]

strange shit happens around here sometimes. Every now and then there is this odd posting activity.

[MC Slave]

I have a dynamic website. you need to use mouse scroll button while holding the control key to lower or raise the resolution till everything fits. My impression is mami's Shit is a site in the AFP umbrella though trying to disguise it. In other words they are fake resistance trying to make us think they are one of us.Doesn't mean all there know that.Here's a pic how the web page should look7211
The significance of Sandy Hook at this point is the lesson we got of the revealing of a major network providing fake opposition that is basically trusted by a lot of people and we need to out their asses

So why again does that matter? Because if we let that behavior slide, tolerate it and keep going to them for info and hangouts or even just to argue points that will run up against an electric fence, they are basically controlling the message and you never know when they will try and pull another fast one. We need to make them respond to our message. They don't control us, they are irrelevant as is the MSM but they do have to be defined as to what they are, the biggest obstacle to uniting and moving our cause forward because people believe they are us and fall for the fights and misdirection so easily!! You aren't an op sometimes and sometimes not. If you are an op, you are an op, that's it. When they come on to protect Deanna, they are coming on, the admins, to protect the JWO, IMO.We grow slow but we grow strong and who knows, maybe we gather momentum along the way.
By the way, I joined a few months ago but this is the 1st time I noticed I could post

[Shami-Amourae]

I have a dynamic website. you need to use mouse scroll button while holding the control key to lower or raise the resolution till everything fits. My impression is mami's Shit is a site in the AFP umbrella though trying to disguise it.

I use the default text resolution setting and is doesn't look like in your screenshot. You want it setup so the default for most browsers shows how you want it. Basically I'm saying you have a custom setting on your browser and tailored your website to that custom setting rather than using what is the default. I think that's a fair constructive criticism.

Most people don't know that browser font size trick (I do mind you.)

[Glass]

By the way, I joined a few months ago but this is the 1st time I noticed I could post

Well that might explain it then. I notice a couple times a year we get several new members and first time posters, but then we might not hear from them for 6 or 12 months. must be a window of opportunity.

[Jerrylynnb]

What makes a good web-site FORM? For my tastes, Mami's FORM is tops (not saying I like the content, nor the high-handed way Delcroix deleted comments), but, for a web-crawler like me (yes, I admit it, guilty as charged), that easy-to-use website by Mami is top tier in its form.

Many website have so much to say and overwhelm the visitor with information that it is like shining a floodlight into your eyes - it makes a visitor like me just pass since I don't know where to start, and, that font trick doesn't work on my old PC's (win98, win2000, and winXP). Plus I browse in PORTRAIT MODE most of the time, and a website fashioned to be viewed in LANDSCAPE mode makes it a burden for me to navigate.

This site is also very well set up to my tastes, since I get a deep view (in portrait mode) and can quickly pick and choose which subjects I want to explore.

I intend to revisit your website and try to read some of the articles, but, I'll have to copy the whole articles and paste them into NOTEPAD so I can see the text without straining my eyes.

(I'm a newbie also, and I got here from reading PatColo's comments over at Mami's concerning Deanna's illogical blowout over Sandy Hook - PatColo referenced this website and I was glad to find it).

[MC Slave]

they didn't let me post, I don't know why :)

[MC Slave]

Well, how do you know what default is, again?

[MC Slave]

hey welcome, I have put so much work and all my articles are formed for desk top-1920-1080 P best usage. However, I bet if you visit regularly, you will acclimate and I will have to consider as I have three websites actually possibly trying something different.Reading Patcolo when I was looking for dirt on infiltrators is why i am here. In fact I made a couple of articles from Pat's links on the history of the cointel pro op AFP

[PatColo]

Hi Slave, welcome to GSUS. I replied to your PM, mostly saying I agreed with jerrylynnb above, that your website is hard to deal with coz of the fonts & layout; and I had to close it coz of the auto-play music I couldn't figure out where to turn off, coz it was interrupting another mp3 I was listening to. But good on you for setting something up to help spread the word. It could be that just participating here will be as effective. ?? :)

[Jerrylynnb]

Well, Mami's just posted a solo by Deanna about Sandy Hook:

http://grizzom.blogspot.ca/

The write-up says:

"Deanna talks about the deceptions, the cover-ups and the operatives surrounding Sandy Hook..."

I wrongly hoped that Deanna had come to here senses and was going to make a "limited hangout" retraction, since she had had James Perloff on the other day and I listened and remembered why I used to like Deanna's shows - the interview with James Perloff was well worth the listen.

Well, I was WRONG. WRONG AGAIN!

I downloaded the latest show (the solo about Sandy Hook) and, right away, I realized she is still under whatever spell she swallowed, and, this show is just more of her lecturing to her detractors (like me and PatColo), as if we were misguided and gullible chidren, about how our thinking is so far off base. She first goes on about how "everyting on mainstream news is NOT always a lie", and "everthing on alternative radio is NOT always the truth..." duh, cheeze, Deanna, I didda not know dat. Thanks for enlightening me.

I should have quit listening already, but, the fool for punishment that I am, I listened to how she compared some amish killing and how that Adam Lanza character was reported to have had mental problems at Yale (or somewhere official sounding), then, I just quit it.

If anyone here has the stomach to listen to the whole thing, and cares to wrap it all up for us, I will read your review.

The only aspect of it that I might be interested in is what kind of incredible twisted logic she will employ to explain about the "boy who died twice", but I don't have the stomach or inclination to sit through her condescending shrieking voice long enough to hear if she even bothers to mention about the magic kid.

But, my advice to those who might be deluded into thinking Deanna was coming to her senses, don't bother - she's flat out hung up over the idea that *children* (oh those poor helpless little darlings...) were the victims. Her female instincts cloud her wisdom, and, whatever else kind of a bug got into her brain over this Sandy Hook hoax.

[PatColo]

seeking to enshrine the official zio-sandy-hoax narrative, :rolleyes: 600 pages, ambitious of the CIA ghost writers! :o

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Book Description"Most parents would never consider dispensing deadly addictive “street” drugs to their children but if a trusted physician writes a prescription for an FDA-approved schedule 2 “medication” for their two-year old based on some questionable mental health screening, those unwary parents do not question or object. Despite side effect warnings, regularly revealed during TV ads, parents frequently fail to take those warnings seriously, perhaps presuming that the side effects are happenstance or rarely occur. Over the decades, because organized psychiatry, represented by the American Psychiatric Association (APA), convened numerous consensus panels that designed hundreds of non-biologically-based “disorders” for its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) especially suitable for the pill-for-every-ill pharmaceutical industry that conceivably already had many profitable solutions for the “disorders,” in the pre-production process.

The consequences have been disastrous with no discernable end in sight – some people taking prescription drugs or withdrawing from them have perpetrated school, mall and public shootings. That is in addition to thousands of suicides that the public never hears about, unless the victim is a well-known public figure like Robin Williams. Just the military-related suicide rate is 8,000 per year –untold numbers of these are the result of the psych drug cocktails doled out by psychiatrists working for the VA. The government is big pharma’s largest customer. In addition to the homicides and suicides, irreversible brain damage results from drug remedies to temporary problems that might have been easily resolved through compassionate interaction and talk therapy.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TUXUXCS

[Dachsie]

Hopefully no one buys this nonsense.

This reminds me of "It's the economy, stupid" comment of one our presidents. Telling us what to focus on because we are not supposed to focus on the real problems.

The shark jumper, just like Jon Rappaport, gets us all focusing on "it's the drugs, stupid" instead of who probably did what. That is deliberately pushing people into a weak rationale compared to trying to learn what really did happen, that is, truth.

[slvrbugjim]

seeking to enshrine the official zio-sandy-hoax narrative, :rolleyes: 600 pages, ambitious of the CIA ghost writers! :o

Screening Sandy Hook: Causes and Consequences [Kindle Edition]

Deanna Spingola (http://www.amazon.com/Deanna-Spingola/e/B001K8OCWI/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_1/186-2299256-6897502) (Author)
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"Most parents would never consider dispensing deadly addictive “street” drugs to their children but if a trusted physician writes a prescription for an FDA-approved schedule 2 “medication” for their two-year old based on some questionable mental health screening, those unwary parents do not question or object. Despite side effect warnings, regularly revealed during TV ads, parents frequently fail to take those warnings seriously, perhaps presuming that the side effects are happenstance or rarely occur. Over the decades, because organized psychiatry, represented by the American Psychiatric Association (APA), convened numerous consensus panels that designed hundreds of non-biologically-based “disorders” for its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) especially suitable for the pill-for-every-ill pharmaceutical industry that conceivably already had many profitable solutions for the “disorders,” in the pre-production process.

The consequences have been disastrous with no discernable end in sight – some people taking prescription drugs or withdrawing from them have perpetrated school, mall and public shootings. That is in addition to thousands of suicides that the public never hears about, unless the victim is a well-known public figure like Robin Williams. Just the military-related suicide rate is 8,000 per year –untold numbers of these are the result of the psych drug cocktails doled out by psychiatrists working for the VA. The government is big pharma’s largest customer. In addition to the homicides and suicides, irreversible brain damage results from drug remedies to temporary problems that might have been easily resolved through compassionate interaction and talk therapy.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TUXUXCS

Wholly Sh*t I am almost motivated to buy this garbage so that i can be a verified buyer to review this. Maybe someone can point me to a Torrent to get at this one.....

[PatColo]

I haven't & don't plan to suffer through this, but many (22+) comments @ Mami's, incl from Delphi-Deanna,

Spingola and Friends 4/9/2015

Deanna talkes about numerous issues and events, including Sandy Hook. The title of today's program is Okay, let’s talk about Sandy Hook. Please view Deanna's Sandy Hook Research and Notes particularly the page titled Wolfgang Halbig Asks Deanna to Stop Asking Questions and Critiquing Smallstorm's Video Delphi/Censorship Operation. After all, truth does not fear investigation!!!! I recommend that people listen to my program of February 20, 2014 about Sandy Hook. Show-page
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/04/spingola-and-friends-492015.html

[Jerrylynnb]

I tried to get Deanna to explain why she claimed that all identifications by next-of-kin of recently deceased was "always by photo", and, she finally, after I had to repeat the question, allowed as she had used "a poor choice of words", and that she really meant "usually", instead of "always". She then claimed that she had already proven that elsewhere with references, which she didn't bother to cite in her answer.

I also asked her to hone in on ONE particular alleged victim, that boy whose photo was published as one of the victims killed at Sandy Hook, and then again as one of the children killed a couple of years later in Pakistan. I suggested that this ONE case could prove, or disprove the whole Sandy Hook episode, since we know for sure somebody is faking it in this case. She replied that she had already mentioned the "death certificate" and that she had references to it, but, again, she didn't bother to cite her reference in her reply, as if a mere "death certificate" proves anything about the photo of a little boy we all saw in both cases.

I am no longer interested in anything Deanna has to say. She has dug herself into a deep pit of deception by her own gullibility, and she isn't adult enough to get out as that would require a much larger admission than a "poor choice of words". She has made herself not credible. I suspect she got "had" by someone, concerning Sandy Hook, and it would be just too much to her self esteem to have to admit it. Somewhere along the way she jumped from being a true skeptic and truth-seeker to a "true believer" - and you can't have a rational discussion with a "true believer".

[PatColo]

Re ^, I'd just note again, I long since stopped wishfully wondering if she'd "been had" re S.Hoax, or if she's being willfully deceptive. It's plainly the latter. :(

It's sad, coz I'm on board with her Evil-Big-Pharma msg... but she's done that msg great harm by her (handlers') textbook deception gambits to place herself as a "KOL" (Key Opinion Leader, which she Flips The Script & Projects onto S.Hoax skeptics, ad nauseam...) re zion.gov's official s.Hoax story.

All Delphi&Co's zio-handlers could have hoped to achieve with this ham-handed op, that is bribing-coercing-threatening the now Delphi&Co Shill-A-Thon into playing for their satanic team re S.Hoax, was to "fracture" the TM. And IMHO, they've even FAILed at that... as all that's happened is Delphi&Co have been laughed out of the TM. :D

[Jewboo]

It's sad...zio-handlers...




http://1-ps.googleusercontent.com/xk/8ADRwABzZpZhvbIjNfpXYgZ_zQ/www.mofopolitics.com/i.imgur.com/gNJ0Kqi.jpg.pagespeed.ce.i4e1xmAJ6vVIcqvBS9Ep.jpg




Remember the good ol' days at GIM1 when Ron Paul was gonna save us from the evil jew FED banksters?


:rolleyes:

[PatColo]

TyrannyNewsApril 15, 2015 at 9:44 PM
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/04/spingola-and-friends-492015.html?showComment=1429148665869&m=1#c7921199201859882252
I finally had a chance to listen to this program and was compelled to produce a video response with some clarifications and responses to Deanna's comments and assertions. This is limited just to Deanna's discussion of Wolfgang Halbig, Sofia Smallstorm and myself...

Http://youtube.com/watch?v=_rpc05uXzP8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_rpc05uXzP8

[PatColo]

Delphi's handlers' book got itself a single review now, a glowing 5-star shill review! :D
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TUXUXCS

[PatColo]

TyrannyNewsApril 15, 2015 at 9:44 PM
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/04/spingola-and-friends-492015.html?showComment=1429148665869&m=1#c7921199201859882252
I finally had a chance to listen to this program and was compelled to produce a video response with some clarifications and responses to Deanna's comments and assertions. This is limited just to Deanna's discussion of Wolfgang Halbig, Sofia Smallstorm and myself...

Http://youtube.com/watch?v=_rpc05uXzP8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_rpc05uXzP8

This TNN guy's video response got its own Mami's entry now, which is building its own comment thread (7 atm), predictably including from Delphi herself,

http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/04/responding-to-criticism-of-deanna.html



7 comments:

ColinApril 16, 2015 at 12:55 PM
SPINGY has repeatedly proven herself an obvious shill/agent etc. She had numerous guests on her show from Sofia (removed her show from her archives too!) to Halbig and nodded like a pigeon echoing that Hook was a Hoax... it’s her prerogative to flop, accepting bribes cash, book deals whatever morphed her to the Dark Side is ok by her and the lackeys such as Mark Glenn, Johnson and MCP ilk … I guess SPINGY would allow her kids to remain in a blood soaked room for 16 hours without need to get them to a hospital—mom of year candidate there! Also what’s wrong with Halbig phoning the crisis actors at Hook, if indeed he did? It’s something SPINGY would never do bc she is on the take. I applaud that gorilla journalism!

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ColinApril 16, 2015 at 1:08 PM
Ps I meant DR K not halbig as a guest on the pigeon nodding ... she had others on too ...have SPINGY answer why she removed the Sofia show.

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SWApril 16, 2015 at 2:04 PM
I can't listen to Spingola because her voice is horrific. I don't know how anyone can endure that shrill for more than 30 seconds. Worse than a crying baby.

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DeannaApril 16, 2015 at 3:26 PM
Sofia Smallstorm has never been a guest on my radio program. She declined when I invited her to talk about her views of Sandy Hook.

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1melahatApril 16, 2015 at 6:47 PM
I'm just going to cut and paste my comment from 4/6/15 because you've ignored it. I hprobably hope you see it this time and respond. I and the iranian community are losing respect for you by the minute as you fail to own up and apologize for the slanderous comments you let your caller friend make.

Dear Deanna Spingola, As an IranIan I am mortified by the exchange that took place between yourself and a female Iraqi caller who you seemed to know on your 3/12/2015 show. The caller made the following proclamations which are all demonstrably false: 1) that Iran was the aggressor who started the Iran Iraq war that claimed the lives of a million Iranians and and left many more disabled from chemical weapons given to Saddam by the U.S. : 2) That most of the fighting in Iraq today is between the Iraqi citizens and the Iranians Revolutionary guard : 3) That Iran today is in the pocket of England. The caller ends with a factoid that is meant to prove that Iran is guilty and that revelation is that John Kerry's daughter married an Iranians doctor as if that proves something. You just went along with these slanderous lies and didn't correct the caller on any of the three points or even ask what she meant by that last comment. As a person who seems to know something about world events I am shocked you let such ugly untruths air on your show. I am hoping that was a mistake on your part and not a deliberate action. If you read my comment can you please address this in a future show? Thank you

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lindseynarratesApril 16, 2015 at 7:13 PM
You people are treating and betraying this woman like you did me, and I TOLD HER THAT WAS INEVITABLY GOING TO HAPPEN, YEARS AGO.

You fucking miscreants, deviants, drug-addicts, alcoholics, and the like, do NOTHING, and I mean NO THING, but criticize, insult, slander/libel, and antagonize, anyone and everyone you feel is more intelligent than you, more motivated than you, more successful than you, or, HEAVEN-FORBID!!!, DIS-AGREES WITH EVEN ONE ISSUE, WITH YOU!!!!

You fucking people are the reason why this "movement" will never go anywhere, and I can only thank Mrs. Deanna Spingola for FINALLY realizing the truths of what this "movement" truly is, and has been for a long time.

You cretins and malefactors should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves for your treatment of this woman. Mis-treating, slandering/libeling, and antaganizing, me is one thing, but to do this kind of shit to someone like Mrs. Deanna Spingola...that is as low as you fuckers could possibly sink.

I will never rescind a single word that I have stated here, and have sent this comment to Mrs. Deanna Spingola, herself, so that she knows that at least one person HAS THE COURAGE AND WHERE-WITH-ALL TO DEFEND HER.

Despicable. Not even the jews have treated her as badly as you creatures have, and that is my experience, too, so take that as you fuckers will.

Lindsey

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1melahatApril 16, 2015 at 7:25 PM
Lindsey, I don't know if your ugly comment was meant for me but I am not attacking like you are. I am respectfully asking a question about outright lies which were aired on her show. I am asking her to make it right. Your comment is way out of line. I guess you want to get in to a name calling match and ignore the points I made.


^ too bad 'Colin' got his facts wrong, mixing up Delphi's absurdly incongruous positions on the S.HOAX vs the BMB Hoax. Too bad 'Lindsey' is screeching like a little bitch.

Check the latest comments now b4 delcroix deletes & locks everything AGAIN. :(
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/04/responding-to-criticism-of-deanna.html

[Dachsie]

This is the first time I have listened to DS in many months. Was amazed at the raspy hoarse quality to her already intolerable radio voice, just like Alex Jones' voice only worse.

They have permanently injured their vocal chords. Sacrifice one's voice for truth, not lies.

[Glass]

I think far too much energy is spent on this woman. Shes gone. Move on.

