Highly educated does not mean smart

[midnight rambler]

Ever notice how some of the highly educated (like those with PhDs) are unable to think? I've recently had some incidents happen where I've been conversing with someone who got 'em some of that higher education learnin' like a piled higher and deeper degree (and they certainly don't hesitate to advise you, "I've got a doctorate.") and there they are at their computer asking me dumb questions that most people know the answer to yet they're unable to do a quickie search with the most powerful research tool in history available right there at their fingertips.

[Libertytree]

I've seen that happen for years! Their lacking component is most always common sense or just general knowledge that normally are taken for granted.

[Dogman]

There are 'academics' that teach others that influence the young that have not a clue of real life and look down their noses at us unwashed ones. They are the ones that stay in school and never leave, to join the real world.

There is book smart/life dumb they know all of the perfect theory's on how things need to be vs real life/on the job.

Yes the world is full of a bunch of smart very dumb in living people.

The scary thing most are teaching our kids or are in possession's of power/gov..

One reason we(as a nation) is/are getting so screwed up


Bunch of "smart" idiots! Sound familiar?

[Sparky]

I think it's widely recognized by almost everyone (including highly educated people) that highly educated does not mean smart. People with advanced degrees get mocked all the time for their lack of know-how or competence. But I'll make two related points:

1) Some highly educated people are smart. Don't pre-judge them any more than you would pre-judge a non-educated person.
2) The smartest people in the world are likely to be amongst the highly educated. In order to be in that elite class, you need to be both gifted with natural intelligence, plus have had the opportunity to cultivate that intelligence to the maximum degree possible. Yes, the smartest uneducated people can compete with highly educated people, but they cannot compete with the smartest highly educated people.

On a related note, I don't really like the term "common sense". The reason that some smart people don't seem to have "common sense" is that they have learned that many things in life that seem to be true based on "common sense" are not really true when you learn about them to a greater depth, and they tend to presume that there is something more than meets the eye. Sometimes there is, and sometimes there isn't. When there isn't, it makes them look like they don't have any commons sense.

I think one thing that we can all agree on is that highly educated people who think they are better than everyone else are dickheads.

[midnight rambler]

I think one thing that we can all agree on is that highly educated people who think they are better than everyone else are dickheads.

Perhaps a more appropriate title for this thread would be "highly educated does not necessarily mean smart".

[Dogman]

I think it's widely recognized by almost everyone (including highly educated people) that highly educated does not mean smart. People with advanced degrees get mocked all the time for their lack of know-how or competence. But I'll make two related points:

1) Some highly educated people are smart. Don't pre-judge them any more than you would pre-judge a non-educated person.
2) The smartest people in the world are likely to be amongst the highly educated. In order to be in that elite class, you need to be both gifted with natural intelligence, plus have had the opportunity to cultivate that intelligence to the maximum degree possible. Yes, the smartest uneducated people can compete with highly educated people, but they cannot compete with the smartest highly educated people.

On a related note, I don't really like the term "common sense". The reason that some smart people don't seem to have "common sense" is that they have learned that many things in life that seem to be true based on "common sense" are not really true when you learn about them to a greater depth, and they tend to presume that there is something more than meets the eye. Sometimes there is, and sometimes there isn't. When there isn't, it makes them look like they don't have any commons sense.

I think one thing that we can all agree on is that highly educated people who think they are better than everyone else are dickheads.

There is a spectrum or polarity's, my post was about one side, yours fairly covers the other and then there is the muddle of the middle.

Have met many a dickhead/male/female in my life..Most were insufferable in their superiority.

[Sparky]

Perhaps a more appropriate title for this thread would be "highly educated does not necessarily mean smart".

Exactly.

[monty]

Two of the smartest people I have met in my life were well educated. One was an uncle of mine, a man with a doctorate in psychology. He worked with soldiers returning from World War II. My uncle had a unique gift. He could carry on an interesting an stimulating conversation with anyone who entered the room. He would talk to each person on his own level making them feel truly appreciated. My uncle grew up in Kentucky, the son of poor farmers,during the depression.


The other man was the son of German immigrants who grew up in Cleveland, Ohio. He started his career as a forklift mechanic. At the age of 26 he told me there was absolutely no way he would spend his life repairing fork lifts. He had his wife support him while he went to college and earned his masters degree in Mechanical Engineering. He had the practical experience combined with his education. This man was the territory manager for the Euclid Haul Truck company before Volvo swallowed them up. The company sent him to mines all over North and South America. On the other hand I have met engineers and geologists who spent their life in school and had no idea how to cope with real life problems and projects.

