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Ares
24th February 2014, 08:32 AM
America's ruling class has been experiencing more pushback than usual lately. It just might be a harbinger of things to come.
First, in response to widespread protests last week, the Department of Homeland Security canceled plans to build a nationwide license plate database. Many local police departments already use license-plate readers that track every car as it passes traffic signals or pole-mounted cameras. Specially equipped police cars even track cars parked on the street or even in driveways.
The DHS put out a bid request for a system that would have gone national, letting the federal government track millions of people's comings and goings just as it tracks data about every phone call we make. But the proposal was suddenly withdrawn last week, with the unconvincing explanation that it was all a mistake. I'm inclined to agree with TechDirt's Tim Cushing, who wrote: "The most plausible explanation is that someone up top at the DHS or ICE suddenly realized that publicly calling for bids on a nationwide surveillance system while nationwide surveillance systems are being hotly debated was ... a horrible idea."
On Friday, after more public outrage, the Federal Communications Commission withdrew a plan to "monitor" news coverage at not only broadcast stations, but also at print publications that the FCC has no authority to regulate. The "Multi-Market Study of Critical Information Needs," or CIN (pronounced "sin") involved the FCC sending people to question reporters and editors about why they chose to run particular stories. Many folks in and out of the media found it Orwellian.
How this program appeared was, like the DHS program, a bit of a mystery: FCC Commissioner Ajit Pai said: "This has never been put to an FCC vote; it was just announced." But the blowback was sufficient to stop it for now.
Meanwhile, in Connecticut a massive new gun-registration scheme is also facing civil disobedience. As J.D. Tuccille reports: "Three years ago, the Connecticut legislature estimated there were 372,000 rifles in the state of the sort that might be classified as 'assault weapons,' and 2 million plus high-capacity magazines. ... But by the close of registration at the end of 2013, state officials received around 50,000 applications for 'assault weapon' registrations, and 38,000 applications for magazines."
This is more "Irish Democracy," passive resistance to government overreach. The Hartford (Conn.) Courant is demanding that the state use background-check records to prosecute those who haven't registered, but the state doesn't have the resources and it's doubtful juries would convict ordinary, law-abiding people for failure to file some paperwork.
Though people have taken to the streets from Egypt, to Ukraine, to Venezuela to Thailand, many have wondered whether Americans would ever resist the increasing encroachments on their freedom. I think they've begun.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/02/23/license-plates-guns-news-federal-government-column/5759933/
Celtic Rogue
24th February 2014, 08:59 AM
Here is our turn...
http://www.operationamericanspring.org/forum/forumdisplay.php/10-Operation-Discussions?
OPERATION AMERICAN SPRING - Washington, D.C. in the cross-hairs - The Out-of-Control Government Leadership Must Be Stopped
OAS
(Please add the above title and some or all data from below to your FB, Twitter, Blog, Email list)
To: Patriots (black, white, red, yellow, brown, male, female, civilian, military, truckers, bikers, militias, veterans, old, young, every American that loves freedom and liberty)
Mission: Restoration of Constitutional government, rule of law, freedom, liberty "of the people, for the people, by the people" from despotic and tyrannical federal leadership.
Assumptions:
Millions of Americans will participate.
American veterans and patriots are energized to end the tyranny, lawlessness, and shredding of the US Constitution.
Government is not the target, it is sound; corrupt and criminal leadership must be removed.
Those in power will not hesitate to use force against unarmed, peaceful patriots exercising their constitutional rights.
Patriots may be killed, wounded, incarcerated.
There is no hope given today’s technology of secrecy for the effort nor do we want it secret.
Concept of Operations:
Phase 1 - Field millions, as many as ten million, patriots who will assemble in a peaceful, non-violent, physically unarmed (Spiritually/Constitutionally armed), display of unswerving loyalty to the US Constitution and against the incumbent government leadership, in Washington, D.C., with the mission to bring down the existing leadership. Go full-bore, no looking back, steadfast in the mission.
