PDA

View Full Version : Texan Fracking: 260bn of gallons of toxic water waste since 2005.. drought in CA?



singular_me
23rd February 2014, 02:54 PM
I decided to start a new thread for this matter as I suspect that many of you are oblivious to what is said in 'Major California Drought Could Spell 'Catastrophe' for Nation's Food Supply' started by EE.

Texas has had its 'oily bright days', time to pull the plug!!

----------------------------------------------------------
A REAL STORY IN NM
here is a case of man-made scarcity. Where I live, NM, at 7000ft elevation, most houses have a well and still PLENTY of water so far. The ditch service causes more fights between people as water distribution for the fields is restricted. But there is a control burn of the forest almost every year... what for, would one ask? It is simple, so Texas can have more water. It tells a lot about the size of that aquifer, it is huge! But meanwhile, up here, where I live, much of the dryness of the soil is attributed to global warming. I am almost sure that there is a massive scam behind that Texas story.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75231-Major-California-Drought-Could-Spell-Catastrophe-for-Nation-s-Food-Supply&p=692406&viewfull=1#post692406


as I am searching the net for my next column: water waste in America and the rest of the world... the Texan' s fracking massive scam could be taking shape

Fracking in America generated 280bn US gallons of toxic waste water last year – enough to flood all of Washington DC beneath a 22ft deep toxic lagoon, a new report out on Thursday found........ It can take 2m to 9m gallons of water mixed with sand and chemicals to frack a single well. The report said the drilling industry had used 250bn gallons of fresh water since 2005. Much of that returns to the surface, however, along with naturally occurring radium and bromides, and concerns are growing about those effects on the environment.... About 260bn US gallons of the 280bn US gallons of toxic waste water were from Texas, a state that has undergone three years of severe drought and where there is fierce competition for water between the oil industry and farmers and ranchers.... more
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/oct/04/fracking-us-toxic-waste-water-washington

California lack of water, would it be about fracking again??
Contaminated water. Greenhouse gas pollution. Dead wildlife. And grave threats to public health.
Fracking, or hydraulic fracturing — and the industrial development that comes with it — have left a grim trail of damage across America. This damaging oil and gas–drilling technique involves injecting millions of gallons of highly pressurized water, sand and toxic chemicals deep into the earth. http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/campaigns/california_fracking/index.html

Fracking blamed for drought in California
Environmentalists say state figures are based on voluntary submission and not are verified. "We just don't how much water fracking has used or will use," said Zack Malitz of San Francisco-based progressive group Credo, a group that has helped organize dozens of rallies against fracking in California.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/21/us-california-fracking-moratorium-idUSBREA1K23620140221?feedType=RSS
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101408226

Hydraulic Fracturing Hypocrisy: Exxon CEO Says No to Fracking
Saturday, February 22, 2014
The dangerous gas mining process of hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, is threatening the fresh water supply of our entire planet. Although petrochemical corporations still feebly try to claim that this mining process is safe, this largely unregulated toxic method of natural gas extraction is creating so much chemical and methane pollution, that in some regions the contaminated local household tap water actually catches on fire.
http://beforeitsnews.com/environment/2014/02/hydraulic-fracturing-hypocrisy-exxon-ceo-says-no-to-fracking-2493692.html?utm_source=direct-b4in.info&utm_campaign=&utm_content=beforeit39snews-verticalresponse&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2FjUNI&utm_medium=verticalresponse

also search for:
Fight Fracking in Southern Illinois, Protect the Shawnee | Facebook
America's trade deficit is shrinking. Thank fracking. - Washington Post
Fracking in America - Watch Free Documentary Online
Exxon CEO Profits Huge As America's Largest Natural Gas Producer-But Frack In His Own Backyard And He Sues!
How the U.S. Energy Boom is Changing America’s Place in the World
America's Fracking Revolution Is Threatened By A New Report From The State Department
How America’s Fracking Boom Helps to Boost Treasuries Demand
Americans Against Fracking | Facebook
The Fracking of America - CNBC.com

speculation? what for??

EE_
23rd February 2014, 04:15 PM
There might be something to what you are saying...

Several years ago I was listening to someone in the oil/gas industry talk about fracking, before all this fracking began...he said there was plenty of gas and oil in the US, but we/they wouldn't be able to get to it because of all the water fracking would need pumped into the earth. He said that water was just not available.

So I ask, where did they get all this water for all the fracking they are doing right now?

Are we talking about the same thing here Singular?

There is a real drought in California, but contamination of the aquifir is another story.

Glass
23rd February 2014, 04:19 PM
they should be made to call it by its proper name o f fracturing. Those toxic chemicals, some of which is made of small ceramic spheres doesn't come backup. It's job is to get jammed into these fractures and wedge open the cracks wider so the gas can start to accumulate under some pressure.

That material never comes out and the fractures are never closed. Fracturing changes the geology permanently and where conditions are right, increased instability results. So not only is destructive to water but the geology as well.

Its a scandal this practice is even allowed.

woodman
23rd February 2014, 04:22 PM
Singular, we are on the same page. Fracking is insanity. Just as the current nuclear plants are insanity. It all needs to be stopped now. We are leaving a toxic wasteland for our children. The corporations are anyway. I would have no problem living like the Amish if that is what it really comes down to. I do not need to live to a certain standard if that standard destroys the world I leave behind to my grandkids.

mick silver
23rd February 2014, 04:35 PM
Having set the wheels in motion for establishing international controls over food and population, the Rockefellers then made their move in the all-important energy field. As Dr. Medford Evans has noted: "Energy makes the world go'round." And he adds the obvious, but crucial fact: "Who controls what, makes the world go round controls the world. ... http://www.voxfux.com/features/rockefeller/index.html#metatop

singular_me
23rd February 2014, 04:36 PM
Dear EE, fracking is just one part of the story... may be the biggest one though... but like I said in your thread, the sodas industry must go, along with long daily showers in every household, and the unsustainable radiant green lawns... Nature can only endure so much. Again we ALL are culpable, from corporations down to the consumer level. Our 'for profit system' must simply die or it will kill us...

I feel sad but revolted at the same time, trust me



There might be something to what you are saying...

Several years ago I was listening to someone in the oil/gas industry talk about fracking, before all this fracking began...he said there was plenty of gas and oil in the US, but we/they wouldn't be able to get to it because of all the water fracking would need pumped into the earth. He said that water was just not available.

So I ask, where did they get all this water for all the fracking they are doing right now?

Are we talking about the same thing here Singular?