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[Dogman]

Two of the smartest people I have met in my life were well educated. One was an uncle of mine, a man with a doctorate in psychology. He worked with soldiers returning from World War II. My uncle had a unique gift. He could carry on an interesting an stimulating conversation with anyone who entered the room. He would talk to each person on his own level making them feel truly appreciated. My uncle grew up in Kentucky, the son of poor farmers,during the depression.


The other man was the son of German immigrants who grew up in Cleveland, Ohio. He started his career as a forklift mechanic. At the age of 26 he told me there was absolutely no way he would spend his life repairing fork lifts. He had his wife support him while he went to college and earned his masters degree in Mechanical Engineering. He had the practical experience combined with his education. This man was the territory manager for the Euclid Haul Truck company before Volvo swallowed them up. The company sent him to mines all over North and South America. On the other hand I have met engineers and geologists who spent their life in school and had no idea how to cope with real life problems and projects.

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Book/theory vs practical..

It is in the blend that things work.

[Libertytree]

Well, I'm sorry to piss on the parade but in my experience the highly educated folks I've had dealings with couldn't figure their way out of a wet paper bag. I felt bad for'em and I'm just a poor shit head and wouldn't trade spots with'em if I could.

[Dogman]

Well, I'm sorry to piss on the parade but in my experience the highly educated folks I've had dealings with couldn't figure their way out of a wet paper bag. I felt bad for'em and I'm just a poor shit head and wouldn't trade spots with'em if I could.Sorta same here, but I was trying to be nice, Sorta..

I will take a smart hick with a good heart, over a smart over educated dick that had others under him/her that corrected his mistakes, because his/hers theory was correct, but would never work in the real world as designed. I have a huge list of ones that I suffered and the screaming matches done to get things to work. Book smart / real life idiots. All after I proved their way will not work,and proven them wrong, god I have memory's of battle's that I grind my teeth and also celibate the wins. Multiple fields over several disciplines, tho I am not a collage grad, just on the job and did pick up books and self teach in the practical and learned what works.

Kids out of collage are the worse, until they are broken in to real life.

Still the ones in our university's and such are smart idiots.

[hoarder]

The academic measure of intellect is memory. If you have a good memory and the gumption to stick with it, you will go far in college.

Colleges are indoctrination centers. The better you are at becoming indoctrinated, the higher the marks you will recieve. No capacity for logical reasoning needed.

Ever notice how kids that do well in spelling bees are touted as being highly intelligent? They have good memories, that's all.

Of course it's possible to have the power of logical thought and do well in college, but it isn't required.

Most professionals like doctors and lawyers live in a world of memorized procedures. Their grammar and vocabulary may make them seem intelligent to people who don't know what intellect is, but often these brilliant minds don't have a lick of sense.

[Ares]

Well, I'm sorry to piss on the parade but in my experience the highly educated folks I've had dealings with couldn't figure their way out of a wet paper bag. I felt bad for'em and I'm just a poor shit head and wouldn't trade spots with'em if I could.

Same here. I used to do Whole House Automation. The highly "educated" were the bread and butter for my employer. I've never experienced a more moronic self entitled, ignorant bunch in all my life. Set up a computer, and actually show them how to use a simple Word document, or Excel spread sheet. I would do the highly technical stuff like program their remote to turn on or off their equipment with the click of a single button. Yet they still couldn't figure it out. The indignation that I have a life outside of work well, that was just unacceptable. I would get calls at 1-2am while they are throwing a house party and they couldn't figure out how to work their whole house audio system.

Security Systems were some god that protects them.... Literally, they were scared of basic security systems. These systems once you know how they work are nothing more than a binary system of open / close circuits. Yet they would feel uneasy when the motion detector would "see" them while they were walking around their house. I don't know how many times I had to explain to them that the system would only sound an alarm once it was engaged for away. While in stay mode motions are disabled... Yeah, still couldn't get it.

Unless you're a child prodigy who got their first Ph.D by 18 or 20, sorry you're just another fucking indoctrinated idiot passing off your education as some sort of unearned entitlement.