Phase 2 - One million or more of the assembled 10 million must be prepared to stay in D.C. as long as it takes to see Obama, Biden, Reid, McConnell, Boehner, Pelosi, and Attorney General Holder removed from office.
Consistent with the US Constitution, as required, the U.S. Congress will take appropriate action, execute appropriate legislation, deal with vacancies, or U.S. States will appoint replacements for positions vacated consistent with established constitutional requirements.
As required, the U.S. Congress will execute appropriate legislation to convene new elections or U.S. States will appoint replacements for positions vacated consistent with established constitutional requirements.
Phase 3 – Those with the principles of a West, Cruz, Dr. Ben Carson, Lee, DeMint, Paul, Gov. Walker, Sessions, Gowdy, Jordan, should comprise a tribunal and assume positions of authority to convene investigations, recommend appropriate charges against politicians and government employees to the new U.S. Attorney General appointed by the new President.
*All actions in Phase 2 & 3 will be consistent with the U.S. Constitution.
Date of Operation: “OPERATION AMERICAN SPRING – Beginning Of Tyranny Housecleaning, May 16, 2014, completion to be determined.
We are past the point of no return, thus must move forward with an effort to save our nation, as there is no other choice. We are asking, pleading with you, and any others that have resources, national voices, email lists, blogs, FB, Twitter, to call for a non-violent American Spring May 16 2014 in Washington D.C. We must appeal to ten million and more American patriots to come and stay in Washington, D.C. to stop the White House and Congress from total destruction of the United States. It’s now or never. God help us.
.....the law of nature rules. A fluffy, cuddly lamb gets eaten by a mean old wolf is not an illegal or immoral event...the law of nature. When some greedy, self-serving occupant of the White House or Congress, or elements outside America, is threatening our existence, our freedom, our liberty, our Constitution, our life resources, our America, then we fight back to destroy the threat and there is nothing immoral or illegal about it. When the government becomes lawless, then "we the people" no longer are obligated to follow the government...... there is no law when government picks and chooses for political purposes or personal agenda. At this time the government is performing as a lawless entity......
A duck cannot be turned into a fox; an elephant cannot be turned into a flea; the laws of nature will not permit.
Likewise, a nation ordained and principled by the laws of nature, sovereign, free, with liberty for all cannot naturally become a nation guided by royalty, decrees, tyranny, elitist, self-serving criminals. The former has proven desirable, the latter has proven human pain.
“We can become a nation guided by royalty IF "we the people" beguiled by the government in surrender to our lusts for that which we have not earned -- for what is not natural -- if we have become intoxicated by unbroken success" as Lincoln proclaimed in March 30 ,1863 call for fasting, humiliation, and prayer -- we can very easily heap to ourselves leaders, and with itching ears, be turned from the Truth to become enslaved by the LIE.”
The United States of America (elephant) while embracing the "LIE" is teetering on the abyss of becoming a sniveling, blood sucking, undesirable nation (flea).
OPERATION AMERICAN SPRING will be a gigantic step in removing the flea infestation that is sucking the blood out of America.
We see no reasonable, hopeful sign that indicates there are honorable, loyal, mature, critical thinking, experienced people in government that understands the chaos about to rain down on America, nor do they care.... our only hope is that "we the people" call, organize, and draw a few million patriots to stay in D.C. for an "American Spring". It would be the catalyst to draw the line and bring to a conclusion a decision on the out of control government, one way or the other. America will rise up or surrender......... for me, I only go to my knees in the presence of God Almighty........... my knees will not touch the surface as a result of some piss ant occupant of the White House or a corrupt legislator, or outside element...I will fall to my death standing if necessary.
There is not much time and the only planning necessary is to select a starting date, which we have done, and then show up in Washington, D.C. on that date, and plan to stay for the duration. The goal is restoring the US Constitution as the law of the land, removing the lawless leadership. Will this be a cake-walk? No, it will be painful, and some people may die because the government will not be non-violent; some of us will end up in a cell, and some may be injured. If that’s what it will take to save our nation, do we have any choice? Freedom loving Americans will say there is no choice, we must begin the second American Revolution. Not with guns, but with millions of Americans demanding a return to constitutional government and the resignation of Obama, Biden, Reid, McConnell, Boehner, Pelosi, and Holder as a start...then the constitutional restoration process can begin. An AMERICAN SPRING can be avoided only if the above mentioned officials resign.