[PatColo]

Oh gawd... I've listened to about half of this; can jump to about 40 mins for beginning of SH part. Delphi's droning on about some question she asked Halbig during her disgraceful "interview" of him last year, and discharacterizing him as having "evaded answering." Plus, Delphi reflects on her anal quality. More after I've suffered through the remainder... :(


Mami's Shit
Friday, April 17, 2015
Spingola and Friends 4/16/2015

Bring in the Clowns, Distractions and Deceptions: Deanna talks about Sandy Hook, offers a few health tips, and shares some background. About those death certificates that people are not able to find: Death Certificates are NOT Public Records; Deanna's Sandy Hook Research and Notes.

http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/04/spingola-and-friends-4162015.html

[Glass]

Death certificates are generally not public record for some number of years after the death. In my state I think it is 30 years, then they can be accessed by anyone. I know this from recent experience. It is to prevent people scamming.

This woman is really just being sticky paper, catching moths "of truth", using up their energy and focus, wasting peoples time.

I'm not convinced that Harbig is not the same. He is the "Superman" leading the fight for justice and I think no one else is doing anything because He's got it covered. I think he is using up the legal avenues.

I don't have any faith in either of them.

[PatColo]

As to Delphi's angelic, melodic voice, recall the ole joke, "they've got a good face for radio!" Well, she's got a good voice for... being a street mime! :D Someone @ mami' said, "Too bad she isn't Victoria Jackson. Then we would all understand."

If u enjoy fingernails on the chalkboard, listen to the handful of shows she did after her 1/15/14 show described in this thread's OP, when she did several consecutive solo shows reciting her spook/handler-prepared scripts attacking Smallstorm's SH video & ad-hom'ing her personally. Delphi had become sick, and hoarse-voiced, no doubt from the stress of having sold out to the satanists so spectacularly wrt S.Hoax. Again: Delphi, HOARSE, & SOLO-- no guest to give listeners any relief! OMG!! :o I know I couldn't take more than a few minutes of it... and that's apart from her ridiculous "discredit Smallstorm!" script! :(




I think far too much energy is spent on this woman. Shes gone. Move on.

Point taken. But also bear in mind, she's, at least I fear, still a "KOL" to use Delphi's own expert Delphi Technique lingo, esp amongst those perhaps earlier along in the wake-up curve; who may be more prone to falling for her/Shill-A-Thon tribe's textbook joojitsu hustle maneuvers.

So I think it's worthwhile to maintain this thread deconstructing the S.Hoax re-bunker shills' game, to give a "hand up" to those less experienced, trapped in a fog of cognitive dissonance over "how could these super bright & aware Truther KOLs (compromised/flipped zion.gov whores ;) ) be so BLIND re S.Hoax?!"

And this thread's reach isn't confined to gsus members who care. I link back to here all over: Mami's, JFriend, fetzer, memoryholeblog; from where readers can freely relink to other venues.

http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/04/responding-to-criticism-of-deanna.html?showComment=1429272508712&m=1#c7892069763381389749

12,296 thread views now, up >100 since yesterday. That's much broader than gsus' small elite membership of drunks, cons & degenerates. :cool:

[aeondaze]

That's much broader than gsus' small elite membership of drunks, cons & degenerates. :cool:

What?

ok, no you're right PC...:p

http://www.survivaloutdoorskills.com/New%20Images/drunk_monkeys-SMALL.jpg

[PatColo]

It seems Delphi doesn't want her shows reposted at venues allowing (most of the time...) free & uncensored discussion re her (s.hoax re-bunking) shows any more. :rolleyes:

Check link for 8+ comments,
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/04/spingola-speaks-20150418.html

Recall, comments at her sites are very much censored. From now on, hers are the only sites where her shows & dedicated comment threads will be posted. Telling...


Spingola Speaks 2015.04.18

Victor Fletcher of the Toronto Street News

NB: This is the last Spingola weekend show that I post as per her request. This also applies to all the weekday shows that WHOOLI has been posting.

Pretty good show above btw; another zio-persecuted Canuck. A music snafu around the middle drives Delphi nuts. :D

[PatColo]

Uh bowee... :rolleyes:

plus, a retread of Delphi's 12/14/14 Sandy Hoax Re-Bunker Shill-A-Thon.

don't miss the mami's 16 (and growing) comments (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=1011193907246790099); I've posted there as 'zeetip'.



Spingola and Friends 4/20/2015 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/04/spingola-and-friends-4202015.html)

http://antinwo.com/files/Deanna%20Spingola%202.jpg (http://antinwo.com/files/Deanna%20Spingola%202.jpg)
Note from Deanna: I have reconsidered my stance about the posting of my programs at Mami's site. I have never run from a fight and recognize that my previous request to Mami's might appear as a surrender on my part. I believe in free speech including the speech of those who disagree with me. I recognize that Mami's posts shows that cover various subjects that may not appeal to everyone. It is like a cafeteria where one may select according to their interests or beliefs.

C. W. Wade of Sandy Hook Facts (http://sandyhookfacts.com/) and journalist, Keith Johnson joined Deanna on December 14, 2014. Today's program is a replay of that very informative RBN program. Read Deanna’s critique of Sofia Smallstorm’s video (http://www.spingola.com/unraveling1.html) and notes on Wolfgang Halbig (http://www.spingola.com/halbignotes.html). People can easily ascertain that the Sandy Hook Hoax ~ Walking In Circles Around Sandy Hook Firehouse (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZRa5_DHgl4) is a looped video. View the repetitive motion of the silver vehicle in the upper left-hand corner of the video from 1:13-1:32, 2:40-2:50, 4:13-4:23, 4:52-5:02, 5:07-5:18, and 5:27-6:14 minutes. This program was originally aired at RBN and then edited to exclude the commercial breaks resulting in a program that lasted 2 hours and 5 minutes. To listen to the last five minutes which has some very good information about censorship click this link (MP3 (https://copy.com/FXZBrY4BNdwsmrcW)). Sandy Hook Analysis (http://sandyhookanalysis.blogspot.com/), Newtown Post-Examiner (http://newtownpostexaminer.com/), Sandy Hook Lighthouse (http://sandyhooklighthouse.wordpress.com/) People have asked Deanna if she would have allowed her daughter to lay in a pool of blood for sixteen hours. She answered that question in this show.

Show-page (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/deanna2/2015/04/20/spingola-and-friends)

Download (http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/7/528/show_7528519_2015_04_17_17_06_56.mp3)





Posted by WHOOLI (http://www.blogger.com/profile/12745432266860223770) at 3:59 PM 16 comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=1011193907246790099)

[Glass]

one may select according to their interests or beliefs

Not truth then.

[Jerrylynnb]

Another 10 comment thread about Deanna - will it ever end. This time ZAPOPER (a Mami's moderator) is praising Deanna for her "research" and chiding all the "hoaxers" as being twerps who sit in front of a PC but won't go do any real "research". He offers thanks to Deanna for her valiant and valuable "work".

I can't bring myself to listen to her anymore - has anyone (PatColo?) bothered to listen to that show? I am guessing that her "research" is reading government reports, not in going there and actually interviewing and recording any impartial witnesses. Of course, she dismisses the "boy who died twice" as a mere ploy by the press to goad hoaxers so as to divert attention away from the dangers of prescribing drugs to children.

If anyone here has plodded through it all, what does her "research" consist of, besides "government" reports and documents? If she has any "research" about the "boy who died twice", now that would be something I'd want to look at.

[PatColo]

Jerrylynnb: yeah I heard her last 2 SHoax shows... the replay of the 12/14/14 show, I heard when it was fresh, but have no desire to hear that tag-team SHoax rebunking show again!

Her "research" definitely relies most heavily on the zion.gov "report", but other anomalies, like the SH property records, and the internet traffic to SHES ceasing completely in 2008, she just cites a hodge podge of implausible "explanations." :(

[PatColo]

here's one I won't be listening to; as KJohnstein is prolly the most odious of the S.Hoax rebunkers... just documenting here for posterity.

Spingola and Friends 4/30/2015 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/04/spingola-and-friends-4302015.html)

Keith Johnson of the Newtown Post-Examiner (http://www.newtownpostexaminer.com/)talks about the Sandy Hook hoaxers in general and about his recently-released videos, Wolfgang Halbig's FOIA "Security System" Blunder! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2JfE7RrMlM&amp;list=TL21UoiVHSwmE&amp;index=1) and Sandy Hook: Wolfgang Halbig's Far Away Eyes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSmxItXnCdk&amp;list=TL21UoiVHSwmE&amp;index=2), both part of his WOLFgang Watch series. One might even refer to Wolfgang Halbig as the High Priest of the Hoaxer movement. He is certainly taking the focus off of the real victims.

Show-page (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/deanna2/2015/04/30/spingola-and-friends)www.spingola.com (http://www.spingola.com/index.htm)Adolf Hitler Mega-post (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/01/adolf-hitler-greatest-story-never-told.html)The Holocaust Mega-post (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/12/hard-facts-of-holocaust.html)The New Babylon - PDF (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-new-babylon-those-who-reign-supreme.html)Who Controls America? (http://thezog.info/)Download (http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/7/553/show_7553173.mp3) Posted by WHOOLI (http://www.blogger.com/profile/12745432266860223770)at 8:46 PM No comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=2578456120311767642)

[Jerrylynnb]

I have gotten a gristle stuck in my craw over "the boy who died twice", and I did a quick google about it, but came up very disappointed. There were some hits back in January, and some real hard hitting, outspoken, criticism that this anomaly seems to have been swept under the rug. But it seems little follow up, and, like the posters I found, I am irate about that also.

Some suggested that the photo was of a boy named Kevin, taken six years earlier, and only used like a model from a pool of photogenic children whenever it would be needed by the press (in other words, the photo is NOT of one "Noah Pozner" at all, but a child model from six years earlier). The second showing of that photo, in Pakistan (as one of the victims in that "shooting"), was such a blunder that it SHOULD be cause for concern for all Sandy Hook skeptics, but it seems it hasn't gotten much traction. The BBC, and the international branch of the New York Times, which reproduced the photo also, only state that it appears to have been used "elsewhere", with no further explanation.

DUH!

I would have expected the REAL parents of whoever that child is in the photo, to have filed a massive lawsuit, at least against the BBC and the newspaper, for slander. Something is really amiss in the land when something so blatant as this just slides right on by and little is said, or done, about it. Deanna is satisfied with her theory that the BBC and that newspaper did it on purpose to fan the flames of Sandy Hook hoaxers so as to draw attention away from the dangers involved with prescribing strong medicines to children (the alleged shooter, Adam Lanza, allegedly took strong prescriptions and went berserk because of it). So Deanna sees no reason to investigate this any further, since this unlikely theory she embraces compliments her pet theory about the government's Sandy Hook reports being spot-on, believable, and the end-all, be-all, god's truth.

If anyone has any updated information about the boy in that photo, and any well-researched (not mere speculation) evidence as to who he really is (or was), and the details, please advise - this could break the Sandy Hook hoax wide open if someone could positively identify the boy in that photo as being someone other than Noah Pozner, and having been a child model or in some such business. This shouldn't be that hard to confirm, or deny, and it leaves me miffed that this clear case, on which Sandy Hook pivots, gets little or no attention.

[Dachsie]

"If anyone has any updated information about the boy in that photo, and any well-researched (not mere speculation) evidence as to who he really is (or was), and the details, please advise - this could break the Sandy Hook hoax wide open if someone could positively identify the boy in that photo as being someone other than Noah Pozner, and having been a child model or in some such business. This shouldn't be that hard to confirm, or deny, and it leaves me miffed that this clear case, on which Sandy Hook pivots, gets little or no attention. "

Jerrylynnb, I appreciate and agree with most of your great comment.

I have studied Sandy Hook but only moderately compared to the amount of study I gave to 9-11 and one aspect of Boston Marathon Bombing.

MemoryHoleBlog of Professor James Tracy has a search facility so I would search for good up-to-date information about by doing a search there. Also the folks who did the famous video "We Need to Talk About Sandy Hook" have a website where you might also find more good info about "Noah Pozner."

One important fact about Noah is that he appears as an older live version of Noah when he was singing at that national sports event (Super Bowl?) where the Sandy Hook School singing group traveled to the event. There are several videos on YT that show photos of these children who sang at the sports event and several of these children appear to be older versions of several of the children that were said to have been killed at the Sandy Hook event.

"this could break the Sandy Hook hoax wide open if someone could positively identify the boy"

The problem is that we can't "positively identify" a whole host of players in almost all of these false events that happened on U.S. soil in the last 25 years, not only the people said to have been killed but the parents and relatives said to be related to the people killed.

Another thing is that there are many problems with videographic and photographic records of these events, the ones we the people are allowed to see as well as the records we thing ought to be available somewhere but are closed off to us.

It is even possible that some of the photos we see are composits with parts of someone's face with other parts from someone else's face. Just sayin' Not sure of anything.

"This shouldn't be that hard to confirm, or deny, and it leaves me miffed that this clear case, on which Sandy Hook pivots, gets little or no attention. "

It IS that hard to confirm. As stated earlier we do not have any way of prositively confirming if someone is a real person and whether that real person is living or dead. We have things like the Social Security Deceased Index but that is a private data base and it is only as good as the data it gets from the government.

This matter is not something I would call the " clear case, on which Sandy Hook pivots". The case of Noah Pozner is of that CATEGORY of issues that is indeed crucial to breaking open the Sandy Hook hoax.

Every time I or others try to search around of the web and find out anything about where a parent is now or anything about one of the "victims" everything just ends up in a meaningless rabbit trail. NOTHING pans out. Nothing makes sense in all the info we discover.

[Jerrylynnb]

Thanks, Daschie, I hadn't considered the idea of that photo being a photoshopped composite - not a real boy at all. I am not an expert at photoshop, but I have dabbled enough to know that you can actually create a edited version of one or more photos and there are tools to smooth out even single pixel sized telltale signs of editing, so that it would be undetectable as being an edited composite - provided you "flatten" all the "layers" before publishing your final jpg (which the photoeditors of Obama's fake birth certificate 'forgot' to do - remember that?). This option just blows away any hope of getting to the bottom of it, as far as that photo is concerned, and I don't know how anyone (besides the photoeditor and his employer) would ever know.

The reason I focused in on that one photo ("Noah Pozner", allegedly) is because that same photo was used two years later in an alleged Pakistani "shooting". So, unlike the other photos, we have here a case where we know for a fact that somebody, somewhere, in at least one of those two cases (Sandy Hook vs. Pakitan) hoaxed it (or committed a sloppy bumbling "mistake").

Knowing for sure that one or the other, OR BOTH, used a phony photo, and then not seeing the error exposed for all to see, makes me doubt both episodes. I would expect that the one which is true (if either one is), would insist on having the other one prosecuted in a very loudly publicized manner.

That ain't happening, so I got doubts about both episodes.

That is what I was thinking when I described that photo as being "pivotal" - it is the only one that is factually known to have been a phony at least once, so one can reasonably suspect this photo was up for grabs whenever the press needed a photo of a six year old boy for publication for whatever reason.

[PatColo]

here's one I won't be listening to; as KJohnstein is prolly the most odious of the S.Hoax rebunkers... just documenting here for posterity.

Spingola and Friends 4/30/2015 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/04/spingola-and-friends-4302015.html)

after sitting at Mamis for about 24 hours with no comments, this has begun to percolate, with Delphi participating, debasing her cred further, and getting slammed. check it out: 12 comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=2578456120311767642)

[PatColo]

yet another Shill-A-Thon show featuring Delphi-Deanna and K.Johnstein. I haven't and won't listen, as again, I can't stand either screech monkey any more. But the Mamii's comments, 15 atm, are lively. Delphi and her new defender "WV Foundation" (rodney martin) are in there employing their joowey "Flip The Script & Project" gambit, accusing SH "hoaxers" of falling in line with the consensus, & getting all their impressions from jootube vids etc, meanwhile hoping no one notices that their own SH shill cabal is promoting... drumroll.... the official joo narrative of S.Hoax, citing joo "official reports" and joozpaper articles... the same "consensus" orchestrated by the joozmedia and believed by 80/90/whatever % of 'murkans... lol :D




Spingola and Friends 5/11/2015 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/05/spingola-and-friends-5112015.html)
Keith Johnson (http://newtownpostexaminer.com/)returns to talk about the many popular Sandy Hook myths that are widely disseminated within the "alternative" media. View Keith's YouTube videos (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAZIxDYx_A3rTepHf2T78pw). In this program he also discusses the recent AFP article (http://americanfreepress.net/?p=24266). Keith’s 20-minute interview with Peter Teahen (http://peterteahen.com/), referred to during the program, may be found here (http://www.spingola.com/Teahen%20Interview.mp3).

Download (http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/7/597/show_7597551_2015_05_07_22_50_02.mp3)

Posted by WHOOLI (http://www.blogger.com/profile/12745432266860223770) at 6:27 AM 15 comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=1458119081905052116)

[Jerrylynnb]

A couple of hours ago (11:05pm) I made a short comment about the boy who died twice, which was followed by three more comments within minutes (two by Colin, and another one by someone else), both of which raised uncomfortable questions for Deanna. Now I go back and all those three later comments are GONE - this time by WHOOLI.

WHAT?

Well, this isn't the first time MAMI just erases comments, but, for the life of me, I can't figure it - why would so many moderators over there be running interference for Deanna? It makes a curious fellow wonder.

Anyway, anytime you see an entry and with NO comments, or only a few, it just might mean that they are unflattering to some favored party and the moderators are just erasing them without notice.

Damn! Mami's used to be my favorite website.

What happened? If this keeps up, I'll just quit even bothering.

Anyway, it is THEIR website and they can do as they please, so, I'll not complain, except it is such a waste to see a formerly top-notch website go to the dogs trying to protect the unprotectable and unworthy.

[Jerrylynnb]

Well, this thread

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=1458119081905052116

finally settled out with 89 posts, mostly promoting the idea that Deanna's "book" is the key to "proof" about Sandy Hook.

There is no telling how many embarrassing posts got deleted - probably quiet a few.

You will get nowhere expecting any kind of a detailed answer about anything, but you will get a suggestion that you go elsewhere and see the link to her book, where she claims she has already "addressed" that issue. Even a question that would have a "yes" or "no" answer will have to be found "in her book".

