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Cebu_4_2
24th January 2014, 04:09 AM
Proposed new rules in Illinois would require residents to trade in their guns in order to get medical pot


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Several states nationwide have instituted various “gun buyback” programs for everything from grocery store gift cards to straight up cash. Illinois has come up with a bit more crafty of a buyback incentive, however: medical marijuana.

According to The Chicago Tribune (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-medical-marijuana-rules-met-20140122,0,1530419.story), a new state proposal would require residents who want to qualify to obtain medical marijuana in the state would need to be fingerprinted for a background check, pay $150 a year, and give up their right to own a firearm. Adults who have any of 41 specified medical conditions, including cancer and AIDS, would be eligible to apply for a “patient registry identification card” to purchase as much as 2.5 ounces of marijuana every two weeks (or more, as certified by the prescribing physician).

The proposed rules (http://www2.illinois.gov/gov/mcpp/Documents/DPH%20medical%20cannabis_DRAFT%20proposed%20rule%2 001%2021%2014.pdf) are the first in a set of guidelines expected to be outlined by the Illinois Department of Public Health throughout 2014. The department plans on taking public comment about the new rules next month, and hopes to submit them to a legislative panel for approval by the end of April.

Another one of the proposed rules includes preventing qualifying patients or caregivers from possessing a firearm, even if they have a valid state firearm owner’s ID card or concealed carry permit.

Todd Vandermyde, a lobbyist for the pro-Second Amendment National Rifle Association, told the Tribune that the organization doesn’t have a position on the issue but that the rule seems to be an attempt to interpret federal law.
“It presents a novel legal conundrum,” he said. “The courts are going to have to reconcile it.”

Illinois is the most recent state in the union to both legalize marijuana use for medicinal purposes and legalize concealed carry (http://redalertpolitics.com/2013/07/09/illinois-legislature-overrides-quinns-amendatory-veto-on-concealed-carry/). According to The Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/22/illinois-medical-marijuana-rules_n_4645188.html?utm_hp_ref=chicago), medical marijuana use in Illinois became legal on Jan 1., with the state’s laws being among the strictest in the nation.

h/t Washington Free Beacon (http://freebeacon.com/illinois-wants-patients-to-trade-gun-rights-for-weed/)

By Katie LaPotin (http://redalertpolitics.com/author/klapotin/) /// January 23, 2014

Glass
24th January 2014, 04:15 AM
ah ok. So medical marijuana is for treatment of mental illness only?

Vandermyde seems to have a wishy washy stance on the issue. I'd be questioning that if he were my political lobbyist.

EE_
24th January 2014, 05:59 AM
What a great idea! I wonder if the other states have considered taking guns from legal pot users?

Anyone that signs/registers to purchase marijuana is going to have to give up their right to purchase/own firearms and lose their conceal carry permits...by federal law.

This is going to get interesting.

BOHICA!

1. Alaska 1998 Ballot Measure 8 (58%) $25/$20 1 oz usable; 6 plants (3 mature, 3 immature) unknown1
2. Arizona 2010 Proposition 203 (50.13%) $150/$75 2.5 oz usable; 0-12 plants2 Yes3
3. California 1996 Proposition 215 (56%) $66/$33 8 oz usable; 6 mature or 12 immature plants4 No
4. Colorado 2000 Ballot Amendment 20 (54%) $35 2 oz usable; 6 plants (3 mature, 3 immature) No
5. Connecticut 2012 House Bill 5389 (96-51 House, 21-13 Senate) TBD* One-month supply (exact amount to be determined) No
6. DC 2010 Amendment Act B18-622 (13-0 vote) $100/$25 2 oz dried; limits on other forms to be determined No
7. Delaware 2011 Senate Bill 17 (27-14 House, 17-4 Senate) $125 6 oz usable Yes5
8. Hawaii 2000 Senate Bill 862 (32-18 House; 13-12 Senate) $25 3 oz usable; 7 plants (3 mature, 4 immature) No
9. Illinois 2013 House Bill 1 (61-57 House; 35-21 Senate) TBD* 2.5 ounces of usable cannabis during a period of 14 days No
10. Maine 1999 Ballot Question 2 (61%) No fee 2.5 oz usable; 6 plants Yes6
11. Massachusetts 2012 Ballot Question 3 (63%) TBD7 Sixty day supply for personal medical use unknown
12. Michigan 2008 Proposal 1 (63%) $100/$25 2.5 oz usable; 12 plants Yes
13. Montana 2004 Initiative 148 (62%) $25/$10 1 oz usable; 4 plants (mature); 12 seedlings No
14. Nevada 2000 Ballot Question 9 (65%) $2008 1 oz usable; 7 plants (3 mature, 4 immature) Yes9
15. New
Hampshire 2013 House Bill 573 (284-66 House; 18-6 Senate) TBD* Two ounces of usable cannabis during a 10-day period Yes
16. New Jersey 2010 Senate Bill 119 (48-14 House; 25-13 Senate) $200/$20 2 oz usable No
17. New Mexico 2007 Senate Bill 523 (36-31 House; 32-3 Senate) $0 6 oz usable; 16 plants (4 mature, 12 immature) No
18. Oregon 1998 Ballot Measure 67 (55%) $200/$10010 24 oz usable; 24 plants (6 mature, 18 immature) No
19. Rhode Island 2006 Senate Bill 0710 (52-10 House; 33-1 Senate) $75/$10 2.5 oz usable; 12 plants Yes
20. Vermont 2004 Senate Bill 76 (22-7) HB 645 (82-59) $50 2 oz usable; 9 plants (2 mature, 7 immature) No
21. Washington 1998 Initiative 692 (59%) ** 24 oz usable; 15 plants No

