If Idaho is such a wonderful place???

[midnight rambler]

Then why does shit like this keep happening there?? ???

Idaho SO deputies aka JBTs with an attitude conduct warrantless search on someone's abode, assault household member BEFORE IDing themselves (I'm shocked this dickhead didn't shoot the dog) -


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w6G-yXvkKA

[Shami-Amourae]

Demographic-wise, it is a better place. Police State....umm that shit is everywhere unfortunately.
:(

Any comments Jewboo?


On a personal note, all the cops I did deal with so far have been a lot friendlier than in California. To me everything is better than California.

[mick silver]

Take a look at a generic historical example of the pattern of
tyranny. A rouge thug gathers together a band of men to extort
money from the people nearby where he lives. In his success, he
plunders massive amounts of money and grows his gang into an
army. He successfully kills the previous officers of law and
enforcement, or subverts them through stealth. Knowing that he
can plunder more value in the long term if he leaves his victims
alive, he implements a “tax” upon everyone in his range of
influence. He draws borders, he gives decrees. Importantly, he
promises his victims that he will protect them from all other
thugs. His victims slowly become accustomed to his will, and
his lies. The people become afraid if they hear their neighbors
talk of escaping the taxes and cruelty. Soon they actively support
the regime by targeting all 'treasonous' speech, and turning in
deviants to police. Originally called criminal, the thug is now
called authority. He is called law and order.
This example could have easily described any gang of
barbarians from the middle ages, or from ancient history. It
could apply to any king or emperor of years past. It could have
described any warlord of today, or any mafia. In fact, it closely
resembles every authority that has ever been established.
Once people are conditioned to accept the notion of authority,
they normally obey without thinking. The object of law is
24 The End of All Evilobedience, and the destruction of freedom is found in the
blindness of this obedience. The authority principle shows that
even when a person would normally believe an action to be
wrong, if ordered by an authority, they will still perform it.
The establishment and exercise of authority over people is
called the pattern of tyranny.

[palani]

Let 's discuss a remedy for rogue police. Opt out of property tax. There are ways to do this. But then if you pay no property tax you can receive no benefit from the municipality/county/state. Ok ... why not privately contract for these services ... road grading, fire protection , police protection, water, sewer, et al.

This is by way of saying 'Be Responsible .. Pay For What You Use'.

But now any interaction with the police on your own property is through private contract. They breach the contract there is likely to be penalties. This does not give you a free pass if you perform an anti-social act off your own property. You deal with the public in this circumstance but on your own property ... outcome is likely going to be different.

We have seen examples of this private contracting method with firemen. Should you opt out of paying them (donation) likely you are on a list of properties they will not respond to should a fire break out.

[Notice I did not include EDUCATION as one of the services to be contracted with ... why pay for programming your own kids?]

[Shami-Amourae]

Police in general are Evil mother fucking demons:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDNm1HOldmo

[Hillbilly]

Idaho aint so great anymore. It's full of Mexi's in places like Nampa.

[Hitch]

We have seen examples of this private contracting method with firemen. Should you opt out of paying them (donation) likely you are on a list of properties they will not respond to should a fire break out.

That was a long time ago. Not too many folks know that actually, I'm impressed. That happened mostly in the big cities, most notably New York. If you donated to the fire dept. You got a placard to hang in front of your home. If there was a fire, and you had that placard, the dept would extinguish the fire.

If there was a fire, and you didn't have that placard....not only would your house burn. The fire dept would loot it afterwards. Not too many folks know that shady history of the fire service.

I've looked online for those old placards, would think it would be a neat piece of history to have. Haven't found one yet though.

[Jewboo]

:(

Any comments Jewboo? On a personal note, all the cops I did deal with so far have been a lot friendlier than in California. To me everything is better than California.




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I abandoned California in 1980 and moved to Boise, Idaho. Back then it really was like Mayberry. Never have had any problem with the police...I still wave at them when they drive by my block.



