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mick silver
16th February 2014, 01:21 PM
Lockheed Martin Faces a Devastating Blow to Its Littoral Combat ShipBy Katie Spence (http://my.fool.com/profile/tmfkspence/info.aspx?source=iapsitlnk0000002) | More Articles (http://www.fool.com/author/1903/index.aspx?source=iapsitlnk0000003)
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Littoral Combat Ship. Photo: U.S. Navy.
Lockheed Martin (NYSE: LMT (http://caps.fool.com/Ticker/LMT.aspx?source=isssitthv0000001) (http://my.fool.com/watchlist/add?ticker=LMT&source=iwlsitbut0000010)) is no stranger to cost overruns, and extensive delays -- just look at its F-35 for more than one example. However, Lockheed's latest debacle has nothing to do with the F-35. It doesn't even concern a plane. Lockheed's latest contract catastrophe concerns the $32 billion Littoral Combat Ship, or LCS. Here's what you need to know.
Low survivability
Originally, the LCS was designed to defeat threats like submarines, swarms of small boats, and mines, as well as provide dominance in the coastal water battlespace. Unfortunately, according to a report by the Pentagon's independent Director of Operational Test and Evaluation, the "LCS is not expected to be survivable in high-intensity combat because its design requirements do not require the inclusion of survivability features necessary to conduct sustained combat operations in a major conflict as expected for the Navy's other surface combatants."
http://g.foolcdn.com/editorial/images/104062/us_navy_111017-n-zz999-001_the_littoral_combat_ship_uss_independence_lcs_ 2_transits_narragansett_bay__large.jpgLittoral Combat Ship. Photo: U.S. Navy by Cmdr. Jason Salata via Wikimedia Commons.

In other words, the LCS can provide dominance on the battlespace -- as long as it's not really challenged. Yes, you read that right: The LCS is a "combat" ship that can't survive a hostile combat situation. In addition to this blow, the LCS has faced numerous delays and major cost increases, and in its first foreign tour to Singapore, the LCSFreedom suffered a barrage of problems, including a power outage that shut down its engine. Perhaps, then, it's no wonder that acting Deputy Defense Secretary Christine Fox advised the Navy to scale back its LCS purchase from 52 to 32.
Of course, Fox is only the acting deputy defense secretary, and President Obama's formal nomination to the post is Robert Work -- who just so happens to like the LCS program.
What to watch
The current budget environment will force cuts, even to "essential" programs. And when a program is this plagued with problems, its chances of being on the chopping block go up. But that doesn't guarantee that the LCS program is doomed. The fact is, the Navy needs ships, and the LCS is supposed to help in that regard. Consequently, the LCS could escape Congress' budget wrath. However, if the LCS does get cut, that would undoubtedly be an unpleasant blow to Lockheed, as well as General Dynamics' (NYSE: GD (http://caps.fool.com/Ticker/GD.aspx?source=isssitthv0000001) (http://my.fool.com/watchlist/add?ticker=GD&source=iwlsitbut0000010)) partner, Austal, which is also building a variant of the LCS. Consequently, this is something to keep your eye on.
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ShortJohnSilver
17th February 2014, 10:45 AM
So what are the "successes" that are recent, for the military in terms of designing new hardware? We are still flying stuff from the 1950s! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_B-52_Stratofortress

midnight rambler
17th February 2014, 11:01 AM
So what are the "successes" that are recent, for the military in terms of designing new hardware? We are still flying stuff from the 1950s! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_B-52_Stratofortress

These are HUGE 'successes' when one takes into account the INTENT of the arrangement, i.e make as MUCH profit as possible for the MIC contractors, the 'hardware' is simply used as a vehicle to those end$$$$$$.

And FWIW, the USAF has indicated that the USAF will keep the BUFF (B-52) in service until 2045.

Ponce
17th February 2014, 11:12 AM
All this is to make more money for those with a lot of money.....that includes those who approves the monies for all this.

V

Horn
17th February 2014, 11:42 AM
All this is to make more money for those with a lot of money.....that includes those who approves the monies for all this.

V

Can't build good stuff if you're going to end up selling it to Egypt in 30 years.

The choice of a pyramid silhouette, and ability to melt with laser from outerspace is key.

Maybe they were trying to make its signature read as already capsized?

Ponce
17th February 2014, 12:48 PM
Do you mean like those "invisible" planes that cost trillions and on a radar they looked the size of a bird flying at supersonic speed?

V

Jewboo
17th February 2014, 12:58 PM
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SPAM as naked as it gets...lol.


:rolleyes:

mick silver
17th February 2014, 02:15 PM
this one line tell me this ship is pure junk ... The LCS is a "combat" ship that can't survive a hostile combat situation. Low survivability

Horn
17th February 2014, 02:36 PM
Do you mean like those "invisible" planes that cost trillions and on a radar they looked the size of a bird flying at supersonic speed?

V

Yes, in the end I think those planes ended up not meeting the speed expectations originally specified, "mysteriously" :)

Its either that, or make a plane that does fancy loops that only your pilots know how to achieve...

Glass
18th February 2014, 12:38 AM
there are two different ships pictured and both are called Littoral combat ships. Are both of them LCS's or no?

I'm assuming the stealth fighter look is the one the article is about. Australia will probably by 10 of these, but only if they don't work. We don't like buying military shit that works.

Ponce
18th February 2014, 06:58 AM
A funny story....... when my dad was on vacation from college he used to make kayaks which he just to rent out, the license for a it was of $25.00 but the license for a ship was only $7.00........guess what?, he had a fleet of ships that were only ten feet long hahahah.

I am talking about back in the 1930's when a dollar was a dollar......... back in the 50's I just to ride the one that he made for me and every time that I went under the draw bridge the guy used to stop traffic till I went by......I was about three or four miles in the ocean when I saw a bunch fins swimming around me, at first I though that they were sharks but they were going up and down so that they really were dolphins..........the name of my kayak was "The Banana Peel" because it was yellow.

V