Will our national patriot leaders step forward and declare, “send me”, I’ll lead? There are millions of veterans and patriots ready to follow and have said “I will go”.
I urge all organizations, groups, particularly veterans and military retirees begin planning to visit Washington, D.C beginning May 16, 2014. Keep tuned for updates and guidance.
Please bathe this effort in prayer as there is no personal agenda or gain save liberty, freedom, and restoration of constitutional government for "we the people".
Harry Riley, COL, USA, Ret
Jewboo
24th February 2014, 09:34 AM
Concept of Operations:
Phase 1 - Field millions, as many as ten million, patriots who will assemble in a peaceful, non-violent, physically unarmed (Spiritually/Constitutionally armed), display of unswerving loyalty to the US Constitution and against the incumbent government leadership, in Washington, D.C., with the mission to bring down the existing leadership. Go full-bore, no looking back, steadfast in the mission.
Go full-bore but leave your gun at home...lol.
Hatha Sunahara
24th February 2014, 09:44 AM
Why make a huge effort to demonstrate resistance. Wouldn't it be a lot easier and more effective to call a national strike? Set a date where everybody stays home. Call in sick to work. Make sure you have at least 3 days of stuff you need like food and gasoline, and then stay home and do nothing. Turn off the TV. Catch up on work you have to do in your house. Take a break. Refresh yourself. Just take three or five days to leave the system and do nothing to support it. Get some practice in behaviors that will make the authorities powerless. They can't order you to do anything. If you want to demonstrate, make a short statement on your telephone greeting when you miss a call. Don't answer the phone. Resistance doesn't have to be 'in your face'. Passive resistance is a lot safer and much easier. Even the cops can participate. Plus, it is a lot easier to organize. All that is necessary is a date and a set of instructions on what to do and what not to do. That can be easily communicated over the Internet. It can be local and it can be national. There will be no one taking pictures, making lists, or even threatening people with consequences. If employers threaten to fire people, they may have to fire all their employees. A national shutdown will be far more effective than facing off with the cops and risking being shot with their billions of rounds of ammunition. You can get the point across without any effort or violence. I would follow people who organize this kind of protest. It would be interesting to see how the MSM handles it.
Hatha
Ares
24th February 2014, 09:57 AM
Go full-bore but leave your gun at home...lol.
Yeah I caught the irony too. I just have to laugh at people who think they are going to change anything through non-violence. Governments only recognize force. They may of taken your rights and liberty through the pen, but you'll have reclaim them with the sword.
Celtic Rogue
24th February 2014, 10:07 AM
If the movement went in blazing guns many people would be hurt and public opinion is lost.
But if you first try and do the right thing more people may see what you are doing is just.
This is of PRIME importance. Because you can not ever lose the support of the people.... or you have lost before you begin.
Then if the govt acts like a bad ass. The gloves and veil of civility would be off!
If this group can get the numbers they are saying they can ... This would successfully shut DC down. Back in the May Day Riots in DC a small group of college kids was sort of successful in changing the way Washington DC did business.
Imagine millions as opposed to thousands.
This is also a great way to expose this government for what it is if they react to these protesters the way I think they will.
mick silver
24th February 2014, 10:17 AM
they keep closing the door , more rules more laws . people are getting sick of being told how to live . i am seeing more talking about what the gov doing an not doing , even in hillybilly land people are waking up fast . i have been going back to old files i got from members from the old gim dam what a wake up call just going back to when i started seeing the shit we are all seeing an living now
Celtic Rogue
24th February 2014, 10:23 AM
I too think a National Strike would work too. But unless or until you get the masses behind you its a futile gesture. However this mass protest would be one of the largest demonstrations against the governments actions since the Vietnam war. And those demonstrations were in the hundreds of thousands. If they can get and keep the millions of people motivated to stay there until the people in office resign or they the protesters are physically removed. Then this is a great visual that should be broadcast all around the country and world... But will it? Probably not or spun to make the protester patriots look like terrorist or hooligans! I hope and believe that this is a good step towards doing something and not just standing by.