[Dogman]

Same here. I used to do Whole House Automation. The highly "educated" were the bread and butter for my employer. I've never experienced a more moronic self entitled, ignorant bunch in all my life. Set up a computer, and actually show them how to use a simple Word document, or Excel spread sheet. I would do the highly technical stuff like program their remote to turn on or off their equipment with the click of a single button. Yet they still couldn't figure it out. The indignation that I have a life outside of work well that was just unacceptable, I would get calls at 1-2am while they are throwing a house party and they couldn't figure out how to work their whole house audio system.

Security Systems were some god that protects them.... Literally, they were scared of basic security systems. These systems once you know how they work are nothing more than a binary system of open / close circuits. Yet they would feel uneasy when the motion detector would "see" them while they were walking around their house. I don't know how many times I had to explain to them that the system would only sound an alarm once it was engaged for away. While in stay mode motions are disabled... Yeah, still couldn't get it.

Unless you're a child prodigy who got their first Ph.D by 18 or 20, sorry you're just another fucking indoctrinated idiot passing off your education as some sort of unearned entitlement.Ever use any E.D.T , electronic design technology lighting controls? I-line, I was helping to do home automation in the mid 2005-7,( I built them, board level) it was all wired cat 5-6, tried to get him into wireless but no joy.

[Ares]

Ever use any E.D.T , electronic design equipment/electronics lighting controls? I was helping to do home automation in the mid 2007-9,( I built them, board level) it was all wired cat 5-6, tried to get him into wireless but no joy.

Yep, I did some Lutron stuff too. Also not fun. There is a new system that came out called Control 4 that is an all in one type system. Communicates to it's other components through TCP/IP. It's a really cool system. Even comes with it's own server rack if you pay the 100k for the complete system. lol

http://www.control4.com/

I ended up having to train my replacement before I left how to setup a VLan (Virtual LAN) so that the Control 4 traffic didn't interfere with the whole house computer network. I was the only "computer guy" they had and were in a little bit of a panic when I said I was leaving.

[Dogman]

Yep, I did some Lutron stuff too. Also not fun. There is a new system that came out called Control 4 that is an all in one type system. Communicates to it's other components through TCP/IP. It's a really cool system. Even comes with it's own server rack if you pay the 100k for the complete system. lol

http://www.control4.com/

I ended up having to train my replacement before I left how to setup a VLan (Virtual LAN) so that the Control 4 traffic didn't interfere with the whole house computer network. I was the only "computer guy" they had and were in a little bit of a panic when I said I was leaving.
All built in longview texas, by me, the ideal was a good one but it had design problems/limitations. One it was a bitch to stuff the switches in the gang boxes without having the cable connections go weird, plus Lightning was a killer, the thing was the limited space in the gang box, and the huge antenna the cable offered to kill the electronics. New construction was good tho a bitch/and it was a super sonofabitch for existing structures.

Nice to know we have something in common, I just built the systems but their weakness finally did the co. in.

Edit: the system used tcp/ip, I was on the physical build side and the electronic engineer (s) were on the design/programming side. Kool system the way any switch could control any other switch, multi button switches were a toy, but a cool one. any one button could bring up say a panic whole house lit to the max, plus an alarm, or push a button and the house will shut down except what is wanted lit and how bright, or a button to set a "mood"...of any combination of lights in the house that were wired into the system..

Just giving my bonafide's that I know this system, built them and installed/programmed them.

[Ponce]

I am happy to be just a plain Cuban refugee with a 10th grade education.......and look at me, I am sitting pretty while those with a higher education are living at home with mom and dad...........is not what you know but how you use what you know.

V

[Dogman]

I am happy to be just a plain Cuban refugee with a 10th grade education.......and look at me, I am sitting pretty while those with a higher education are living at home with mom and dad...........is not what you know but how you use what you know.

VYou remind me of a cat, wanting to be scratched and rubbed, insufferable..

LOL!

[Hitch]

Define highly educated. Does that only apply to college and advanced degrees? If I focus my spare time to study something, but receive no certificate for that, is that not highly educated?

Define smart. Is that common sense, or an IQ test.

The problem is the labelling. When you label things like this you trap them, by definition.

[Dogman]

Same here. I used to do Whole House Automation. The highly "educated" were the bread and butter for my employer. I've never experienced a more moronic self entitled, ignorant bunch in all my life. Set up a computer, and actually show them how to use a simple Word document, or Excel spread sheet. I would do the highly technical stuff like program their remote to turn on or off their equipment with the click of a single button. Yet they still couldn't figure it out. The indignation that I have a life outside of work well, that was just unacceptable. I would get calls at 1-2am while they are throwing a house party and they couldn't figure out how to work their whole house audio system.