There is a real drought in California, but contamination of the aquifir is another story.

midnight rambler
23rd February 2014, 04:55 PM
and the unsustainable radiant green lawns

GTFO!!! I am NOT(!!!) giving up my beautiful yard. I pay the landscape company a LOT of money to get to look like it does and keep it that way, and that's one cherished delusion they will have to pry out of my cold, dead hands. All you wankers who think you're gonna deprive me of my beautiful yard can kiss my ass. /sarc

mick silver
23rd February 2014, 05:12 PM
http://www.allianceforwaterefficiency.org/uploadedImages/Resource_Center/Library/residential/showers/showerhead%20with%20shut%20off.jpgsave alot of water

woodman
23rd February 2014, 05:24 PM
http://www.allianceforwaterefficiency.org/uploadedImages/Resource_Center/Library/residential/showers/showerhead%20with%20shut%20off.jpgsave alot of water

Every shower head I've bought in the last 20 years has had a ridiculously small orifice for water to pass through. I drill them out so I can achieve an awesome deluge of water in my shower. I love being pounded by hot water. The water I use in my shower is never wasted. It comes from a shallow well and I am surrounded by water most of the year. The water goes back into the ground whence it came and the circle is complete. My wood boiler provides the heat. The aquifier is never depleted by my use and I take long, hot showers, contemplating the mystery of life and meditating upon the oneness of being. My shower is large and exquisitely tiled by my own hand. Showers are good!

mick silver
23rd February 2014, 05:31 PM
but if you didnt have all the water to waste would you still . i also have more then i will ever used an i like hot showers also . but if i didnt i would turn the water off then rinse ... soap and rinse we all may see this in our lifes

woodman
23rd February 2014, 05:40 PM
Absolutely Mick. I like to joke about it, but it is a serious issue. Our ancestors probably bathed once a season and they got by just fine. I would be happy to do the same. As long as I have plentiful water though, I will enjoy it. I do love hot showers.

woodman
23rd February 2014, 05:45 PM
Back when times were hard for me; I have lived through some bitter times, when I never knew how I would pay my mortgage from month to month, nor how I'd pay the electric bill; I used to boil pans of water on the stove and mix them with cold water to bath with or to just wash my hair when it got real greasy. One time I was doing this at the kitchen sink and forgot that I hadn't mixed the boiling water in the pitcher. Poured it on my head to rinse the soap out and at first it felt ice cold. I was a split second later that I realized it was boiling water. Hurt like hell and I was blistered up something fierce. Couldn't sleep that night for the pain.

singular_me
23rd February 2014, 07:36 PM
still searching about CA's water/aquifers. While fracking in CA requires much less water than in Texas, there has been a Fed Crack Down After Hundreds Of CA Offshore Fracking Operations were Revealed. CA Coastal Commission Had NO IDEA Oil Cos. Were Fracking Offshore.

although CA data has relied on 'voluntary disclosures' by Oil firms until recently (thanks to oïl lobbies), it is as if there an agenda to siphon CA's water to get its oil. Sure, this takes place all over the planet. But WHY are fracking regulations unexistent in CA?

Fracking is already taking place in at least nine California counties, and rising oil prices are sparking interest in doing it on other sites atop the Monterey Shale, a geological formation that holds an estimated 15 billion barrels of oil.
http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/campaigns/california_fracking/index.html


What The Fracking Companies Don't Want California To Know.... In California, oil companies are pressing for further exploration of the massive Monterey Shale, a 1,750-square-mile area extending from the agricultural Central Valley to the Pacific Ocean that federal energy officials say could ultimately comprise two-thirds of the nation's shale oil reserves.

In Ventura County, at the southern tip of the Monterey Shale and an hour north of Los Angeles, drought-induced pressures on local water systems are already visible; one local water district predicts some groundwater wells will go dry by summer.

David Schwabauer, a fourth-generation farmer in the county, said overtures by companies that want to drill new wells amid his avocado and lemon groves are prompting difficult conversations about how to manage the family farm. One orchard relies on irrigation from an overdrawn aquifer, while the other is kept alive using expensive water piped in from the distant Sierra Nevada mountains....... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/17/fracking-water-fights_n_3454493.html


California: The New Frack Frontier
The oil industry is planning to dramatically increase oil production within California using hydraulic fracturing, acidizing and other unconventional recovery processes, threatening California’s communities, air, and drinking water.
Occidental Corporation (Oxy) is the largest holder of land/ mineral rights in California, holding rights to drill over 1.6 million acres of land in the Monterey Shale. In a presentation to shareholders in 2010, Oxy officials stated that “in 10 years, California shale could become Oxy’s largest business unit."
Venoco Inc. has one of the largest stakes in the Monterey Shale with rights to drill in over 300,000 acres. There are more than 10 billion barrels of oil available for extraction at its current sites. In its 2011 report to shareholders, the company stated that it continues to expand its onshore Monterey acreage lease holdings across three basins: Santa Maria, Salinas Valley, and San Joaquin.

Apparently, oil and gas industry officials feel optimistic that regulatory agencies won’t present an obstacle to plans to develop their oil and gas leases in California. Tim Marquez, founder,Chairman and Chief Executive of Venoco, said in 2011, "[w]e are shoringup our development plans for the Sevier discovery and have been in contact with the agencies to ensure we have a clear path forward to develop this discovery. We currently expect to drill 30 to 40 wells there next year.”

The Lack of Oversight in California
Despite the grave dangers associated with fracking, there has been very little regulation of fracking and other oil and gas extraction methods in California. In fact, California lags behind almost every other state where fracking occurs in protecting local communities. As one of the largest oil and gas producing states, with approximately 60,000 oil and gas wells, California’s lack of regulation has put local communities at serious risk. In California,

The Division of Oil and Gas Resources (DOGGR) does not require a permit to frack a well, only an initial permit to drill or to rework the well;
DOGGR does not know the location of fracked wells;
DOGGR does not record well casing failures that can lead to spills and contamination of local groundwater supplies;
DOGGR does not require drillers to disclose where contaminated wastewater from drilling operations is being disposed and does not adequately regulate underground injection of fracking wastewater despite having a legal mandate to do so.
http://www.cleanwateraction.org/fracking-california

singular_me
24th February 2014, 05:30 AM
likely CA lawmakers are guilty of a massive cover-up to make it look like the drought is an act of God.


The Division of Oil and Gas Resources (DOGGR) does not require a permit to frack a well, only an initial permit to drill or to rework the well;
DOGGR does not know the location of fracked wells;
DOGGR does not record well casing failures that can lead to spills and contamination of local groundwater supplies;
DOGGR does not require drillers to disclose where contaminated wastewater from drilling operations is being disposed and does not adequately regulate underground injection of fracking wastewater despite having a legal mandate to do so.

not that I believe in regulations, clearly too late...
November 15, 2013
California releases proposed fracking regulations
http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2013/11/california-fracking-regulations.html

Feds Approve More Fracking off California Coast - ABC News , Feb 13, 2014
California for the first time fines oil company for dumping fracking discharge - December 04, 2013

Under such circumstances, we shouldnt trust reports saying that fracking in CA requires less water than in any other state.


2014-02-1 Nobody Knows How Much Fracking is Happening Off California's Coast...
Last October, the Associated Press revealed that offshore fracking is occurring much more frequently than California officials are aware. More than 200 fracking projects were discovered to have taken place over the preceding two decades in waters near Long Beach, Seal Beach, and Huntington Beach, some of the California coast’s most famous attractions.... California passed a law last year that included some basic requirements for oil companies to disclose what chemicals are used in fracking fluids and to obtain a permit from the state for fracking operations, but the Los Angeles Times, echoing the sentiments of many environmentalists and legislators, said the law had been “so watered down as to be useless.” .... Other than another spill, the chief concern is that the oil industry is allowed by federal regulators to dump as much as 9 billion gallons of wastewater into the ocean every year, and no one knows what the impact of fracking chemicals will be on ocean and coastal ecosystems.
“To date, little data has been collected," says Allison Dettmer, deputy director of the California Coastal Commission. ...
http://www.desmogblog.com/2014/02/18/nobody-seems-know-how-much-fracking-happening-california-coast

singular_me
26th February 2014, 02:34 PM
More Than Flaming Water: New Report Tracks Health Impacts of Fracking on Pennsylvania Residents’ Health
By Joanna M. Foster on August 26, 2013
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/08/26/2526201/fracking-health-data/#

--------------------------------
Alarming Secret Your Doctor Is Gagged From Telling You
Sunday, February 23, 2014 9:23
(Before It's News)
More than 1,000 doctors and other health care professionals, many gagged from telling patients about fracking chemicals such as radiation, benzene and arsenic in air and water making them sick, told President Obama on Thursday to take steps needed to protect Americans from alarming fracking risks kept secret from the the public.