I am concluding that Deanna has absolutely zero "evidence" beyond what she read in the "government reports", and, she wants a gold star for having plowed through those and swallowed them whole, as she revealed on her brief appearance on the Pete Santilli podcasts a while back. She is quick to claim that she didn't accept all aspects of the reports, but, she will not give a concise point by point of which aspects of it she rejects, and, on the Santilli show, she claimed that you could take the reports as completely accurate (even though Pete Santilli suggested - he was trying to be nice - that she not put so much stock in whatever the government says).

I give up. This may just be a case of her, and others, having spent so much time digesting the government reports, and, with so much time invested doing so, they just can't consider the notion that these reports are worthless - I mean, what a waste, so, all she can do is keep on refering to her book, and making it seem that if you don't read her book, then that right there disqualifies you from asking any questions or raising any issues.

I am ready to just write her off - it doesn't matter anymore who she has on her podcasts, or what the subject matter is, she has gone over the edge here and I wouldn't have the nerve to use anything I got from one of her podcasts as any kind of revelation of something I would want to bring to anyone's attention on any matter at all.

I am still perplexed over that "pozner" kid (so-called) - it seems the alleged parents made a lot of youtubes up until the Pakistani episode, and then, dead silence. I can't find anything from them after that - and there was a mention on one youtube that the same photo appeared, minus the background, in a website from China BEFORE Sandy Hook, suggesting that the photo was made available as a child model, or whatever. There is something very fishy about that photo and I'm waiting for someone to get to the bottom of it because it is likely to be a doozy.

And so, for me, this ends the chapter on Deanna Spingola as a podcaster and investigator. If anyone still thinks she has anything to say that is worth listening to, be my guest but I have finally lost interest and lost hope in her coming to her senses.

I am having my doubts about Mami's also, since a couple of the moderators over there, including Whooli, seem to be fans of Deanna, in spite of this obstinate Sandy Hook kick she got onto - there is not so much they offer any more that I care to download - a few, but very few.

Speak up, gold and silver gurus, if there is another website, or sites, that have good podcasts by serious and intelligent hosts that make for good listening.

[PatColo]

^ Again, I shrug off talk of Delphi-Deanna "coming to her senses." She's compromised, period! Citing Jon Perkins model: whether Delphi took the pile of money in the satanists' one hand; and/or she's dodging the bullet in their other hand; and/or she's dodging the reputation-wrecking disclosure about some past skeletons (blackmail) in the satanists' third hand... she's plainly compromised. (As to blackmail, I'm recalling "Dr. Laura Schlesinger", the wildly popular mid-90s radio shrink, author, "moralist", and joodeo-convert; who had a series of photos, gynecological beaver shots with face and all which she'd taken with her boyfriend in her 20s, disclosed at the height of her popularity...).

Again-again, it boils down to Delphi's continuous, methodical employment of textbook disinfo gambits, in making her pro jooz.media.gov sandy hoax narrative pitch, while seeking to "refute her opponents", as detailed through this thread.

To paraphrase the quote of some shmoe whose identity I don't recall: "You'll never 'convince' a person of a given truth, when that person's livelihood depends upon their remaining 'unconvinced'."



I am still perplexed over that "pozner" kid (so-called) - it seems the alleged parents made a lot of youtubes up until the Pakistani episode, and then, dead silence. I can't find anything from them after that - and there was a mention on one youtube that the same photo appeared, minus the background, in a website from China BEFORE Sandy Hook, suggesting that the photo was made available as a child model, or whatever. There is something very fishy about that photo and I'm waiting for someone to get to the bottom of it because it is likely to be a doozy.


I pulled this "Lenny Pozner" pic from this Fetzer article:
Lenny Pozner Strikes Out with obviously fraudulent Copyright Claim (http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2015/05/lenny-pozner-strikes-out-with-obvioulsy.html)


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Du5nM9busZE/VUamcyFoYKI/AAAAAAAADC0/K_mNhsWIca8/s1600/Are%2BSandy%2BHook%2Bcritics%2Bdelusional%3F.jpg


^ I'd never seen a pic of this guy who presents himself as "Lenny Pozner" before. So we're to believe that this late-50s looking sob is the father of the twice killed 6yo "Noah Pozner" :|~ :D :|~ :D LOL!

[Dachsie]

That is the first photo I have seen of Lenny. Still we have no solid identification of the personage called Lenny Pozner, neither have we of his child and his ex-wife.

Seems to me the major players set before us in Sandy Hook, 9-11, Boston, Ben Laden two-time death, etc... are part real people, part totally fictitious entities, and some real pictures of real people and some photoshopped fake photos of two or more unknown people, living or dead.

I keep thinking that the bottom-line problem we have in investigating and searching for truth on any of these recent false events or "false flags" is that we do know know who is real and who is created fiction and who is living and who is dead. We do not have DNA matching and even if we did, we would have to rely on a thoroughly evil dishonest government to supply the correct and complete DNA data. And as for "independent, third party analyses" of any data, well just forgiddaboudit.

Will the real dead victims please stand up?

[PatColo]

this 1st (June 3rd) Ognir podcast with guest "Tiffany" concerning Delphi-Deanna and her SHoax co-shills is VG. Some new dirt on the true name & loser-background of Anonymous-Wade ("CW Wade"), who's been such a favorite guest of Delphi's in their S.Hoax Shill-A-Thon shows. Most of Ognir & Tiffany's ire is directed at A-W, K.Johnstein, and "Lenny Pozner"; with Tiffany near the end describing LP as "a ghost" in that she's been unable to find anything about his pre-S.Hoax background. She openly speculates that he's a CIA spook.

I haven't listened to the next one (June 10) yet; description suggests it's all C.Hebdo hoax.

mami's just posted, so stay tuned to the comments (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=9054265069480658466), none at this writing but it should get lively.





Sunday, June 21, 2015


TIU Radio 2015.06.03-10 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/06/tiu-radio-20150603-10_76.html)




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First show June 3rd: A chat between Ognir and Tiffanyabout SH (Spingola (http://grizzom.blogspot.ca/2015/05/spingola-and-friends-5112015.html), Keith Johnson, DMCA ect)

Second show June 10th: Ognir With Guest Joeblow (http://umu.nu/)

Topics: Sandy Hook and Charlie Hebdo

Update: I fixed Delcroix's audio of the 29th of May show (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/06/tiu-radio-29th-may-2015.html)

Ognir's The Information Underground (http://theinfounderground.com/smf/index.php)
TIU Archive (http://theinfounderground.com/archives/)

June 3rd 64k Download (http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/2n10g4lbw3/TIU_Radio_2015.06.03.mp3)

June 10th 64k Download
(http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/1pp2i7rcct/TIU_Radio_2015.06.10.mp3)

Posted by zapoper (http://www.blogger.com/profile/15726967138606494466) at 9:47 PM No comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=9054265069480658466)




_________________

Also, I recall listening at the time but I neglected to post it here; but notice zapoper's note above about having 'fixed' the audio of Ognir's 29th of May show (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/06/tiu-radio-29th-may-2015.html) - IIRC, Ognir rags on KJohnstein, Anonymous-Wade, and I think also Pozner (?) for being 'snitches', contacting police & mil to complain; contacting SH researchers' present and past employers to smear the researchers (KJ basically admits to these actions) & having S.Hoax researchers' YT vids removed & channels shut down based on fraudulent copyright claims.

This is 2 hours, but only 2nd hour is devoted to Ognir's Delphi/KJ/A-W criticism, advance to 1 hr for the start of that. Also check out the link for the 10 mami's reader comments:





Thursday, June 4, 2015

TiU Radio 29th May 2015



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SXh5WZcieOQ/UtMBjLx20rI/AAAAAAAAA_4/3O8ErdeC4_4/s200/zionism_is_not_healthy.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SXh5WZcieOQ/UtMBjLx20rI/AAAAAAAAA_4/3O8ErdeC4_4/s1600/zionism_is_not_healthy.jpg)

Sandy Hook, Snitches & shills

Ognir's thoughts and notes on Sandy Hook and a few views from France .

Parts 1 and 2
Transcoded down to 64k from the original source with gain adjusted. However, I did not edit out all the "Uhhhhhhhhh s" LOL (missing audio included)...Zap

Download (http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/g5cd3yxt7b/TIU_Radio_2015.05.29.mp3)

Ognir's The Information Underground (http://theinfounderground.com/smf/index.php)

A View from the Bog (http://outsideradio.blogspot.ie/)


Posted by delcroix (http://www.blogger.com/profile/04838891459471113991) at 6:23 PM



10 comments: http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/06/tiu-radio-29th-may-2015.html

[PatColo]

also cross posting here for posterity; Fetcho & Kaminski reiterate what they discussed in a prior visit around a year ago; namely sharing their shock & dismay at Delphi, Glenn, Piper (and the others they didn't mention) who were ostensibly allies in the TM, but then all came out swinging in support of the official SHoax narrative. This dialog begins at around the 1 hr mark, shortly after JKaminski comes on at 52:00. Not really any new insight that I heard. Later in the show they talk in general terms about the infiltrators in the TM.


Kaminski comes on at top of 2nd hour, AKA 52 minute mark, through the end of the show; 2h 36 mins total. VG discussion.


http://i61.tinypic.com/160yl8w.gif (http://i61.tinypic.com/160yl8w.gif)
Dennis Fetcho, aka "The Fetch", is an American ex-patriot living in Amman, Jordan. He is the author of the Illuminatus Observor (http://illuminatusobservor.blogspot.com/), a blog regarded by many as simply the finest Hermetic Qaballa blog in all of blogdom. The Fetch also has a second site called"Inside The Eye Live.com (http://insidetheeyelive.com/)"
Intelligent media for the politically aware.

Guest: John Kaminski (http://therebel.is/kaminski), Internet Essayist

32k CF Download (http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/2hxbtq71d6/Fetcho.2015.06.20.mp3)

Websites: illuminatusobservor.blogspot (http://illuminatusobservor.blogspot.com/) inside the eye live (http://insidetheeyelive.com/)
Email: thefetch@yahoo.com
Revolution Radio @ Freedom Slips.com (http://www.freedomslips.com/)
ITEL @ Archive.org (https://archive.org/search.php?query=uploader%3A%22thefetch%40insideth eeyelive.com%22&sort=-publicdate)

Posted by zapoper (http://www.blogger.com/profile/15726967138606494466) at 1:38 PM 1 comment: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=4076535583955057656)

[Dachsie]

I responded to this post about Kaminski and others yesterday.

My comment is not posted here anywhere as I can see. Where is the other thread where you posted this or cross posted this.

This is the first time one of my comments has not posted.

I know I got an email about that had the word infiltrators or some word like that but now I cannot even find the emial notifying me of that posting.

Very odd.

I recently exchanged some emails with Dave Gahary of AFP and explained to him why I do not visist AFP site anymore or imbibe any of their material and told him it was because so many of AFP associated people took such a strong stance for the official story of Sandy Hook.

He was objective and I got the feeling that the people supporting AFP has dropped off considerably. They seemed to do a 180 and are now supposedly telling some truth about Sandy Hook. But it is kind of weird the way they did such a stark change and I don't buy it.

There is a YouTube video where Eustace Mullins says Kaminski is a shill and that K. sicked the Mossad on him at this home.

Still think it odd that my comment did not post yesterday. It seemed to post at first, whatever thread it was.

[Jerrylynnb]

Daschie,

Repost it! Right here. I want to read what you have to say. OK? If someone deletes your post then I got a strong adverse attitude about that!

[Dachsie]

The post that PatColo did that I commented on but comment was not posted had something to do with Anthony Lawson and also about this recent thing with John Kaminski.

I posted a link to an article by Dr. James Fetzer from a long time ago wherein he explains how Lawson did not communicate or write about Dr. Fetzer's ideas objectively. Lawson did some great videos and I guess I should not talk negatively about the dead but Lawson, like so many other ostensibly good sounding 9-11 "truthers" spoke about the Israel/Zionist/ connections to 9-11, always supported, vigorously, the existence of real large airline planes crashing into the WTC Twin Towers. That is something that just breaks the laws of physics and the laws of aerodynamics and just did not happen.

Anyway, here is a May 2015 article Gahary linked for me showing how AFP is now apparently supporting Sandy Hook truth.

http://americanfreepress.net/?p=24266

Sandy Hook: Still Looking for Answers
May 03, 2015 AFP 26 Comments
19_20_SANDY_HOOK

By Victor Thorn —

When serious investigative journalists co
- See more at: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=24266#sthash.p3uj5R1K.dpuf "

One commenter said about this article...

Chris Hassell says:
May 4, 2015 at 17:48

This article does, however, raise important questions about AFP’s “evolving” coverage of Sandy Hook. As I recall, it started out neutral on the question of conspiracy but quickly moved to an almost rabid defense of the official narrative or at least one Allan would approve of. Grotesque attacks were made by Michael Collins Piper and others against respected researchers attempting to maintain a dialogue on the valid questions surrounding this incident. And now AFP seems to have swung almost the other direction.

I would like to demand, as a subscriber, that AFP clarify its position on this subject as it has changed over time and to explain why such changes occurred.
- See more at: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=24266#sthash.p3uj5R1K.dpuf

[PatColo]

AFP's S.Hoax coverage has been mixed. On the pro-hoax side they had JFriend, and I guess VThorn; and on the pro-SH-joo-narrative side was Delphi & MCP... I may have missed some characters there. Gahary has always labored to be 'neutral' and 'undecided', but I've detected clues where he's seemingly been sympathetic to the pro-hoax side.

anyway, here's another case of "haven't listened, and don't plan to"; but you can catch the buzz via the 24 mami's comments.


Spingola Speaks 2015.06.27 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/06/spingola-speaks-20150627.html)

Keith Johnson (http://newtownpostexaminer.com/) returns to talk about the many popular Sandy Hook myths widely disseminated within the "alternative" media

Let the festivities begin!


32k CF Download (https://archive.org/download/Spingola.Speaks.2015.06.27/Spingola.Speaks.2015.06.27.mp3)


Posted by zapoper (http://www.blogger.com/profile/15726967138606494466) at 1:11 AM 24 comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=7938854036041861394) http://img1.blogblog.com/img/icon18_email.gif (http://www.blogger.com/email-post.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=7938854036041861394)


one commenter posts this, adding:



At minute 45: Wolfgang says he is working with Russia Today and says they may do a big story. If this happens this is going to be really big. Wouldn't that kick the lid off the White House trash can.

Don't hold your breath.




1hr 6m:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_0w_Zb_w6c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_0w_Zb_w6c

Wolfgang Halbig & Aaron Wilson on June 22, 2015
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1,564
Published on Jun 23, 2015
Sandy Hook (no)Facts routed and the vast false flag industrial complex revealed.

[slvrbugjim]

Thought this reply was very good so I now am posting it here...



https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif The_Mad_Subtitler (http://www.blogger.com/profile/17729086441455011632) said...I swore to myself I wouldnt comment in here... but I cant take it any longer.

Flowers and Peaches ... you say there is no proof that Keith is disinfo. Your statement of lack of proof is no proof that he isn't. I have no idea what this Keith clown has for motivation. I can only surmise. But what exists is a growing mountain of detailed information that Sandy Hook is screwy and there is plenty of room for motive behind the evidence. The official story has to be bogus. The school was not operational. It was out of code. It was toxic waste dump. It is missing evidence of being a live school. Ambulance drivers were stopped at the Firehouse...No one called the hello rescue with a flight surgeon who was ~15 minutes away… Life time gag orders by school demolition workers...modification of laws prior the incident ... the town was in financial stress… history of drills … lies about the quality of the school which looked like a garbage pile… and that freaky ass sign "everyone must check in!" ...everyone walking around with color-coded DHS lanyards on ...stuff showing up a day early... who the heck ordered the porta potties? and on and on and on ... Spingola continues because people just get tired of saying the same things to people with their hands over their eyes. Zap posts her crap because not everything she preaches is an absolute out and out lie and he probably doesn’t want to listen to all the whining and moaning. Basically Spingola serves fresh ice cream with her shit. The only problem is that if you mix ice cream and shit you get shit flavored ice cream.

For you to trust the official story because you cannot perceive how a whole town could be in on it? How exactly does that compare with the fact that our entire congress is in on screwing the American people over... bought off ... and in the pockets of those with the MONEY. Your inability to perceive the bigger picture is due to a lack of general knowldege and also is probably because you watched the boob tube and saw someone shed a tear over non-existent children and now you are emotionally invested. You are taking an EMOTIONAL STANCE which horribly devoid of logic. I will say it now and I will say it proudly: I don’t give a rat’s ass about the parents of these supposed dead children. They are lying sacks of crap and should burn in hell. And you are foolish to believe them. Everyone of those caskets were closed save one with a rag on the face. No one even knows how they transported them. They certainly didnt send them to the hospital first to be declared dead which is standard protocol. The hospitals in the area were drumming their fingers waiting. We still have no answer as to why they never called the helicopters. The only answer we got was they didnt have room to land. I guess you guys have never seen these people in action. Over 20 children they would have landed if the fireman had had to chop trees down. The helio team stated that they didnt know why they didnt call.

Now we have video evidence that Homeland Security was there and put in that freaky sign! Deny that Spingola you whiny sack of pus.



June 28, 2015 at 6:01 PM

[PatColo]

Another 'for posterity' post; I haven't and don't expect to listen to her victoria jackson + toad voice, solo, for hours, as she recites annoying and easily deconstructed 'Flip the Script & Project' shite. But I assume these podcasts will have lots of S.Hoax re-bunking, given that MCP's false flags book, like the late MCP, take the position that S.Hoax happened as dajooz.zion.gov have purported... lol :D



Spingola and Friends 7/9/2015 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/07/spingola-and-friends-792015.html)


Deanna talks about Michael Collins Piper's False Flags: Template for Terror (http://www.amazon.com/False-Flags-Michael-Collins-Piper/dp/1937787907/) and The Judas Goats: The Enemy Within (http://www.amazon.com/Judas-Goats-Enemy-Within/dp/098180862X/).

Download
(http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/7/745/show_7745159.mp3)

Posted by WHOOLI (https://www.blogger.com/profile/12745432266860223770) at 6:08 AM No comments: (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=6768932660513861563)

Spingola and Friends 7/13/2015 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/07/spingola-and-friends-7132015.html)





Deanna talks again(Part 2) about Michael Collins Piper's False Flags: Template for Terror (http://www.amazon.com/False-Flags-Michael-Collins-Piper/dp/1937787907/) and The Judas Goats: The Enemy Within (http://www.amazon.com/Judas-Goats-Enemy-Within/dp/098180862X/).

