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Silver Rocket Bitches!
23rd January 2014, 07:26 PM
I've tried to print out as much as I can as I discover things I deem as critical knowledge that I would be lost about if I lost the Internet tomorrow. I don't print as much as I should, but this one is essential. Print this one and keep it safe.

http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924080109832#page/n151/mode/2up

Dogman
23rd January 2014, 07:36 PM
Bunch of archives of very good pdf's out there. Highly recommend to be downloaded and burned to disk, or printed (tho several hundreds of reams of paper to do so if not more than that. We had a good start of a library here, but when the forum changed and went to vbullitan it was lost and the links to it became dead and since John never connected them, I deleted the dead links.

Poof!

But there was concern at the time about copyright and in truth it was dam hard to figure if what was in our library was legal or not.

I do not blame John/Mark for eliminating a possible risk to this forum and himself. Violations are a huge bitch and cost..

Truth John/M

Edit: The owner here ultimately is responsible for what is on this forum not so much for what is posted, but for what is considered a part permanent of the forum as in a library.


Years later this is what I think happened..

And looking back, maybe for the best.

Xforumlibrarian.

;)

Edit: Can burn and send what archives , some are idiotic and a bunch of maybe useful info.

but as with the forum, I do not want to violate any copyright laws..

So do not ask, At the time said burn or copy it, now the crack down in going on..

Glass
23rd January 2014, 08:13 PM
This is the PDF link I used.
https://ia700409.us.archive.org/25/items/cu31924080109832/cu31924080109832.pdf

I got kind of lost trying to see how to grab it. In case someone else gets lost like me.

Cebu_4_2
23rd January 2014, 09:51 PM
Thanks for the link, only 307 pages, easy enough to print and hand off to someone who cares.

Dogman
23rd January 2014, 10:22 PM
Easy maybe for you, you make your living printing if I remember, but there was one good or very good set of pff books that I had the full set. and posted to the library here but what I did not realize that some of the books were and were still in copyright.


I need to look into my permint burned to disk, stuff to find the titles.

Still hold to If you find something on the net that you think will help, hell yes down load the pdf or in what ever format.

But when you do , burn it to disk, burn burn burn.

Print? good also, do both and have the space the best way to do it.

memory is flaky, on the titles but on the tip of my thoughts. soon I will remember.

not much I do forget over the years.

Glass
24th January 2014, 04:22 AM
Optical disks CD/DVD will also degrade over time as the surface coatings break down. From memory they have a shelf life of about 4 years at which point you want to burn them to new media. Proper storage can reduce oxidation of the disk but that's not the only thing going to degrade them. So, like paper, film and tape before them, optical disks degrade as well.

better than leaving it all on hard drive though.

Santa
24th January 2014, 07:28 AM
Interesting.
Practically speaking the Internet is only about twenty years old,... yet at the thought of losing it we get the feeling that the modern world would fall back 1500 years into an apocalyptic dark age.

Silver Rocket Bitches!
24th January 2014, 11:54 AM
Here's an Amazon link if you prefer a bind:

http://www.amazon.com/Handy-Farm-Devices-Make-Them/dp/1602391033

steyr_m
24th January 2014, 12:28 PM
Optical disks CD/DVD will also degrade over time as the surface coatings break down. From memory they have a shelf life of about 4 years at which point you want to burn them to new media. Proper storage can reduce oxidation of the disk but that's not the only thing going to degrade them. So, like paper, film and tape before them, optical disks degrade as well.

better than leaving it all on hard drive though.

But optical is not effected by EMP/CME. yeah, your machine my go kaput, but sooner or later some that weren't damaged will pop up

mick silver
24th January 2014, 01:25 PM
alot of the info can be used now . alot of the stuff that you can make cost very little . when the big city has a junk day i go there and load up on the stuff people no longer want are need , sometime i get alot of steel and wood

Glass
24th January 2014, 02:47 PM
yes this stuff is gold. I'm watching a YT on how to make a shaving horse. Page 12 in the book. they are not full shows, but teasers to buy. Still the techiques this guy is using are pretty old school. Splitting logs into planks by hand. I've never seen methods like those before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGRFmKyB6QY