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mick silver
21st January 2014, 06:38 AM
The Sudden Legalization of Marijuana Is Profoundly Immoral By Staff Report - January 21, 2014

Ex-DEA agent jumps jobs to join marijuana investment firm ... In a decade with the Drug Enforcement Administration, Patrick Moen rose to supervise a team of agents busting methamphetamine and heroin rings in Oregon – before giving it all up to join the nascent legal marijuana industry in nearby Washington state. In November, the former federal drug agent quit his post to work for a marijuana industry investment firm, and says he relishes getting in on the ground floor of a burgeoning industry he was once sworn to annihilate. – Reuters
Dominant Social Theme: The US makes many mistakes but the US is a good country and one that is getting freer all the time.
Free-Market Analysis: We take our cue from Reddit.com on this one. We sometimes read Reddit despite the often irritatingly socialist tone of its commentators.
In this case, we've noticed that numerous articles on the growing trend toward marijuana decriminalization are accompanied by commentary that places the trend in the context of expanding American "freedoms."
And that is just one example. We've noticed the same kind of commentary appearing elsewhere. Being suspicious types, we are apt to believe this is not purely coincidental.



We could make an argument that, like so much else in this weary world, marijuana's emerging status is part of a larger series of elite calculations.
That is, despite the growing authoritarianism (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/2606/) of the nation as a whole, the increasing marijuana decriminalization is being positioned as evidence that in the US, especially, there are trends that are counteracting the worst excesses of Homeland Security, etc.
In other words, it's a kind of dominant social theme (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/652/). Here's more from the article:
As managing director of compliance and senior counsel for Seattle-based Privateer Holdings, Moen has added his name to a small but growing list of individuals with unlikely backgrounds who have joined or thrown their support behind state-sanctioned marijuana enterprises.
In Oregon, another former Portland-based DEA agent, Paul Schmidt, who retired from the agency in 2010, recently set up shop as a consultant to medical cannabis businesses after working as a state inspector of medical pot dispensaries in Colorado.
Last year, former Mexican president Vicente Fox visited Seattle to trumpet support for a pot firm fronted by former Microsoft executive Jamen Shively. The Seattle police department is weighing whether to allow officers to moonlight as security guards at pot shops slated to open later this year.
Moen, whose jump has been criticized by his former boss at the DEA, said that even as his profile within the agency rose, he nursed a growing sense that the marijuana cases he worked, and the laws underpinning them, were wrongheaded.
Moen says he is working to foster a reputable pot industry that will hasten an end to the drug's prohibition and allow the DEA to sharpen its focus on drugs that are truly harmful.
"I saw this as an amazing opportunity to be a part of the team that's helping to create this industry, " Moen, 36, told Reuters. "I don't really feel like it's the other side."
While marijuana remains illegal under federal law, some 20 states and Washington, D.C., allow for its medical use. In 2012, voters in Washington state and Colorado became the first to legalize adult recreational use of the drug.
Colorado and Washington state have fed the momentum for pot liberalization efforts elsewhere, with a legalization measure likely to go before Alaska voters in August and activists in Oregon collecting signatures to get a similar initiative on that state's November ballot.
... The U.S. Department of Justice announced in August it wouldn't interfere with state efforts to regulate and tax marijuana provided they're able to meet a set of requirements that include keeping it away from children and restricting its flow into other states
Moen's value to Privateer likely will come in guiding the company on how to steer clear of activities that raise red flags with federal authorities, said Hilary Bricken, a Seattle-based marijuana business lawyer. "It's extremely ironic," she said. "You go from cracking skulls to supporting the very effort that you once vowed to entirely destroy."
Seattle-based DEA Special Agent in Charge Matthew G. Barnes, the top-ranking DEA official in the Pacific Northwest, called Moen's career change an act of abandonment. "It is disappointing when law enforcement officers, sworn to uphold the laws of the United States with honor, courage and integrity, abandon their commitment to work in an industry involved in trafficking marijuana," Barnes told Reuters in a statement.
Note the bottom of this excerpt. Some are not pleased with Moen's decision while others discern irony in the actions of someone who took a job with the US government to repress certain activities that he now wants to support.
On a larger level, what is going on is profoundly immoral. Certainly for the past 50 years or more untold lives have been ruined by incarcerations over a "drug" that has been used for millennia either recreationally or as part of a sacred ritual.
The larger dominant social theme here is the elevation of regulatory democracy (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/1862/) and the assumption by many who work within the system that whatever the system makes available is what people must accept as the "law."
If the law says black is black one day and black is white the next, people ought to obey the dictates without question.
Thus, we wait to see if there will be any backlash to the coming legalization of pot, which is being promoted, in our view, as a cynical exercise to distract people from the creeping – galloping – authoritarianism of the West and its "war on terror."
Most importantly, we will wait to see if the decriminalization of marijuana generates more scrutiny of the Western system of "public" jurisprudence generally and provides the impetus for people to explore the past history of law enforcement. Perhaps they will discover the millennium-old traditions of private justice that worked so much better than the current system.
In any event, we have no doubt that marijuana will be decriminalized and even legalized not just in the US but around the world. There is big profit to be made, even though the larger intention is surely to distract from the troublesome expansion of the current Western Leviathan (http://www.thedailybell.com/definitions/params/id/28179/).
Another reason may be that a whole new industry will spring up around this plant that can serve as a positive jolt for fading Western democracies.
But on a purely objective note, the "mainstreaming" of marijuana is to be celebrated. From paper, to potential cancer cures, to numerous other practical uses, marijuana has proven historically to be one of the most healthful and useful plants known to humankind.


