Consumer electronics with built-in self-destruct???

[midnight rambler]

First it was a Canon digital camera that crapped out on me right at what I figure was 10 years from date of manufacture. It was still working just fine, I hadn't put that much use on it, I took very good care of it, and it was still in excellent shape. Then that camera just up and quit one day - nothing, wouldn't even turn on. Now my Samsung monitor is giving me indications (the visual bar for 'brightness' adjustment keeps popping up out of the blue, it's NEVER done this before) that it's going south on me as well. And I figure it's about 10 years from its date of manufacture as well.

It's a conspiracy by the manufacturers I'm tellin' ya.

[Dogman]

It is not just electronics, I know of some cars/trucks that start falling apart around that age also, wiring problems, sensors, dashes start cracking, etc. Some that I have seen had abt 100,000 miles or so on them. Engine's are still good but the rest starts falling off or breaking.

Have also had thoughts that most of what we use is built with a set lifetime (give or take) now, no matter how much care taken.

[Horn]

It's a conspiracy by the manufacturers I'm tellin' ya.

I had a LCDTV for about 2 years and it received a power surge, opened it up and was amazed at the cheapness of the solid state circuitry.

There's really only there what is neccessary to make the things function at a minimal capacity anymore, no secondary circuitry or protection worth noting.

The money is in the screen on those things, everything else is total cheapnis.

[milehi]

I bought a laptop last May. I set it up, went online and immediatly spilled a full IPA all over the keyboard. I slid it under the couch where it resides to this day.

[osoab]

I bought a laptop last May. I set it up, went online and immediatly spilled a full IPA all over the keyboard. I slid it under the couch where it resides to this day.

That's why you should drink "light" beer around keyboards. :D

[Glass]

for electronics it is usually a capacitor somewhere that has crapped out. They do have a lifespan with a duty cycle. They dry out or crack or just pop. That's all it takes. A guy with the know how will be able to sort it but it is the finding such a person that is the tough part.

[vacuum]

Electrolytic capacitors have a limited life span. Try changing out the electrolytic capacitors and it might work again.

[Cebu_4_2]

My kid replaces capacitors all the time, the camera thing sucks I guess. Says there is a chip or something that needs replacing and not worth it and almost impossible to solder back in.

[singular_me]

it is called 'planned obsolescence' - there are several excellent youtube docs out there

[Ponce]

it is called 'planned obsolescence' - there are several excellent youtube docs out there

I know, light bulbs was the first one to go......... the is one of the old ones in a fire station in LS that has been on nonstop for 101 years.......

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[FreeEnergy]

First it was a Canon digital camera that crapped out on me right at what I figure was 10 years from date of manufacture. It was still working just fine, I hadn't put that much use on it, I took very good care of it, and it was still in excellent shape. Then that camera just up and quit one day - nothing, wouldn't even turn on. Now my Samsung monitor is giving me indications (the visual bar for 'brightness' adjustment keeps popping up out of the blue, it's NEVER done this before) that it's going south on me as well. And I figure it's about 10 years from its date of manufacture as well.

It's a conspiracy by the manufacturers I'm tellin' ya.

Interesting find, I had a perfectly good color printer, probably 5 year old (in fact I think exactly 5) just quit working, just would no longer power up. Rarely used. Canon Pixma.
Got another Canon, photo printer - turned out complete garbage, the first printer that flat out was broken out of the box. That does it for me and Canon, no longer.

I switched from HP to Canon a while back as HP Inkjets are a waste of money. So now I am switching to Brother. For anything black-and-white I am now running small lasers with OEM/no-brand cartridges everywhere, screw you big boys.

Enjoy:
http://www.kodak.com/eknec/documents/45/0900688a80973145/ANZ_inkdata_530x385.gif

[PatColo]

it is called 'planned obsolescence' - there are several excellent youtube docs out there


Thread: LIGHT BULB CONSPIRACY (docu- planned obsolescence) (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?71867-LIGHT-BULB-CONSPIRACY-%28docu-planned-obsolescence%29)

[FreeEnergy]

It is not just electronics, I know of some cars/trucks that start falling apart around that age also, wiring problems, sensors, dashes start cracking, etc. Some that I have seen had abt 10000 miles or so on them. Engine's are still good but the rest starts falling off or breaking.

Have also had thoughts that most of what we use is built with a set lifetime (give or take) now, no matter how much care taken.

Acknowledging the fact of with cheap chinese electronics dying in cars. I owned two german luxury cars, sold one , will sell the other because can't stand the fact that electronics just breaks, it is cheapo chinese crap. Somehow in japanese cars electronics doesn't die. It is not capacitors etc, its just chinamen cannot make good electronics, anything that's good comes from Japan, Korea, Taiwan. Or directly German. Chinese are just too cheap, they'll save 2 cents on materials to make part break in half the time.

Mechanics is SOLID, and works. It is lights and sensors that go. German engineers are turning in their graves (and alive ones just can't wait to beat chinese with their 2 liter beer mugs) at the crap that chinafactories are turning up.

[FreeEnergy]

Thread: LIGHT BULB CONSPIRACY (docu- planned obsolescence) (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?71867-LIGHT-BULB-CONSPIRACY-%28docu-planned-obsolescence%29)

I can confirm this , as I was living in Eastern European country where light bulbs clearly last 2-3 times as long. That puzzled me for a while after I moved in USA.

[Cebu_4_2]

I owned two german luxury cars, sold one , will sell the other because can't stand the fact that electronics just breaks, it is cheapo chinese crap.

I own some german engineering and refuse to go any newer than 1995, that's when the electronics started getting out of hand. My 95 has more gadgets and options then brand new (chinese) Detroit Metal. Hondas and other Japanese cars are the runabout vehicles simply because they last forever, the German are the touring vehicles because of the comfort. And both are getting as good or better mileage then brand new garbage.

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[chad]

when i worked for a large pc manufacturing company, the pcs used to be built with hardware modems. then, some bean countr figured out we could save $$$$ if we switched to crappy software driven winmodems. the winmodems would blow up at a rate of about 5-1 to the hardware modems. the dumbasses probably spent 2-3 times more money handling support calls and warrantying stuff than if they would have just stuck to hardware modems. then they did the excat same thing when 10/100 card became the norm. they started off using good intel or 3comm 10/100 cards, the switched to shitty no name brands of them. same thing happened. all they cared about was next quarters earnings.

[Hitch]

I've wondered about self destruct, especially with computers. I am lucky to get 1 year out of a laptop. I always thought it was the salty air environment. I just replaced mine last week. The mouse went out. The usb ports stopped working, and the keypad wouldn't type right either.

[mick silver]

china slowing down they need people to buy more . i also thought the crap was to fix to break in a few years

[Dogman]

I've wondered about self destruct, especially with computers. I am lucky to get 1 year out of a laptop. I always thought it was the salty air environment. I just replaced mine last week. The mouse went out. The usb ports stopped working, and the keypad wouldn't type right either.I would bet that salt does contribute to your laptop problems.

Imo.

[Horn]

They still do make some PC and laptop motherboards here in the U.S.,
but it is only the highest end latest model versions of any brand name.
(or at least the last time I checked)

My current white box rig has an intel mobo made stateside that's been crankin for 7 years now non-stop. (crosses fingers)

Forget about finding a blender or coffee maker to do the same.