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Ponce
27th January 2014, 09:40 AM
I am so proud that someone did paid attention to my "preaching", Yesterday I was the one that posted about Land Patent and Sherrie took action RIGHT AWAY.
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Sunday, January 26, 2014


LAND PATENTS! Claim your Sovereign Rights to your Land! Can NEVER be Taken From you by the Government or Any Bank! This is TRUTH and this is IMPORTANT! EVERYONE NEEDS TO DO THIS - IT IS REAL!

I am so thankful for a comment on my article about retirement plans being put into U.S. government bonds.
The comment was about a 'Land Patent'. I had never heard of that, so I researched it.

WOW! What I found out is amazing and proves how our government began committing fraud against us in the early 1900s. They obviously began taking away our Freedoms and Sovereign rights on purpose to be where we are at now.

But, when we ALL educate ourselves and each other about what our Rights our and the TRUTH is - WE WILL WIN!

This is one of the most important articles of information I have ever written. This is about our claiming our Sovereign rights as given to us from our Forefathers and there is nothing the government can do to take it away ONCE we CLAIM it!

Every Single person that owns property/land/house needs to do this! IT IS OUR RIGHT!

Once we all claim our Land Patent our property can NEVER be taken from us via foreclosure or non-payment of taxes! It can NEVER be taken from us via Eminent domain either!

I have the full information on this video! Please Pass it Along to everyone you know that owns Property! We ALL NEED TO STAND FOR OUR RIGHTS AS GIVEN TO US BY OUR FOREFATHERS!

Once you claim a Land Patent on your property you never need permission from the government to do anything on it either, as in permits, etc. Subdivision by-laws do not apply to your property either!

The links that are in the video are here:

http://www.narlo.org/landpatent.html

http://www.freedomforallseasons.org/AllodialLandPatentReports/Truth%20-%20What%20Is%20A%20Land%20Patent%20-%20Allodial%20Titles.htm

http://www.teamlaw.org/LandPatents.htm

I will be speaking with a lawyer tomorrow about this and I will do a follow up on what he says!

Right now our deeds are by the Feudal system instead of the Land Patent (Allodial), which is how they originally were deeded (the info is in the video) which then allows the government to take your land via all means at their disposal. But once a land patent is claimed by you, the government can Not come on your property either, from my understanding.

The Supreme Court has upheld Land Patent suits!

Remember Obama signed an 'Executive Order for the Economic Continuity of Government' which allows the government to take whatever land or property they want and feel is needed for themselves or even to give a private entity (bank, corporation, another government, etc). By claiming your Land Patent they can not do this against your property.

This is TRUTH to Pass on to everyone!

Video explaining it in detail, links of information in the video are above.

sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com

chad
27th January 2014, 09:49 AM
i would like somebody in a really nice sub-division to get a land patent, and then start raising hogs and cows in the front yard. it would be interesting to see what happens.

Hatha Sunahara
27th January 2014, 10:43 AM
Here's the link to the Sherrie Questions All post referred to in the OP:

http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/2014/01/one-of-most-important-articles-i-have.html


Hatha

Ares
27th January 2014, 11:10 AM
i would like somebody in a really nice sub-division to get a land patent, and then start raising hogs and cows in the front yard. it would be interesting to see what happens.

I tried that... I couldn't do it. Reason being is that a subdivision is bonded as 1 parcel of land for development(usually by the developer / builder but not always) and then is "subdivided" among individuals who want to live on the developed land. A Home Owners Association gets established to protect THE BOND HOLDER(s) while they are still collecting interest from the money the developer / builder borrowed to develop the land. They are usually floated on a 20 year bond, and funny enough HOA's have a 20 year charter.

I dug into it, because I was going to do EXACTLY what chad recommended doing. I was going to put up a chicken coup, as well as nice tall fence. But through my research I discovered I did not own my land, and nor would it get released without the bond being paid in full.

palani
27th January 2014, 01:12 PM
I discovered I did not own my land

You aren't levant et couchant?

By the way if you ever change your name this is a good one .. Lev E. Couchant

govcheetos
27th January 2014, 02:38 PM
I did not own my land, and nor would it get released without the bond being paid in full.

How much was the bond? Could you have paid the portion for your lot off in full?

Ares
27th January 2014, 02:54 PM
How much was the bond? Could you have paid the portion for your lot off in full?

According to the County records, the bond that was floated to develop that land was 1.5 million dollars at 2% interests. The bond recouped most (like 85%) of the initial cost through home sales. The rest was to be repaid plus interest for the next 18 years from the HOA fee's. From my understanding the entire bond with interest needed to be paid in full before the HOA could even be dissolved. With a HOA in place, you still have another entity who has execution rights over the land. HOA's operate (at least to me on the surface) as a trust among individuals to retain property value. In reality they are used as insurance to make sure that the bond holders get their money. If property value's decline, the bond holders are in possession of depreciating property.

So unfortunately no, I couldn't of paid off my portion as the entire bond with intended interest was still owed for the next 18 years. After that the HOA would of had a meeting and could either decide to disband the HOA, or keep it.