Security Systems were some god that protects them.... Literally, they were scared of basic security systems. These systems once you know how they work are nothing more than a binary system of open / close circuits. Yet they would feel uneasy when the motion detector would "see" them while they were walking around their house. I don't know how many times I had to explain to them that the system would only sound an alarm once it was engaged for away. While in stay mode motions are disabled... Yeah, still couldn't get it.

Unless you're a child prodigy who got their first Ph.D by 18 or 20, sorry you're just another fucking indoctrinated idiot passing off your education as some sort of unearned entitlement.


Also will agree with you on security systems , mithinks most of those fokes are scared maybe for good reason, but they do seem to jump at shadows. I also was at board level building security systems, do a search on nx-4-6-8 by caddx or ge security. But that is for a different thread. I love/hate surface mount.

[7th trump]

All built in longview texas, by me, the ideal was a good one but it had design problems/limitations. One it was a bitch to stuff the switches in the gang boxes without having the cable connections go weird, plus Lightning was a killer, the thing was the limited space in the gang box, and the huge antenna the cable offered to kill the electronics. New construction was good tho a bitch/and it was a super sonofabitch for existing structures.

Nice to know we have something in common, I just built the systems but their weakness finally did the co. in.

Edit: the system used tcp/ip, I was on the physical build side and the electronic engineer (s) were on the design/programming side. Kool system the way any switch could control any other switch, multi button switches were a toy, but a cool one.

Funny you guys are talking about home automation....I've put together a home PLC system using the BeagleBoneBlack and touch screen over I2C and TCP/IP for communication.
I can open and close the garage doors with any remote PC/ Iphone, adjust the furnace and A/C, set alarm, know when a door is opened, when the water is turned on, turn on/off lights, adjust the automatic watering system for the garden...set moisture level sensors in garden tubes, turn on/off electrical mains ....not hard to do when you have a real education such as electronics with a background in industrial communications/electrician..........hard part is done as most, if not all, of the coding already exist in open source freely downloadable.
Anybody, and I mean anybody, can make their own circuit boards with photopaper, laser printer, free autocad program, and a clothes iron as long as the circuit boards are only one or two sided and not multi layer.
Just have to piece it together and wala!

Ohh and software to design the custom touchscreen that mimics the floor plan of your house is also free and easy to use.....drag and drop just about any interface control such as buttons and slides onto the floor plan to control lighting and temp in each room.

[Ponce]

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[Dogman]

Funny you guys are talking about home automation....I've put together a home PLC system using the BeagleBoneBlack and touch screen over I2C and TCP/IP for communication.
I can open and close the garage doors with any remote PC/ Iphone, adjust the furnace and A/C, set alarm, know when a door is opened, when the water is turned on, turn on/off lights, adjust the automatic watering system for the garden...set moisture level sensors in garden tubes, turn on/off electrical mains ....not hard to do when you have a real education such as electronics with a background in industrial communications/electrician..........hard part is done as most, if not all, of the coding already exist in open source freely downloadable.
Anybody can make their own circuit boards with photopaper, laser printer and an clothes iron as long as the circuit boards are only one or two sided and not multi layer.
Just have to piece it together and wala!Greetings, amongst other crap!!

Hell the tech has gotten better since I got out, tho it still is a bitch wiring or putting the switches in , (out of sight out of mind) invisible (new construction not so much, but retrofitting is a bitch). Yes I love what can be done now, with the bucks....Anything can be controlled remotely. we were working on a thermostat at the time,(2005-6) but never got off the ground, but others did make it so..

The tech today compared to just 5 years ago is amazing, think what will happen if we do not blow ourselfs off the planet in the future..That is one reason this semioldfartintrainingwantstolivelonger...

[Dogman]

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Shit head!!

Said with respect!

GRIN!

[Hitch]

I suppose the highly educated now means highly tech savy.

[7th trump]

Greetings, amongst other crap!!

Hell the tech has gotten better since I got out, tho it still is a bitch wiring or putting the switches in , (out of sight out of mind) invisible (new construction not so much, but retrofitting is a bitch). Yes I love what can be done now, with the bucks....Anything can be controlled remotely. we were working on a thermostat at the time,(2005-6) but never got off the ground, but others did make it so..

The tech today compared to just 5 years ago is amazing, think what will happen if we do not blow ourselfs off the planet in the future..That is one reason this semioldfartintrainingwantstolivelonger...

Yep...technology just keeps getting better and better....imagine what will be around just 10 years from now!
The remote thermostat is old news in the field of beaglebone and raspberry pi.......I watched a youtube the other day of a 5th grader hooking up his raspberry pi to a remote thermostat to control his parents furnace from their Iphone....heck a 12 year old on youtube built a homemade CO2 laser that actually lit matches on fire, cut paper and popped balloons.

[zap]

LOL Yes , I agree Hitch, cause I can't even post a picture here. and how would I shut off a water valve remotely with my phone?

Apparently I am Not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I get by pretty good.:)

[Dogman]

Funny you guys are talking about home automation....I've put together a home PLC system using the BeagleBoneBlack and touch screen over I2C and TCP/IP for communication.
I can open and close the garage doors with any remote PC/ Iphone, adjust the furnace and A/C, set alarm, know when a door is opened, when the water is turned on, turn on/off lights, adjust the automatic watering system for the garden...set moisture level sensors in garden tubes, turn on/off electrical mains ....not hard to do when you have a real education such as electronics with a background in industrial communications/electrician..........hard part is done as most, if not all, of the coding already exist in open source freely downloadable.
Anybody, and I mean anybody, can make their own circuit boards with photopaper, laser printer, free autocad program, and a clothes iron as long as the circuit boards are only one or two sided and not multi layer.
Just have to piece it together and wala!

Ohh and software to design the custom touchscreen that mimics the floor plan of your house is also free and easy to use.....drag and drop just about any interface control such as buttons and slides onto the floor plan to control lighting and temp in each room.

I do agree with most of the code or the hard part in general is already done, just modify it for the job at hand, so many story's I could tell of the what "If's" bull sessions and I agree the hardware is out there and all it takes is one that understands what it can do to integrate a slew of parts into an integrated system. For the personal joy of knowing what they have, if not cost..but cost maybe not..systems have gotten cheep..then the independent control of ones home built system ...There are advantages for both ways...Tho when I had more energy , homebuilt all the way. just as good as any storebought system.


I am sorry, this discussion needs to be in another thread, and not this one.

[7th trump]

LOL Yes , I agree Hitch, cause I can't even post a picture here. and how would I shut off a water valve remotely with my phone?

Apparently I am Not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I get by pretty good.:)
Zap it isn't all that difficult....the one reason you believe its difficult is because you have it set in your mind.............its difficult!
Youtube is nothing but encyclopedia's in video format...you want to learn something...just look it up on youtube.
I learn more by watching than reading.

[Hitch]

LOL Yes , I agree Hitch, cause I can't even post a picture here. and how would I shut off a water valve remotely with my phone?

Apparently I am Not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I get by pretty good.:)

Zap, LOL. I can't post a picture on this forum either!!

Cheers!

[Dogman]

Zap it isn't all that difficult....the one reason you believe its difficult is because you have it set in your mind.............its difficult!
Youtube is nothing but encyclopedia's in video format...you want to learn something...just look it up on youtube.Bingo,Bingo,Bingo,Bingo!!

Thank you 7th!!

[milehi]

I just shut up and fall to same level of dumb. Get in 'n and out.

[woodman]

The most important lesson to be learned in college: College is where the smart go to get smarter and the dumb go to get dumber.

[Neuro]

The most important lesson to be learned in college: College is where the smart go to get smarter and the dumb go to get dumber.
Fantastic!

[singular_me]

we have to agree with the definition of prodigy, if you mean for example a Tesla, Mozart type of IQ, yeah sure, I agree. Getting PhDs by modern standards doesnt mean much, no matter at what age ones get them... in my view a prodigy is someone by his knowledge and perception can better Humanity, but this often comes with a string attached as these prodigy too often have emotional dysfunctions as they live for their ideals only and are obsessed with them, which make them sound recluse or even arrogant. The latter need 24/7 emotional support when interacting with the outside world.

well my life partner does confirm the above, although he hasnt gotten any PhD. He is the case of a prodigy that discovered himself in his mid 30s... he is currently writing a theory quite grandiose that links music/frequencies, electromagnetism and Vedic Maths to explain the cognitive realm, how the Left and Right brain communicate. Yes it may seem odd that he writes about emotions but his "lack of touch with the day to day reality" is the fuel of his endeavor.

Although life can be rocky every now and then, we are a good pair of very brainy types




Unless you're a child prodigy who got their first Ph.D by 18 or 20, sorry you're just another fucking indoctrinated idiot passing off your education as some sort of unearned entitlement.

[Neuro]

we have to agree with the definition of prodigy, if you mean for example a Tesla, Mozart type of IQ, yeah sure, I agree. Getting PhDs by modern standards dont mean much, no matter at what age ones get them... in my view a prodigy is someone by his knowledge and perception can better Humanity, but this often comes with a string attached as these prodigy too often have emotional dysfunctions as they live for their ideals only and are obsessed with them, which makes them recluse or sound selfish/arrogant.
Yeah, drug them down with ADHD-drugs, so that they can function properly in the group work environment, and doesn't hurt the feelings of average dumbfucks...

[singular_me]

hahaha - good one!

actually Neuro, I have been pondering this for quite a while and think that ADHD is merely the symptom of a burning passion inside that cannot be expressed fast enough and/or is suppressed by the environment. :)

No drugs required but changing society's paradigms ... the more society is out of whack, the more ADHD types out there, so this means more geniuses are being created, that doesnt mean that their potential will be recognized though, as parents and teachers do not understand what is going on most of the time. But the NWO knows this, hence the agenda to drug them, to kill the genius in them.

In a more balanced society, genius would be the norm and without the emotional dysfunction factor. Nature is fighting back as she has to sustain Awareness throughout the Universe no matter what. Ever heard of Indigo Children?


Yeah, drug them down with ADHD-drugs, so that they can function properly in the group work environment, and doesn't hurt the feelings of average dumbfucks...

[hoarder]

I suppose the highly educated now means highly tech savy.Electronics is another area in which memory proves more valuable than reason.

A logical person can trace out electrical, pneumatic or hydraulic circuits and figure out how a system was designed to function, or why it doesn't. Electronics is completely different because all the logic is sealed in miniaturized modules. What those modules do is a complete mystery to a logical person with no specific training.

There is no such thing as a "gadget guy" or "computer savvy" person that doesn't have a very good memory. Those kind of people are gifted in the ability to memorize procedures.

That said, I think a logical person can figure out the world's problems much easier than a tech savvy person.

[Ares]

The most important lesson to be learned in college: College is where the smart go to get smarter and the dumb go to get dumber.

Google recently came out and said they are now looking for people who are self taught rather than college educated as the degree doesn't mean they can do the job while someone who had the drive to teach themselves how to code, network, or build an infrastructure have the experience and know how.

http://qz.com/180247/why-google-doesnt-care-about-hiring-top-college-graduates/

[7th trump]

Google recently came out and said they are now looking for people who are self taught rather than college educated as the degree doesn't mean they can do the job while someone who had the drive to teach themselves how to code, network, or build an infrastructure have the experience and know how.

http://qz.com/180247/why-google-doesnt-care-about-hiring-top-college-graduates/
Yep another good thought.
I coworker of mine (another outside contractor) doesnt have any education in the area of networking whatsoever (just experience and a drive of perfection) and yet he was hand picked by a guy who does have the Cisco Enterprise level to work where hes at now.....now this guy is 1 of 5 to get possibly hired by Deere as an network support engineer who is currently working at design and up grade of enterprise level networks.

He started out years ago hacking from his basement and learned from experience. If hes hired hes just under 6 figures for not having any formal education in his field.

[singular_me]

lets talk of hope... i think there has always been indigo kids, but their numbers is just becoming toooo great since the 80's to remain unnoticed. Forget about the terminology, they are among us, and thats all what matters :)

INDIGO CHILDREN CHARACTERISTICS
• Old soul qualities, with wisdom far greater than their age
• Highly creative – often drawn to writing, art, music, etc.
• Often have psychic & intuitive abilities
• Introverted, unless around other indigo children
• Have a strong calling to make the world a better place
• Possess an innate knowledge of better ways to do things, natural “system busters”
• Are non-responsive to controlling and/or authority figures
• Can have a feeling of natural superiority
• Loves nature, plants, and animals

Uploaded on Sep 22, 2010

Whether they are called the "Disciple Generation" by Christians, or "Indigo Kids" by New Age followers, or Millenials by demographers

Children born after 1978 are said to be different. They are empathetic, curious, strong-willed, independent, and often perceived by friends and family as being weird. They possess a clear sense of self-definition and purpose and also exhibit a strong inclination towards spiritual matters from early childhood.

These children have also been described as having a strong feeling of entitlement. These children have a high intelligence quotient, an inherent intuitive ability, and a resistance to authority. Indigo children function poorly in conventional schools due to their rejection of authority, being conceptually smarter than their teachers. They are non-responsive to authoritarian, guilt/fear/manipulation based discipline. Many of these children labeled or diagnosed as having ADHD. They are avoiding or leaving the modern Church model in droves as they find deep spirituality in the gifts God has given them.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxjdaEvyguY

[hoarder]

As I was saying, people with great memories are regarded as intelligent....
They are empathetic, curious, strong-willed, independent, and often perceived by friends and family as being weird. ....while truly intelligent people are regarded as wierd (not that I think people born after 1978 are smarter).

[singular_me]

we are talking in circles, since the early 80s' there is an increasing and noticeable trend of individuals with ADHD, which is either being drugged down or into whatever addiction.. because their intuition tells them that the environment is antagonistic.

I believe my son is an Indigo, not because he was born in 79, he is SO aware of just everything, without me bugging him or imposing certain train of thoughts. He is working on a film documentary exposing the nefarious coltane industry in Africa, another blood diamonds type of story but much worse since we use coltane in electronics, especially cell phones and computers. And like I, he writes too.

edit: my son was not a good student at all but rather the black sheep and targeted by many teachers because he was "different/weird'.. He didnt finish high school to be honest but now is catching up in a big way :)

[milehi]

Im reading "Indigo Adults" at the moment.

[Jewboo]

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/wp-content/blogs.dir/445/files/2012/04/i-559e3d268a845b7cc1988ed7214971e6-IndigoMom.jpg
My gifted Timmy is an Indigo while your annoying kid is just a brat

[Serpo]

lets talk of hope... i think there has always been indigo kids, but their numbers is just becoming toooo great since the 80's to remain unnoticed. Forget about the terminology, they are among us, and thats all what matters :)

INDIGO CHILDREN CHARACTERISTICS
• Old soul qualities, with wisdom far greater than their age
• Highly creative – often drawn to writing, art, music, etc.
• Often have psychic & intuitive abilities
• Introverted, unless around other indigo children
• Have a strong calling to make the world a better place
• Possess an innate knowledge of better ways to do things, natural “system busters”
• Are non-responsive to controlling and/or authority figures
• Can have a feeling of natural superiority
• Loves nature, plants, and animals

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Whether they are called the "Disciple Generation" by Christians, or "Indigo Kids" by New Age followers, or Millenials by demographers

Children born after 1978 are said to be different. They are empathetic, curious, strong-willed, independent, and often perceived by friends and family as being weird. They possess a clear sense of self-definition and purpose and also exhibit a strong inclination towards spiritual matters from early childhood.

These children have also been described as having a strong feeling of entitlement. These children have a high intelligence quotient, an inherent intuitive ability, and a resistance to authority. Indigo children function poorly in conventional schools due to their rejection of authority, being conceptually smarter than their teachers. They are non-responsive to authoritarian, guilt/fear/manipulation based discipline. Many of these children labeled or diagnosed as having ADHD. They are avoiding or leaving the modern Church model in droves as they find deep spirituality in the gifts God has given them.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxjdaEvyguY

Thats me ,but Im no kid and have no Indigo anywhere on me.

These labels separate and divide people into this or that where as we are all just people waking up.

[mick silver]

now i know your from ky , i hear people here saying that almost every day .... out of a wet paper bag....
Well, I'm sorry to piss on the parade but in my experience the highly educated folks I've had dealings with couldn't figure their way out of a wet paper bag. I felt bad for'em and I'm just a poor shit head and wouldn't trade spots with'em if I could.

[singular_me]

Yes, divide and conquer labels are everywhere.. I hear you.

ps: I was performing poorly too as a student, I wasnt interested in anything I was taught. Art became the only escape, I became a writer :)



Thats me ,but Im no kid and have no Indigo anywhere on me.

These labels separate and divide people into this or that where as we are all just people waking up.

[govcheetos]

Common sense aint common.

How's that from a guy with 3 PHDs?

PHD=Post Hole Digger.