Photo above: Fracking opponents protest before the Tom Corbett inauguration to become the 46th governor of Pennsylvania at the state capitol in Harrisburg, Pa., Tuesday, Jan. 18, 2011.

Environment America delivered a letter Thursday with over 1,000 signatures from health care professionals asking Obama to declare a fracking ban on certain areas in the U.S. and ensure fracking is no longer exempt from environmental laws, like the Clean Water Act and Clean Air Act.

The letter outlines secret dangers fracking poses to human health and the environment, including drinking water contamination, carcinogenic air pollution, acute and chronic health effects, and greenhouse gas emissions.

Each of those threats increasingly takes its toll on humans, according to the letter that includes the following explanations:

• Fracking operations have contaminated drinking water sources from Pennsylvania to New Mexico. Leaks and spills of fracturing fluid – which often contain known carcinogens (e.g. benzene) and endocrine-disrupting chemicals – have polluted rivers and streams. Other contaminants have flowed into residential wells. And fracking wastewater – often containing heavy metals (e.g. lead, arsenic) and radioactive materials (e.g. radon, uranium) – has leached from hundreds of waste pits into
groundwater.

• Air contaminants released from fracking operations include volatile organic compounds (VOCs); some are carcinogenic, and some damage the liver, kidneys and central nervous system. Researchers at the University of Colorado School of Public Health found that people living within a half-mile of gas fracking wells had a higher excess lifetime risk of developing cancer than people living farther away.

• There are a growing number of documented cases of individuals suffering acute and chronic health effects while living near fracking operations – including nausea, rashes, dizziness, headaches and nose bleeds. Physicians reviewing medical records in Pennsylvania have called these illnesses “the tip of the iceberg” of fracking impacts on health; and

• Fracking operations release significant volumes of global warming pollution. Methane, which scientists now say is 86 times more potent than carbon as a greenhouse gas over 20 years, is released at oil and gas fracking wells, and also during the processing, transmission, and distribution of gas. Global warming presents a major threat to human health via heat waves, extreme weather events, flooding, water contamination, sea level rise, expansion…

“Given this toll of damage, the prudent and precautionary response would be to stop fracking,” the letter reads. “Instead, the oil and gas industry is seeking to expand fracking at a frenzied pace, even into areas that provide drinking water for millions of Americans.”

Gagging doctors, covering up fracking death and destruction

A report from Pennsylvania last year documented various health problems affecting residents living near natural gas operations.

In Pennsylvania, however, a gag order prevents doctors from telling their patients what chemicals from fracking solutions might be the cause of their illnesses.... MORE

http://beforeitsnews.com/energy/2014/02/alarming-secret-your-doctor-is-gagged-from-telling-you-2453296.html?utm_campaign=&utm_content=beforeit39snews-verticalresponse&utm_source=direct-b4in.info&utm_medium=verticalresponse&utm_term=http%3A%2F%2Fb4in.info%2FtVDB


Fracking house explosions, suicides, miscarriages cover up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIyrwHUOlwg

singular_me
26th February 2014, 02:55 PM
here is a possible scenario... the fracking energy boom has polluted so much that "they" simply turned off access to water, then claim it is a drought... but water that doesnt return to the surface cannot evaporate and form clouds, then fall back as rain.... on top of this we can assume that HAARP has been used when deemed necessary...

yeah folks, it is global warming....

singular_me
27th February 2014, 07:50 AM
Another scary reading
----------------------


PENNSYLVANIA

The Times’ exhaustive study which included review of 30,000 pages of federal, state and company records relating to 200 gas wells in Pennsylvania, 40 in West Virginia and 20 public and private wastewater treatment plans found the following:

More than 1.3 billion gallons of wastewater was produced by Pennsylvania wells from 2008 to 2010, far more than has been previously disclosed. Most of this water — enough to cover Manhattan in three inches — was sent to treatment plants not equipped to remove many of the toxic and hazardous materials in drilling waste.

Treatment plants in Pennsylvania discharged waste into some of the state’s major river basins including the Monongahela River, which provides drinking water to more than 800,000 people including Pittsburgh and the Susquehanna River, which feeds into Chesapeake Bay and provides drinking water to more than 6 million people.

Drillers in Pennsylvania trucked at least half of their waste to at least 12 sewage treatment plants in three other states including two plants in New York that discharge into Southern Cayuga Lake near Ithaca and Owasco Outlet, near Auburn.

Of more than 179 wells producing wastewater with high levels of radiation, at least 116 reported levels of radium or other radioactive materials 100 times as high as the levels set by federal drinking-water standards. At least 15 wells produced wastewater carrying more than 1,000 times the amount of radioactive elements considered acceptable.

Most wastewater facilities cannot remove enough of the radioactive material to meet federal drinking-water standards before discharging the wastewater into rivers, sometimes just miles upstream from drinking–water intake plants.

Federal and state regulators have given nearly all drinking-water intake facilities in Pennsylvania permission to only test for radioactivity once every six or nine years and with the blessing of regulators, have not tested for radioactivity since before 2006, even though the drilling boom began in 2008.


New York has a Terrible Record Tracking Waste from Current Wells

A May 2012 study by Environmental Advocates of New York, “Out of Sight, Out of Mind, New York’s Failure to Track or Treat Fracking Waste Endangers Public Health & the Environment” found that there is no clear record of how waste was handled from 6628 active gas wells that were fracked in New York State as of 2009. They discovered that existing state laws and regulations do not require oil and gas companies to report with any specificity how much waste is being created, its chemical components, or how drilling waste is being disposed. They uncovered that much of fracking’s waste would likely be classified as hazardous waste if it were not exempt under flawed state regulations. This is yet another example of the failure of government to protect us from the dangers of gas drilling.

MORE
http://www.catskillmountainkeeper.org/our-programs/fracking/whats-wrong-with-fracking-2/wastewater/

singular_me
27th February 2014, 07:56 AM
and all this food and sodas coming from China...

laughable, cynical, many articles speak of the fracking disaster as a bounty for the 'water treatment industry'.

-----------------------------
There is no good way to dispose of that much hazardous waste. In December 2011, a series of earthquakes that were later linked to underground waste disposal shook the Youngstown area. In Ohio, waste can be put through sewage treatment facilities, dumped into landfills, or even spread as a de-icer on roads.
http://www.environmentohio.org/programs/ohe/stop-fracking-waste

Energy-industry study: Oil, gas could add 200,000 new jobs in Ohio over 4 years
2011 article
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2011/09/20/oil-gas-industry-could-boom-in-ohio.html
-----------------------------
Fracking by the Numbers
Key Impacts of Dirty Drilling at the State and National Level
Release date: Thursday, October 3, 2013
http://www.environmentamerica.org/reports/ame/fracking-numbers

---------------------------
Fracking: The New Global Water Crisis
March 7th, 2012

Within the past decade, technological advances in horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing, or “fracking,” have enabled the oil and gas industry to extract large quantities of oil and natural gas from shale formations in the United States. However, the practice has proven controversial. Pollution from modern drilling and fracking has caused widespread environmental and public health problems and created serious, long-term risks to underground water resources.