ArgenteumTelum
27th January 2014, 04:39 PM
When our dear Ponce first started his land patent adventure, I started long research about obtaining the same. I live in one of the original 13 colonies. Eventually, I pored over what seemed like a zillion warrants and deeds affecting my property. Fortune led me to a very helpful person at the state archives. He relayed an amazing story he was personally involved with. In short, if you live east of the Mississippi you are SOL, especially if in one of the original 13 colonies. Here's what he relayed: Someone bought a decent sized acreage in this particular state from a seller. Paid close to 2 million. The new owner wanted to obtain a land patent, did the research and to his absolute amazement discovered that that particular tract had never gone through the warrant-survey-patent process. Back in the day (late 1700's-early 1800's) the state owned everything originally. A prospective buyer obtained a warrant, the land was surveyed, the patent issued when the buyer paid THE STATE. Now, back to the 2 million dollar man. He went through the process AND PAID THE STATE ANOTHER 2 MILL have a warrant, survey and finally a patent issued. The person at the archives office is still blown away that a parcel of land had not been patented to anyone in OVER 200 YEARS.

AT

Ares
27th January 2014, 05:32 PM
When our dear Ponce first started his land patent adventure, I started long research about obtaining the same. I live in one of the original 13 colonies. Eventually, I pored over what seemed like a zillion warrants and deeds affecting my property. Fortune led me to a very helpful person at the state archives. He relayed an amazing story he was personally involved with. In short, if you live east of the Mississippi you are SOL, especially if in one of the original 13 colonies. Here's what he relayed: Someone bought a decent sized acreage in this particular state from a seller. Paid close to 2 million. The new owner wanted to obtain a land patent, did the research and to his absolute amazement discovered that that particular tract had never gone through the warrant-survey-patent process. Back in the day (late 1700's-early 1800's) the state owned everything originally. A prospective buyer obtained a warrant, the land was surveyed, the patent issued when the buyer paid THE STATE. Now, back to the 2 million dollar man. He went through the process AND PAID THE STATE ANOTHER 2 MILL have a warrant, survey and finally a patent issued. The person at the archives office is still blown away that a parcel of land had not been patented to anyone in OVER 200 YEARS.

AT

I lived in Indiana at the time, and would explain why I was having a hard time even locating a single person or record of a land patent. I've since moved and I am located in one of the original 13 colonies. So if I purchase land here, I'm screwed.... :-/

monty
27th January 2014, 05:47 PM
Nevada issued Land Patents on state owned Lands. I read while researching Land Patents that the Land in the original 13 colonies were patented by the state because the States owned the Land after the Revolutionary War. And the State of Texas also issued Land Patents because Texas was an Independent Republic when It joined the unión and the Land belonged to Texas. The. Land in the States that were created from territories was patented by the US government because The Land was held in trust by the Federal Government. The General Land Office issued Land Patents until It was absorbed by the Bureau of Land Management. Original y Land Patents wer signed by the President. My brother received a Land Patent from the US gov in the 1970's. It was signed by the Secretary of the Interior. Notice that the feds held the title in trust for Indians for 20 years after the patent was issued. I have the original Nevada Land Patents issued to my father and my grandfather. 5986 5987 5988 Sent from my iPad using Forum Runner

palani
27th January 2014, 06:42 PM
The person at the archives office is still blown away that a parcel of land had not been patented to anyone in OVER 200 YEARS.
You make this sound like something that is bad. Actually quite a lot (read that as 'all' for all practical purposes and intents) land in the original colonies was GRANTED. For example, Pennsylvania was a grant from the crown to William Penn. Many of these grants were not nearly so large. These grants are conveyances. They convey land. Many times there were conditions annexed to these grants. These conditions do not expire. A hundred men might hold on to the land (or portions of the land) and the same conditions may be cited as the ONLY conditions required to hold on to that land. All you have to do is track your portion of the land to the original grant and start obeying the conditions required for your portion.

David Wilbur Johnson is an expert in this field. Lots of information here
http://freedom-school.com/private-property-rights.html

Ponce
27th January 2014, 07:07 PM
Palani? I was in contact with them for a long time till I finally realize that all that they wanted was to sell you a deal for $500.00...Once you had a Land Patent they were no longer interested in dealing with you.....while I won't denied that they are smart the selling point was the main deal
By the way, my land had 23 owners before me and with some of them owning the land twice.

V

ArgenteumTelum
27th January 2014, 07:11 PM
Palani,

I'm sorry you interpreted my use of language in that manner, which was not at all my intent. Maybe a better description would be to say that this was a extremely unusual situation, one never encountered by the archive official with a long service record in that capacity. Hopefully, this will clear any misunderstanding. I will read your reference material…thanks.

palani
27th January 2014, 07:22 PM
Palani? I was in contact with them for a long time till I finally realize that all that they wanted was to sell you a deal for $500.00

Yes. This is the case with many PAYtriots. Where the land patent exists you may make your own abstract to make sure that there is no 'event' that interrupts the chain of title from the original patent to you. Actually it is quite interesting to do this research at the recorders office (in Iowa ... probably other offices involved in other states). The ONLY event that you really need to be concerned with is the tax lien sale. If one happened anywhere then you can only have color of title because you don't have access through the land patent. This comes about because you cannot be an heir or assign when the state decides their security interest takes precedence. You got what they have the ability to give you ... nothing more than a quit claim.

palani
27th January 2014, 07:28 PM
this was a extremely unusual situation, one never encountered by the archive official with a long service record in that capacity.
Relying on any cleric for information about law is not good. If they don't intentionally mislead you then they are going to mislead you through their ignorance. Either reason takes you where you don't want to go.... the land of the ignorant and misinformed .... and leaves them where they would rather be.... in charge.