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chad
24th January 2014, 06:02 AM
pot purchasing is for sure going to get you on the no gun list. what most people don't realize though, is that the healthcare changes are going to get you on the no gun list as well. NEVER go in for counseling, depression, an ambien script, etc. al of that stuff is going to show up in a national database sooner or later and everyone on that list is going to be a no-go sooner or later.

EE_
24th January 2014, 06:05 AM
pot purchasing is for sure going to get you on the no gun list. what most people don't realize though, is that the healthcare changes are going to get you on the no gun list as well. NEVER go in for counseling, depression, an ambien script, etc. al of that stuff is going to show up in a national database sooner or later and everyone on that list is going to be a no-go sooner or later.

Even if you quit purchasing pot, you will not get your right to own back.

mick silver
24th January 2014, 07:02 AM
so getting drunk not on the turn in gun list . what a screw up country we all live in . get drunk drive kill someone serve no time , get drunk shot up the bar serve no time and keep your gun . so how it feel to be free because i dont know what it feel like

EE_
24th January 2014, 07:29 AM
so getting drunk not of the turn in gun list . what a screw up country we all live in . get drunk drive kill someone serve no time , get drunk shot up the bar serve no time and keep your gun . so how it feel to be free because i dont know what it feel like

Remember who controls the liquer industry...
They don't control the pot industry...yet!

“The Jews are masters of the whisky trade in the United States. Eighty per cent of the members of the National Liquor Dealers’ Association are Jews. It has been shown that 60 per cent of the business of distilling and wholesale trade in whisky is in the hands of the Jews. As middlemen they control the wine product of California. Jews visit the tobacco-growing States and buy up nearly all the leaf tobacco, so that the great tobacco companies have to buy the raw product from them. The Jews have a grip on the cigar trade. The American Tobacco Company manufactures about 15 per cent of the cigars smoked in the United States. The Jews provide the rest.”

Read more here: http://www.jrbooksonline.com/Intl_Jew_full_version/ij62.htm

madfranks
24th January 2014, 08:02 AM
need to be fingerprinted for a background check, pay $150 a year, and give up their right to own a firearm

Imagine, if at the end of alcohol prohibition, they made similar requirements for being able to once again purchase alcohol legally. Pair it with the excessive taxes and controls on the industry and the result is that the primary market would have remained underground. And the same thing is going to happen with cannabis. They simply will not let it resemble even close to a free market. It makes me angry, these politicians simply will not allow people to be free, they have to control every single effing thing they lay their eyes on, and if they can't control it, they'll ruin it for everyone else.

iOWNme
24th January 2014, 08:43 AM
Is there even 1 single documented case where an individual smoked ONLY cannabis and then went on a gun shooting spree?

Shit! My bad......I gotta stop using logic, reason and evidence when dealing with a Religious belief system.

mick silver
24th January 2014, 08:45 AM
sui what wrong with you . thinking outside of the box there .;)

EE_
24th January 2014, 09:01 AM
Alcohol is the real gateway drug. Everyone I know that smokes pot, tried alcohol first.
Alcohol leads heroin use...and makes ugly chicks look good.
No one ever woke up with someone ugly on pot, that didn't know they were ugly before they went to bed.

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Twisted Titan
24th January 2014, 09:25 AM
Even if you quit purchasing pot, you will not get your right to own back.


Ding! Ding! Ding!

A classic example of why its important not only to see what they say but what they DONT say.

Spectrism
24th January 2014, 10:29 AM
You haven't seen the 2015 Obamacare rules yet.