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Ares
19th February 2014, 09:18 AM
Being former military, I can see why this individual attempted to do that. While in, you're constantly drilled in either flight or fight responses. I may of been on an aircraft carrier 24/7, but you are required to be alert and aware of everything all the time. It's mentally and physically exhausting. I went through some bouts of depression when I returned home. I took part in operation Kosovo (bombing of Yugoslavia) and operation Desert Fox(Bombing of Iraq after Saddam kicked out the UN weapons inspectors). I helped build, maintain and deployed some of the weapons used in that war. Seeing the dead woman and children on the news knowing you were a cause for that wasn't something that's really easy to deal with. CNN was on my ship so we got access to live video feeds and data after the bombs were dropped. The reason I say that, is I read this at the daily Paul, and the above is just my ability attempting to relate. I never attempted suicide, but the thoughts certainly cropped up when I was back home. Being hyper alert with anxiety in a society that is numb to everything around it tends to make you feel like you're unwanted or needed. Anyway, here is this gentleman's story:

I must have been sitting in the bathtub for hours. Condensation was building on the barrel of the Ruger .45 automatic that is shoved in my mouth. A trash bag is placed over my head with my arms through the drawstrings so my brains do not splatter against the wall. With a round chambered and the safety off, I watch the hammer pull back while slowly pulling the trigger. Click!

My heart skips a few beats as I try to gain my wits. Am I dead? Is this the afterlife? Gradually, I begin to realize the gun did not fire even though the hammer slammed forward. I franticly eject the round from the chamber, place the gun back into its box, and return it to the closet.

This haunting scene occurred on the afternoon of February 3rd. I was at rock bottom. I have been suffering from debilitating anxiety and depression since leaving the military over three years ago. For most of this time I would self-medicate the pain with alcohol. It seemed to efficiently numb my angst until I was busted for DWI last June. Sitting in jail for 48 hours resulted in a successful detox. Upon seeing the judge, I pled guilty and received probation. This meant no more drinking, no more self- medicating.

For the next six months I did what was required of me. I went to numerous substance abuse classes and group meetings. I paid my fine in full. I even had an ignition interlock installed in my truck. However, the sobriety came with unrestrained PTSD symptoms.

Around the middle of November was my tipping point. I quit everything- my job, visiting my probation officer and substance abuse counselor, even paying my bills. I isolated myself in my apartment for the next two months, ordering a pizza once a week for sustainment. The only social interaction I took part in was a bi-weekly trip to my dad’s house and the occasional comment on The Daily Paul. I spent most my time hyper alert, anxiously pacing from room to room pondering how to end my life.

My dad came to check on me January 10th. I lied and told him I had been suffering from the flu. He asked if I had money for rent or food. He convinced me to move in with him; after all he had lived alone since my mother passed away in 2009. In the presence of my dad I would put on a smile, while still planning on killing myself. This culminated in the events of February 3rd.

Sobbing, I called my counselor and told her what I had attempted. She scheduled for me to meet her in the morning. Meanwhile, my dad arrived home from work and I informed him of what was going on. As we were wrapping up our conversation the doorbell rang. It was the police. My counselor had called in an emergency response.

The police took me to the emergency room where I was questioned by a doctor and social worker. The doctor ordered that I be transferred to a mental hospital nearly 500 miles away. Even though I explained I was uninsured, they evacuated me on an expensive medical flight. Upon arriving at the hospital, I was confused and irritated. During my intake, I was asked to retell my story to a therapist. I was then seen by a psychiatrist. He prescribed me a few medications and explained they would hold me for a week to monitor the effects.

As the medication began to work I felt an unfamiliar sensation, clear-headedness. During my stay, I met some very wonderful people who like me were in a dark place. We would sit in the halls and talk for hours about our lives. I began to realize my problems were not unique and it was possible that my brain could be fixed. I was not just a crazy person.

At my follow up appointment with the VA, I met with a therapist that specializes in counseling combat veterans. She spoke in very scientific terms. She explained how my brain gets stuck in flight or fight and its logical response that alleviates the anxiety and hyper-alertness has been repressed by alcohol abuse. This was very reassuring for the reason that a scientific problem can have a scientific solution.