In this report, Food & Water Watch reviews the risks and costs of shale development that have been demonstrated in the United States, including economic costs that run counter to industry-backed claims about the economic benefits of the practice.

DOWNLOAD PDF
VIEW ON SCRIBD
EN ESPANOL
http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/reports/fracking-the-new-global-water-crisis/#

Briefly:Food & Water Watch then summarizes the state of shale development in six selected countries: France, Bulgaria, Poland, South Africa, China and Argentina.

Strong public opposition to fracking in France and Bulgaria has led to national bans on the practice.

The government of Poland has welcomed oil and gas industry plans to develop shale resources in the country, but charges of bribery during the process of awarding leases have tainted these plans.

Pending an environmental review by the South African government, Royal Dutch Shell may soon be granted permission to drill and frack in South Africa’s Karoo Basin.

The Chinese government is pushing an expansion of shale development, and numerous oil and gas companies are partnering with Chinese firms, both in the United States and in China.

In Argentina, oil and gas companies have begun developing shale oil and shale gas resources in the Neuquén Basin, with the support of the Argentinean government.

mick silver
27th February 2014, 08:11 AM
and yet again the gov letting them pour this waste water back into the river and lakes . but let you are me do something like this and see how fast the cop are call to come and kill us

mick silver
27th February 2014, 08:13 AM
The Rockefeller game plan is to use population, energy, food, and financial controls as a method of people control which will lead, steadily and deliberately, into the Great Merger. Much of the spade work for setting up this ploy is being done by Henry Kissinger, who was a personal employee of Nelson Rockefeller for a decade before Rocky placed him in the Nixon Administration. On numerous occasions Herr Kissinger has declared that his goal is to create a "New World Order.

Jewboo
27th February 2014, 08:16 AM
http://www.funpeak.com/funnypics/neuschwanstein-castle.jpg

http://www.wallpapersat.com/wallpapers/2013/03/Lake-Canton-Of-Bern-Switzerland-480x800.jpg

http://www.earthmagazine.org/sites/earthmagazine.org/files/1324689371/i-123-7d9-1-17.jpg

http://mywarhistory.com/uploads/myWarPictures/1344-Port-of-Embarkation-Bremerhaven,-Germany.jpg


:rolleyes: never any water problems in Germany

singular_me
27th February 2014, 08:55 AM
nice pics, Book... when I happen to go back to EU, I am always amazed at the radiant green of Nature. I miss that a lot, especially in NM... getting ready for a winter in the tropic, though

---------------------------------------------------

The "Fracking" Revolution Comes to China
With some predicting China will import 79% of its oil by 2030, could domestic shale gas extraction help China meet its energy needs?
http://thediplomat.com/2013/03/the-fracking-revolution-comes-to-china/
http://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/Its-Official-China-Embraces-Oil-Shale-and-Fracking.html

China’s Purchase of U.S. Fracking Company will give it Advanced Technology
http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Chinas-Purchase-of-U.S.-Fracking-Company-will-give-it-Advanced-Technology.html

-----------------------------------------------------
ps: while most EU countries are banning fracking, they see no problems to invest in chinese fracking

plenty of videos
http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video;_ylt=A0SO8zEuXQ9TGmkA7uVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0c DBrYml1BHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1NNRTMzOV8x?p= fracking+in+china


Oil companies begin 'fracking' in China’s most dangerous earthquake zone
Edited time: December 24, 2013

The Chinese want to join the shale gas revolution, even if it means drilling for oil in China’s earthquake hot bed in the Sichuan region, where nearly 70,000 died in an earthquake in 2008.

Royal Dutch Shell Plc and China National Petroleum have started 'fracking' operations in the province.

China hopes to boost annual shale gas production to 6.5 billion cubic meters by 2015, and reserves are estimated at about 1,115 trillion cubic feet, according to the US Energy Information Administration, higher than the estimated 665 trillion gas reserves on American soil.


Europe's largest oil company plans to invest $1 billion per year in China’s shale gas industry, as part of its goal to increase global output to four million barrels of oil and gas by 2017-2018, up from current levels of 3.3 million.

Drilling for oil in the Longmenshan mountain range, where India and Asia meet, could increase tremors in the already highly-sensitive area.

The hydraulic fracturing, or 'fracking' process of extracting oil from the earth is invasive and is believed by many to be a direct earthquake instigator.

Extraction by 'fracking' involves pumping millions of gallons of water and chemicals into the ground, which creates excess hydro waste, which over time, causes tectonic stress.

“We do detailed structural analysis as a routine part of our pre-drill evaluation,” Shi Jiangtao, a Shell spokesman in Beijing, said in an e-mail to Bloomberg. “This means that we evaluate the geology by using seismic, surface geology, nearby well data, etc.”

There is strong correlative evidence between deep underground wells and nearby earthquakes, both in the US and China.

An investigation by the US Geological Survey found that 'fracking' and quakes aren’t directly related, but noted, “at some locations the increase in seismicity coincides with the injection of wastewater in deep disposal wells.”

Human-induced earthquakes would be controversial in a region which experienced one of the deadliest earthquakes in China’s history, which killed nearly 70,000, including 5,335 school children in a 2008 quake in Wenchuan, Sichuan region.

more
http://rt.com/business/china-gas-shale-earthquake-895/

singular_me
1st March 2014, 08:14 AM
too busy to search, most likely the last posting (unless I can't help myself) I am posting in this thread
http://shalebubble.org/

The Reality

The Reality is that the so-called shale revolution is nothing more than a bubble, driven by record levels of drilling, speculative lease & flip practices on the part of shale energy companies, fee-driven promotion by the same investment banks that fomented the housing bubble, and by unsustainably low natural gas prices. Geological and economic constraints – not to mention the very serious environmental and health impacts of drilling – mean that shale gas and shale oil (tight oil) are far from the solution to our energy woes.

Diminishing Returns

Shale plays suffer from the law of diminishing returns. Wells experience severe rates of depletion, belying industry claims that wells will be in operation for 30-40 years. For example, the average depletion rate of wells in the Bakken Formation (the largest tight oil play in the US) is 69% in the first year and 94% over the first five years.

The Drilling Treadmill

This steep rate of depletion requires a frenetic pace of drilling, just to offset declines. Roughly 7,200 new shale gas wells need to be drilled each year at a cost of over $42 billion simply to maintain current levels of production. And as the most productive well locations are drilled first, it’s likely that drilling rates and costs will only increase as time goes on.

Unsustainable Prices

Wall Street promoted the shale gas drilling frenzy which resulted in prices lower than the cost of production and thereby profited [enormously] from mergers & acquisitions and other transactional fees. The oil and gas industry is now demonstrating reticence to engage in further shale investment, abandoning pipeline projects, IPOs and joint venture projects.

A Shale Bubble

As a result of these realities – high depletion rates, the need to drill ever more wells to maintain production, decreasingly productive wells as the best locations are drilled and depleted, and the higher prices required to justify this investment – our country will have drilled and fracked our way down a blind alley (with huge associated economic and environmental costs) for a short-lived energy boom.

also

The Fracking Boom: Hundred Years of (Self-)Deception
January 1, 2014 |
http://slowdownfracking.wordpress.com/2014/01/01/fracking_boom_deception/

singular_me
1st March 2014, 06:13 PM
i couldnt resist to post that one... stop buying bottled water!!

sorry folks when you see all the NWO elites either buying lands with huge aquifers or rush into water stocks but then we are told that water is getting scarce... draw your own conclusions.