Download
(http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/7/761/show_7761361.mp3)

Posted by WHOOLI (http://www.blogger.com/profile/12745432266860223770) at 9:29 PM No comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=1449533305224558000)

[Jerrylynnb]

One his last weekly poddcast, Wolf Wall Street ( WWS, "The Fourth Position", http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=85857&cmd=tc ) mentioned that, Deanna has "relaxed" her formerly FIRM position that SH happened "as advertised". He says that she now claims that, "EVEN IF" it was not entirely as reported, she insists that the main thrust of the story is still about the horrors of vaccinations.

Has anyone else got wind of this alleged "even if" admission by Deanna?

[PatColo]

Jerrylynnb, I listened to Delphi-Deanna's appearance on the Pete Santilli show. For those who missed it, it's the first 23 mins of this MP3 (http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/pete_santilli/hr3033114.mp3); but then the SHoax topic spills into the first several minutes of the next guest's appearance beginning at the bottom of the hour. I would call it must-listening, if you're following along with this saga. Santilli's was the first Deanna interview I've heard who's challenged her on her complete blind faith & reliance on djooz.gov's "official reports" & "news" stories, in supporting her proclaimed S.Hoax beliefs. Deanna gave some quite absurd "responses", lol. Following, I will be transcribing key bits which indicate where Delphi's head is at.





2:07:30 PS: Still, you can't say with absolute certainty that you know what happened with Sandy Hook, right?

2:07:37 DS: Well, yes, you CAN say exactly what happened, because, they have come out with all the reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, and I have dug through them, other people have dug through them, [...]. The hoaxers would have you believe that THESE PEOPLE ARE ALL LIARS. OR ACTORS, YES!! IS THAT RIDICULOUS (http://crisisactors.org/) OR WHAT?!? EVEN A CHILD COULD SEE IT!! (http://www.amazon.com/Counter-Group-Manipulation-Tactics-Consensus-Building/dp/145051913X)

(http://www.amazon.com/Counter-Group-Manipulation-Tactics-Consensus-Building/dp/145051913X)


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51V1v2IqxzL.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/Counter-Group-Manipulation-Tactics-Consensus-Building/dp/145051913X)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhTqMoccVmY






2:08:55 PS: So, you've said you read the reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, and, I'm not even going by the conspiracy theories. How do we know that we're to trust those reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018? Can we?

2:09:10 DS: I think that, yes, I think you can.

2:11:00 DS: There was a sign, says "EVERYONE MUST CHECK IN HERE". Well that sign in Sofia's video, she implies that that was there on the morning of December 14th. It was not. It was not there on Friday; it was not there on Saturday; it WAS there on TUESDAY, when Megan Kelly interviewed Rosen, Gene Rosen. And, everything was back to normal, relatively back to normal. Schools had resumed, and you could see a bus drive by.






http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Everyone-must-check-in-320x251.jpg






2:13:15 DS: There are mistakes in the reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, because human beings created the reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018.

2:13:20 PS: Human beings, and human beings make intentional errors sometimes too, so we have to also consider the other side of the coin. Yeah, that isn't the do all end all be all; the sources of information we have to conduct our research, unfortunately I think are kind of tainted as well.

2:13:35 DS: Ah, I disagree with respect to these. These are just the, the officers that were there; they talk about what they saw.

2:14:00 PS: Wolfgang Halbig, is he part of that whole psyop?

2:14:05 DS: Well, of course, of course.

2:14:50 DS: And! The SUITE! He said he had a SUITE! At 5703 Red Buck Lake Road. AH, NO, it was just a MAILBOX at the UPS Store!
2:15:30 PS: Deanna, I'm going to be honest with you. Don't be so trusting of those reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018that are put out there. Because there WAS a conspiracy to do something, we don't know what it is, ...

2:15:55 DS: The BIG ISSUE, is the psychiatric drug industry, which is very big in Connecticut. [...] I think this whole operation, might be damage control for the psychiatric drug industry (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/12/the-sandy-hook-psychopharma-connection/), which makes billions and billions of dollars each year.





So, Deanna's biggest problem evident from the Santilli show snips I've transcribed above, remains her near-total reliance upon THE REPORTShttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4453&stc=1&d=1361024018, committing the Fallacy (https://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Appeal_to_authority.html): Appeal to Authority (https://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Appeal_to_authority.html):




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OX21e9SkII
http://i.imgur.com/XLTJQbd.jpg





The MP3 link to this 3/31/14 Santilli show above, formerly hosted at gsradio.net, is now dead. I found the whole 3 hour show at Santilli's YT channel; but don't worry, Delphi's portion is only 23 minutes. Advance the play bar to 2hr 7m for the top of Delphi's appearance:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcdko0wiXa4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcdko0wiXa4


In my quoted reply above, originally reply #101 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=702049&viewfull=1#post702049), I've edited the minute marks to conform with youtube's version of the show.

The dead gsradio.net MP3 link mentioned above came to my attention after I commented in the Mami's thread for Delphi's most recent Sunstein-Spingola and Friends 7/13/2015 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/07/spingola-and-friends-7132015.html) show, where I pasted a few transcriptions from the Santilli show. 12 comments (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=1449533305224558000) there atm; 2 from Delphi where she laughably dodges the issue of her Santilli show statements, opting instead to try to promote her books. But Delphi's soliciting your shekels for her books is in the good way; not like those eeeevil deceivers, Halbig & Smallstorm, who are just trying to trick you out of your shekels in the bad way... lol.




Deanna (https://www.blogger.com/profile/05963058800259904712) said...
I was on Pete Santilli's program on March 31, 2014 to talk about the first two books. He had asked for pdf copies of them which I sent to him. I had just decided to discontinue my critique of Sofia Smallstorm's video and instead write a book. I had no idea that Santilli was going to bring up the Sandy Hook issue. That was prior to the majority of my research on the SH issue.
July 14, 2015 at 6:31 PM

Scorpio (https://www.blogger.com/profile/13465540813262346914) said...
Deanna turns the thread into another commercial for her books, while simultaneously not addressing any of the issues - lol.
July 14, 2015 at 8:07 PM

Deanna (https://www.blogger.com/profile/05963058800259904712) said...
What issue - LOL
July 14, 2015 at 9:17 PM

Scorpio (https://www.blogger.com/profile/13465540813262346914) said...
Read the thread, Deanna....
July 14, 2015 at 11:14 PM

[PatColo]

I replied again in the Mami's thread for Delphi's 7/13/15 show (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=1449533305224558000). Pasting here for posterity, lest it disappear from Mami's at the whim of a mod:




Zeetip (https://www.blogger.com/profile/12245331535172162037) said...
Until Deanna returns to reply for herself; my guess as to her probable response to her Santilli show statements, which I base upon this, her 7/13/15 solo show, is that she would replay yet again the Halbig clip from
http://tinyurl.com/odkvvod
where, exasperated, Halbig bemoans Deanna's apparent complete faith and reliance "...ON A POLICE REPORT!!"; which Deanna would follow up, again, with forced 'mocking' laughter (rolleyes).

Hey Deanna, can you please ask your past.present.employers.gov.mil snitch friend Keith Johnson when he's going to finally release his epic & comprehensive documentary rebunking "We Need To Talk About Sandy Hook (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/12/10/sandy-hook-documentary-isnt-about-sandy-hook-the-fortress-and-whats-inside/)" ???

He promised this epic rebunking during your 12/14/14 roundtable show, with guests KJ & Anonymous-Wade, shortly after 00:21:30, ref:
http://tinyurl.com/kd7guwg

It's been 7 months now, and we're still waiting for KJ's epic rebunking video, ?!?
July 15, 2015 at 2:43 AM
https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif (https://www.blogger.com/delete-comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=8765220570761212088)

[PatColo]

97 COMMENTS (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/07/spingola-and-friends-7132015.html) presently re Delphi's 7/13 sandy hoax show... :O I'm in there as "zeetip", Ognir's there, and Scorpio (one of mami's mods) all piling on Delphi.

Latest, only one comment atm...


Friday, July 17, 2015

Spingola and Friends 7/16/2015 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/07/spingola-and-friends-7162015.html)





Deanna talks again(Part 3) about Michael Collins Piper's False Flags: Template for Terror (http://www.amazon.com/False-Flags-Michael-Collins-Piper/dp/1937787907/) and The Judas Goats: The Enemy Within (http://www.amazon.com/Judas-Goats-Enemy-Within/dp/098180862X/). See numerous videos of MCP talking about various subjects here (http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=michael+collins+piper&amp;FORM=VIRE2#view=det ail&amp;mid=62D5B3BF0F942261623162D5B3BF0F9422616231). People may listen to his final podcast Michael Collins Piper - Who Really Won World War II? The Inside Story of the Kennedy Dynasty (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGd9i1OTNMU).

Show-page (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/deanna2/2015/07/16/spingola-and-friends) Spingola.com (http://www.spingola.com/index.htm) SpingolaSpeaks.net (http://spingolaspeaks.net/)



Adolf Hitler Mega-post (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/01/adolf-hitler-greatest-story-never-told.html)
The Holocaust Mega-post (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/12/hard-facts-of-holocaust.html)
The New Babylon - PDF (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-new-babylon-those-who-reign-supreme.html)
Who Controls America? (http://thezog.info/)

Download (http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/7/761/show_7761373.mp3)

Posted by WHOOLI (https://www.blogger.com/profile/12745432266860223770) at 8:53 PM 1 comment: (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=1201083820821406523)

[Amanda]

It's up to 98 comments on the DS show on SH hoax. Just wanted to bring this comment over here b/c it sums things up perfectly and I agree 100%:


Jlynn Littleberry (https://www.blogger.com/profile/03344344494198177341) said... All of us, including Deanna, have the
*right* to choose when we will, and when
we will NOT, believe a government report.

Deanna had gotten a good reputation for
not accepting mainstream versions of
historical events, and, when she DECIDED
to embrace the government report, and
for the flimsiest of reasons ("...it was
just the officers on the scene writing down
what the saw..."), that knocked me
(and many others, I suspect) off the bus
(the bus of former admirers of Deanna
as a researcher, podcast host, and truth-seeker).

That hurt!

But, in the end, she exercised her right
to choose to believe a government report,
and, nobody is going to change that.

So be it.

I, along with many former admirers, choose
to discount anything she has to say about
anything, after her stubbornness in adhering
to the pretense that the government report
stands as solid evidence, worthy of being
believed on its own.

By now, even when she has interesting
guests on, I just can't get worked up enough
to listen. I suppose if she were to have
John Kaminski on her show, I'd probably
listen but he wouldn't let her off the hook
on Sandy Hook (that poetic phrase was not
intentional - it just came out).

We may never know just what happened
to Deanna - she may not even know herself,
but, she obviously doesn't see, or won't
admit, that her willingness to believe
the government report discredits her as
a spokesman for those seeking truth
in today's world of so much deception
and fakery, especially by government
public releases.

[PatColo]

^ good reply from jerrylynnb there; jerry I hope you'll paste it into Delphi's latest show thread at mami's (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=1201083820821406523); coz the one you posted it in will see very few eyeballs at this point; the newer show will pick up the discussion baton.

One critique of your reply might be; and yes this gets pretty far afield but IIRC someone above in this thread suggested something similar before; namely that Delphi's (being bribed/threatened/coerced??) assuming her untenable S.Hoax campaign, blatantly using every disinfo ploy in the book, does tend to discredit all her work... notably, holohoax truth & pharma. So your saying you'll probably discount anything she has to say about anything; that sort of reinforces that "CT" about Delphi's taking on her S.Hoax role... knowhatamean? Just a thought... my first guess really, is her controllers' primary intent is to inject cog. diss. into the SH Truth community, cause infighting, divide & rule. "... a world where all realities are possible, but where none are knowable..."

Delphi did have Kaminski on in the past year sometime. Above in this thread I pointed to the Fetcho/Kaminski (or was it with Nick/Bread/Circuses?) show where JK implied that he'd fallen out with delphi over her SH campaign. I know when he was on her show again some months later, SH was NOT brought up, as if by some back room 'pre-agreement' not disclosed to listeners.

[Jerrylynnb]

Yes, Patcolo, I realized after I posted that comment that it might imply that I jump to the conclusion that everything Deanna has promoted is also false. I am familiar with that technique - have an agent promote a theory the controllers want discredited, and, then, after the agent has a massive following, discredit the agent (according to plan), and, thereby discredit the unwanted theory to boot.

I try not to let myself fall for that - sometimes a charleton will actually tell something that is true (What do they say? "A broke clock is right twice a day").

What I mean to say (and not being an English major I'm inept at literary techniques) is that I won't pay ATTENTION to Deanna because she has demonstrated that she got broke, at least once. Since I got no way of knowing what got broke with her, I have to go deaf when she speaks so as not to give, nor DENY, credence to anything she says (she might actually put on a good show about something - but I got no way of knowing anymore).

I tend to be impressionable, so, I try to practice discretion as to who I pay attention to.

The truth is, so many of the topics she explored on her prior shows still seem SPOT ON to me.

She might be an agent, and I wonder about that also, but, it also just might be her motherly instincts clouded her judgement since the tale spun was centered around a horror story about children - I've seen that often enough.

...

I usually get notices from John Kaminski when he appears as a guest on any show (he's good about his mailing list), and I don't recall getting that notice. I'm going to search the archives because I want to listen to all of John Kaminski's appearances, even those on Deanna's podcast. Thanks for the mention. I'm disappointed in John for appearing on Deanna and letting himself be muzzled as to Sandy Hook - that is not the John Kaminski I've grown to admire - I gotta' find that podcast and listen. I heard the show with Fetcho - John is always worth listening to - twice.

[Serpo]

It does get almighty confusing.......who you can trust ect........and if they are an agent for something else.

You see these types of people have been co opted by an out side group/agency/ that basically isnt them , they become something else , they become the group instead of themselves.

They become LOST to themselves by believing or following something/anything that is outside of themselves.

People have all lost themselves kinda and if we where simply ourselves then we would be so much happier and would be following our own true heart(roughly,as close as you can get)

instead of an outside agenda that would take us down the path of basically, I think the Buddha mentioned ILLUSION .......

the dream of the CIA, the dream of the SATANISTS, the dream of Obama, THE DREAM OF THE BANKS, the dream of the JEWS, the dream of RELIGION they end up as POWER struggles ,these are all dreams taking people down some dream path , using the mind , until people become hypothesized or in a type of trance, an occult spell perhaps believing in some stupid fairy tale future.

Dont you see that if we dont live fully in the present then we are caught up in some kind of illusion , that is preventing this from occurring.

It is true but tricky to see but maybe interesting to think about in some way.

LOVE ...........the good , the bad , and the ugly, why not.

Its easier to love than hate and if you do it enough you can love what you hate.........hahahahahah



We all have basic likes and dislikes blah blah.....

If people where absolutely true to themselves and then could never lie , they would have merry hearts and basically take delight in LIVING............its that simple


The pain of holding say 10 billion $ becomes an over whelming thing a burden in fact , all a person really NEEDS is food , clothing and shelter...... anything (extra) becomes obscene in a way , like we value material stuff and self worth over the simple art of living,

where a house and vegetable garden and a reasonable surplus to requirements is basically all we really need ( and if you have pms also , well and good) he he.

But really the obscene blinded quest for money and taking your family to a fluoridated city with its pollution because there are jobs or can earn more is BS, leave now everyone , out of the CITIES , even if they clean up pollution , the cities are a maze of commercial crap

by everyone leaving the country side ,it means they try and come in with agenda 21 and ban it, the country side

................for you will be forever trapped in them (cities)and so not experience the energy that is in the air in the country..................

.FRESH AIR is in my mind the most potent of ALL health foremost requirements.

It clears the mind and is full of energy.......inhale........

The air in the cities , like some rooms , becomes flat and dead, people/ kids / babies breath this in , no one seems to care , when I visit a real big city ,the air is toxic to me and I see parents with tiny children, it literally freaks me out, mainly because I can see it but they cant.

Everyone becomes flat , dull and f*ck I hate it, 3 days is about the most I can handle.



Is everyone getting fresh air?????????????????............no.....

and thats just the start,,,,,

get it if you can because its filled with energy, and it is nice to breath in ,

we require this energy to live, its just to what degree we live at , that matters in the end and is the most important thing above all , but we need good air .

[PatColo]

I usually get notices from John Kaminski when he appears as a guest on any show (he's good about his mailing list), and I don't recall getting that notice. I'm going to search the archives because I want to listen to all of John Kaminski's appearances, even those on Deanna's podcast. Thanks for the mention. I'm disappointed in John for appearing on Deanna and letting himself be muzzled as to Sandy Hook - that is not the John Kaminski I've grown to admire - I gotta' find that podcast and listen. I heard the show with Fetcho - John is always worth listening to - twice.

I just noticed this one

John Kaminski & Clay Douglas July 20, 2015 01:58 PM (UTC) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zFLqLWaM9Q)by Clayton Douglas (https://www.youtube.com/user/Freeamerican69)


4 days ago
295 views


Monday 20 John Kaminski http://www.darkmoon.me/2015/famous-novelist-banned-from-publication-in-united-states/ ..

[Jerrylynnb]

I heard it, but, I had to listen to it as the youtube you cite - I didn't see a way to download it. I recommend this 2 hour show for any who appreciate John Kaminski. He is in top form, as he matches wits with Clay Douglas (an old biker who is very outspoken). They are long-time buddies in this "truth" struggle.

By the way, my last post over at mami's (about Deanna),

http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/07/spingola-and-friends-7132015.html

number 101, got followed by an insult to those of us over here that question
Deanna's stubbornness wrt Sandy Hook - "Nikos Mom" says we lack intelligence (hear her!) because we aren't convinced by the alleged phone call Deanna had with a funeral home director- how can we be so uncaring and hard of heart, eh? A funeral director - wow - that's as close to godliness as you can get - why am I being such a stick-in-the-mud?

It looks like that thread finally died - halleluiah!