Ares
24th February 2014, 10:29 AM
I too think a National Strike would work too. But unless or until you get the masses behind you its a futile gesture. However this mass protest would be one of the largest demonstrations against the governments actions since the Vietnam war. And those demonstrations were in the hundreds of thousands. If they can get and keep the millions of people motivated to stay there until the people in office resign or they the protesters are physically removed. Then this is a great visual that should be broadcast all around the country and world... But will it? Probably not or spun to make the protester patriots look like terrorist or hooligans! I hope and believe that this is a good step towards doing something and not just standing by.
Don't think that will work either. It was tried back in 1932. The name they called themselves was "The Bonus Army (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army)". Basically the government promised them a bonus to fight in the war (World War I). They reneged and didn't pay the money they were owed.
This was the result of confrontation:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Evictbonusarmy.jpg/250px-Evictbonusarmy.jpg
I would expect no different and far more devastation today.
Celtic Rogue
24th February 2014, 10:51 AM
That group wasnt very large.... and the internet wasnt around to spread the word quickly enough to help these cheated vets.
Today things are different somewhat ... besides... what do you propose?
I see you think its not going to work... but I dont see any ideas from you that might help end this nightmare.
This is our biggest flaw. We all try and armchair speculate the outcome of any event and act like we are somehow we all know everything will fail. Well I say something has to be tried. This has a lot of good people motivated to do something...anything.
The People are finding their voice and when they do I pity anyone in their way!
It might fail... but it might be a spring board to a larger movement.
EE_
24th February 2014, 11:06 AM
Yeah I caught the irony too. I just have to laugh at people who think they are going to change anything through non-violence. Governments only recognize force. They may of taken your rights and liberty through the pen, but you'll have reclaim them with the sword.
Too bad we can't really discuss this...
Every law is enforced/forced on you at the barrel of a gun, with the threat of death.
They will destroy, bankrupt and kill anyone that doesn't go along with their program.
Only a fool thinks they can take back their rights with a non-violent protest.
Ares
24th February 2014, 11:10 AM
That group wasnt very large.... and the internet wasnt around to spread the word quickly enough to help these cheated vets.
Today things are different somewhat ... besides... what do you propose?
I see you think its not going to work... but I dont see any ideas from you that might help end this nightmare.
This is our biggest flaw. We all try and armchair speculate the outcome of any event and act like we are somehow we all know everything will fail. Well I say something has to be tried. This has a lot of good people motivated to do something...anything.
The People are finding their voice and when they do I pity anyone in their way!
It might fail... but it might be a spring board to a larger movement.
My solution has been the same since I was first asked what do you propose.. Outright rebellion. Yeah I know, it's not popular, no one wants to get hurt, dirty, or even contemplate what it means to sacrifice. But you can't honestly believe that this group of psychopaths are going to see a bunch of people protesting and say, "yeah you know they're right, we should just give up all this power that's taken us a century to accumulate."
Somehow I don't think that's going to happen.
mick silver
24th February 2014, 11:13 AM
i feel the same way ares but it need to start small then it will take off from there . they have killed more then most will ever dream for the power they have taken
Ares
24th February 2014, 11:14 AM
Too bad we can't really discuss this...
Every law is enforced/forced on you at the barrel of a gun, with the threat of death.
They will destroy, bankrupt and kill anyone that doesn't go along with their program.
Only a fool thinks they can take back their rights with a non-violent protest.
My gut feeling is they are the ones that sponsor and fund those advocating non-violence as they know it won't accomplish jack shit. Look at Ukraine, Kiev in particular, and the other countries where people rose up and took on the cops and the state under the threat of force. They were able to accomplish a lot, because they risked a lot, those who risk little gain nothing. Non-violent protest is a sham, and will only accomplish a goal of getting people together in numbers. Don't think the surveillance state won't take notes of who attends either.
