Question on the Propur gravity water filter

[Hitch]

I set up my new propur water filter yesterday. After filtering all night, I'm impressed. The water tastes great. It's the new one with the ceramic filter with silver in it.

My question is that this system does not filter out viruses. I did some research online last night, but couldn't find an answer to my question. What's the best way to kill any viruses in the water before putting it in the filter? I was thinking of adding bleach to the water to be sure.

[Neuro]

Don't worry about it!

[Hitch]

Don't worry about it!

Cheers my friend, you are right I shouldn't worry about it. I'm filtering my tank water, which gets filled from the dock. I didn't drink that water before so it's nice to be able to now.

They don't let us purchase the berkey here, so I went with the propur.

[midnight rambler]

What's the best way to kill any viruses in the water before putting it in the filter?

Go to feebay, do a search for MSR MIOX - that will take out any viruses.

Filters don't eliminate viruses, only purifiers do that.

[palani]

They don't let us purchase the berkey here, so I went with the propur.

Same in Iowa ... but I didn't let that stop me. Seems when commerce is on the line rules are meant to be broken.

[palani]

Filters don't eliminate viruses

Wonder how many viruses are encountered in water. Filters do a great job eliminating parasites. I have not heard of too many viruses occupying water. If the virus is in the parasite and you filter out the parasite then no virus passes either.

The Berkey will filter dye from water.

[Hitch]

Wonder how many viruses are encountered in water. Filters do a great job eliminating parasites. I have not heard of too many viruses occupying water. If the virus is in the parasite and you filter out the parasite then no virus passes either.

The Berkey will filter dye from water.

I really don't know. I think for normal use, viruses wouldn't/shouldn't be an issue...but, for SHTF. Taking water from a very questionable source, the fact that viruses can pass through this filter makes me wonder.

Perhaps I'm thinking too much.

This propur system I really like filtering the garbage water fed to us by our corrupt system meant to damage our health. But, for survival purposes. I really don't know. I will do more research. I do have my solar water distillers ready to deploy. Water is a big concern of mine. I still want to build some fog nets.

Thanks for the responses, folks.

[Hitch]

OK, the water filtered from the propur system is delicious. By far, the best tasting water I have had in quite some time.

No more bottled water for me. This filter system kicks ass.

[mick silver]

if your filter is working right there should be no taste to the water nor smell

[mick silver]

i hope it ok to post this here .... West Virginia Chemical Spill and Berkey Removal


Posted on January 10, 2014
The chemical 4-methylcyclohexane methanol that was leaked in West Virginia is an organic chemical. This is a relatively unknown chemical that is not on the EPA’s organic chemical list to test for and for this reason we have not specifically tested this organic chemical compound. Therefore, we are unable to positively state that the Berkey system will remove 4-methylcyclohexane methanol.

What we do know is that the EPA organic compounds that Berkey has tested for show the lowest removal rate was 86% removal, and that the majority tested greater than 99% removal. However, we reiterate that without specific testing we cannot make any claim of removal of 4-methylcyclohexane methanol. We can only state that the data suggests that the black berkey filters would likely be very efficient at removing the chemical, given that it is an organic chemical/compound.

The manufacturer of Berkey ALWAYS recommends that you use the cleanest source of water available for filtering; however we understand that during emergencies a clean source of water may not be available.

Summary of Accident (https://www.spectrumchemical.com/MSDS/TCI-M1412.pdf)
Chemical that was leaked (https://www.spectrumchemical.com/MSDS/TCI-M1412.pdf)
Compound Summary (http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/summary/summary.cgi?cid=7507#itabs-3d)
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[Hitch]

i hope it ok to post this here ....

Good article, thanks mick. The water out of this filter is very pure, no taste or smell, so that's what I meant by it tasting great. It's good refreshing water.

I should post one issue I had with this, to anyone thinking of buying a propur. I wasted several hours of my time on it, when propur could have included a simple solution.

The system I bought only had one filter, which is fine for just me, but the top container had two holes....for two filters, if needed. They didn't include a plug for the second hole. The one filter took one hole, so I had to plug the second one.

At first I thought no big deal, should be an easy fix. Boy was I wrong. Nobody sells tapered rubber plugs. Nothing I tried could plug this damn hole and keep it from leaking. I tried whittling down wood bungs. Leaked. I had a rubber valve type plug that expanded, leaked. I spent hours dicking around before using some pipe thread compound to seal it finally.

So, heads up. If you buy one of these, and it only has one filter. Call them and have them send you a plug to seal the second hole in the container.