[PatColo]

^ yeah that "Nicos Mom" was the only shill in the thread "defending" delphi; and he was doing an awful job of that impossible task-- all ad homs against SH truthers, Halbig etc, and fake "anecdotes". I slammed him further up the thread,
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/07/spingola-and-friends-7132015.html?showComment=1437024868403#c6864534806 328150565

Clay Douglas' YT channel; I've only listened to a few of them, but many interesting guests,
https://www.youtube.com/user/Freeamerican69/videos

Fetzer has a couple recent SH shows; should best be watched on YT as JF has been making heavy use of 'slides' (photos, websites etc) which can only be seen on YT.
MP3s: http://www.radiofetzer.blogspot.com/
YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO9WdbHKyS9UXsmxtK9IdIQ/videos

[PatColo]

recent Delphi 'Talmudic Sandy Hoax Story Key Opinion Leader (KOL)' show, only yielded 2 comments @ mamis; one from an SH truther and response from a Delphi "defender", "....entering into a higher realm of reason." lol... :D




Spingola and Friends 7/23/2015 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/07/spingola-and-friends-7232015.html)

Deanna talks about Sandy Hook and the Damage Control Operation, the Sandy Hook Advisory Commission and other related topics. Visit Deanna's Sandy Hook Research and Notes (http://www.spingola.com/DeannaSHResearch.html) and Screening Sandy Hook (http://www.screeningsandyhook.net/). She also talks about the current CDC and EPA-generated mosquito abatement (http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/health/mosquitoes/mosquitojoint.htm) operations conducted around the country. See information about the poisonous products used for mosquito abatement In DuPage County, Illinois. View Anvil 10 (http://www.clarke.com/filebin/productpdf/anvil1010.pdf) and The Health Effects of Pesticides (http://beyondpesticides.org/mosquito/documents/citizensHealthEffectsMosqP.pdf).

Download

(http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/7/781/show_7781429.mp3)

Posted by WHOOLI (https://www.blogger.com/profile/12745432266860223770) at 6:17 AM 2 comments: (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=8676636249466186436)

[PatColo]

latest show from Delphi, the chief Talmudic Sandy Hoax Story Key Opinion Leader (KOL)... just posted, stay tuned for comments:




Spingola Speaks 2015.07.25 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/07/spingola-speaks-20150725.html)



Deanna talks about various aspects of Sandy Hook; Everyone Must Check In (http://www.spingola.com/everyone_check-in.html); MCI in Connecticut
(http://www.spingola.com/MCIConnecticut.html)
32k CF Download (http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/3nk24lc3gx/Spingola.Speaks.2015.07.25.mp3)



Archive.org Link (https://archive.org/details/Spingola.Speaks.2015.07.25)

Posted by zapoper (https://www.blogger.com/profile/15726967138606494466) at 7:25 PM No comments: (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=8677949724090896284)




http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51V1v2IqxzL.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/Counter-Group-Manipulation-Tactics-Consensus-Building/dp/145051913X)

[PatColo]

^ hey whatduhyuhknow; someone's posted the first comment in the Spingola Speaks 2015.07.25 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/07/spingola-speaks-20150725.html) show thread @ mami's. Hey whatduhyuhknow, it's from ME! (Zeetip). That show thread was posted by mami's mod zapopper, who's had a checkered history of deleting quality replies, & banning users (like ME!)... while not disturbing the troll/shill spew which is pure ad hom attacks. So reposting here;





Zeetip said...
Partially copied from my reply in the "Wolfgang Halbig EXPOSED| Zionist Hack & Anti American" thread:
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/07/wolfgang-halbig-exposed-zionist-hack.html

As I wrote in my 3/6/14 review of this disgraceful "interview",
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story&p=694943&viewfull=1#post694943


"Spingola also 'established' that Halbig, while being Polish-Catholic (not joosh!), is a holohoax believer and a supporter of israel. While this ad-hom surely resonated with the likes of her regular audience and GSUS members; in reality, it just shows Halbig to be joozmedia-brainwashed like most Americans... a blue piller, a sheeple... at least as far as matters WW2 & zionism are concerned. It shows him to be successfully deceived; but it doesn't impeach his honesty or show him to be a knowing deceiver. Another waste of precious, finite show-time which could & should have been spent focused on SHoax anomalies, spent instead on unrelated ad-homs. "


^ This noise from Spingola, who's routinely 'suggested' to her audience that the likes of Halbig & Smallstorm have ulterior motives... namely, monetary gain from this supposed tragedy. While Halbig's fundraising and spending have all been transparent, and while Smallstorm's video has been free to watch on YT/etc since its release; Spingola hopes no one scrutinizes her own pedaling of her book which seeks to profit from Zion.gov's Official Talmudic Version of their Sandy Hoax Story, for which she's a Key Opinion Leader (KOL). Or perhaps Event Management Conspirator, Spingola's latest beloved, scholarly sounding title/label which she slows down and enunciates like a school teacher each time she repeats it while trying to project it onto SH truth seekers, would be a better title for her?

When considering whether Halbig is sincere/legit, a helpful body of evidence to consider is zion.gov's 'guilty demeanor' surrounding all things Sandy Hoax,
http://ppsimmons.blogspot.com/2015/07/sandy-hook-trick-or-treason.html
http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/sandy-hook-elementary

Fetzer interviews Halbig's attorney Kay Wilson on 6/11; YT version (they discuss photos/etc shown during this interview):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS-pxdYt7fA

^ same, MP3 version:
http://s62.podbean.com/pb/db73a6d81b1cdaffdd4f71def3c1dff0/55a320fa/data4/blogs60/722245/uploads/TheRealDealep67UpdatesonSandyHookandJADEHELMmp3.mp 3

"Gov Malloy LIES (Sandy Hook HOAX) to Wolfgang Halbig"; < 2 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FThj8Qm1tvM

July 26, 2015 at 5:30 AM

[PatColo]

"Andrea Mitchell" made a good analogy in the Mami's comments (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=8677949724090896284)for Delphi's 7/25 show. It's wordy and over 4 consecutive replies from her; so I'll leave that for you to read at the link if you're curious. But it's sparked a reply from Delphi, her first and so far only reply in the thread. I'll paste her reply, and my just-posted reply here, for posterity, you know! :D We'll see if she returns to the thread to reply... if not, I'll keep dogging her in future Mami's Delphi SH threads.




Deanna (https://www.blogger.com/profile/05963058800259904712) said...
Whatever Peter Breggin, Wolfgang Halbig or James Fetzer believe about the holocuast is immaterial to Sandy Hook. The majority of the country believes that Germany perpetrated a holocaust against the jews. The focus of my interview of Halbig was not what he believed about the holocaust and his support of Israel but what he believed about Sandy Hook. I was unaware of Breggin's views on that subject. I have interviewed many people who I assume believe in th holocaust. I do not use a litmus test to determine a person's belief in the holocaust before I cite them as a reliable source on another issue or whether I have her/him on my radio program.

July 27, 2015 at 5:12 PM



https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gifZeetip (https://www.blogger.com/profile/12245331535172162037) said...
RE: Deanna @ 5:12 PM,
"Whatever Peter Breggin, Wolfgang Halbig or James Fetzer believe about the holocuast is immaterial to Sandy Hook. The majority of the country believes that Germany perpetrated a holocaust against the jews. The focus of my interview of Halbig was not what he believed about the holocaust and his support of Israel but what he believed about Sandy Hook."

If your claim above that holohoax beliefs are immaterial to beliefs re what happened @ SHES is true, then why in your 3/4/14 Halbig "interview" did you spend nearly the first 1/3, 25+ minutes out of the ~79 minute comm-free version of the show, trying to play "Gotcha!" over non-SHES matters? Your hostile interrogation ranged from specific questions to WH re WW2, Hitler, holohoax & US/israel relationship, obviously calculated to turn your specific audience (you conceded above that WH's holohoax beliefs are in line with most Americans) against WH. Your other questions sought to raise doubts related to WH's history, credentials, experience, and his CSI partnership which was already on the verge of collapse due to friction with his partner over unwanted attention/scrutiny brought to his partner stemming from WH's SHES investigative activity which had gone viral in only the ~month prior to your "interview"?? Was your "Big Perry Mason Moment" in that excruciating first 25 mins of this precious finite WH "interview" time, where you revealed "Suite-Number-Gate-OMG!!" to the collective yawns of the world, really time better spent than discussing SHES?? Sheesh!!

Adding insult-to-injury, in the early minutes of your 25+ min WH hostile-interrogation/ad-hom-based discreditation effort re non-SHES matters, when WH protested that you seem to be focused on trying to discredit him rather than discussing SHES; you insulted WH's and your entire audience's intelligence, by flatly denying the obvious. :(

The remaining ~56 mins of your WH "interview", which you've tried above to characterize (the whole show, actually...) as being focused on what he believed about SHES, was spent instead with YOU doing most of the talking/diatribing, relentlessly interrupting & shouting over WH when he was trying to answer one of your questions or make a point, and your seeking to trip up, scold and "shame" WH. You even exclaimed 41:40 in this "interview", in the middle of another of your long & ridiculous diatribes shutting WH out, "SHAME ON YOU!!"

I encourage readers to (re)listen to Deanna's 3/4/14 WH "interview", perhaps just the first 26 mins, or more if you can stomach it; and see if her "The focus of my interview of Halbig was not what he believed about the holocaust and his support of Israel but what he believed about Sandy Hook" characterization rings true or false; or whether my characterization above, and in greater detail at http://tinyurl.com/odkvvod sounds more spot on.

http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/spingola-speaks-20140303-4.html

^ my test of the "Download" link there (where you'll also find 47 comments):
http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/tilrlvs73q/Spingola_Speaks_2014.03.04_WolfHalbig.mp3

...first yielded only a 192 byte junk file. 2nd try worked. In case of any problem, there should also be a copy.com-hosted MP3 of the show at http://spingolaspeaks.net/2014-guests - scroll to the 3/4/14 WH show, to find its copy.com link:
https://www.copy.com/s/1jSawaQLIChHT273

July 28, 2015 at 8:56 AM

[PatColo]

Mami's, I'd guess mod zap who has a history of this (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?60988-great-truth-radio-podcast-blog-no-commercials!&p=698738&viewfull=1#post698738) while he publicly touts his belief in "free speech", and who posted the initial Delphi show, has already deleted/censored my comment above.... :o

That's why I make these "...for posterity" posts of particularly laborious Mami's replies, to this thread also. Anyone see anything objectionable to my reply above?

I'll repost it there again momentarily, prefixed with a query about by who & why was my reply deleted... and a link to my first copy above, time-stamped by GSUS (which I believe is GMT for GSUS visitors?). >:(


Edit: I'd noticed Mami's mod WHOOLI this time, posted Delphi's latest show (below)... so instead I (re)posted my reply to her in that thread, at the time it was reply #6, timestamped July 28, 2015 at 11:16 AM. It was deleted inside of 10 minutes.


Spingola and Friends 7/27/2015 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/07/spingola-and-friends-7272015.html)

Deanna talks about Sandy Hook and the Damage Control Operation, the Sandy Hook Advisory Commission and other related topics. Visit Deanna's Sandy Hook Research and Notes (http://www.spingola.com/DeannaSHResearch.html) and Screening Sandy Hook. (https://www.screeningsandyhook.net/)

Download
(http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/7/786/show_7786707.mp3)
Posted by WHOOLI (https://www.blogger.com/profile/12745432266860223770) at 4:32 AM 5 comments: (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=3399193315800867477)


2nd edit: "oddly", my 11:16 AM reply was reinstated into the comment thread. It was definitely deleted before, was there showing 6 replies, then replies dropped to 5 with my 11:16 reply deleted, and now my reply is baaaaack... & reporting 6 replies again. Maybe zapoper passed out with his bottle; and WHOOLI reinstated the reply??

Mami's mod WHOOLI maintains their *The Holocaust Mega-post (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/12/hard-facts-of-holocaust.html) entry, wherein you'll find the very first of that long list of links, *Introduction to the Holocaust Hoax (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/08/introduction-to-holocaust-hoax.html), points right to this, our humble GSUS forum. :)

[PatColo]

CC'ing more 'for posterity' replies from Mami's to here. Incidentally, I learned that 'zapoper' was not the mami's mod who was deleting/censoring replies there... so zap, should this post pass before your eyes, sorry buddy & your name is cleared in this incident. But you were still a dick for banning me last year-- albeit you un-dicked yourself somewhat when you unbanned me a few months later after seeing that I was still posting replies at will.




https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif Zeetip (https://www.blogger.com/profile/12245331535172162037) said...

RE: Deanna July 28, 2015 at 5:54 PM

"Absolutely, if I have a private conversation with an individual via email I would not publish it on my web site or mention the person's name on the air."

Deanna, I already expressed my appreciation of your proficiency with Talmuic "Unethical-Ethicism", as displayed in your character assassination attempts against Halbig. Ref:
http://tinyurl.com/pshzj5h

You cleverly injected (NLP'ed??) into listeners' minds, the pretend-notions that:
1. WH is losing his mind
2. WH is a fraud professionally
3. WH is lying about his past role in the Columbine event investigation

... which you attributed to an email message from, in your words, I have talked with people who are really in the school safety, aaah, field; and I have communicated with them; and I think it would be unethical of me to share anybody's name that I communicated with; but one of the statements of one of these 'real experts' said, [...]".

^ That's a lot of ad-hom slander against WH which you injected into listeners' minds, Deanna, without providing a SOURCE nor a stitch of evidence. But listeners weren't supposed to notice, coz you sought to blind them to it by your dropping the word "unethical" into your UNethical WH smear.

When you're not demonstrating your Talmudic Rhetorical Joojitsu skills as with your ad-hom WH smears above (aka disinfo rule #5, www.globalresearch.ca/twenty-five-rules-of-disinformation/24889 ); you're buttering up your listeners ('marks') with false flattery about how super-duper smart and admirably outside the groupthink box are. Then, you try to 'sell' (swindle) us a big kosher groupthink turd pie, in the form of the Official Talmudic Sandy Hoax Story™, as you evidence principally by the claims made by the Official Talmudic SH Report™, and also by some other joozmedia reportage from J. York Times and such, for good measure. This sales con from someone who labels themself a 'Revisionist Historian'...

Making your SH con attempt even sneakier & more Talmudic still, you spend at least half your pitch skooling us about all the wolves out there we need to be cautious of; the Delphi-ers, the Key Opinion Leaders (KOLs), the Sunstein Cognitive Infiltrators, on and on... all designed to neutralize listeners' ability to recognize that the SOURCE of all this 'free skooling', is themself seeking to con us.

Your employment of these textbook Talmudic 'Flip the Script & Project' joojitsu maneuvers is impressive, Deanna. Granted, still rough around the edges, as surely as most of your 'marks' see right through your maneuvers. But, if you keep practicing at home in the mirror, before we all know it, you'll be the female version of this Shlomo:

http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/21857_700b.jpg
http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/21857_700b.jpg

July 30, 2015 at 5:14 AM




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https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif Zeetip (https://www.blogger.com/profile/12245331535172162037) said...

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story

^ is my messageboard thread under their "General Discussion" subforum. But leave it to Deanna to try to dis-characterize it, fraudulently puffing it up into "a web site designed for the exclusive purpose of bashing me", for maximum 'VICTIM™ of Irrational Poisekution!' effect/sympathy. I already said previously,
http://tinyurl.com/qxqrspt
that I'm AKA the "PatColo" poster there.

Additionally, my pet name for Deanna is "Delphi", where Colin's pet name is "Spingy".

It seems Deanna's publicly pronounced suspicions WRT all things Sandy Hoax, proves wrong once again.

July 30, 2015 at 5:42 AM
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[PatColo]

^ those 2 replies above, and the ongoing dialog, can be read at
"Spingola and Friends 7/27/2015" (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/07/spingola-and-friends-7272015.html)
guus' current software bug is preventing me from editing that reply. :(

[PatColo]

Just posted @ Mami's an hour ago. I might listen, prolly not, maybe if the comments prove interesting?


Spingola and Friends 8/10/2015 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/08/spingola-and-friends-8102015.html)

Deanna talks about Adam Lanza and his history. Please visit her very comprehensive Sandy Hook Research page which covers numerous issues and take note of the following links: The Dynamics of the Delphi Technique; Orchestrated Opposition Increases Credibility; It is not about Gun Control; Crime Scenes in the United States – NO DEAD BODIES; Mr. Halbig, Your Answers, Please, Halbig’s 16 Questions, the answers to Halbig’s 16 questions; Video of program here; Death Certificates are NOT Public Records; Deanna also shared some information from her book, Screening Sandy Hook, Causes and Consequences.
Show-page (http://spingolaspeaks.net/2015/08/10/spingola-and-friends-84/) Spingola.com (http://www.spingola.com/index.htm) SpingolaSpeaks.net (http://spingolaspeaks.net/)
*The Holocaust Mega-post (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/12/hard-facts-of-holocaust.html)
*Adolf Hitler Mega-post (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/01/adolf-hitler-greatest-story-never-told.html)
*9/11 Mega-post (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/12/fox-banned-news-9-11-israeli-connection.html)
The New Babylon - PDF (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-new-babylon-those-who-reign-supreme.html)
Who Controls America? (http://thezog.info/)

Download

(https://spingolaspeaks.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/2015-08-10-saf84.mp3)

Posted by WHOOLI (https://www.blogger.com/profile/12745432266860223770) at 9:58 AM No comments: (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=7169853437589609324)

[PatColo]

".... and the beat goes on!" :D






Spingola and Friends 8/13/2015 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/08/spingola-and-friends-8132015.html)

http://antinwo.com/files/Deanna%20Spingola%202.jpg (http://antinwo.com/files/Deanna%20Spingola%202.jpg)

Continuing on from Monday’s broadcast, Deanna shares more information about Adam Lanza’s childhood history. Please visit her very comprehensive Sandy Hook Research page (http://spingola.com/deannashresearch.html).
Show-page (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/deanna2/2015/08/13/spingola-and-friends) Spingola.com (http://www.spingola.com/index.htm) SpingolaSpeaks.net (http://spingolaspeaks.net/)

*The Holocaust Mega-post (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/12/hard-facts-of-holocaust.html)
*Adolf Hitler Mega-post (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/01/adolf-hitler-greatest-story-never-told.html)
*9/11 Mega-post (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/12/fox-banned-news-9-11-israeli-connection.html)
The New Babylon - PDF (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-new-babylon-those-who-reign-supreme.html)
Who Controls America?
(http://thezog.info/)
Download

(http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/7/832/show_7832035.mp3)

Posted by WHOOLI (https://www.blogger.com/profile/12745432266860223770) at 4:55 PM 3 comments:

(https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=17908184424068394)




My 2 so-far comments:





Zeetip (https://www.blogger.com/profile/12245331535172162037) said...Deanna shares more pretend truthy information about Adam Lanza’s childhood history, as "sourced" entirely from bonafide joosh "sources" who never lie, and who always tell the kosher twoof... yawn.