Ares
24th February 2014, 11:19 AM
i feel the same way ares but it need to start small then it will take off from there . they have killed more then most will ever dream for the power they have taken
This type of resentment that the population is expressing has been boiling below the surface for years though. Probably since the early to mid 1990's at least from my memory. Maybe longer. Most still do not know who to blame (Zionist Jews), they still believe that government is their "protector" and view it as working incorrectly because of Obama. They'll have no problem instituting new government with the same shitty safe guards, give the fox the keys to the hen house and go back to watching T.V.
My point is that it's been "starting small" since the 70's protest against the Vietnam war. I guess my fear is that the population will be placated by whatever small concessions this ZOG will give them to save their own asses.
Ponce
24th February 2014, 11:37 AM
Nothing has happened till the first shot has been fired....... there will be no freedom with only words.
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Rubicon
24th February 2014, 12:32 PM
To: Patriots (black, white, red, yellow, brown, male, female, civilian, military, truckers, bikers, militias, veterans, old, young, every American that loves freedom and liberty)
Instant Fail.
Jewboo
24th February 2014, 12:50 PM
If this group can get the numbers they are saying they can ...Imagine millions as opposed to thousands.
They can wear their stylish OCCUPY WALL STREET and TEA PARTY tee shirts...........................................a gain.
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.5240.1313647794!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_350250/halloween-costumes-ripped-headlines-gop-teabagger.jpg
http://blog.oregonlive.com/politics_impact/2009/04/pl.taxday.272.cdb.jpg
http://verbumsapienti.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/tea-party02.jpg
:rolleyes:
Cebu_4_2
24th February 2014, 07:15 PM
http://verbumsapienti.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/tea-party02.jpg
Isn't this the guy from Sandy Hook?
Blink
24th February 2014, 07:27 PM
It just makes yah wonder. When you read history on events in places like Cambodia/Russia(USSR)/Chile/Central America/China where the population let evil totally f*ck them over, you have to ask, is America and it's "allies" headed for the same "type of" chapter in the future's history book? There are no jungles to hide in around here where todays technology can't find you, so, is it a given that we will submissively give in to a sadistic existence of slavedom? This slow systematic dismantling of our rights/liberties/freedoms is the crucial part of the takeover. Slow and steady wins the race........
Cebu_4_2
24th February 2014, 07:35 PM
Seems to me it's going faster and more sloppy then they might intend.
Ares
25th February 2014, 07:04 AM
It just makes yah wonder. When you read history on events in places like Cambodia/Russia(USSR)/Chile/Central America/China where the population let evil totally f*ck them over, you have to ask, is America and it's "allies" headed for the same "type of" chapter in the future's history book? There are no jungles to hide in around here where todays technology can't find you, so, is it a given that we will submissively give in to a sadistic existence of slavedom? This slow systematic dismantling of our rights/liberties/freedoms is the crucial part of the takeover. Slow and steady wins the race........
Nope, no jungles.... BUT.... There are 2 large mountain ranges in the U.S. that are problematic for finding people. Afghanistan taught us that. Tanks are useless in mountain terrain so are most vehicles other than air support. It leaves it more even when you can negate the enemies superior armor and transportation. There is always a weakness, just have to find it and exploit it.
Hatha Sunahara
26th February 2014, 06:50 PM
As long as people are divided, they are conquered. 80% or more of the people in America are sheeple. They believe the government is protecting us from 'enemies'. They regard people who object to overreach by the government as 'enemies'. If you want a demonstration of how divided America is, ask anyone how they feel about constitutionalists, or 'sovereigns' or Anarchists. It's ironic that people who believe the Constitution is the supreme law of the land are the enemies of the state.
There won't be any effective lifting of the tyranny that is descending upon us all until a majority of the population start educating themselves and stop believing lies. It looks like that will not happen any time soon.