Let's remember that since 1980 it has tripled in size but even still, way nicer than any other place. Let's also remember that the Homeland Security mindset is now everywhere:


http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2013/10/07/20/17/wCJgI.AuSt.36.JPG
Boise, Nampa police acquire military-grade vehicles (http://www.idahostatesman.com/2013/10/08/2803964/local-police-acquire-military.html)

:(?? I still think Idaho is the best state in the USA

[BrewTech]

Take a look at a generic historical example of the pattern of
tyranny. A rouge thug gathers together a band of men to extort
money from the people nearby where he lives. In his success, he
plunders massive amounts of money and grows his gang into an
army. He successfully kills the previous officers of law and
enforcement, or subverts them through stealth. Knowing that he
can plunder more value in the long term if he leaves his victims
alive, he implements a “tax” upon everyone in his range of
influence. He draws borders, he gives decrees. Importantly, he
promises his victims that he will protect them from all other
thugs. His victims slowly become accustomed to his will, and
his lies. The people become afraid if they hear their neighbors
talk of escaping the taxes and cruelty. Soon they actively support
the regime by targeting all 'treasonous' speech, and turning in
deviants to police. Originally called criminal, the thug is now
called authority. He is called law and order.
This example could have easily described any gang of
barbarians from the middle ages, or from ancient history. It
could apply to any king or emperor of years past. It could have
described any warlord of today, or any mafia. In fact, it closely
resembles every authority that has ever been established.
Once people are conditioned to accept the notion of authority,
they normally obey without thinking. The object of law is
24 The End of All Evilobedience, and the destruction of freedom is found in the
blindness of this obedience. The authority principle shows that
even when a person would normally believe an action to be
wrong, if ordered by an authority, they will still perform it.
The establishment and exercise of authority over people is
called the pattern of tyranny.

When quoting someone else's work, it's good form to at least credit the quote and/or link to the original source.

[mick silver]

it been posted more the once , chill out have a beer and read it's a good .http://www.visionair.nl/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/EndofallEvil.pdf

[BrewTech]

it been posted more the once , chill out have a beer and read it's a good .http://www.visionair.nl/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/EndofallEvil.pdfJust spent a good portion of the afternoon doing just that. Highly recommend reading it. Great stuff.

[hoarder]

In Montana we hardly have any cops at all. I haven't had any trouble with them. Others tell me they're getting worse with seat belt tickets and "Gestapo tactics". Main thing is we don't have as many laws. No state inspection on vehicles ever, permanent license plates on older vehicles and trailers, 75 MPH speed limit on interstate and no state gun laws. Fish and game laws are another story, though.

[Horn]

The entire landscape stateside has become Nazified in my estimation.

[midnight rambler]

Fish and game laws are another story, though.

Yep, 'cause it's the king's fish and game.

And I wasn't singling out Idaho, the reality is that sort of nonsense can happen anywhere, you just don't have a clue if you don't know the terrain. As only one example there are counties in east Texas where one can simply vanish without any trace and one's disappearance will remain unsolved indefinitely if you get my drift. There's the good and the bad everywhere although one needs to take into account the agencies and organizations with their own agendas involved in 'training' LE. Those deputies in the OP wouldn't have videoed themselves doing this if they thought they were being out of line, someone gave them some grievous advice and that's what is apparently governing their behavior. It appears those deputies are under the impression that what they were doing was acceptable, or at least justifiable before their partner in crime the judge.

[palani]

chill out have a beer

http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/files/BuffaloTheory.jpg

[Glass]

thanks palani. I can hear Cliff's voice when I read that. Spooky.

[Hitch]

thanks palani. I can hear Cliff's voice when I read that. Spooky.

I heard Cliffy's voice too, reading that. I'm going to crack a beer.

[Olmstein]

The militarization of police forces that has happened over the last 40 years was started under the 'the war on drugs' and completed under the 'war on terror'. Very few people, besides some hardcore libertarians, ever spoke out against either of these BS wars. They were designed to take your freedom, and they worked.

Every time you, or one of your neighbors voted for a major party politician, you voted for your own enslavement.

[Horn]

The militarization of police forces that has happened over the last 40 years was started under the 'the war on drugs' and completed under the 'war on terror'.

TPTB are currently expanding these wars into every nation on the planet, even here in Costa Rica they are starting to piggyback police vehicles, and ganging foot patrols into groups of 6 or more so as to be given a second glance, when before they weren't given any more thought or notice than another taxi driver.