[mick silver]

we have the big berkey with the ceramic filters and i have added the fluoride and arsenic filters and it works great . we have had people over and ask what was that i told them it clean the water we drink and use to cook with . most ask why in the hell do you need to do all of this all i have to do is pour them a glass of water and ask what do you taste and smell and they say nothing then i say it working and they know why then . most of are water well water but i want what we use to be as safe as it can be . here a great place to buy water filter stuff from .... http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/berkey-water-filters/berkey-filter-replacements.html

[mick silver]

(PF-4) FLUORIDE AND ARSENIC WATER FILTER
PF-4 reduction elements, are designed to adsorb the following four unwanted elements most commonly found in drinking water.
- MTBE (Methyl-tertiary-butyl-ether)
- Fluoride (http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/blog/berkey/the-dangers-of-fluoride-the-great-debate/)
- Lead (http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/blog/lead/lead-in-our-drinking-water/)
- Arsenic (http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/blog/arsenic/arsenic-in-your-well-water/)
PF-4 filters are also designed to adsorb:
- DBCP (Dibromo-chloro-propane)
- THMs (trihalomethanes)
- Herbicides & Pesticides
- Heavy Metal ions
Note: The PF-4 shell is made from safe, non-leaching Polypropylene #5, that is BPA-Free and is used for food items such as ketchup bottles and yogurt containers. For use with White Super Sterasyl Ceramic Filtration Elements ONLY. For Black Berkey Elements, you must use the PF-2's. Sold in Set of Four. Installed in lower chamber.
INSTALLATION:Assemble the water filter as per the water filter assembly instruction. On the underside of the upper chamber locate the stem of each ceramic filter (do not remove the wing nut holding the ceramic filter in place). With clean hands, remove blue caps and screw a PF-4 filter onto each filter stem (the blue arrow should point away from upper chamber) giving five full revolutions. Do not screw more than five revolutions as this may damage the internal media screen. When complete, seat upper chamber on top of the lower chamber. Fill upper reservoir. When the lower reservoir is full, discard the first batch of water, which may contain process dust. (Note: when lower chamber is full of water, the PF-4 filters will be immersed).
TECHNICAL INFORMATION:MTBE: The PF-4 is manufactured to exceed ANSI/NSF Standard 53 which requires that MTBE be reduced by at least two thirds from an influent rate (water going in) of 15ppb to an effluent rate (water going out) of less than 5ppb (> 95% reduction*). LEAD: Tests have shown that when 2000 gallon (7,600 liters) of influent water at a concentration of lead of 150-200 ppb pass through 200 grams of media at a flow rate of 1 gpm (3.8 lpm), the lead level was reduced to less than 1ppb (>99% reduction). FLUORIDE: Testing for fluoride was based on 20-30ppm of the ion in the influent aqueous solution at a flow rate of no more than 3 gpm (11 lpm) per cubic foot of media. Results of < 1ppm of the fluoride ion in the effluent were typical for the media (>95% reduction). Under optimum conditions, effluent concentrations of less than 50 ppb were readily achieved (>99.75% reduction).
REPLACEMENT:Under normal conditions it is recommended that PF-4 elements be replaced at six-month intervals (Actual capacity is dependent on the presence of other competing contaminants in the source water. High levels of total organic carbons, volatile organic compounds or certain inorganic minerals may reduce the capacity and efficiency of these elements.)*. Note: do not boil this element.
MTBE (Methyl-tertiary-butyl-ether) is the most common oxygenated fuel additive used in reformulated gasoline. Contamination of groundwater with MTBE is a rapidly growing problem in 49 U.S. states. In drinking water, even trace amounts of MTBE can cause taste and odor problems, which may lead to nausea and dizziness. The potential long-term health effects of MTBE are not understood at this time, however, initial studies indicate MTBE may cause kidney and liver problems. MTBE removal from water is a challenge because it is very soluble in water and must compete with other organics for binding sites on the filter medium. These other contaminants (BTEX - and TOC - total organic carbons) are adsorbed more readily, and MTBE often slips by standard carbon filters, ending up in the filtered water. The PF-4 filter has been specifically designed to remove MTBE from drinking water when used in conjunction with Super Sterasyl ceramic filtration elements. The media within the Super Sterasyl filters, in the upper chamber, capture the more strongly adsorbed BTEX and TOC's. This permits the downstream PF-4, secured as a post filter, to more efficiently remove MTBE.


Length: 6 in.
Width: 2.5 in.
WHITE
SET OF FOUR

For more information on the topic of fluoride, read our article: The Dangers of Fluoride, the Great Debate (http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/blog/berkey/the-dangers-of-fluoride-the-great-debate/)
More Details on Fluoride/Arsenic Filter Testing and Media Specifications (http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/studies/fluoride-arsenic-testing)
Berkey WarrantyThe manufacturer warrants this product to be free from defects in materials and workmanship for a period of 6 months from date of purchase. The manufacturer will replace or repair any product that it deems is not properly functioning during the stated warranty period.
BigBerkeyWaterFilters is always at your service to assist you (http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/contacts) with any warranty claims, send you replacement hardware free of charge if needed, or provide system maintenance support during the life of ownership. ... http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/pf-4-fluoride-and-arsenic-filters-4.html

[mick silver]

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Manufactured from BPA Free, Natural High Density Polypropylene
Lightweight, portable, durable and virtually indestructible
Accommodates up to 5 ceramic candle filter elements
Holes that are not in use are filled with removeable rubber plugs
7 gallon total storage (3.5 upper and 3.5 lower)
Filters can be cleaned up to 100 times
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