Hatha
mick silver
26th February 2014, 06:56 PM
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j186/DonaldDouglas/American/The_Amateur_zps1ef22676.jpghttp://conservatives4palin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Feinstein-Cartoon.jpghttp://www.naturalnews.com/cartoons/Guns-Are-Bad-600.jpg
Jewboo
26th February 2014, 07:06 PM
Nope, no jungles.... BUT.... There are 2 large mountain ranges in the U.S. that are problematic for finding people. Afghanistan taught us that. Tanks are useless in mountain terrain so are most vehicles other than air support. It leaves it more even when you can negate the enemies superior armor and transportation. There is always a weakness, just have to find it and exploit it.
http://legacymedia.localworld.co.uk/275834/Article/images/17198694/4262023.jpghttp://content.met.police.uk/cs/Satellite?blobcol=urldata&blobheadername1=Content-Type&blobheadervalue1=image%2Fjpeg&blobkey=id&blobtable=MungoBlobs&blobwhere=1283565901375&ssbinary=truehttp://i2.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article3182278.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/West-Midlands-Police-helicopter-stills-from-thermal-imaging-camera-3182278.jpg
1) This is 2014 and you can't hide in the hills anymore.
2) Most Americans are too fat and lazy to even climb a hill let alone live in the mountains.
:rolleyes: you watched Red Dawn too many times...lol.
Ares
26th February 2014, 07:26 PM
http://legacymedia.localworld.co.uk/275834/Article/images/17198694/4262023.jpghttp://content.met.police.uk/cs/Satellite?blobcol=urldata&blobheadername1=Content-Type&blobheadervalue1=image%2Fjpeg&blobkey=id&blobtable=MungoBlobs&blobwhere=1283565901375&ssbinary=truehttp://i2.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article3182278.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/West-Midlands-Police-helicopter-stills-from-thermal-imaging-camera-3182278.jpg
1) This is 2014 and you can't hide in the hills anymore.
2) Most Americans are too fat and lazy to even climb a hill let alone live in the mountains.
:rolleyes: you watched Red Dawn too many times...lol.
Honestly, only watched Red Dawn once when I was a kid. I study the tactics that have been used against our own troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. The FLIR is easily defeated. You cannot get an IR signature through glass, nor any solid object as long as your not touching it and heating it up with your skin.
Mountainous wooded terrain provides the best protection against armor and advanced transport. That is a FACT.
I guess we should just all take Books approach. Continue getting raped financially by Jews, and their government, and look for no means whatsoever if shit hits the fan. In Books world we should all just submit and surrender. :rolleyes:
Shami-Amourae
26th February 2014, 07:43 PM
I guess we should just all take Books approach. Continue getting raped financially by Jews, and their government, and look for no means whatsoever if shit hits the fan. In Books world we should all just submit and surrender. :rolleyes:
I think he's just trying to be realistic rather than idealistic.
Jewboo
26th February 2014, 07:47 PM
In Books world we should all just submit and surrender. :rolleyes:
I'm just as frustrated as you are Ares. I just can't figure out any way of escaping the prison we are in.
http://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/camillaisgek/shrug.gif Hitler was right and we killed him
Shami-Amourae
26th February 2014, 08:04 PM
I'm just as frustrated as you are Ares. I just can't figure out any way of escaping the prison we are in.
http://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/camillaisgek/shrug.gif Hitler was right and we killed him
I've dealt with it personally by submerging myself entirely into virtual worlds and virtual reality. This forum really is my only real outlet to the outside world because I'm busy doing all sorts of crazy shit in the virtual world I both work and play in.
You have only one, short life and if you live it by trying to defeat something that will step on you and smudge your face onto the concrete. It may be better to try to find a way to have as much fun and insulate yourself as much as you can. In the virtual world I'm in I can be and do pretty much whatever I want.
To be honest the only way I see real change is through technological innovations which change paradigms that governments and the controllers cannot keep up with. Despite how bad things look we are much freer than humans have ever been historically speaking, it's just out in the open now since we can see it thanks to the Internet. It will also be something where only the few who use these technologies to their full potentials will achieve high levels of freedom. This is something the general Joe Blow won't ever be able to achieve, since they will be herded and slaughtered accordingly.