-----------------------------
the Bush family has bought 100,000 acres in Paraguay that sits on the largest aquifer in the world
T. Boone Pickens bought a huge parcel of land in Texas sitting on an aquifer (North Texas Panhandle)
Pickens is taking advantage of Texas law that says if you can get to the water on your land, then it’s yours.
Pickens then used political influence to supply regions with water – of course they would have to come to him and pay for it!
there is suggestion that lithium will be added to water supply to “calm down” the public
there is no regulation on bottled water, and it is possible they could put lithium in bottled water
The Great Lakes are being depleted of water by a large bottled water manufacturer, and large quantities are being shipped to China
http://makeiteighteh.com/2011/01/10/canadian-water-war-crimes-and-the-worldwide-water-conspiracy/

--------------------
http://projectavalon.net/forum
the Bushies are just small fry in this, by the way... they only own about 95,000 acres. The big fish is the guy who put them on to this, Bush Sr's good buddy, Rev. Sun Yun Moon, who owns 1,482,600 acres, next door.

PS: Meanwhile Ted Turner is buying up property atop the US' aquifer. called the Ogallala (about as much water as Lake huron). He says it's to give the buffalo a nice home. Right!

The Ogallala Aquifer occupies the High Plains of the United States, extending northward from western Texas to South Dakota. The Ogallala is the leading geologic formation in what is known as the High Plains Aquifer System.
-------------------------
Ted Turner's Resource Grab Continues
Nov. 30, 2007

For the past 20 years, Ted Turner has been quietly buying up large chunks of the western United States. He has become the single largest landowner in North America with more than 2 million acres.

Now with his latest purchase in Mullen, Neb., Turner also has access to the Ogallala Aquifer -- the world's largest underground water system.

The Aquifer lies under parts of eight states in the Great Plains, and has enough water to cover the entire country to a depth of 2 feet. Turner owns land on top of major sections of the Aquifer, which could be a growing source of power in the water-starved West.

What Does He Want to Do With All That Water?

He's been called "Ted the Terrible" and the "Mouth of the South" and many question his motives.

No one knows what to expect next from the man who started CNN, bought the Atlanta Braves franchise, pledged to give $1 billion of his own fortune to the United Nations and is personally trying to restore North America's buffalo population to its level before the West was won.

"Some people are ascribing all kinds of motives to Ted. That he's going to control the water and therefore the rest of the state," said Turner biographer Porter Bibb. "This guy is utterly unpredictable. He's also a little bit bizarre."

His staff said their boss doesn't have a secret agenda -- he just wants to be a rancher and a conservationist. But each big buy only heightens the anxiety and gives rise to conspiracy theories, the most ominous of which hold that the swashbuckling Atlanta executive is bent on putting Nebraska ranchers and farmers out of business.

Not Everyone Is Happy ... more
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3935489

--------------------
The Ice Mountain Spring Water Bottling Factory is pumping hundreds of millions of gallons per year of Michigan water out of enormous bore hole deep wells — taking billions of dollars in corporate profit from water that belongs to the people of Michigan. We think this is wrong! We think Michigan water should not become the private property of a Swiss owned water mining factory. Ice Mountain Spring Water™ is a wholly owned division of Nestlé Waters North America, Inc. — which was formerly marketed as the Perrier Group of America Inc.

Report: Great Lakes can experience water shortages
TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. — Despite having more fresh water than anywhere else in the world, the Great Lakes region could experience shortages in some locations because of climate shifts or surging demand, a federal analysis says. The five-year study by the U.S. Geological Survey, obtained by The Associated Press ahead of its scheduled release Monday, describes the Great Lakes as an aquatic treasure trove. The lakes themselves have 6 quadrillion gallons — enough to spread a foot-deep layer across North America, South America and Africa — and the volume of groundwater surpasses that of Lake Huron.

http://wearemichigan.com/WorldWaterWars/UnitedStates/Michigan/index.htm

Serpo
1st March 2014, 06:35 PM
Haarp being used to finalize death of the San Joaquin Permalink (http://jimstonefreelance.com/sanjoaquin.html) After draining the dams on purpose was done by the "elite" to destroy the San Joaquin valley on purpose, Haarp is being used to finish the job with a real drought. San Joaquin destroyed on purpose? Read on, I have proof that this has been in the works for six years, long before Fukushima. (scroll down to see it in pictures if you don't have time to read a long article) There has been an effort by the elite to destroy the San Joaquin valley agricultural zone ongoing for about six years now. An article posted by Rense and others about the Haarp caused high pressure region which is blocking rain from falling in California strongly implies that this action is benign and only protecting us from Fukushima.
BULLSHIT FACT: There has been no drought in California for the last six years YET many of the orchards and prime agricultural zones have been intentionally killed via denial of water by the choice of the elite. This was caused by draining all the dams and flushing all the water out to the ocean ON PURPOSE. Here is what is really going on - The elite obviously want the San Joaquin gone from America's list of assets. The San Joaquin is a natural desert, which was only brought to life via irrigation projects and reservoirs. No "drought" can change this fact. Several people who are among the "elite", most notably Warren Buffet bought all the reservoirs, in violation of law (at least the original law the reservoirs were agreed to be built under) and drained them into the ocean rather than give the water to the farmers (which also violated the water contracts the farmers signed onto) in the name of an imported and not native fish called the Delta Smelt. These fish were brought into California around 100 years ago and are not natural to the area at all.
There has ALWAYS been plenty of water in California. The irrigation projects were vastly overbuilt and were more than enough to handle an extended drought, (which there in fact has not been despite claims) up until now. But once the elite got control of the dams, they simply opened the floodgates and sent all the collected water straight to the ocean down the San Joaquin river, causing a large amount of flooding and draining the water supply that California orchards and agriculture needs to survive. And they did it in the name of a fish that did not belong there anyway, an obvious act of war. Since the farmers subsequently did not get their water, a lie of drought was hatched in the ziopress, a lie laid waste by the rainfall chart that even Rense posted.
This was an act of war against the American people, launched by kike elitists to destroy America's most prime agricultural zone. Make no mistake, the Jews absolutely HATE America, and will be America's "friend" only to whatever extent it takes to deceive an ignorant populace long enough to have that populace stand idly by as America's greatest assets are WIPED OUT.
They hate America in reality, because Christian America stood up against tyranny and even wiped out the Jewish slave trade in America. The blacks were not enslaved by white Christians, they were in fact enslaved by Jewish slave lords. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvS0iPumTZE) And to this day, the heart of the global slave trade is run by Jews, in Israel. Obviously shutting down the slave trade snubbed their noses, but it was America's freedom, prosperity and technological achievenments they despised the most. Russia was their first victim in modern times and they failed Russia the same way they are now failing America.

