Supporting The Troops

[iOWNme]

How do you support the Troops?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Odwerv2_k

[Jewboo]

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Josie The Outlaw ??


Hey iOWNme.............what laws has Josie violated and when was she ever arrested?


:rolleyes:

[Cebu_4_2]

That video should make me more friends on social networking sites...

[hoarder]

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[Dogman]

...................I can get behind that! The world is mostly grown up and do not need us/ most of our conflicts in the past were driven by big business to ether keep markets open of for resources. Most were not a direct threat to our population..

Again I use my favorite word..Greed! Which is universal to the human nature, in some ways it is getting better because of the information age. The shit of the past in many ways can not be repeated, but there will still be wars driven by greed or trying to maintain the "status" Quo!

Pull and put the troops on both boarders so there are no gaps, Am all for it.

[Twisted Titan]

I dont need to support the troops

I will support a militia.

Because that means they are protecting me from a domestic threat.

[iOWNme]

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Josie The Outlaw ??


Hey iOWNme.............what laws has Josie violated and when was she ever arrested?


:rolleyes:


Why are you attacking her name? Shouldnt you be able to EASILY rebut her stance using reason logic and evidence? Surely this little anarchist isnt smarter than you? Come on Jewboy!

She has several videos on her channel about this exact issue. Why dont you go watch them? Because you dont really care, your just here to distract and deflect others who may actually learn something here. Please keep it up, i love it!

[Jewboo]

Why are you attacking her name?




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Your cute girl poses with guns and calls herself the "Outlaw" but you yourself can't tell us what laws she violated and when she was ever jailed?


:rolleyes: send her $10 every month for what?

[mick silver]

because she cute an i like her six shooters. i hope i get my 10

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Your cute girl poses with guns and calls herself the "Outlaw" but you yourself can't tell us what laws she violated and when she was ever jailed?


:rolleyes: send her $10 every month for what?

[hoarder]

Your cute girl poses with guns and calls herself the "Outlaw" but you yourself can't tell us what laws she violated and when she was ever jailed?


:rolleyes: send her $10 every month for what? With an endorsement from IOWNbagels, she's probably controlled opposition. Josie the bagelmuncher?

[Dogman]

I can see that most here have never served, which seems right since there was no dam draft since I got out..


You that diss are numb nuts, it took me a tad of years to figguer out that we should never have been or had anything with vietnam.

Now dump on my I do not give a shit, the ones that join today have their reasons, not why I joined but still liggit.

Do I support the politics,,,dan and hell no!

But for the grunt, biding his/her time, I do!

Hell I as Ponce (thank you , clewing that I may be eligible) have health care because I did serve.

All it takes is to give our life, and hope you survive, not all did or do.

And then there are still layers of crap..But it is free.

I stand my ground..

Now I am bombarded from the va, about my "mental" health amongst other things that I work to ignore.

It is fun to twist their tails, knowing that If I have a real problem, it will be fixed with the weight of the federal gov.

Now who can say that, ponce can or not agree. But he uses them..

any one else?

[BrewTech]

I can see that most here have never served, which seems right since there was no dam draft since I got out..


You that diss are numb nuts, it took me a tad of years to figguer out that we should never have been or had anything with vietnam.

Now dump on my I do not give a shit, the ones that join today have their reasons, not why I joined but still liggit.

Do I support the politics,,,dan and hell no!

But for the grunt, biding his/her time, I do!

Hell I as Ponce (thank you , clewing that I may be eligible) have health care because I did serve.

All it takes is to give our life, and hope you survive, not all did or do.

And then there are still layers of crap..But it is free.

I stand my ground..

Now I am bombarded from the va, about my "mental" health amongst other things that I work to ignore.

It is fun to twist their tails, knowing that If I have a real problem, it will be fixed with the weight of the federal gov.

Now who can say that, ponce can or not agree. But he uses them..

any one else?

Huh?

[midnight rambler]

Bumper sticker I saw a couple of months ago:

If you don't stand with our troops feel free to stand in front of my truck.

[collector]

Seems akin to supporting guys who become cops and stay in it for the money while they bash heads all the way because their boss tells them to. They support their "team" and just bide their time until they qualify for their pension. I have a hard time supporting that even though they're just feeding their families.

[hoarder]

Bumper sticker I saw a couple of months ago:

If you don't stand with our troops feel free to stand in front of my truck.I'm not so sure I know what "stand with our troops" means. To some it means "stand with our rulers".
The bumper sticker is not difinitive about whether supporting troops is the same as supporting the orders they're commanded to carry out or supporting them against enemies foreign and DOMESTIC.

[Dogman]

Cool, I knew some would be "dumbfounded" Some have little choice in life, so they join the military. They will learn how to kill but more important is maybe a skill that will translate into civilian life or..

Be funded to edicuate ones self on what ever. Excust my spelling..

The thing is , We signed over our lifes , If lucky we lived. If not you get a neat head stone/flag to your family.

Because we served , and survived there are basic promises given us unlike most or all that did not sign over their lifes to the gov.

Now is it or was worth it, Good question that I can not answer for anyone other than myself. I am glad I chose the air force vs/army. The skills set a base line of knowledge that I have made my in life and living.Hell now I am t trying to get ogg there rader. Nice to they have my back, that is welcome at my stage in life,but shit,

But I guess it is better than nothing, all it took was signing my life away for 10 years, 4 active and the rest inactive.

[Norweger]

Support the troops.. more like support da joos.

[Dogman]

Support the troops.. more like support da joos. Hay ass lick, you may or not be a citizen of this country. Do I support the agenda , no!

But back when I was dumb and young, there was a time when my life was not my own. When I got out I keep my mouth shut, but within the last 2 years, because of Ponce, I found that My service had more meaning than I thought..

I may bitch, but at least I earned the right, unlike most on this forum.

[Uncle Salty]

Your cute girl poses with guns and calls herself the "Outlaw" but you yourself can't tell us what laws she violated and when she was ever jailed?

Um really? Outlaw has more than one meaning or connotation.

[singular_me]

I cannot stream any video

But

I think enrolling people into the army is the most cruel con game ever...

if they only knew.



How do you support the Troops?

[Jewboo]

Um really? Outlaw has more than one meaning or connotation.

What is your personal connotation of Josie's "Outlawness" ?


:)

[Dogman]

I cannot stream any video

But

I think enrolling people into the army is the most cruel con game ever...

I feel sorry for them, if they only knew.
Woman, you would be surprised, back in my day there was the draft, and if your number came up you were screwed. You had not a choice, I took 4 years which was 2 years longer than the draft called for, because I did not want to be cannon fonder for the army. Remember back then there was not a hent of the internet, or CNN, only the 4 magor networks and sat/cable was not even on the radar at the time, that came 20 or so years later.

But my time was what it was, it is nice to see, that any medical problem is on the gov's dime now....again thanks Ponce for clueing me.

How many that read this have served, at least I EARNED the right. to bitch, unlike most. I feel I am lucky that I did survived. Vietnam was not fun.

they that have served, and have done multiple tours, they did not do it for the stated reasons, they did it because of the family feelings that develop, when you are stuck with a group, to the point that you know them for the good/bad better than your real family..The Adrenalin high is addictive add that with your buds, you do not re-up for the nation, you do it for your friends/other junkys

This nation is facing unlike vietnam people that have served multiple tours in a god forsaken land that in the end, nothing changed. I fully expect to see, some of these time bombs to go off in time. You want to know what is stress is? Or delayed of the same.?

If you have never served, you have the right,to shame ,and bitch but if you never served never judge, unless you have walked in their shoes.

You are background noise..

Walk in my shoes. Or any one that has served if not then shut the fuck up.. Because you are showing your high ignorance.

[singular_me]

Dogman, since you did vietnam, you're not 18 anymore... I think being in the army back then was different from today with all the means of communication at one's disposal.

I didnt want to hurt your feelings BUT when I see young troops on TV, yes in the back of my mind I sorry for them

being drafted is not the same than joining the army to get job with benefits

[Jewboo]

Hay ass lick, you may or not be a citizen of this country...






Woman...Walk in my shoes. Or any one that has served if not then shut the fuck up.. Because you are showing your high ignorance.




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Dogman our resident drunk has reached his limit...........again


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[Dogman]

Dogman, since you did vietnam, you're not 18 anymore... I think being in the army back then was different from today with all the means of communication at one's disposal.

I didnt want to hurt your feelings BUT when I see young troops on TV, yes in the back of my mind I sorry for them Try 63 and counting, one thing about the military the tune changes, but in my time I had no choice and made it into the best I could, even if it took 2 more years which was 4 years serving, vs the two years if I just let the system do its thing.



But!

Do not judge they that walk the path, they have lost lifes/limbs and sanity. Because of our political critters,

Do not judge on something unless you walk the walk,

you have not earned the right...You earn it by walking in their shoes. Anything else is just noise/flack.

[Dogman]

Book, have fun, but you are so wrong, u have not the worth, of the sweat off a real persons balls, I have not a clue how a woman member of the current military would respond to you..

again I hold if you do not walk the walk , you have no right.

Have you served? I think not.

Edit: June 22 second 1970 march 8th 1974. (my life was not my own, the gov owned me) Got an early out. And In so many ways I would do it again.

[Hitch]

Have you served? I think not..

Dogman, respect. Respect to any member of this forum who served.

I've seen my share of shit, enough for a lifetime, but nothing compared to you folks.

Fuck 'em. Life's short and enjoy it. My two bits. OK, troll me now bitches.

[Dogman]

Dogman, respect. Respect to any member of this forum who served.

I've seen my share of shit, enough for a lifetime, but nothing compared to you folks.

Fuck 'em. Life's short and enjoy it. My two bits. OK, troll me now bitches.U really have not a clue, but thanks, for the thoughts. For a huge time I did not admit to being x military because of the shit thrown at us at the time, I was young and dumb then. Let me repeat then.

I do not support the political reasons that our troops have spent their blood and lifes. But any student of history can see that the ones that send us is backed by big bizz. Tho when you have your feet on the ground and someone wants to kill you for the right or wrong. Lets play.

I do agree when bush went into Afghanistan, but we never should have gone into iraq, that was trying to finish what his father did not finish, and blood and lfes were wasted, for what?

I at least have a very good reason, with my drinking,there are ghosts of my past that talk to me, and I was air force, not army those guys had it 1000.000,000 times worse than me.

I got to know several pilots/crew flying F-4's that went up and never came back, Period!

I just sometimes get sick of they the unwashed giving opinions that they are pulling out of their ass's...


I hold Walk the walk, then you earned the right to make an opinion.

Any thing less is just fluff.

[Hitch]

U really have not a clue, but thanks, for the thoughts. .

Fuck off then, Dogman.

[Dogman]

Fuck off then, Dogman.
That could be taken two ways.

Read my posts, I do stand behind them.. Think you have taken something of what I said ..wrong..
Not at all my intent, but solid, if you really want to get into a pissing match, which I do not want to do..
Fire away,

I do think you took my responce wrong, on one of my military posts.

You really need to work on the temper, and look at me, I am the wrong one to give advice.

[Hitch]

Not at all my intent, but solid, if you really want to get into a pissing match, which I do not want to do..
Fire away, .

You called me out. You called me an idiot, and this coming from a man I "thought" I respected.

I stand by what I posted. Fuck 'em.

[Dogman]

You called me out. You called me an idiot, and this coming from a man I "thought" I respected.

I stand by what I posted. Fuck 'em.
There are certian things I hold to and will fight for.

My mistake was quoting you and my quote ether by me by not fully understanding, what was said and went on. My mistake, I have reread this thread, and I think I was in a rare mode, defending and remembering of my past and the ghost's that visit me. Real!

I with this post appoligize to you for my mistake. You are one of the real ones, unlike most on this forum. Which I enjoy being real, even if it causes pain. U know I do not hide like most here.

I still think what I posted was not a disrepect, tho you took it wrong, but your post gave me a open to expand on my history.

But it is what it is, take it like you want, I still concider it an honor knowing you as one of the few real people on this forum.

Hell I am a semioldfartintraining..so take is as you wish.

[collector]

Have you served? I think not.



I think that's the point - who have you served?

[Horn]

I support them so far as being able to make their own decision to serve or not in any action, even after signing on the dotted line.

Remove the income tax, and use an internet congress then the people could choose too.

Outlaws shouldn't be concerned one way or the other, why they are is beyond me.

[hoarder]

Question for those who served: Who did you serve?

[Santa]

Does the farmer support a plague of locusts?

[Cebu_4_2]

Does the farmer support a plague of locusts?

Not on my farm.

[singular_me]

Dogman, I think you are OVERreacting and/or taking too personally... war/army is the scourge of mankind and ever will.

edit
You like to speak of the BIG picture when it comes down to races/money/power (something you and I share)... but it really works the same in all areas of life.






Try 63 and counting, one thing about the military the tune changes, but in my time I had no choice and made it into the best I could, even if it took 2 more years which was 4 years serving, vs the two years if I just let the system do its thing.



But!

Do not judge they that walk the path, they have lost lifes/limbs and sanity. Because of our political critters,

Do not judge on something unless you walk the walk,

you have not earned the right...You earn it by walking in their shoes. Anything else is just noise/flack.

[Jewboo]

I do agree when bush went into Afghanistan...





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Bush visiting his tennis shoe factory boss in the new Viet Nam


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Thank you Dogman for you service in Viet Nam









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:rolleyes: Dogman still getting drunk and whining about Viet Nam in 2014

[iOWNme]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnGHFLXimy0

[Jewboo]

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Dogman's favorite drinking movie in 2014









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Tom Cruise in 2014




:rolleyes:

[BrewTech]

I think that's the point - who have you served?

I take issue with how easily even anti-authoritarians will use the term "serve" when referencing those in the military. It's just another one of those bullshit terms that has been deliberately engineered into the language and culture to give involvement in the military an altruistic connotation. I think many people store the meaning right next door to "serve the Lord" in their brains. Indeed, there is a nearly religious worship of military and LE in the current culture, so it's no surprise that programming these "meanings" in proximity to each other would be the most effective social design.

[Jewboo]

I think enrolling people into the army is the most cruel con game ever... if they only knew.






http://www.hepatitis.va.gov/images/carousel/home-alcohol_brochure.jpg


Some finally figure it out and spend the rest of their lives milking the VA System because their have "Post Traumatic Chump Disorder". The anger of having been a fool. They drink to deaden their inner rage...

[Horn]

Oh geeez book, now we're all going to need a gin and tonic lunch break.

[Neuro]

Dogman, you are banned again. 3 days this time. I do understand Vietnam was a bitch, but it doesn't give you superior rights to be rude and obnoxious, not here at least. As a side note I went to Vietnam, Saigon in 1992, I met amazing people there, and it seemed like they mostly had been able to let bygones be bygones. I can't say I met anyone who held a grudge against the American people, possibly it would have been different in North Vietnam if I had gone there. Anyway see you later...

[Neuro]

Oops, seems like I banned Dogman permanently. But it only seems that way, he will be out in 3 days. Perhaps I need reading glasses. Anyway wrong label on his ban!

[Cebu_4_2]

Oops, seems like I banned Dogman permanently. But it only seems that way, he will be out in 3 days. Perhaps I need reading glasses. Anyway wrong label on his ban!

Wait til he wakes up and sees that! LOL

[madfranks]

Something's fucked up, I tried to access dogman's profile to change the ban status to temporary, but my user control panel is gone! I need to sort this out with JQP.

In the meantime, yes his profile says banned permanently, but it's only for a few days.

[Horn]

I say let him come back as kahlil gibran.

[Jewboo]

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[iOWNme]

What 'Troops' helped the Founders fight the Crown? I must have missed that one in history class.......

'Government' 'Militarys' are NEVER used to set people free. They are used to ENSLAVE them. If 'Governments' wanted to set their own people free, the first thing they would do is go out of existence.

[EE_]

What 'Troops' helped the Founders fight the Crown? I must have missed that one in history class.......

'Government' 'Militarys' are NEVER used to set people free. They are used to ENSLAVE them. If 'Governments' wanted to set their own people free, the first thing they would do is go out of existence.

There's a lot you and I missed in history class...like the history of the Federal Reserve, or the Holodomor, the Khazars, USS Liberty, to name a few.

[mick silver]

they are about to set alot of people free didnt you see were they are buying all that ammo up ...
What 'Troops' helped the Founders fight the Crown? I must have missed that one in history class.......

'Government' 'Militarys' are NEVER used to set people free. They are used to ENSLAVE them. If 'Governments' wanted to set their own people free, the first thing they would do is go out of existence.

[Serpo]

i dont

[iOWNme]

There's a lot you and I missed in history class...like the history of the Federal Reserve, or the Holodomor, the Khazars, USS Liberty, to name a few.

You are totally correct. Yet those are all SYMPTOMS of the problem.

If we keep focusing on the symptoms, the disease (statism) continues to grow until it kills the host (society), and the cycle must end. The only question is WHAT is going to come after the next cycle. The Magna Carta limited what the King could do to his subjects. The US CON limited that down to almost nothing. What do you suppose is the logical conclusion of what should happen the next time the 'system' comes crashing down? Should it be a even smaller 'Government' than the last? At what point will the Myth die out completely?

[Serpo]

Hay ass lick, you may or not be a citizen of this country. Do I support the agenda , no!

But back when I was dumb and young, there was a time when my life was not my own. When I got out I keep my mouth shut, but within the last 2 years, because of Ponce, I found that My service had more meaning than I thought..

I may bitch, but at least I earned the right, unlike most on this forum.


Everyone tries to bring meaning to their lives and our whole lives should have some meaning.

I can understand the frustration of serving in war ,coming back and then realising it was basically for a bunch of arse holes that everyone was fighting and dying for.

You earned no right at all dogman to tell those who chose not to fight unjust wars, in fact it maybe the other way round.

[Serpo]

Y At what point will the Myth die out completely?

Probably around the time when America has a gay president and a transsexual wife........................hahaha

[singular_me]

It is repulsive to think of standing armies, taxation and governments putting us into the debt black hole to go kill innocent people 95% of the time.

[Horn]

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Too cute to ban


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