Cebu_4_2
26th February 2014, 08:06 PM
Hitler was right and we killed him
Lol Quoted for Truth!
Ares
26th February 2014, 08:17 PM
I'm just as frustrated as you are Ares. I just can't figure out any way of escaping the prison we are in.
http://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/camillaisgek/shrug.gif Hitler was right and we killed him
That may be, and I couldn't agree more. But even the strongest have weaknesses. However miner they may be, they can still be exploited. I'm just looking for weaknesses and taking notes as we all should. Our survival may depend on what we know later. All of us here are most likely on a list, or database somewhere. No sense in hiding from that fact, only makes sense to try and prepare the best we can for it.
hoarder
26th February 2014, 08:21 PM
I just can't figure out any way of escaping the prison we are inThere are hundreds of ways. Most are too slow or too late and most won't work. Jews hope we don't try. If they weren't worried, I doubt they could muster the all-out last ditch efforts they're currently putting forth.
Need I post the pic of the half-swallowed frog strangling the heron again?
Jewboo
26th February 2014, 08:25 PM
There are hundreds of ways. Most are too slow or too late and most won't work.
Which few do work for Hoarder. Be specific.
:) How is Hoarder any more "free" than us?
Cebu_4_2
26th February 2014, 08:27 PM
Which few do work for Hoarder. Be specific.
:) How is Hoarder any more "free" than us?
I don't work.
Jewboo
26th February 2014, 08:34 PM
I'm just looking for weaknesses and taking notes as we all should. Our survival may depend on what we know later.
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1178398/thumbs/o-PRISM-NSA-DATA-MINING-facebook.jpg
http://hackersnewsbulletin.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/iGaCUZM8LWH0.jpg
http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&docid=ZSWfp_NrTdVFPM&tbnid=6W9PZIW7M-wRXM&ved=0CAUQjBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fadammcdaniel.com%2FAmselArt%2FAms el_Papillon.jpg&ei=yrAOU8XfHYf2oATR6YKgBw&psig=AFQjCNEfDaLyCKK0hELwXC9fuX-6exwYXA&ust=1393558090552174
Ever since GIM1 went poof it seems that our situation day after day only keeps getting gradually worse.
http://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/camillaisgek/shrug.gif
Shami-Amourae
26th February 2014, 08:36 PM
Ever since GIM1 went poof it seems that our situation day after day only keeps getting gradually worse.
http://www.trancefix.nl/images/smilies/camillaisgek/shrug.gif
...Or we are more aware how bad it is, and has always been.
hoarder
26th February 2014, 08:57 PM
Which few do work for Hoarder. Be specific.Specific strategies are the ones that don't work because the enemy learns and takes actions against them.
To start, read The Art of War.
Free e-book:
http://suntzusaid.com/
Strategies must always be flexible to adapt.
But in general, it's a war of ideas and their weakness is that they are the purveyors of lies. Jews are only 2% of the population, yet they have recruited so many of their own to post on forums to sow confusion and try to deter the truth. This proves to me they think they have much to lose in this area.
They can infiltrate and run forums and make rules but their vulnerability is that subtlety cannot be enforced. They can't prevent us from printing flyers and placing them in public places. They can't prevent us from starting conversations about media and banking.
I find that as things get progressively worse, people are more interested in what I say.
Jewboo
26th February 2014, 09:52 PM
Which few do work for Hoarder. Be specific.
:) How is Hoarder any more "free" than us?
Recommending a book to read is not telling us what HOARDER is doing to be more "free" than us.
:)
hoarder
27th February 2014, 10:00 AM
Recommending a book to read is not telling us what HOARDER is doing to be more "free" than us.
:)I never claimed to be more free than you, but maybe I am. At least I'm not hindered by self defeat.
Jewboo
27th February 2014, 01:42 PM
I never claimed to be more free than you, but maybe I am. At least I'm not hindered by self defeat.
Oh. You can't give us examples of how HOARDER is living more free than us.
:rolleyes: thought so
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