But let's get back to the real issue - the San Joaquin water shortage which is completely intentional. This agricultural zone was far too much of an asset for America's conquerors to tolerate having around, so they just took control via government corruption afforded by rigged elections and shut off the water. Now there are hundreds of miles of dead orchards there, stretching as far as the eye can see. And the State mandates that the growers cut these dead orchards down, so six years into this war there are equally vast expanses of dead earth that were only a short time ago fertile orchards.
So when you hear MANY in the so called "truth movement" haarp all about how the San Joaquin died because of Fukushima, KNOW THE LIE. MANY IN THE "TRUTH MOVEMENT" HAVE EVOLVED INTO BEING THE ENEMY OF TRUTH. Let's PROVE IT RIGHT NOW, with a few pictures of the San Joaquin from MORE THAN A YEAR AGO, LONG before this so-called "drought" which happens to be Haarp caused and actually is real. REAL BUT IRRELEVEANT, THE SAN JOAQUIN IS ALREADY DEAD. http://polizeros.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/San-Joaquin-Vallay-dead-orchard.jpghttp://media.fresnobee.com/smedia/2014/01/18/17/35/TmcLe.AuSt.8.jpeghttp://beetlebabee.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/dead_orchards31.jpg
http://beetlebabee.wordpress.com/files/2009/06/dead_orchards2.jpg


Here is the California precipitation chart everyone is now quoting. Look at the history here, there have been plenty of other periods that were a little bit dry. And of course there were only five inches so far this year - WE ARE ONLY A MONTH AND A HALF INTO IT (Correction, the chart does not show based on julian year, it is a fiscal year ending in September. So it is indeed bad for 2014). But 5 months won't empty the dams like that, LOOK AT THE CHART BELOW, AND THEN TRY TO EXPLAIN THE FOLLOWING PHOTOS OF EMPTY DAMS. WHY ARE THEY EMPTY ALREADY, WHEN UP TO DEC OF 2013 THE RAIN WAS WITHIN A NORMAL RANGE? http://blogs-images.forbes.com/williampentland/files/2014/02/California-Drought-levels.jpg From the chart above, it is OBVIOUS there has been no drought. Even in 2010 and 2011 the ziopress talked all about how little rain California got, and the chart proves that those were both very wet years. The subsequent years were NOT BAD ENOUGH TO MAKE THE DAMS LOOK LIKE THIS: http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/52f2a9bd69bedd246167dd4d/these-california-drought-pictures-are-scary-and-its-only-getting-worse.jpghttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/23/article-2544531-1AE3EA9E00000578-696_964x641.jpg http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/Health/660/371/Cali_basin_drought.jpg?ve=1&tl=1http://blogs.kqed.org/newsfix/files/2014/01/11771383184_e259b2d9ab_o.jpg
The chart from Forbes PROVES: These orchards are NOT dead because of drought and the dams are NOT empty because of drought, they are empty because a few priviledged zionists chose to drain them so they can get America by the throat in a future catastrophe THEY ENGINEERED. The enemy would surely love to blame it on Fuku, DO NOT let a lack of knowledge draw you into that trap. http://www.rense.com/general96/satellite/weatherwest3.jpgThe photo to the left, which Rense posted clearly shows that Haarp is indeed being used to stop the rain from reaching California. But this is being done to create a real drought only AFTER the San Joaquin has been severely damaged from lack of water. 2011 gave the orchards another year, up until 2010 the farmers were able to pump wells to water the valley. But the wells went mostly dry by the end of 2010, and 2011 was a godsend because they had no other water, and were denied it from the reservoirs, water which they got from a very wet year that should have filled the reservoirs. I know, I WAS THERE DURING IT. It rained all the time and this saved the orchards. But after 2011, the orchards took a severe beating from being denied water during a normal precipitation year following a very wet year that should have filled the reservoirs, and this haarp blockage will no doubt be the final death sentence for the San Joaquin, because even if there is an agreement to save the orchards, the kikes already emptied the dams. There is no where to go now.

http://jimstonefreelance.com/

singular_me
1st March 2014, 07:05 PM
of course to add to the injury, we have HAARP.... the article you posted, Serpo, makes it blatant

------------------------------------------
now comes the insanity


Yemen, Gulf of Aden, population, just under 24 million, will, within a decade or thereabouts, run out of water.

They have all but exhausted their deep water wells and continue to drain them at a catastrophic rate....mostly due the introduction of 'commercial' growing of 'GAT' a chewable leaf that gives a euphoric/alert, yet relaxed high.

Farmers were growing grapes and other crops, mostly, but GAT proved to yeild a much higher price and sadly, with a high price to pay in the future (no water). GAT trees require an enormous amount of water to grow, one of the thirstiest plants known.

Also, one of the more serious issues related to the 'chewing of GAT' (side effect) is the huge amount of water the chewer's require, further compounding the water issue.

24 million people, soon to be without water and seriously addicted to GAT will, without doubt, bring more issues to the Middle East. This has the potential to bring about civil war if not war in the outlaying region.

http://www.greenprophet.com/2009/08/yemen-environment-gat-qat-drug/

singular_me
1st March 2014, 07:31 PM
this is too disgusting, I am sickened... have a 80+ page file about water depletion in the world so far. I think I will need a break before I start drafting my analysis

--------------------

June 7, 2013
Nestlé’s Wet Dream: They Mark Up Water 53 MILLION Percent (Update: Response From Nestlé)
The Global Water Grab
Nestle has virtually taken over the water supplies in parts of South Africa, Ethiopia, and Pakistan, leaving residents of those countries to sicken and die from what remains. Nestle has been deaf to pleas from affected villagers for access to clean water.

Perhaps that is because of their corporate belief that water is a commodity, not a basic human right.


All over the world, Nestle has been draining the water from financially beleaguered regions.

The technique Nestlé uses is this: Find an economically weak region, buy up the land surrounding the water source and grease the political wheels by making a proposal the residents can’t possibly refuse. How can depressed regions resist new jobs and added local revenue? But, the revenue generated by these regions natural resource by and large goes to a corporation headquartered in Lake Geneva, Switzerland. And if the financial incentives aren’t enough to assuage concerned citizens, Nestlé’s more than happy to battle it out in court. (source)

Just so that’s clear, they find places that are already struggling with poverty. Then, they make the poverty worse by damaging watersheds and wetlands, siphoning off hundreds of millions of gallons annually, and leaving the fields barren and dry. This isn’t something that is just happening in Third World countries. They’ve done it in our own backyards. Here are just a few examples of communities pillaged by Nestle:

Denver, Colorado
Sacramento, California
Fryeburg, Maine
Mecosta, Michigan

The small Canadian town of Hillsburgh, Ontario is Nestle’s most recent target. Nestle has permission to take 1.1 million liters of water per day from Hillsburgh’s aquifers, even during droughts. Initially, the province had set limits on the company’s ability to withdraw that amount during drought conditions, but after “negotiations” the Ministry of the Environment capitulated to Nestle’s demands that their water pumping not be restricted. Meanwhile, residents of the town are held to usage restrictions, as their grass turns brown and their gardens die.