In conclusion, the gun did not fire! Every day from now to my optimistically natural death is a gift. I am excited to face whatever life brings my way.

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.


http://www.dailypaul.com/312699/the-gun-didnt-fire

Glass
19th February 2014, 09:46 AM
and he lost his gun rights? smells like bait to me.

Ares
19th February 2014, 09:50 AM
and he lost his gun rights? smells like bait to me.

under obama care... most likely going to have his gun removed from his possession. Ironically if he used a razor to slit his wrist they would of done nothing about removing sharp objects from his home.....

The state, the ever ignorant and incompetent parent.

jimswift
19th February 2014, 10:21 AM
As the medication began to work I felt an unfamiliar sensation, clear-headedness. During my stay, I met some very wonderful people who like me were in a dark place. We would sit in the halls and talk for hours about our lives. I began to realize my problems were not unique and it was possible that my brain could be fixed. I was not just a crazy person.

Kinda sounds like an ad for SSRI's.

I recently had a hospital stay and they had me on some(ssri) without me knowing or at least I was too high to know. I was happy/jolly and agreeable as could be.

I was discharged, but no script for those, and as the week went on it started getting bad. Coming down off that shit is a bad ride.

I didn't know I had been given those particular pills and can see why they say they are so addictive. I was having withdrawals I guess, but didn't know why my mood was changing so dramatically.

It isn't hard to see why people get on, or are put on those pills and don't hardly ever get off them.

...Happy Pills

Ares
19th February 2014, 10:32 AM
Kinda sounds like an ad for SSRI's.

I recently had a hospital stay and they had me on some(ssri) without me knowing or at least I was too high to know. I was happy/jolly and agreeable as could be.

I was discharged, but no script for those, and as the week went on it started getting bad. Coming down off that shit is a bad ride.

I didn't know I had been given those particular pills and can see why they say they are so addictive. I was having withdrawals I guess, but didn't know why my mood was changing so dramatically.

It isn't hard to see why people get on, or are put on those pills and don't hardly ever get off them.

...Happy Pills

They WAY over prescribe those pills. If anything, the guy just needs to talk to someone and come to grips with what he's seen and experienced. We all cope differently with stress and life experiences. But knowing you aren't the only one dealing with it is half the battle.

midnight rambler
19th February 2014, 12:31 PM
Taking some drugs will make one so high one doesn't give much of a shit about anything - EXCEPT getting more drugs to take. Big Pharma has mastered that extremely profitable formula.

Does this story smell fishy to anyone besides me??

Twisted Titan
19th February 2014, 02:26 PM
Has was disarmed
He was placed in a state data base.
He embraces the state recomended treament plan.

He is a success in terms of state managment.

midnight rambler
19th February 2014, 02:46 PM
Has was disarmed
He was placed in a state data base.
He embraces the state recomended treament plan.

He is a success in terms of state managment.

I'm calling bullshit on the entire story.


I must have been sitting in the bathtub for hours. Condensation was building on the barrel of the Ruger .45 automatic that is shoved in my mouth. A trash bag is placed over my head with my arms through the drawstrings so my brains do not splatter against the wall. With a round chambered and the safety off, I watch the hammer pull back while slowly pulling the trigger. Click!

My heart skips a few beats as I try to gain my wits. Am I dead? Is this the afterlife? Gradually, I begin to realize the gun did not fire even though the hammer slammed forward. I franticly eject the round from the chamber, place the gun back into its box, and return it to the closet.


Really? Come on. Really??

Highly unlikely that a Ruger semi-auto pistol would FTF. What a moron, he's even a failure at killing himself, how pathetic. Besides, what self-respecting vet would refer to their pistol as a "Ruger .45 automatic*" rather than a Ruger P-89 or P-95, etc. or simply "my Ruger .45" or "my Ruger pistol"?? And even though his head was completely up his own ass...er, I mean completely in a garbage bag he was able to see the fine details of the "hammer pulling back"...?? (what gunowner talks like that?? ???) Gee, did he have NV?? And condensation** was building on the barrel? WTF?? ??? One is NOT going to see the barrel of a semi-auto pistol without pulling back the slide - was this condensation he supposedly observed in the interior of the barrel?? How'd he know this when he couldn't see shit with his head in a trash bag??