Several questions still remain unanswered by Deanna and her fanboys' latest astroturfing sock 'Michzel' from her last Talmudic Sandy Hoax Story Key Opinion Leader (KOL) show:
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/08/spingola-and-friends-8102015.html

So tell us Michzel: WRT your favorite "...investigative reporter [and] a teacher and a trail blazer showing by example HOW to get to the truth" guy, MCP; are you in MCP's (proclaimed) Boston Hoax-A-Thon-Was-Also-Real camp; or are you instead on board with Deanna and the other Boston 'HOAXERS'?? LOL :D

Do you Michzel, like Deanna, 'wonder aloud' whether the SH 'hoaxers' are being paid by big pharma... meanwhile being a 'hoaxer' yourself WRT Boston??

Drawing from MCP's own words, speaking of a topic which I believe he knew all too intimately. Ref:
http://tinyurl.com/qe7ap99

"[...] You know, someone can be an AGENT, working for somebody or some intelligence agency, or some force, and genuinely be anti-zionist, or genuinely be a critic of Israel. But they may still have another AGENDA. Because even some of these intelligence agencies have, how can I put this; you know, the left hand doesn't always know what the right hand is doing. [...]"

^ Heh, surely a coincidence that MCP seems to be describing MCP and the whole Pro Talmudic Sandy Hoax Story KOL team there!

I mean, a shill or a con(fidence) artist would NEVER have the AUDACITY, the CHUTZPAH, to deceive their targets by aggressively posturing themselves as "#1 Shill/Con/DELPHI-er WATCHDOG", would they?!? Deanna?!? :D

Separately, a couple recent Dr. Tracy guest appearances, both 1 hour:

w/host Patrick Henningsen,
http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/08/12/manufactured-terror-in-the-homeland

w/Guns & Butter,
http://gunsandbutter.org/blog/2015/08/12/sandy-hook-and-the-politics-behind-mass-shootings
August 15, 2015 at 12:13 AM



https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif (https://www.blogger.com/delete-comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=2318597979390097461) https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif Zeetip (https://www.blogger.com/profile/12245331535172162037) said...August 14, 2015
$25K Reward Offered for “Irrefutable Proof” Sandy Hook Massacre Was REAL
http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/08/14/25k-reward-for-hard-evidence-sandy-hook-massacre-was-real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RygOWYQEcXQ

I can already imagine a woman named 'Dianna' breathlessly running down the street to this guy's ^ house, waving around her Official Talmudic Sandy Hoax Report™, and her $33.44 book "SPINing Sandy Hoax", & screeching hysterically,

"I've got your irrefutable proof right here! These are just the, the officers that were there; they talk about what they saw!! Now gimme my shekels!!" lol :D
August 15, 2015 at 12:43 AM

[PatColo]

I neglected to post this 7/20 Delphi show to this thread:


Thursday, July 23, 2015
Spingola and Friends 7/20/2015 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/07/spingola-and-friends-7202015.html)
Deanna dissects and critiques her infamous interview of Wolfgang Halbig conducted on March 4, 2014, View calendar for audio file (http://spingolaspeaks.net/2014-guests/); See Notes/Links (http://www.spingola.com/halbignotes.html); see the Timeline (http://www.spingola.com/CensorshipOperation.html) on the page, Operation Censorship (http://www.spingola.com/CensorshipOperation.html). View the protocols of a Mass Casualty Incident (http://www.spingola.com/Unraveling2.html)(MCI). On June 25, 2015,Halbig resurrected the debunked "everyone must check-in sign" during an interview (http://americanfreepress.net/podcast/WolfgangHalbigFOIC.mp3) with Dave Gahary (AFP) following his Freedom of Information Commission in Connecticut. Read Dr. Jim Fetzer's article, The Ugly Truth about Michael Collins Piper, Cass Sunstein and Sandy Hook (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/01/the-ugly-truth-about-michael-collins-piper-cass-sunstein-and-sandy-hook/) published on May 1, 2015.

Show-page (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/deanna2/2015/07/20/spingola-and-friends) Spingola.com (http://www.spingola.com/index.htm) SpingolaSpeaks.net (http://spingolaspeaks.net/)
Adolf Hitler Mega-post (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/01/adolf-hitler-greatest-story-never-told.html)
The Holocaust Mega-post (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/12/hard-facts-of-holocaust.html)
The New Babylon - PDF (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-new-babylon-those-who-reign-supreme.html)
Who Controls America?
(http://thezog.info/)
Download

(http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/7/777/show_7777507.mp3)

Posted by WHOOLI (https://www.blogger.com/profile/12745432266860223770) at 10:10 AM




12 comments (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/07/spingola-and-friends-7202015.html):
I haven't listened to this ^ show, but from one of the commenters above, in at least part of this show, Delphi tries to wring some mileage out of MCP's death by disparaging Fetzer for his 'cruelty' for his article, The Ugly Truth about Michael Collins Piper, Cass Sunstein and Sandy Hook (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/01/the-ugly-truth-about-michael-collins-piper-cass-sunstein-and-sandy-hook/) published on May 1, 2015 (I was also unaware of this article before!). Notice, JF's article was published about 1 month before MCP's death (due ultimately, I believe, to his alcoholism (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/08/spingola-and-friends-8102015.html?showComment=1439519239343#c5481708045 65296873)).

I'll paste JF's whole article here, coz with JF & Duff @ VT having parted ways, who knows how long that article will remain hosted at VT? There are numerous audio clips embedded in the VT version which I can't migrate here; they are embedded player consoles at the VT page & not MP3 files.

___________________


The Ugly Truth about Michael Collins Piper, Cass Sunstein and Sandy Hook (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/01/the-ugly-truth-about-michael-collins-piper-cass-sunstein-and-sandy-hook/) By Jim Fetzer (http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/fetzer/) on May 1, 2015



http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/mcp11-236x320.jpg (http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/mcp11.jpg)

Given the extraordinary attention that has been devoted to dissecting the sensational events in Tucson, Aurora, Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/30/the-nexus-of-tyranny-the-strategy-behind-tucson-aurora-and-sandy-hook/), I would have thought that those who deny that they were “false flag” or staged events orchestrated by elements within the federal, state and local governments are either unfamiliar with the evidence or cognitively impaired.



Imagine my astonishment to discover a new book, False Flags: Template for Terror (http://shop.americanfreepress.net/store/p/587-FALSE-FLAGS-Template-for-Terror.html) (2013)–featuring images of Lee Harvey Oswald, Osama bin Laden, Timothy McVeigh, Adam Lanza and Dzhokhar Tsamaev on its cover–in which Michael Collins Piper argues instead that those who believe Sandy Hook (http://http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/01/07/top-ten-reasons-sandy-hook-was-an-elaborate-hoax/) and the Boston bombing (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/05/10/boston-bombing-new-hampshire-vs-jim-fetzer/) were false flag events are not simply wrong about the facts of the matter but are implementing the program of “cognitive infiltration” advanced by Cass Sunstein as tools of the government.



I have done research of my own on most of these subjects, including Cass Sunstein in “Birds of a Feather: Subverting the Constitution at Harvard Law (http://http://911scholars.ning.com/profiles/blogs/birds-of-a-feather-subverting)“, which was first published and available at OpEdNews until its editor, Rob Kall, made it unavailable (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/06/06/rob-kall-the-petty-tyrant-of-opednews/), apparently because I was submitting articles about 9/11 implicating Israel in the plot. Since no lesser an inside authority than Steve Pieczenik has confirmed that Sandy Hook was a false flag event, I was floored by Piper’s stance.



YouTube - Veterans Today -

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EfyD7Wu5fQ)

I suppose I should not have been surprised, therefore, to discover that he also targets Alex Jones, who interviewed Pieczenik, as another Sunstein stooge. Piper claims that those of us who are implementing Sunstein’s plan (by infiltrating JFK, 9/11 and other “truther” groups in order to sow dissension and controversy and thereby disrupt and discredit them) focus excessively on the question of HOW these events were done (such as the number of shooters that were fired in Dealey Plaza and where JFK was hit) rather than WHO was responsible and WHY. As his book promo states,
All sorts of misleading “theories” and phony “research” muddied the waters, redirecting attention away from WHO was responsible and into focusing instead into endless competing and distracting arguments about HOW the assassination was carried out. As a consequence, truth seekers got bogged down in complicated discussions about how many shots were fired, where those shots hit JFK and how many assassins were involved. The same type of thing happened after the Oklahoma City bombing and then with 9-11 and it even took place during the past year in the wake of the tragedies at Sandy Hook and Boston. There has been a plethora of theories relating largely to inconsequential details about how these conspiracies were orchestrated and the consequence has been that much of the independent research has become bogged down in forensic and scientific debate (much of it actually ill-founded). The result is that even many Americans who suspect there’s something wrong with the U.S. government’s “official” versions of “what happened” in these cases begin to reject the idea that real conspiracies were behind these events. The truth seekers are dismissed as “nuts.”


But it appeared to me that no one can sort out what really happened WITHOUT nailing down “the details”, which are therefore ANYTHING BUT “inconsequential”. I discussed this odd and unexpected stance by Piper with John Friend, who maintains a blog about these questions and who–along with so many others (http://ajmacdonaldjr.wordpress.com/2013/12/29/sandy-hook-hoax-or-truth-tracy-smallstorm-fetzer-vs-michael-collins-piper/)–agrees with me that Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing are OBVIOUS “false flags”. So he suggested that Piper and I might have a debate about Sandy Hook, which he would host during his own radio show. He wrote to Piper and we set up the debate to occur Wednesday, 8 January 2014, from 11 AM-1 PM/ET (http://www.john-friend.net/2014/01/the-realist-report-sandy-hook-debate.html).


The First “Debate”
Imagine our astonishment when we received an early AM email from Michael Collins Piper tells us that he was experiencing physical problems with his foot and leg and could not participate in the scheduled debate. So John notified his readers that Piper had withdrawn in this statement:



http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/The-Realist-Report-8-January-2014.jpg

(http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/The-Realist-Report-8-January-2014.jpg)
He and I proceeded to have an extended, two-hour discussion about Sandy Hook, covering most of the issues, which, to judge from comments about our conversation posted on his blog–apart from those distracted by the question of how the video footage of Flight 175 hitting the South Tower were faked (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/02/20/911-planesno-planes-and-video-fakery/)–implied that we had rather thoroughly dismantled the Piper position and that there was really not a lot left to discuss. Piper, however, was enraged by John Friend’s use of the word, “backed out”, which offended his sense of fair play and justice. Of course, he HAD withdrawn (or “backed out”) ostensibly on the basis of medical problems, which EXPLAINED why he had withdrawn but did not alter the fact of the matter. This led to a series of extraordinary emails from Piper in which he viciously and irrationally attacked both John Friend and me, which, in my opinion, display a remarkable loss of mental balance and great emotional instability. These emails, which were originally sent to the editors of American Free Press and of the web site, “The Ugly Truth”, which apparently is managed by Mark Glenn, Keith Johnson and Piper, are so completely disgusting that, were he to engage us in a lawsuit, as he has threatened, his attorney would move to exclude them on the ground that they are inflammatory and would bias a jury against him:



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As you can see from this graphic, there were quite a few, more than 30 in the first set and then another 40 or more in subsequent exchanges, in the three categories (or subject lines) provided here. The upshot, however, was that Piper insisted he still wanted to debate me over Sandy Hook, so we rescheduled the debate to be hosted by the web editor for American Free Press, David Gahary, this time on Thursday, 16 January 2014, now from 3-5 PM/ET.


The Second “Debate”
Imagine my surprise when “The Ugly Truth” published a story with the following headline on Tuesday, 14 January 2014 (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2014/01/14/michael-collins-piper-hospitalized-following-what-cardiologists-have-described-as-massive-heart-attack/), two days before the rescheduled debate:



Michael Collins Piper hospitalized following what cardiologists have described as ‘massive’ heart attack
It is with great worry and personal distress that I bring to the notice of the readers of TUT the news that our dear friend Mike Piper has been hospitalized following what cardiologists have said was a ‘massive’ heart attack.
It occurred last week in the middle of the night and lasted for several days afterwards. At this point he is undergoing a battery of tests to determine the extent of the damage done to his heart. I spoke with him just prior to his being taken to the emergency room yesterday and have just finished speaking to him now. He is obviously very worn out but as of this moment is in the best place he can possibly be.
Needless to say, I was not surprised. This announcement was accompanied by a blast at John Friend and me for having observed that Piper had backed out of the earlier debate, which of course was a fact. Piper had already told others that the doctors had no idea what was wrong and were going to run more tests. So I took a day to absorb the situation and then, on Wednesday, 15 January 2014, posted the following comment:

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It was predictable that I would be savaged by his supporters, but I did not expect to read comments from those more knowledgeable about cardiac issues to add their opinions to the mix,


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which Mark Glenn dismissed with the back of his hand, remarking, “I tend to think that a cardiologist working at one of the nation’s top hospitals is slightly more qualified to make a medical diagnosis on this matter than you are.” But thenursechronicles called his bluff:


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We have a nice encapsulation of the ethics and integrity of Mark Glenn in running “The Ugly Truth”. When I had initially express skepticism that Michael Collins Piper had suffered “a massive heart attack”, Mark Glenn had responded, “Everything that has been stated is fact as opposed to the fantasy-based stew which you spew ad nauseum. ‘Apparent mental instability’? ‘Under stress’ because of an upcoming debate? ‘Stress-induced angina’?” But his miraculous recovery in just two days offers convincing evidence that I and thenursechronicles had it right. For a study in duplicity and the credulity of their followers, just read this blog with care (http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2014/01/14/michael-collins-piper-hospitalized-following-what-cardiologists-have-described-as-massive-heart-attack/).


The Third “Debate”
Because of the stress Michael Collins Piper was under and Mark Glenn’s refusal to engage in a debate in his stead, it fell to their “Number 3″, Keith Johnson, who agreed to debate me on Thursday, 23 January 2014, from 8-10 PM/CT, with David Gahary as the host. It was announced on the American Free Press web site as “Date with a Debate: Jim Fetzer vs. Keith Johnson” (http://americanfreepress.net/?p=14908), on 21 January 2014, and became the most read article there. For the first time, I actually had an opponent to debate, where our exchange–the debate itself–is archived here (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americanfreepress/2014/01/24/date-with-a-debate-fetzer-vs-johnson).


The response was rather telling. Even on a relatively neutral web site where Michael Collins Piper, Mark Glenn and Keith Johnson had considerable pre-debate support (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/01/sandy-hook-jim-fetzer-vs-keith-johnson.html), their fans were dismayed:


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Another baker’s dozen or more comments about the debate can be found at the AFP web site, “Date with a Debate: Fetzer vs. Johnson” (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americanfreepress/2014/01/24/date-with-a-debate-fetzer-vs-johnson), which features a post by Wolgang Halbig, the expert on school security, whom I cited toward the end of the debate and whom I also mention again below. It seems to me that he is the single best-qualified expert in a position to address these Sandy Hook questions, where I am especially glad that he surfaced in time for me to cite his research, which is on-going. James Tracy has now published a blog about him, “Retired Cop and Educator Threatened for Questioning Sandy Hook Investigation” (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/01/25/retired-cop-and-educator-threatened-for-questioning-sandy-hook-investigation/), which includes an hour-long interview with me for “The Real Deal” (http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com).


Assessing the Outcome
Reflecting on our exchange, I think there are several reasons — apart from his obvious lack of preparation — that Keith Johnson did not fare well. One is that he never responded to the points I made right off the bat about the suppression of information about the deaths of the alleged victims. I had expected him to raise the issue of the Social Security Death Index (SSDI), which lists their names, but where it would have been the most obvious records for the government to have fixed in a case like this, where local, state and federal elements appear to be involved. I was therefore going to explain why that would be most easily fabricated evidence, which for that reason should be given the least weight.


He also never made one of the points I had anticipated by attempting to debunk the portable sign, “EVERYONE MUST CHECK IN”, and the name tags on lanyards. I had gone to the trouble of contacting a former Gold Shield NYC Detective about this, where I asked him if that was standard practice or if he had ever heard of it being done a crime scene, which he answered with a simple, “No.” He is a very stand-up guy, who actually arrested one of the assassins of JFK, Frank Sturgis (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/12/28/six-jfk-shooters-three-tied-to-cia-named-oswald-not-among-them/), when he came to New York to kill Marita Lorenz to make sure she did not testify before the House Select Committee on Assassinations when it reinvestigated the case in 1977-78. She did testify and gave it boxes of supporting evidence, which it simply ignored.


Some of the most powerful evidence I adduced concerned the strange behavior of the alleged parents and relatives of the victims, including Gene Rosen, who played a key role in confirming having heard shots from the school and comforting six of the children who survived by providing them orange juice and allowed them to play with stuffed animals. Because I found his testimony incredible, I contacted the former head of the FBI’s Rapid Response Psychiatric Unit, who confirmed what I had suspected in spades. While his analysis of the problems with Rosen’s testimony would have come to Keith as news, since it was not included in “Top Ten Reasons: Sandy Hook was an Elaborate Hoax”, he should have been prepared to deal with the other points I made, most of which were taken directly from that article.


In addition, I introduced new evidence from a former Florida State Trooper and school principal, Wolfgang Halbig, who is a nationally-recognized expert on school safety and related issues (http://childrenssafetyinstitute.com/our-story/). He was so troubled by the “official account” that he has made many inquiries about an FBI investigative report on Sandy Hook, which has been sent to President Obama, Attorney General Eric Holder and former Director of the FBI, Robert Mueller. He has been rebuffed and told it is “classified”, but why in the world should that be the case? It ought to have been included with the “final report” from Connecticut, not withheld from the public. Because of Wolf’s inquiries about Sandy Hook, two Lake County, FL, homicide investigators showed up at his home and, on behalf of the Connecticut State Police, threatened him with prosecution should he continue to ask questions about Sandy Hook. “Why would they classify an FBI report about a school shooting”, he asks, “if it was on the up-and-up?”, which I regard as a very good question. None of this makes any sense unless we are dealing with the on-going cover-up of an elaborate hoax.


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[PatColo]

(^ continued...)


The Poll Results
I am not suggesting that my performance was flawless. During the final segment of my presentation, I cited the case of Alicia Hannan, who is a special technician for the FBI and whose husband and daughter were with her. I was sent a link about her by Keith Johnson himself (http://www.insanemedia.net/sandy-hook-cast-of-characters-alicia-hannan/2477), which I found very plausible. He claims to have located “Alicia”, who is actually a resident of Sandy Hook. I find that very peculiar but, if he is right, then he “snookered” me. I am more impressed by Sofia Smallstorm’s observation that, if Emilie Parker was on Obama’s knee, then she cannot be the older child who sang at the Super Bowl, which means one of those identifications must be in error. And James Tracy thought that I “lost points” by a direct exchange with Keith toward the very end, to which I plead, “Guilty!”.


But those lapses, such as they may be, do not compensate for the quality and the quantity of the evidence I advanced, where most of his responses committed one or another of the three fallacies I expected he would employ and defined at the very beginning, the straw man, by exaggerating my position to make it easier to attack; special pleading, by citing on the evidence favorable to your side and ignoring the rest; and the ad hominem, which he employed again and again in an attempt to discredit the arguments made by Mike Power, for example, where he simply ignored my own confirmation as an expert who supervised recruit training and marksmanship as a commissioned officer in the US Marine Corps.


Nevertheless, the poll results were strongly in favor of Keith Johnson. While they were initially running 3-1 in my favor over the first 120+ votes cast, the trend would later change, where a comparison of these two snap-shots is rather instructive:



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The last report I have about their current totals is that Keith Johnson has around 1200 votes and I only 700, which is quite remarkable. American Free Press has determined that the poll was flawed because, simply by refreshing the page, you could vote again and again. I encourage everyone to listen to the debate and draw their own conclusions about this, since my expectation would have been — given the comparison between the earlier and later results of the second poll (about AFP doing more on Sandy Hook) — I would have expected the first poll results to have been approximately proportionally the same.
NOTE: The latest (corrected) poll results have now been published (http://americanfreepress.net/?p=14908) and they appear to be accurate as follows:


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Interpreting the Outcome
The chat room was very active during the debate, but so was Mark Glenn, who made repeated efforts to bias chat room participants negatively toward me and in favor of Keith Johnson. Here is a sample from the final stages of the debate only for the purpose of illustrating the role he took in attempting to influence opinions:




[21:53:58] DaveGoldsmith : Mark is fizzling out and running out of ammo
[21:54:04] mark glenn : HAHAHAHAHA
[21:54:08] mark glenn : another funny one
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[21:54:18] AnnaSmith0 : It was I suppose the best they could do but it did not demonstrate an effective investigation

[21:54:22] mark glenn : what whit

[21:54:32] mark glenn : ok
[21:54:36] satanicjewsclues911 : Fetzer kicked Da-Nuts..
[21:54:48] mark glenn : then if it is not accurate, then AHY are you citing it?
[21:54:51] mark glenn : WHY
[21:54:51] satanicjewsclues911 : What a Wimp…
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[21:54:57] TuLe0 : fetzner is a joke
[21:55:00] AnnaSmith0 : No suspect statements..the dismissal of potentially relevant evidence
[21:55:06] mark glenn : ok
[21:55:10] mark glenn : again
[21:55:23] mark glenn : WHY are you citing it
[21:55:29] AnnaSmith0 : It’s all they gave
[21:55:34] Fake War : when fetzer is debunked by accurate Boston Bombing and Sandy Hook investigations/documentaries – he will be shown up as the puffed out fool he is
[21:55:37] mark glenn : to ? what Keith is saying?
[21:55:46] mark glenn : no FW
[21:55:47] AnnaSmith0 : You can’t make it up
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[21:55:50] mark glenn : he won’t
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[21:56:09] Fake War : he ought to be

[21:56:10] mark glenn : arguing with people like Fetzer is like debating someone who beieves the moon is made out of swiss cheese

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[21:56:17] mark glenn : how do you reason with someone like this?

[21:56:23] Fake War : someone should shut him up

[21:56:24] DaveGoldsmith : What is Keith contributing?
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[21:56:27] TuLe0 : FW… I think all this has been debunked… 911, boston, sandy,
[21:56:29] mark glenn : listen
[21:56:34] DaveGoldsmith : What garbage
[21:56:44] satanicjewsclues911 : What a Ignoranus.
[21:56:47] mark glenn : Keith has provided hard evidence
[21:57:11] mark glenn : if your brains worked you would be following up on these items
[21:57:12] DaveGoldsmith : You mean he is a blowhard!
[21:57:14] mark glenn : but you are not
[21:57:18] mark glenn : for one of 2 reasons
[21:57:20] satanicjewsclues911 : Keith sound like he is going to cry.
[21:57:31] mark glenn : either you are under the spell
[21:57:35] mark glenn : or you are shills
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[21:57:41] DaveGoldsmith : Give Keith a suppressant. He has lost it
[21:57:48] mark glenn : No he has not
[21:57:51] mark glenn : Keith was a cop
[21:57:53] satanicjewsclues911 : Shills? What Dat?
[21:58:01] mark glenn : he was an investigator
[21:58:05] mark glenn : for almost 20 yeaaars
[21:58:07] mark glenn : years
[21:58:12] mark glenn : he did this for a living
[21:58:18] satanicjewsclues911 : Big Deal, more reason not to Trust him
[21:58:36] mark glenn : oh, so we trust Fetzer instead?
[21:58:39] mark glenn : yeah, makes sense
[21:58:40] DaveGoldsmith : He wants more “stuff”. Man, Keith’s intellect does not reach Dr. Fetzer’s ankle.
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[21:58:42] mark glenn : congrats
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[21:58:48] mark glenn : you get the idiot of the night award
[21:58:52] mark glenn : after Fetzer of course
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[21:59:32] DaveGoldsmith : Dr. Fetzer won hands down

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Let me add that I bore no ill-will toward any of “The Ugly Truth” crowd before I discovered their support for the “official accounts” of Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing. In fact, I interviewed both Mark Glenn and Michael Collins Piper on “The Real Deal” in the past,


WEDNESDAY, JUNE 30, 2010

Mark Glenn

USS Liberty

MONDAY, OCTOBER 4, 2010

Mark Glenn / Denis Rancourt

What’s up with Obama’s Staff? / The 9/11 Movement

WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 1, 2012

Michael Collins Piper / Joshua Blakeney & Mimi the Syrian Girl
THE NEW BABYLON / The Syrian Situation
FRIDAY, AUGUST 10, 2012
Michael Collins Piper
FINAL JUDGMENT: Israel’s role in JFK’s assassination


Perhaps even more strikingly, during the Santa Barbara 50th Observance event, “JFK: The Assassination of American” (http://jfk50santabarbara.com), during my keynote address and following, I cited Michael Collins Piper’s work on possible Israeli involvement in taking him out, especially because JFK was butting heads with David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister of Israel and its principal founder, over Israel’s desire to develop nuclear weapons. I explained that, while Israel appeared to be among the SPONSORS of the event–along with the CIA, the Joint Chief, the anti-Casto Cubans, the Mafia, the Eastern Establishment (in relation to the FED) and the Texas oil men–I could only identify one of at least six shooters who could be tied back to the Meyer Lanksy crime syndicate, which Piper posits as the key–but not exclusive–connection to Israel. The FACILITATORS were LBJ and J. Edgar Hoover, where I have discussed THE MECHANICS–the shooters and their supervisors and coordinators (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/12/28/six-jfk-shooters-three-tied-to-cia-named-oswald-not-among-them/)–elsewhere.


So I have not only shown no animosity toward Michael Collins Piper or Mark Glenn in the past, I have actually supported them by featuring them on my show. I am now inclined to agree with him about the Cass Sunstein strategy of infiltrating “truther” groups in order to sow dissension and embarrass the movement in ways that contribute to the public perception of us as “crack pots” and as “mentally unstable”. Piper is pushing for another round with John Friend and me, which may take place as early as Monday, 27 January 2014. On the basis my experience with “The Ugly Truth” thus far, however, I am also convinced that he has pointed us in the wrong direction, where his own views on Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing are so woefully inconsistent with the available evidence that they cannot be qualified as rational beliefs. And this, I believe, is the reason why, when we turn to their public persona, we find so much that is ugly and so little that is true.


Jim Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer, is McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth.

Related Posts:

After two defeats over Sandy Hook, AFP editor declines a third debate (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/01/28/after-two-defeats-over-sandy-hook-afp-editor-declines-a-third-debate/)
A FEMA Capstone Event unraveling: More proof Sandy Hook was staged (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/13/a-fema-capstone-event-unraveling-more-proof-sandy-hook-was-staged/)
Sandy Hook: My pick of the “Top Ten” articles / videos / interviews (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/06/21/sandy-hook-my-pick-of-the-top-ten-articles-videos-interviews/)
Sandy Hook and the real “Robbie Parker”: SpotterRF, DHS and the C (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/05/16/sandy-hook-and-the-real-robbie-parker-spotterrf-dhs-and-the-cia/)

[Jewboo]

".... and the beat goes on!" :D

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Can you and Amanda maybe provide us with an updated conclusion of what you two agree really happened at Sandy Hook? This rabbit hole is way too deep for me and my headlamp is running out of batteries. We should just politely cover up Piper's body with some rocks and keep going down the rabbit hole. What do you and Amanda agree really happened at Sandy Hook?

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[PatColo]

^ offhand, and speaking only for myself, I'd guess SH was a previously scheduled "active school shooter drill", which "went live" on 12/14/12. SHES was taken out of commission, and used only for storage, since May/June '08. Sandy Hook, the only one in the 16 towns in the county of Newtown with its own unique zip code, is some kind of CIA spook town; witness protection, whatever. I'd have to look it up again, but I recall there was not only a masonic temple there, but also a "Church of Satan".

Separately, I've been active in this most recent Delphi SH thread at Mamis, comments. (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=17908184424068394)

& Separately separately:

JFriend published this ~2.5 months ago. I saw it at the time, but didn't think to post it here (cross-posting this to 3 relevant threads). But I just returned to it in my searching for something else. It's odd coz JFriend was fired by Carto last year. And then, "at some point" (??), was re-hired... JF never posted a similar blog entry announcing his return to AFP, the way he did when he was fired last year (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?78597-John-Friend-fired-from-American-Free-Press).

Thursday, May 28, 2015
Willis Carto: Champion of the American Right (http://johnfriendsblog.blogspot.com/2015/05/willis-carto-champion-of-american-right.html)

Esp notice the 30 comments, many good ones. One posts audio of a 2006 MCP/Carto radio show interview.
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php...52743137342838 (http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=04399652743137342838)

Another comment points to this disgusting Keith Johnstein Sandy Hoax researcher hit piece, "Sandy Hook Parents Could Be In Danger (http://americanfreepress.net/?p=17698)".

[Jewboo]

^ offhand, and speaking only for myself, I'd guess SH was a previously scheduled "active school shooter drill", which "went live" on 12/14/12...



I'm trying to distill this down to your guess of what is real about Sandy Hook:

1) Active shooter drill was in place?

2) Adam Lanza was the actual shooter?

3) Bunch of real kids were killed?

:) Yes or no to these three questions would make me happy.

[Amanda]

What do I think happened at Sandy Hook? I think it was an active shooter drill and the filmed it and presented it to us as a real event. Professor Tracy has a post on it here http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/10/08/femadhs-12142012-plan-for-mass-death-of-children-at-a-school-by-firearms/ and someone sent him the manual here https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/drill-site-activation-call-down-exercise-plan_a.pdf It was for an "Emergency Response for Mass Casualties Involving Children." Inside the manual, at the bottom of page 14, it says exercise play will begin 12/13/12, and on page 15, it says it will be evaluated on 12/14/12 as a real-time event. There was no shooter and nobody died (though it's possible people died in the cover-up--I think there were a couple of suspicious deaths). Sandy Hook Elementary School was NOT an operational school--probably decommissioned in 2008 (the school was in disgusting condition--if you go through the evidence photos, it's quite clear that the school was closed)

[Jewboo]

What do I think happened at Sandy Hook? I think it was an active shooter drill and the filmed it and presented it to us as a real event. Professor Tracy has a post on it here http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/10/08/femadhs-12142012-plan-for-mass-death-of-children-at-a-school-by-firearms/ and someone sent him the manual here https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/drill-site-activation-call-down-exercise-plan_a.pdf It was for an "Emergency Response for Mass Casualties Involving Children." Inside the manual, at the bottom of page 14, it says exercise play will begin 12/13/12, and on page 15, it says it will be evaluated on 12/14/12 as a real-time event. There was no shooter and nobody died (though it's possible people died in the cover-up--I think there were a couple of suspicious deaths). Sandy Hook Elementary School was NOT an operational school--probably decommissioned in 2008 (the school was in disgusting condition--if you go through the evidence photos, it's quite clear that the school was closed)

Excellent summary. Thank you Amanda.

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Basically they framed this innocent mentally-ill/drugged chump. He really dead?

Same thing with the so-called Boston Bombing? Two muslim chumps framed during an Active Drill for killing no one?

:)

[Amanda]

@PatColo--Just to let you know, that "The Ugly Truth about Michael Collins Piper, Cass Sunstein, and Sandy Hook" article you posted above was actually published a year or so ago. The only reason it says May 2015 is b/c Duff took all of Fetzer's articles down after they had their falling out over Jade Helm and then he decided to re-post at least some of them in May.

@JewBoo- I actually don't think Adam Lanza ever existed. That's just my opinion. Others who also see this as a hoax may have a different opinion. As for the Boston Hoaxathon, I also believe that was a drill and nobody was really injured (except for the cops killing the older brother Tamerlan, the FBI killing Tamerlan's friend Todashev, and something happening to the younger brother when they SWAT teamed him off the boat--I think he got his throat slit or something).

[Jewboo]

@JewBoo- I actually don't think Adam Lanza ever existed. That's just my opinion. Others who also see this as a hoax may have a different opinion. As for the Boston Hoaxathon, I also believe that was a drill and nobody was really injured (except for the cops killing the older brother Tamerlan, the FBI killing Tamerlan's friend Todashev, and something happening to the younger brother when they SWAT teamed him off the boat--I think he got his throat slit or something).



Thank you again Amanda. Chaney personally directing the 911 Live Drill, Building 7, and the Patriot Act already pre-written convinced me of large scale psyop productions. Boston and Sandy Hook fakery with actors to justify congressional support for our Orwellian militarized police state isn't a stretch.

http://www.newyorker.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/140317_r24733-320.jpg

The lengths they go to convince us:

The Reckoning (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/03/17/the-reckoning)


:o

[PatColo]

@PatColo--Just to let you know, that "The Ugly Truth about Michael Collins Piper, Cass Sunstein, and Sandy Hook" article you posted above was actually published a year or so ago. The only reason it says May 2015 is b/c Duff took all of Fetzer's articles down after they had their falling out over Jade Helm and then he decided to re-post at least some of them in May.

Thx :). Yeah I meant to return to update/clarify that article. In skimming it I thought, what's 'new' about any of this? >1.5 year old stuff. But there was the 2015 date at the top clear as day, so I posted it here. After, I thought to check the reader comments, and saw they begin Jan '14, the real publication time.

I wonder what's with Duffy re-posting Fetzer articles which he'd previously removed? And with a misleading pub date to boot?! ???

[PatColo]

The lengths they go to convince us:

The Reckoning (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/03/17/the-reckoning)


:o

The Sandy Hook-Psychopharma Connection « Memory Hole (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/12/the-sandy-hook-psychopharma-connection/)
^ that Solomon author is a CFR member, the pharma-drug-addled boy of Forest Labs ex-CEO, and of course, a joo. :)

on ur previous 3 SH question, my guesses: yes prescheduled drill, no one killed on 12/14/12 at SHES or the "Lanza home", and "Adam" was/is a photoshop creation.

[Jewboo]

The Sandy Hook-Psychopharma Connection « Memory Hole (http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/12/the-sandy-hook-psychopharma-connection/)


^ that Solomon author is a CFR member, the pharma-drug-addled boy of Forest Labs ex-CEO, and of course, a joo. :)

on ur previous 3 SH question, my guesses: yes prescheduled drill, no one killed on 12/14/12 at SHES or the "Lanza home", and "Adam" was/is a photoshop creation.

http://www.outdoorbasecamp.com/new/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/cave20.jpg

Thanks PatColo and Amanda. I obviously need to go way way further down the rabbit hole. The enormity of their planning and coverup is simply mind boggling.

[PatColo]

Havent listened, prolly won't, check mamis comments...

Spingola and Friends 8/20/2015 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/08/spingola-and-friends-8202015.html)
Deanna talks about Connecticut’s Psycho-Pharma Cover-Up and The Stacked Sandy Hook Advisory Commission, information from her book, Screening Sandy Hook: Causes and Consequences (http://www.amazon.com/Screening-Sandy-Hook-Causes-Consequences/dp/1490754393/).

Download (http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/7/846/show_7846989.mp3)

Posted by WHOOLI (https://www.blogger.com/profile/12745432266860223770) at 8:23 PM 7 comments: (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=9128464011248518943)

[PatColo]

^ also forgot this delphi show 2 days earlier, see comments,


Spingola and Friends 8/17/2015 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/08/spingola-and-friends-8172015.html)

http://antinwo.com/files/Deanna%20Spingola%202.jpg (http://antinwo.com/files/Deanna%20Spingola%202.jpg)
Continuing from 8/13, Deanna gives more information about Adam Lanza's history. Please visit her very comprehensive Sandy Hook Research page (http://www.spingola.com/DeannaSHResearch.html), covering numerous issues. Deanna uses information from her book, Screening Sandy Hook, Causes and Consequences (http://www.amazon.com/Screening-Sandy-Hook-Causes-Consequences/dp/1490754393/).

Download

(http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/7/846/show_7846977.mp3)

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[PatColo]

latest,


Spingola and Friends 8/27/2015 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/08/spingola-and-friends-8272015.html)
Deanna talks about George W. Bush, TMAP, psych drugs, corporatocracy, Medicare and Medicaid, economic assault on the country, etc. View her Sandy Hook Research page (http://www.spingola.com/DeannaSHResearch.html). Deanna also uses information from her book, Screening Sandy Hook, Causes and Consequences (http://www.amazon.com/Screening-Sandy-Hook-Causes-Consequences/dp/1490754393/).
Show-page (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/deanna2/2015/08/27/spingola-and-friends) Spingola.com (http://www.spingola.com/index.htm) SpingolaSpeaks.net (http://spingolaspeaks.net/)
*The Holocaust Mega-post (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/12/hard-facts-of-holocaust.html)
*Adolf Hitler Mega-post (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/01/adolf-hitler-greatest-story-never-told.html)
*9/11 Mega-post (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/12/fox-banned-news-9-11-israeli-connection.html)
The New Babylon - PDF (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-new-babylon-those-who-reign-supreme.html)
Who Controls America?
(http://thezog.info/)
Download

(http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/7/867/show_7867483.mp3)

Posted by WHOOLI (https://www.blogger.com/profile/12745432266860223770) at 9:02 PM 1 comments: (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=2745755933910674891)


1 comment atm: :D




Zeetip (https://www.blogger.com/profile/12245331535172162037) said...
To anyone here who 'takes one for the team' and actually listens to this, Deanna's latest solo Talmudic Sandy Hoax Story-enshrining KOL podcast; could you advise us whether she gives us any early guidance as to what we should believe re the zio's latest fake shooting-tragedy-of-the-week; starring Adam West, Burt Ward, and of course the tragedy-magnetism-afflicted Parker family among others?