very long
http://2012thebigpicture.wordpress.com/tag/aquifers/

mick silver
1st March 2014, 07:58 PM
some time ago the usa said by 2025 the will win wars by weather Modification ... HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) is a little-known, yet critically important U.S. military defense program which has generated quite a bit of controversy over the years in certain circles. Though denied by HAARP officials, some respected researchers allege that secret electromagnetic warfare capabilities of HAARP are designed to forward the US military’s stated goal (http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=45289) of achieving full-spectrum dominance by the year 2020. Others go so far as to claim that HAARP can and has been used for weather modification, to cause earthquakes and tsunamis, to disrupt global communications systems, and more.Major aspects of the program are kept secret for alleged reasons of “national security.” Yet there is no doubt that HAARP and electromagnetic weapons capable of being used in warfare do exist. According to the official HAARP website (http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/gen.html), “HAARP is a scientific endeavor aimed at studying the properties and behavior of the ionosphere, with particular emphasis on being able to understand and use it to enhance communications and surveillance systems for both civilian and defense purposes.” The ionosphere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionosphere) is the delicate upper layer of our atmosphere which ranges from about 30 miles (50 km) to 600 miles (1,000 km) above the surface of the Earth.The HAARP website acknowledges (http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/gen.html) that experiments are conducted which use electromagnetic frequencies to fire pulsed, directed energy beams in order to “temporarily excite a limited area of the ionosphere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionosphere).” Some scientists state that purposefully disturbing this sensitive layer could have major and even disastrous consequences. Concerned HAARP researchers like Dr. Michel Chossudovsky (http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO201A.html) of the University of Ottawa and Alaska’s Dr. Nick Begich (http://www.earthpulse.com/src/category.asp?catid=13) (son of a US Congressman) present evidence suggesting that these disturbances can even cause tsunamis and earthquakes.Two key major media documentaries, one by Canada’s public broadcasting network CBC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBC) and the other by the History Channel, reveal the inner workings of HAARP in a most powerful way. The very well researched CBC documentary includes this key quote:
“It isn’t just conspiracy theorists who are concerned about HAARP. In January of 1999, the European Union called the project a global concern and passed a resolution calling for more information on its health and environmental risks. Despite those concerns, officials at HAARP insist the project is nothing more sinister than a radio science research facility.”
To view the European Union (EU) document which brings HAARP and similar electromagnetic weapons (http://www.wanttoknow.info/050812electromagneticbeamweapons) into question, click here (http://www.europarl.europa.eu/pv2/pv2?PRG=DOCPV&APP=PV2&DATE=280199&DATEF=990128&TPV=DEF&TYPEF=A4&POS=1&SDOCTA=8&TXTLST=1&Type_Doc=RESOL&PrgPrev=TYPEF@A4|PRG@QUERY|APP@PV2|FILE@BIBLIO99|N UMERO@5|YEAR@99|PLAGE@1&LANGUE=EN). The actual wording at bullet point 24 in this telling document states that the EU “considers HAARP by virtue of its far-reaching impact on the environment to be a global concern and calls for its legal, ecological and ethical implications to be examined by an international independent body before any further research and testing.” This reveling document further states that the EU regrets the repeated refusal of the U.S. government to send anyone to give evidence on HAARP.To watch this engaging 15-minute CBC documentary online, click here (http://www.personalgrowthcourses.net/video/haarp_video_documentary). For an even more detailed and revealing 45-minute History Channel documentary on HAARP and other secret weapons used for electromagnetic warfare, click here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4515534125267138757). Below are two quotes from the History Channel documentary:
“Electromagnetic weapons … pack an invisible wallop hundreds of times more powerful than the electrical current in a lightning bolt. One can blast enemy missiles out of the sky, another could be used to blind soldiers on the battlefield, still another to control an unruly crowd by burning the surface of their skin. If detonated over a large city, an electromagnetic weapon could destroy all electronics in seconds. They all use directed energy to create a powerful electromagnetic pulse.”
“Directed energy is such a powerful technology it could be used to heat the ionosphere to turn weather into a weapon of war. Imagine using a flood to destroy a city or tornadoes to decimate an approaching army in the desert. The military has spent a huge amount of time on weather modification as a concept for battle environments. If an electromagnetic pulse went off over a city, basically all the electronic things in your home would wink and go out, and they would be permanently destroyed.”
For those who still doubt that such devastating secret weapons have been developed, here is an intriguing quote from an article (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?ObjectID=14727) in New Zealand’s leading newspaper, the New Zealand Herald:
“Top-secret wartime experiments were conducted off the coast of Auckland to perfect a tidal wave bomb, declassified files reveal. United States defence chiefs said that if the project had been completed before the end of the war, it could have played a role as effective as that of the atom bomb. Details of the tsunami bomb, known as Project Seal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Seal), are contained in 53-year-old documents released by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade.”
If the military secretly developed a weapon which could cause a tsunami over half a century ago, what kind of advanced deadly weapons might be available now? And why is it that the general public still doesn’t know about secret weapons developed over 50 years ago? To understand why the media isn’t covering these highly critical issues, click here (http://www.wanttoknow.info/mediacover-up). Clearly the military has the capability to cause a tsunami and likely to cause earthquakes and hurricanes, as well. It’s time for us to take action to spread the word on this vital topic.Having interpreted to for top generals in my work as a language interpreter (http://www.wanttoknow.info/050418fredburksinterpretingstories) with the US Department of State, I learned that military planners are always interested in developing the most devastating weapons possible. Yet these weapons are kept secret as long as possible, allegedly for reasons of national security. The many layers of intense secrecy both in the military and government result in very few people being aware of the gruesome capabilities for death and destruction that have been developed over the years. There are many examples of major defense projects kept successfully out of the public’s eyes for years and even decades.The massive Manhattan Project (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_project) (development of the first atomic bomb) is one such example. The building of an entire city to support the project in Oak Ridge, Tennessee was successfully kept secret (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_project#Project_sites) even from the state’s governor. The stealth bomber was kept top secret for many years, and the public still has no way of knowing it’s full capabilities. It is through the use of the highly organized military and intelligence services that the power elite (http://www.wanttoknow.info/secretsocietiesnewsarticles) of our world, working in cooperation with key allies in government and corporate ownership of the media, are able to carry out major cover-ups and secret operations like those involved with HAARP.Some researchers have raised questions about the possible involvement (http://montalk.net/conspiracy/142/haarp-earthquakes-and-hurricanes) of HAARP in major disasters like the earthquake in Haiti, Indonesian tsunami, and hurricane Katrina. Could these have been HAARP experiments gone awry? Might they even have been caused by rogue elements which gained control of this devastating technology. Of course disasters like this happen regularly on a natural basis, yet if you begin to research, there is some high strangeness around some of these disasters. The evidence is inconclusive, yet with the known and unknown major destructive capabilities of this weapon, serious questions remain.Jesse Ventura, the former Navy Seal who turned pro wrestler only to then become governor of Minnesota, has also done a special on HAARP that is a bit sensationalized, yet contains useful information. You can watch this special on YouTube at this link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh2gbJA898s).

mick silver
1st March 2014, 08:03 PM
http://arizonaskywatch.com/articles/articles/HAARP%20Wars3_files/image010.jpg

FreeEnergy
3rd March 2014, 10:58 AM
:rolleyes: never any water problems in Germany
[/CENTER]

nice pics, I've got a bunch of others to add about serious fresh water losses in Europe. Europe is the best to analyze because you can see where castles were built. And if you don't listen to (mostly uneducated) guide or ask the right questions, you may uncover SERIOUS SHIT.

Examples:

Eltz Castle. Built in 1000 AD on a rock surrounded by a river.
Does this look like a river?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/Wierschem%2C_Burg_Eltz%2C_2012-08_CN-01.jpg/640px-Wierschem%2C_Burg_Eltz%2C_2012-08_CN-01.jpg

Cochem, Germany. Panoramic View. On the right you see a castle build in the past. Watch it closely, at that time RIVER on that picture was near castle's wall. Buildings at the bottom and riverbank are all new, couldn't have been there 500 years ago. How much water is lost here? There must be a 50 meters, 165 ft drop now.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a8/Panorama_Cochem.jpg/1024px-Panorama_Cochem.jpg

This can be watched throughout Germany, Italy, you name it Europe with old castles.

What are THEY hiding?

FreeEnergy
3rd March 2014, 11:10 AM
Here's more pictures of Reichsburg, Germany, that castle above:

http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/108718/01_dsc_0123_1m800.jpg

Here's some clues:

http://images.travelpod.com/users/jeffandmarie/seatoauckland.1133219520.0870_statue_reichsburg_ca stle_cochem.jpg

Those names above, Cochem, Eltz.... don't sound german at all , sound like hebrew.

Jewboo
3rd March 2014, 11:23 AM
What are THEY hiding?




http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/eunewlnd.gif

http://climateknowledge.org/figures/WuGblog_figures/RBRWuG0059_water_cycle_usgs_big.jpg


Those tall piles of rock called "mountains" store ice and snow. Germany has them. Texas doesn't.


:rolleyes:

FreeEnergy
3rd March 2014, 11:25 AM
Mountains, there or not, look at the lost 100-200 FEET from river bed - that's how much water LOST IN VOLUME? on those pictures.


3 weeks drought where?

Jewboo
3rd March 2014, 11:31 AM
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/images/german-water-bridge.jpg
Bridge in Germany
http://www.dw-world.de/image/0,,985755_4,00.jpg
Bridge in Germany

http://www.texasescapes.com/TexasTowns/KnoxCityTexas/KnoxCountyTx1939ThruTrussBridge1208BG4.jpg
Bridge in Texas


:D


http://swiss-landmarks.ch/panos/Lake-Constance-in-Winter.jpg


Lake Constance (German (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_language): Bodensee) is a lake on the Rhine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhine) at the northern foot of the Alps (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alps), and consists of three bodies of water (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_of_water): the Obersee ("upper lake"), the Untersee ("lower lake"), and a connecting stretch of the Rhine, called the Seerhein.

The lake is situated in Germany (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany), Switzerland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland) and Austria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria) near the Alps. Specifically, its shorelines lie in the German federal states (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_states_of_Germany) of Bavaria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavaria) and Baden-Württemberg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baden-W%C3%BCrttemberg), the Austrian federal state (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_Austria) of Vorarlberg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorarlberg), and the Swiss cantons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantons_of_Switzerland) of Thurgau (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurgau) and St. Gallen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canton_of_St._Gallen). The Rhine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhine) flows into it from the south following the Austro-Swiss frontier.
Lake Constance was first mentioned by the Roman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Empire) geographer Pomponius Mela (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomponius_Mela) about 43 AD. He noted that the Rhine flows through two lakes, and gave them the Latin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_language) names Lacus Venetus (Obersee) and Lacus Acronius (Untersee). Pliny the Elder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pliny_the_Elder) used the name Lacus Brigantinus, after the Roman city of Brigantium (today Bregenz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bregenz)). The lake is also colloquially known as the Swabian Sea[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Constance#cite_note-1) (das schwäbische Meer).
The freshwater (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freshwater) lake sits at 395 m (1,296 ft) above sea level (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level) and is Central Europe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe)'s third largest, after Lake Balaton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Balaton) and Lake Geneva (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Geneva). It is 63 km (39 mi) long, and at its widest point, nearly 14 km (8.7 mi). It covers approximately 571 km2 (220 sq mi) of total area.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Constance#cite_note-2) The greatest depth is 252 metres (827 ft) in the middle of the eastern part (Obersee). Its volume is approximately 1e10 m3 (1.3×1010 cu yd). The lake has four parts: the main section, called Obersee, 476 km2 (184 sq mi); the north section, Überlinger See, 61 km2 (24 sq mi); the west section, Untersee, 63 km2 (24 sq mi); and the northwest section, the Zeller See and Gnadensee. The regulated Rhine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhine) flows into the lake in the southeast, through the Obersee, the city of Konstanz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstanz) and the Untersee and flows out near Stein am Rhein (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stein_am_Rhein). Lake Constance provides fresh water to many cities in south Germany (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany).

FreeEnergy
3rd March 2014, 12:37 PM
The fist to pictures just tell ya how low natural river level felt in Germany, that it was cheaper to build a bridge/channel crossing it instead of just join this channel into a river below. Makes sense?


Roman aqueduct. I know people just study and look instead of seeing. How low is water level now? and why this had to be constructed TWICE over the centuries? And second one is still above the river level by what, 100 feet, more?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Pont_du_Gard_Oct_2007.jpg

Priceless. Where's water?

http://costablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/nerja_aqueduct.jpg

http://classes.colgate.edu/osafi/images/ronda%20bridge%20roman.jpg

This is HISTORY CHANGING PICTURES, if you think about it.
Example. Why is Rome 40 minutes drive from the Sea, when all other capitals are ON the sea? Because it WAS on the sea when it was built.


This is happening all over the world, NOW. Where's the FRESH water?

FreeEnergy
3rd March 2014, 12:47 PM
Droughts in China:



China's Yangtze river closed to ships by severe drought

The Yangtze river, the longest waterway in Asia and China's most important shipping route, has been closed by the worst drought in 50 years that has left cargo ships stranded and 400,000 people without drinking water.

By Peter Foster, Beijing
2:26PM BST 12 May 2011
Water-levels have sunk as low as 10ft in the main thoroughfare of the 3,900-mile long river that stretches from the glaciers of the Tibetan plateau to the coastal city of Shanghai.

The Yangtze river basin is home to one-third of China's population and is responsible for 40 per cent of the country's economic growth.

Emergency teams have been sent to the river's middle reaches around Wuhan in the central province of Hubei, to rescue two ships that have been grounded in the past week and help any others that become stranded.

The river's management office has now closed a 140-mile stretch of the river above Wuhan to ocean-going vessels because of the shallow water.

It also said the river is 160 feet narrower in key sections than it was last year.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8509516/Chinas-Yangtze-river-closed-to-ships-by-severe-drought.html


Another of Chinese dried rivers:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20130219/d4bed9d4d220128d1f4a08.jpg

FreeEnergy
3rd March 2014, 12:51 PM
Russian Narva River. Look at the castle, it is easily 50 meters (165 ft?) above river level. Nobody built castles like that, they were aways ON THE WATER, water was part of the defense.

http://balticworlds.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/narva-bridge.jpg

Narva Railway Bridge, from Wiki:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Narva_railway_bridge.jpg

Tell me how much fresh water is lost here.

singular_me
3rd March 2014, 06:49 PM
the point with that water to replenish itself needs to evaporate and turn into clouds again. And when the water is dead by pollution the the cycle is broken. LIVING water is what makes its 'magic' so to speak... global warming, my butt! we have a severe pollution and HAARP induced problem

it doesnt matter as to whether the water comes from aquifers or icy mountains...




[/CENTER]
Those tall piles of rock called "mountains" store ice and snow. Germany has them. Texas doesn't.


:rolleyes:

Jewboo
3rd March 2014, 08:58 PM
...the point with that water to replenish itself needs to evaporate and turn into clouds again.






http://www.zastavki.com/pictures/originals/2013/Nature__039219_.jpg





http://www.canarypools.com/Mountain%20Springs/Mountain%20Springs%20Spas%2010_files/mountains.jpg


My point exactly. Places that are not annually fed by snow-capped mountain ranges must drill down to an aquifer. Places like Los Angeles and Phoenix are not sustainable. There is no water "shortage" in places like Germany.



http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/02/bb/28/c8/tauern-spa.jpg


Pollution is annually WASHED AWAY downstream in places like Germany.

http://smileys.smilchat.net/smiley/sea/playa0.gif