Conclusion The real crime was its criminalization in the first place.

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Hatha Sunahara
22nd January 2014, 07:02 PM
I'm really skeptical about the commercial prospects of the marijuana industry. All the people lined up to cash in on this trend are going to be looking for work elsewhere when their optimism hits the brick wall of reality.

Anyone who can grow weeds in their back yard can grow marijuana. It's the easiest plant in the world to grow. And if you grow it yourself, you don't have to buy it from anyone, you know what the quality of it is, and you don't have to pay taxes.

When you factor in taxes, profit, and uncertainty of quality, the incentive to grow your own will far outweigh the demand people will put on pot stores. During all these years of prohibition, just about everybody who uses it either grows their own, or knows someone who does. The reason it costs upwards of $300 an ounce is because of the risk taken by the suppliers. When that risk is gone, the world won't be anything like it has been. And people who plan to make money from selling pot are going to be sorely disappointed.


Hatha

Glass
22nd January 2014, 07:27 PM
beer is apparently easy to make. In fact alcohol in general is easy to make, however 99% of the population seem to buy it instead of making it. Suggesting that people are lazy (cough too busy cough) and would simply prefer to consume someone elses efforts.

The big issue I see is how long before the product itself is debased by the people selling it? As you see, everything gets debased over time, substituted or altered in someway to increase profits. Its a tried and true method of business...... for some people.

Ponce
22nd January 2014, 08:42 PM
It is "Immoral" only if the government doesn't make a profit of your profit..... even if I don't use it I can tell you that is less dangerous then drinking.

V

iOWNme
23rd January 2014, 04:54 AM
"A Vice is not a crime.

Vices are those acts by which a man harms himself or his property.

Crimes are acts by which one man harms the person or property of another.

Vices are simply the errors which a man makes in his search after his own happiness.Unlike crimes, they imply no malice towards others and no interference with their persons or property.

In vices, the very essence of crime - that is, the design to injure the person or property of another - is wanting.

It is a maxim of Law that there can be no crime without a criminal intent; that is, without the intent to invade the person or property of another. But no one ever practices a vice with any such criminal intent. He practices his vice for his own happiness solely, and not from any malice towards others.

Unless this clear distinction between vices and crimes be made and recognized by the laws, there can be no such thing as individual right, liberty, or property, and the corresponding and coequal rights of another man to the control of his own person and property.

For a 'Government' to declare a vice a crime, and to punish it as such, is an attempt to falsify the very nature of things. It is absured as it would be to declare truth to be falsehood, or falsehood truth."



- Lysander Spooner, Vices are not crimes: A vindication of moral liberty, 1875

Serpo
23rd January 2014, 01:20 PM
says he relishes getting in on the ground floor of a burgeoning industry he was once sworn to annihilate

Dogman
23rd January 2014, 01:33 PM
The door/gate is now ajar, Popular feeling for is and will increase. Those on the ground floor when the barriers that the other states have come down can and will make major bucks. Yes it can be homegrown but there will be a large majority that will not want to hassle with investing the time and money to grow a quality bud. Better let others do it and just light up and enjoy and pay for the sweat of others. As said above , yes it is legal to brew one's own beer, but not many do it for their own consumption because they have better things they want to do with their time.

The large corporations will jump on the bandwagon in a nanosecond, but it will take time and with this thing as it expands and it will will, at first allow even mom and dad business/enterprising people to make major bucks.

For the states/gov there is a huge chunk of change potential to be made and would be on the peoples side/majority that want to see pot legal everywhere in the states..

It will be all about the money to be made and maybe finally making something legal that should never have been made illegal in the first place.

Ponce
23rd January 2014, 01:45 PM
Marijuana will be the "excuse" and not the reason to invade certain places........maybe they have guns?.

V