"Alison Parker's father", played by professional actor Andy Parker, even asked Megan Kelly how many more Sandy Hoaxes we need before we finally get the guns out of the hands of these undiagnosed/untreated CRAZIES?!?

Still pending further verification; but beat on the street is, during the pretend Vester The Molester "manhunt", he actually drove to the restaurant where Lenny Pozner and his boy Noah were known to enjoy matzo ball soup together every Wed morning; and Vester reportedly popped Noah AGAIN right there, murdering the lad for a 3rd flippin time, for good measure! :O As Vester fled the scene, Lenny was heard to be angrily shouting, "Damn you!! I'm gonna have your youtube channel taken down for that, you know!! Quick, someone catch that copyright violator!! Oy vey!!" :'(


August 29, 2015 at 12:10 AM

[Amanda]

Review of Spingola's SH book: http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/09/13/on-a-rolla-a-review-of-screening-sandy-hook-by-deanna-spingola/

September 13, 2015 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/09/13/on-a-rolla-a-review-of-screening-sandy-hook-by-deanna-spingola/)
on a Rolla: A Review of “Screening Sandy Hook” by Deanna Spingola 12 (http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/09/13/on-a-rolla-a-review-of-screening-sandy-hook-by-deanna-spingola/#comments)

by James Tracy (http://memoryholeblog.com/author/truthgulag/) • Guest Posts (http://memoryholeblog.com/category/guest-posts/) • Tags: government conspiracy (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/government-conspiracy/), public opinion (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/public-opinion/), Sandy Hook Elementary (http://memoryholeblog.com/tag/sandy-hook-elementary/)
Submitted by “Lophatt”

I recently received a call from a friend who asked,”Did you hear about Screening Sandy Hook by Deanna Spingola”? My answer decried my ignorance, as I had not even heard of Ms. Spingola to begin with. After a brief discussion, I learned that Spingola was a radio personality of sorts who hosted a regular podcast on
“American Free Press.” I was advised that she had https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/screeningsh.jpg?w=474 (https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/screeningsh.jpg)previously been a skeptic of the official story of the Sandy Hook Elementary School Massacre (SHES), but had recently done an about face on the issue. Indeed, it seemed that Ms. Spingola had rather suddenly begun to launch radio diatribes at various researchers involved with SHES. What could have happened to affect such a sudden and complete rejection of her earlier position and compel her to target fellow researchers in such a belligerent manner?


Not having any preconceptions of Spingola or her work, my friend suggested I might be a good candidate for the task of looking into this mystery. So I began to visit Spingola.com (http://spingola.com) and to listen to some of her earlier podcasts to get a feel for her past and current dispositions. I ordered a copy of “Screening Sandy Hook” ($23.44) and began to read.


It is indeed a weighty tome, (581 pages) replete with copious footnotes (1497), and various manufactured acronyms and pejorative buzzwords. The stated thesis of the book is that “Adam” Lanza, poisoned by pharmaceutical drugs, went on a murderous rampage that resulted in 26 deaths. Spingola cites several sources who at least suggest that such a possibility exists. In the tradition of Ann Coulter, she uses footnotes as evidence of research. Remarkably, the only citations listed are from those who tend to agree with her, (at least partially).


Up to approximately the midpoint of the book, Spingola continues a tedious monologue against all things corporate, government, professional, and the media. Anyone who has ever been trapped at a bar with someone who is doing a total “mind dump” on the world will be familiar with the narrative. It isn’t that I necessarily disagree with a lot of what she says: such a diatribe seems too vast and depressing to be the subject of one book. Many of us already know all about the subjects she raises, although, carrying on as she does, Spingola seems unaware of that fact. While she acknowledges the work of others in some of the fields she discusses, those writers whom she deems unworthy are unceremoniously dismissed. It isn’t so much that she disagrees: she rejects the person as well as their idea. Anyone who holds a contrary view to her own is a paid agent of the pharmaceutical industry or an ignorant dupe.


As an example of her tortured logic, we have her assessment of Robbie Parker:

Robbie Parker is a physician’s assistant originally from Ogden, Utah. who relocated to Connecticut after living in Oregon and New Mexico. Connecticut’s Department of Public Health has a licensing verification website, which allows people to search the credentials of any service provider who is required by the state to be licensed, including physician assistants. According to the website, Parker has a license to practice in that state although his license has a New Mexico address because he lived there when he received his license, issued on September 28, 2011. A person cannot become a PA-C until he or she has passed the NCCPA-administered Physician Assistant National Certifying Exam, which allows the individual to practice in all fifty states. Parker lived in New Mexico prior to finding a position in Connecticut. He is not an actor. Earning a degree as a certified physician assistant requires passing a rigorous certification exam in addition to obtaining one hundred Continuing Medical Education (CME) hours and reregistering their certificate with the NCCPA every two years.


There you have it. He’s too well educated to be an actor. Spingola appears to have a ready, dismissive answer for anyone questioning the Sandy Hook event. Evidence that cannot be easily dismissed is simply “excused” as mistakes made in the heat of the moment. Early anomalies, such as the alleged call to the “Newtown Bee” from Dawn Hocksprung are simply excited reporting. Criticism by Dr. James Tracy, and others, is deemed “premature” and out of context. Researchers of long standing are simply “hoaxsters” and “disinformation agents.”

https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/spingola.jpg?w=300&h=225 (https://memorygapdotorg.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/spingola.jpg)“Screening Sandy Hook” author Deanna Spingola. Source: spingola.com



As a running testament on her personal beliefs and the world in general, I suppose this isn’t the first instance of a self-absorbed, self-published “me book.” Generally, such books are written by people who through their reputation, many wish to know better. Someone who has established a following and is noted for their expertise in a subject might be expected to use their book to clarify their known positions. There are no revelations or keen insights to be found among the ponderous and hypercritical narrative offered here by Spingola, whose website is titled “Spingola Speaks,” I might add. The book could have been titled: “My Judgement on Everything”. It isn’t that she is necessarily wrong about much of what she says (with the exception of her serious misunderstandings of Sandy Hook research and the motives of the researchers), it is her annoying lack of any stated logic for her absolutism that begins to wear on the reader. She is contemptuous of the medical profession, but amazingly, relies on it to support her theories!


Part Five of “Screening Sandy Hook” is reserved for ridicule of all who have questioned the official media story. While Spingola refers to many researchers indirectly (by way of the ever-present footnotes), she unleashes a special degree of vehemence for Tracy. She also targets Dr. Jim Fetzer, Alex Jones, Wolfgang Halbig and others as examples of KOLs (Key Opinion Leaders) — a buzzword/acronym invented by her and used the way truck drivers might refer to bad drivers encountered on the roads. Another favorite term of hers is “hoaxologist”. This is reserved for those KOLs not in leadership positions. When referring to certain others, she makes a point of bracketing “researcher” in quotation marks. This, no doubt, is to distinguish such miscreants from herself.


It seems that Spingola believes (or says she believes) that all of these mass shooter events are real. They are all caused by pharmaceutical poisoning. The pharmaceutical industry, in league with government and media, have conspired to hide this fact. Those in the alternative media and researchers into the recent staged shooting events are either knowing accomplices, working in collusion with “Big Pharma” or ignorant dupes and sensationalists seeking an audience. Those who discuss their findings online are “hoaxologists”. Spingola makes some small distinction between “disinformation” and “misinformation” — a matter of motive and knowledge. She gives no credence to any who either differ with her drug-induced causation theory or the truthfulness of the events themselves. I suppose this isn’t too surprising in light of the fact that the object of her personal theory in this case may be a phantom. It wouldn’t do to have poisoned madmen turn out to be fictional characters or for deadly rampages to become manufactured drill scenarios.


In support of her position that researchers appearing in the alternative media are illegitimate or agents of hidden interests she cites none other than Cass Sunstein, Obama’s Administrator, Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. This is especially interesting, in that her other views on other subjects, such as 9-11 would surely be openly condemned by this individual.

….millions of people believe in conspiracy theories and to counter them, (1) the government must understand how they flourish and (2) how it might undermine the ‘identifiable cognitive blunders’. They said attempts to persuade theorists to abandon their ideas only provided “further proof of the conspiracy”. Officials decided that they could be most effective by “cognitive infiltration” into such groups and introduce [sic] “diverse viewpoints” and “informational diversity”…to expose indefensible conspiracy theories as such


She even has a section on Anderson Cooper whom she finds very professional. She claims that the official report of the Sandy Hook incident is thorough, professional and comprehensive. She chastises others for not reading the report and refusing to rely on official sources.


None of this would be noteworthy but for her former expressed views on SHES. There are several “hoax busters” on the internet who specialize in ridiculing research. Indeed she cites W.C. Wade as a reliable authority several times throughout her book. Those familiar with “American Free Press” may note that it is known for its unorthodox positions on several issues. Notwithstanding that, Spingola herself was known for her support of Sandy Hook research. She interviewed several Sandy Hook researchers previously with favorable commentary. Suddenly, there is a total reversal. It isn’t simply a rejection of the researcher’s ideas, it is a rejection of the researchers themselves. What to make of it all?


I confess that I have not reached a conclusion on the original question. The search has resulted in being introduced to Ms. Spingola’s work in a general sense, and perhaps more importantly, her style. She seems a decent interviewer. She allows the interviewee to talk. Unfortunately that skill does not overcome her tendency to judge and negate others and their information in a capricious and dismissive manner. She is not discussing ideas; she is judging others’ ideas and finding them wanting. One gets the sense of a self-satisfied elitist entertaining herself. Ironically, this is exactly what she accuses the “hoaxologists” of doing — basing opinions on speculation and group think.


It seems that Spingola became aware of the Delphi Method in her readings. This obviously struck a nerve, and she ascribes all manner of nefarious policies and reactionary conspiracy theories to the machinations of those skilled in its use. Being no stranger to the method and its uses, I find her concerns overstated and even misapplied. What Spingola is implying in her tedious way is that conspiracy theories involving media manipulation of reality are all imaginary. This is hard to square with her other theories that seem not to differ much from SHES research, other than the subject matter.


So, was I able to answer my friend’s question? Alas, no. I was able to discern that Deanna Spingola’s method for reaching her conclusions is rather simple. All she does is declare it so! If a person’s research leads in another direction, he or she is simply wrong. The reason for her reversal is not apparent in her book, although she has based it on the one shooter hoax most easily exposed. Her earlier position confirms that she knew of the controversy before deciding to use SHES as her example. It is beyond question that this (reversal / about face?) is what she has done. She has simply stated that “Adam” Lanza was either high on drugs or coming off of them and went on a murderous rampage. Those who think otherwise are simply wrong. As an example of her superior powers of perception she states that she is not a doctor, but she has diagnosed “Adam” as (initially) the victim of mercury poisoning. So there! The rest is more of the same.


As to the original question, it seems apparent that Ms. Spingola may be a product of the company she keeps. For my money her company can certainly keep her and her book.

comments here: http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/09/13/on-a-rolla-a-review-of-screening-sandy-hook-by-deanna-spingola/

[EE_]

2 Weeks Later – Virginia Shooting Hoax Completely Vanished From Mainstream Media
SEPTEMBER 13, 2015
By Bernie Suarez

Throughout alternative media over the last few years many people have written about what to look for in a false flag. Many including yours truly have outlined steps to look for when trying to diagnose the next government false flag. Many of us have a good grasp on what to look for. Let’s review some of these common trends:

1 – Police, military or federal agency “drills” are almost always going on at about the same time of the staged event.

2 – The accused patsy is always followed by and/or in contact with FBI, police or other government agency for months or years prior.

3 – Accused patsy is often aided by the same federal agencies with the acquisition of weapons needed for the false flag event.

4 – Patsies almost always end up dead usually due to “suicide,” deadly “manhunt” or they are captured in a physical or mental state that ensures they won’t be speaking much.

5 – Patsies almost always leave behind one of those bizarre “manifestos” which conveniently outline all their intentions that seems to always fit perfectly into the scripted official story.

6 – Mainstream media jumps on the story with the usual over-the-top 24/7 coverage to make sure you are aware of the story, always thinking about it, and you are afraid.

7 – Damaging contradicting facts, video footage, audio, documents or social media/online revelations are always completely ignored by mainstream media.

8 – When applicable, conflicting information is almost always erased, blocked or closed out by Facebook, Twitter or YouTube, etc.

9 – The control system resorts to accusations of “conspiracy theories” very early on to discourage anyone from looking too deeply into the story being presented.

10 – Early on, we see strange-acting family members on TV crying without tears, displaying inappropriate affect and emotion, and quickly calling for gun control or some other political agenda in response to the event.

11 – Politicians are also always on TV immediately calling for new legislation in response to the event. The political “solution” always takes away more and more of our freedoms and gives more and more power to the federal government.

These 11 items are just a glimpse of the repeated script we’ve seen played out here in America every time the controllers orchestrate a false flag crisis-actor event.

After the recent Virginia TV Reporter staged shooting event at the end of August 2015, however, I want to add one more crucial item to look for only because we’re seeing it now so blatant and so obvious.

12 – If the false flag terror, shooting or bombing event is exposed convincingly, and it seems like too many people are figuring it out due to newly released evidence, then pull the story completely out of the public consciousness as a form of damage control by having the story vanish completely from the mainstream media news.

This is what we are now seeing. It’s been slightly over 2 weeks now and the media has said nothing about the Virginia TV Reporter shooting like it never happened. Could it be that this silence which began over a week ago is directly related to the overwhelming evidence of a second take in the staged shooting incident? This evidence did after all put a major crimp in the authenticity of the story. It was the death blow in a long list of entirely unbelievable coincidences. Some lies are difficult to recover from once too many people know; and, as we are seeing, sometimes it’s best to pull the whole story out of the media and hope it fades away for good.

Here’s something for everyone to consider. Perhaps the initial shock value and the reaction of the masses to the shooting was the whole point of the shooting. I’ve discussed another possibility recently which everyone should at least consider and that is – what if it was intended for truth seekers and alternative media to figure out that this latest shooting was fake? Sounds ridiculous? Not if you consider that we are still in the final days of operation Jade Helm where Jade 2 artificial intelligence software is still reading, absorbing and observing the reactions and actions of the human domain. That’s right. It is quite possible that humanity is being played with ridiculous false flag events just to observe and record the effect it has so that artificial intelligence software can use that information for future strategizing against the human domain. This is a primary stated purpose of operation Jade Helm and for that reason all truth seekers should be thinking on their feet and remaining highly vigilant.

So this lightning speed removal of the Virginia shooting story from mainstream media should also serve as a reminder that researching every item of a false flag and spreading the information early on is important and sometimes can change the course of how the story is being told as we are seeing here.

Ironically, I spoke about this topic briefly almost a year ago when few people noticed that the 2 year Sandy Hook shooting anniversary came and left while the mainstream media practically ignored the anniversary of the entire event. This no doubt was in response to all the information that became available about the Sandy Hook crisis actor shooting that many people didn’t know the year before. CIA’s mainstream media clearly made a strategic decision to tune the event out of people’s minds in December of 2014. Will they make the same decision this year or will they stage a new shooting to revive the Sandy Hook feelings again? Will they coach a new eyewitness analogous to the “I shot Bin Laden” psyop of Spring 2015?

I mentioned in my article then regarding the Sandy Hook ignored anniversary phenomenon, if the Sandy Hook shooting was real and all those hildren died in a bloody massacre, think of how big of a deal it would be to ignore the second anniversary of the supposed largest mass shooting in the history of the United States involving children. That’s exactly what happened December of 2014 and again this seems to be another sign to look for with failed false flags.

Thanks to the Internet and the information and technology age we live in, we can now diagnose government false flags in nearly real-time. It’s exciting to dismantle government and mainstream media lies as fast as we’re able to do it today. Let’s just hope these skills humanity has developed for sharp discernment for false flags can be harnessed in a more meaningful way.

Despite the skills humanity has amassed at diagnosing false flag events we still lack the skills at ensuring proper and swift justice and punishment is carried out on the perpetrators. And we have also failed at forcing police and government agencies to be transparent with all records surrounding the investigation of these false flag events. They continue staging these events in part because they continue to operate both immunity and in secret. All of the investigative records continue to be kept a secret from the general public.

So let’s hope truth seekers, activists, investigators and independent media can use the recent already-forgotten Virginia TV Reporter shooting to implement these necessary improvements when the next false flag event comes around. For if we cannot do this then we are just trading information with each other for the sake of information while nothing really gets done about the corruption behind these events.

Solutions

This latest false flag reminds us that as politicians use these events to call for more gun laws and less freedoms, we should be using these events to call for more and more transparency in investigations for the purposes of defending against staged events and false flags. We need a truth and transparency mass counter effort. Let’s support those who are putting their lives and reputations on the line to expose events like the Sandy Hook show, Boston bombing, Virginia shooting and other false flag politically driven events because important counter corruption and counter secrecy legislation could potentially gain traction.

Ultimately, as I mentioned earlier, we are seeing the result of information-sharing and that is why it’s important to share information and help spread the truth whichever way you can. With the Virginia shooting completely faded (for now) from the pubic mind, let’s consider this another small victory for truth. Remember that the controllers usually don’t let go stories so quickly. They usually want to get as much out of a story as possible. So let’s begin familiarizing ourselves with the psychology of the presentation of these stories. What drives these stories into the news and what drives them out? Let’s ask questions like – why does one story in the news last one day while another lasts for weeks? Observing these patterns and developing the skills to answer these questions will make all of us experts at diagnosing propaganda, staged news, and crisis actor false flags.
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/09/virginia-shooting-hoax-completely-vanished-from-mainstream-media.html