*use of the term 'automatic' is a dead giveaway that this horseshit story was concocted by a gungrabbing statist

**in order for there to be "condensation building on the barrel" the pistol would necessarily HAVE to be WELL BELOW ambient room temperature, say like having just gotten it out of a freezer...even then this 'condensation buildup' would NOT have continued for 'hours' lol

Libertarian_Guard
19th February 2014, 02:50 PM
MR

Yes it smells fishy, but it dosen't matter, since its already out there, over and over again.

The lesson learned is that war sucks and its not without major negative consequences!

Back in the early 1980's I met an old man that told me about how the returning veterans from WWI were a huge (burden, negative, problem) for this country. I thought he was wrong, and I argued against him. But he left a question mark in my mind, and as the years went on, I realized he was correct!

It's not unlike the laws of physics, with an equal and opposite reaction.

And since we don't (can't) learn ahead of time, it is like the picture Book kept putting up, where someone with a noose around their neck is watering a tree.

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials

midnight rambler
19th February 2014, 03:02 PM
MR

Yes it smells fishy, but it dosen't matter, since its already out there, over and over again.

The lesson learned is that war sucks and its not without major negative consequences!

Back in the early 1980's I met an old man that told me about how the returning veterans from WWI were a huge (burden, negative, problem) for this country. I thought he was wrong, and I argued against him. But he left a question mark in my mind, and as the years went on, I realized he was correct!

It's not unlike the laws of physics, with an equal and opposite reaction.

And since we don't (can't) learn ahead of time, it is like the picture Book kept putting up, where someone with a noose around their neck is watering a tree.

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials

To be sure I'm not saying that there's not severely messed up cannon fodder in the general population, what I'm asserting is that this story is a load of bullshit with an agenda. It's very subtle, but it's there plain as day.

Glass
19th February 2014, 06:10 PM
Kinda sounds like an ad for SSRI's.

I recently had a hospital stay and they had me on some(ssri) without me knowing or at least I was too high to know. I was happy/jolly and agreeable as could be.

I was discharged, but no script for those, and as the week went on it started getting bad. Coming down off that shit is a bad ride.

I didn't know I had been given those particular pills and can see why they say they are so addictive. I was having withdrawals I guess, but didn't know why my mood was changing so dramatically.

It isn't hard to see why people get on, or are put on those pills and don't hardly ever get off them.

...Happy Pills


every body wants to be..... comfortably numb


Hello?
Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me.
Is there anyone at home?
Come on, now,
I hear you're feeling down.
Well I can ease your pain
Get you on your feet again.
Relax.
I'll need some information first.
Just the basic facts.
Can you show me where it hurts?

There is no pain you are receding
A distant ship, smoke on the horizon.
You are only coming through in waves.
Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying.
When I was a child I had a fever
My hands felt just like two balloons.
Now I've got that feeling once again
I can't explain you would not understand
This is not how I am.
I have become comfortably numb.

O.K.
Just a little pinprick.


I know someone who has been on those things for a while. He has some pretty difficult issues to deal with. He hears voices. You will be having a conversation with him and he's right there with you but then he starts talking like there is another person in the conversation and he talks to them, sometimes changing mid sentence when talking to me or others. So basically you say or ask something and you will get an ok answer but then he will be talking about a completely different topic but as if it's the same. Strange experience. I took a while to work out that he was talking to the other voice or voices that I couldn't hear. I've never seen it but he has bad experiences on it. It surpessess what ever the problem is most of the time, but some times it is not effective.

I think he has very little chance of getting off them. I think he tried to once but he went off the deep end. He's a good person.

midnight rambler
19th February 2014, 06:33 PM
...voices...I hear voices...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftcyFZxnTro