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Ares
17th March 2014, 06:12 AM
I want you to consider the frightening possibility that we are spending far too much money on schooling, not too little. I want you to consider that we have too many people employed in interfering with the way children grow up — and that all this money and all these people, all the time we take out of children's lives and away from their homes and families and neighborhoods and private explorations — gets in the way of education.

That seems radical, I know. Surely in modern technological society it is the quantity of schooling and the amount of money you spend on it that buys value. And yet last year in St. Louis, I heard a vice-president of IBM tell an audience of people assembled to redesign the process of teacher certification that in his opinion this country became computer-literate by self-teaching, not through any action of schools. He said 45 million people were comfortable with computers who had learned through dozens of non-systematic strategies, none of them very formal; if schools had pre-empted the right to teach computer use we would be in a horrible mess right now instead of leading the world in this literacy. Now think about Sweden, a beautiful, healthy, prosperous and up-to-date country with a spectacular reputation for quality in everything it produces. It makes sense to think their schools must have something to do with that.

Then what do you make of the fact that you can't go to school in Sweden until you are 7 years old? The reason the unsentimental Swedes have wiped out what would be first and seconds grades here is that they don't want to pay the large social bill that quickly comes due when boys and girls are ripped away from their best teachers at home too early.

It just isn't worth the price, say the Swedes, to provide jobs for teachers and therapists if the result is sick, incomplete kids who can't be put back together again very easily. The entire Swedish school sequence isn't 12 years, either — it's nine. Less schooling, not more. The direct savings of such a step in the US would be $75-100 billion, a lot of unforeclosed home mortgages, a lot of time freed up with which to seek an education.

Who was it that decided to force your attention onto Japan instead of Sweden? Japan with its long school year and state compulsion, instead of Sweden with its short school year, short school sequence, and free choice where your kid is schooled? Who decided you should know about Japan and not Hong Kong, an Asian neighbor with a short school year that outperforms Japan across the board in math and science? Whose interests are served by hiding that from you?

One of the principal reasons we got into the mess we're in is that we allowed schooling to become a very profitable monopoly, guaranteed its customers by the police power of the state. Systematic schooling attracts increased investment only when it does poorly, and since there are no penalties at all for such performance, the temptation not to do well is overwhelming. That's because school staffs, both line and management, are involved in a guild system; in that ancient form of association no single member is allowed to outperform any other member, is allowed to advertise or is allowed to introduce new technology or improvise without the advance consent of the guild. Violation of these precepts is severely sanctioned — as Marva Collins, Jaime Escalante and a large number of once-brilliant teachers found out.

The guild reality cannot be broken without returning primary decision-making to parents, letting them buy what they want to buy in schooling, and encouraging the entrepreneurial reality that existed until 1852. That is why I urge any business to think twice before entering a cooperative relationship with the schools we currently have. Cooperating with these places will only make them worse.

The structure of American schooling, 20th century style, began in 1806 when Napoleon's amateur soldiers beat the professional soldiers of Prussia at the battle of Jena. When your business is selling soldiers, losing a battle like that is serious. Almost immediately afterwards a German philosopher named Fichte delivered his famous "Address to the German Nation" which became one of the most influential documents in modern history. In effect he told the Prussian people that the party was over, that the nation would have to shape up through a new Utopian institution of forced schooling in which everyone would learn to take orders.

So the world got compulsion schooling at the end of a state bayonet for the first time in human history; modern forced schooling started in Prussia in 1819 with a clear vision of what centralized schools could deliver:

Obedient soldiers to the army; Obedient workers to the mines; Well subordinated civil servants to government; Well subordinated clerks to industry Citizens who thought alike about major issues.

Schools should create an artificial national consensus on matters that had been worked out in advance by leading German families and the head of institutions. Schools should create unity among all the German states, eventually unifying them into Greater Prussia.

Prussian industry boomed from the beginning. She was successful in warfare and her reputation in international affairs was very high. Twenty-six years after this form of schooling began, the King of Prussia was invited to North America to determine the boundary between the United States and Canada. Thirty-three years after that fateful invention of the central school institution, as the behest of Horace Mann and many other leading citizens, we borrowed the style of Prussian schooling as our own.

You need to know this because over the first 50 years of our school institution Prussian purpose — which was to create a form of state socialism — gradually forced out traditional American purpose, which in most minds was to prepare the individual to be self-reliant.

In Prussia the purpose of the Volksshule, which educated 92 percent of the children, was not intellectual development at all, but socialization in obedience and subordination. Thinking was left to the Real Schulen, in which 8 percent of the kids participated. But for the great mass, intellectual development was regarded with managerial horror, as something that caused armies to lose battles.

Prussia concocted a method based on complex fragmentations to ensure that its school products would fit the grand social design. Some of this method involved dividing whole ideas into school subjects, each further divisible, some of it involved short periods punctuated by a horn so that self-motivation in study would be muted by ceaseless interruptions.

There were many more techniques of training, but all were built around the premise that isolation from first-hand information, and fragmentation of the abstract information presented by teachers, would result in obedient and subordinate graduates, properly respectful of arbitrary orders. "Lesser" men would be unable to interfere with policy makers because, while they could still complain, they could not manage sustained or comprehensive thought. Well-schooled children cannot think critically, cannot argue effectively.

One of the most interesting by-products of Prussian schooling turned out to be the two most devastating wars of modern history. Erich Maria Ramarque, in his classic "All Quiet on the Western Front" tells us that the First World War was caused by the tricks of schoolmasters, and the famous Protestant theologian Dietrich Bonhoeffer said that the Second World War was the inevitable product of good schooling.

It's important to underline that Bonhoeffer meant that literally, not metaphorically — schooling after the Prussian fashion removes the ability of the mind to think for itself. It teaches people to wait for a teacher to tell them what to do and if what they have done is good or bad. Prussian teaching paralyses the moral will as well as the intellect. It's true that sometimes well-schooled students sound smart, because they memorize many opinions of great thinkers, but they actually are badly damaged because their own ability to think is left rudimentary and undeveloped. We got from the United States to Prussia and back because a small number of very passionate ideological leaders visited Prussia in the first half of the 19th century, and fell in love with the order, obedience and efficiency of its system and relentlessly proselytized for a translation of Prussian vision onto these shores.

If Prussia's ultimate goal was the unification of Germany, our major goal, so these men thought, was the unification of hordes of immigrant Catholics into a national consensus based on a northern European cultural model. To do that children would have to be removed from their parents and from inappropriate cultural influence. In this fashion, compulsion schooling, a bad idea that had been around at least since Plato's "Republic", a bad idea that New England had tried to enforce in 1650 without any success, was finally rammed through the Massachusetts legislature in 1852. It was, of course, the famous "Know-Nothing" legislature that passed this law, a legislature that was the leading edge of a famous secret society which flourished at that time known as "The Order of the Star Spangled Banner," whose password was the simple sentence, "I know nothing" — hence the popular label attached to the secret society's political arm, "The American Party." Over the next 50 years state after state followed suit, ending schools of choice and ceding the field to a new government monopoly.

There was one powerful exception to this — the children who could afford to be privately educated. It's important to note that the underlying premise of Prussian schooling is that the government is the true parent of children — the State is sovereign over the family. At the most extreme pole of this notion is the idea that biological parents are really the enemies of their own children, not to be trusted. How did a Prussian system of dumbing children down take hold in American schools?

Thousands and thousands of young men from prominent American families journeyed to Prussia and other parts of Germany during the 19th century and brought home the Ph. D. degree to a nation in which such a credential was unknown. These men pre-empted the top positions in the academic world, in corporate research, and in government, to the point where opportunity was almost closed to those who had not studied in Germany, or who were not the direct disciples of a German PhD, as John Dewey was the disciple of G. Stanley Hall at Johns Hopkins. Virtually every single one of the founders of American schooling had made the pilgrimage to Germany, and many of these men wrote widely circulated reports praising the Teutonic methods. Horace Mann's famous "7th Report" of 1844, still available in large libraries, was perhaps the most important of these.

By 1889, a little more than 100 years ago, the crop was ready for harvest. It that year the US Commissioner of Education, William Torrey Harris, assured a railroad magnate, Collis Huntington, that American schools were "scientifically designed" to prevent "over-education" from happening. The average American would be content with his humble role in life, said the commissioner, because he would not be tempted to think about any other role. My guess is that Harris meant he would not be able to think about any other role. In 1896 the famous John Dewey, then at the University of Chicago, said that independent, self-reliant people were a counter-productive anachronism in the collective society of the future. In modern society, said Dewey, people would be defined by their associations — not by their own individual accomplishments.

It such a world people who read too well or too early are dangerous because they become privately empowered, they know too much, and know how to find out what they don't know by themselves, without consulting experts. Dewey said the great mistake of traditional pedagogy was to make reading and writing constitute the bulk of early schoolwork. He advocated that the phonics method of teaching reading be abandoned and replaced by the whole word method, not because the latter was more efficient (he admitted that it was less efficient) but because independent thinkers were produced by hard books, thinkers who cannot be socialized very easily. By socialization Dewey meant a program of social objectives administered by the best social thinkers in government.

This was a giant step on the road to state socialism, the form pioneered in Prussia, and it is a vision radically disconnected with the American past, its historic hopes and dreams. Dewey's former professor and close friend, G. Stanley Hall, said this at about the same time, "Reading should no longer be a fetish. Little attention should be paid to reading." Hall was one of the three men most responsible for building a gigantic administrative infrastructure over the classroom. How enormous that structure really became can only be understood by comparisons: New York State, for instance, employs more school administrators than all of the European Economic Community nations combined.

Once you think that the control of conduct is what schools are about, the word "reform" takes on a very particular meaning. It means making adjustments to the machine so that young subjects will not twist and turn so, while their minds and bodies are being scientifically controlled. Helping kids to use their minds better is beside the point. Bertrand Russell once observed that American schooling was among the most radical experiments in human history, that America was deliberately denying its children the tools of critical thinking. When you want to teach children to think, you begin by treating them seriously when they are little, giving them responsibilities, talking to them candidly, providing privacy and solitude for them, and making them readers and thinkers of significant thoughts from the beginning. That's if you want to teach them to think.

There is no evidence that this has been a State purpose since the start of compulsion schooling. When Frederich Froebel, the inventor of kindergarten in 19th century Germany, fashioned his idea he did not have a "garden for children" in mind, but a metaphor of teachers as gardeners and children as the vegetables. Kindergarten was created to be a way to break the influence of mothers on their children. I note with interest the growth of daycare in the US and the repeated urgings to extend school downward to include 4-year-olds.

The movement toward state socialism is not some historical curiosity but a powerful dynamic force in the world around us. It is fighting for its life against those forces which would, through vouchers or tax credits, deprive it of financial lifeblood, and it has countered this thrust with a demand for even more control over children's lives, and even more money to pay for the extended school day and year that this control requires.

A movement as visibly destructive to individuality, family and community as government-system schooling has been might be expected to collapse in the face of its dismal record, coupled with an increasingly aggressive shake down of the taxpayer, but this has not happened. The explanation is largely found in the transformation of schooling from a simple service to families and towns to an enormous, centralized corporate enterprise.

While this development has had a markedly adverse effect on people and on our democratic traditions, it has made schooling the single largest employer in the United States, and the largest grantor of contracts next to the Defense Department. Both of these low-visibility phenomena provide monopoly schooling with powerful political friends, publicists, advocates and other useful allies. This is a large part of the explanation why no amount of failure ever changes things in schools, or changes them for very long. School people are in a position to outlast any storm and to keep short-attention-span public scrutiny thoroughly confused.

An overview of the short history of this institution reveals a pattern marked by intervals of public outrage, followed by enlargement of the monopoly in every case.

After nearly 30 years spent inside a number of public schools, some considered good, some bad, I feel certain that management cannot clean its own house. It relentlessly marginalizes all significant change. There are no incentives for the "owners" of the structure to reform it, nor can there be without outside competition.

What is needed for several decades is the kind of wildly-swinging free market we had at the beginning of our national history. It cannot be overemphasized that no body of theory exists to accurately define the way children learn, or which learning is of most worth. By pretending the existence of such we have cut ourselves off from the information and innovation that only a real market can provide. Fortunately our national situation has been so favorable, so dominant through most of our history, that the margin of error afforded has been vast.

But the future is not so clear. Violence, narcotic addictions, divorce, alcoholism, loneliness...all these are but tangible measures of a poverty in education. Surely schools, as the institutions monopolizing the daytimes of childhood, can be called to account for this. In a democracy the final judges cannot be experts, but only the people.

Trust the people, give them choices, and the school nightmare will vanish in a generation.

http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/Educate/public_school_nightmare.htm

horseshoe3
17th March 2014, 08:49 AM
With 2 children nearing school age, I've been spending a lot of time researching curriculi for home schooling. I recently came across the Robinson curriculum. It emphasizes self teaching with minimal instruction time. Children progress through their lessons as they are ready. They solve every problem without help and they rework the ones they miss until they figure it out. The idea is that if you run to the teacher or parent every time you get stuck you will never learn to solve your own problems and think for yourself. This curriculum seems to rest on the idea that children are curious and want to learn. That they will learn unless that desire gets beaten out of them by organized education.

http://www.robinsoncurriculum.com/view/rc/s31p54.htm

Ares
17th March 2014, 08:51 AM
With 2 children nearing school age, I've been spending a lot of time researching curriculi for home schooling. I recently came across the Robinson curriculum. It emphasizes self teaching with minimal instruction time. Children progress through their lessons as they are ready. They solve every problem without help and they rework the ones they miss until they figure it out. The idea is that if you run to the teacher or parent every time you get stuck you will never learn to solve your own problems and think for yourself. This curriculum seems to rest on the idea that children are curious and want to learn. That they will learn unless that desire gets beaten out of them by organized education.

http://www.robinsoncurriculum.com/view/rc/s31p54.htm

That's the way humans have learned until the state got involved in organized "education". An educated, self aware individual doesn't need or depend on the state for anything. So is more reluctant to support it. It's all by design.

Twisted Titan
17th March 2014, 01:50 PM
Thanks for the article and the cirruculeum

I will be checking both of them out.

My desire is to have a private tutor teach My Wee One.



The Original Arictle only strenghthens my resolve to keep her out of any "formal" education system plus i have the added benifit of not fighting with vaccine police

Ares
17th March 2014, 01:53 PM
Thanks for the article and the cirruculeum

I will be checking both of them out.

My desire is to have a private tutor teach My Wee One.



The Original Arictle only strenghthens my resolve to keep her out of any "formal" education system plus i have the added benifit of not fighting with vaccine police

We have our little one in a day care. But here down south, it's one of the "premiere" private day cares in the area. She has learned a lot and likes going. We have a couple more years before school. We don't want her to go to a public school, that much is sure. With both of us working 9 to 5's don't have the ability to home school... So Private School next best thing.... we hope anyway.

Cebu_4_2
17th March 2014, 02:02 PM
We have our little one in a day care. But here down south, it's one of the "premiere" private day cares in the area. She has learned a lot and likes going. We have a couple more years about school. We don't want her to go to a public school, that much is sure. With both of us working 9 to 5's don't have the ability to home school... So Private School next best thing.... we hope anyway.

There are some academy schools that are private and inexpensive or free. At least one of my friends sent his kid there and was very happy saying it is the same as private pay schools. There were none in my area at the time so I couldn't check into it myself.

I went way beyond teaching my kid prior to public school and once he was at daycare he knew 'too much' and was bored. The 'leader' called my kids mother into her office and threatened that he wouldn't be able to go to kindergarten unless he is on 'hyperactivity medication' and that's when the war started. That war is an ugly thing and I wish that on no one.

I will get another chance to try it again soon enough but this time I have a whole lot more knowledge and have more options plus a future mother that is way more educated then my 1st wife.

chad
17th March 2014, 02:50 PM
my kids go to catholic school. there is no diversity. they kick out all of the asses. nuns berate them and make them learn shitloads of religious stuff. they both scored in the top 1% the last two years of the iowa test of basic skills, and i assure you this is not because they inherited some high iq from their parents (well, maybe from my wife). they are light years ahead of public school kids their same age.

of course, they are ignorant of global warming, faggotry, and social justice, but then i do have to make some sacrifices.

MNeagle
17th March 2014, 03:39 PM
I thought you lived in WI?

horseshoe3
17th March 2014, 06:56 PM
I thought you lived in WI?

The Iowa Test is a standardized test that is given all across the country.

Hatha Sunahara
17th March 2014, 07:13 PM
Excellent summary of the history and character of 'Conform and Obey'. The wonder of it is that it is all done without anyone ever uttering those two words (conform and obey). It's not something the founding fathers would have envisioned for free people.

Also, interesting that education was undermined by the elite visiting and learning from the Germans. Today the elite are visiting and learning from Israelis. Maybe this is how to deal with people who don't 'conform and obey'.


Hatha

Cebu_4_2
17th March 2014, 07:39 PM
You can NOT send your kid to public school without the 36 (?) mandated vaccinations prior to kindergarten.

Private schools are mor flexible but want to conform.

Only option is to home school which is fine but it does lack intervention with others... not sure how to explain that.

A home school friendly state makes things pretty easy, other states make it known that they or the Fed owns your kids...

milehi
17th March 2014, 08:00 PM
You might look into an online charter school. I had my kids enrolled before private school. I wonder if charters are now teaching common core?

vacuum
17th March 2014, 10:27 PM
The Khan Academy is a bunch of free youtube videos that teach different subjects:
https://www.khanacademy.org/#library-section

It's a good resource.

chad
18th March 2014, 07:06 AM
I thought you lived in WI?

they give it almost everywhere now.

Ares
18th March 2014, 07:12 AM
You can NOT send your kid to public school without the 36 (?) mandated vaccinations prior to kindergarten.

Private schools are mor flexible but want to conform.

Only option is to home school which is fine but it does lack intervention with others... not sure how to explain that.

A home school friendly state makes things pretty easy, other states make it known that they or the Fed owns your kids...

Look into Exemptions. I used the religious Exemption in Indiana and here in North Carolina. Some states allow for a philosophical exemption, but Indiana nor North Carolina offer that, so I chose religion. :)

Hatha Sunahara
18th March 2014, 08:49 AM
For all those people who think that doing well in school is a good thing, I offer you this.

The primary determinant for becoming rich and powerful is not education. It's not what you know, it's WHOM you know. You have a much better chance of knowing the right people (being included in the NETWORK of the rich and powerful) if you are born into a rich and powerful family. So, your chances are pretty slim if you do not belong to the right class. It is your connections that get you ahead. The rich and powerful are always looking for talent because they have a lot of jobs available for highly talented people. However to be selected for any such job, talent is not enough. You have to have talent but much more importantly, you have to be LOYAL and OBEDIENT because they need to trust you to faithfully execute their evil agenda. For this reason, most selections are made from within their own elite class.

The value of education is only to assure that the dead end jobs are filled with people who can follow orders and not get into trouble--hence it heavily emphasizes CONFORMITY and OBEDIENCE. Critical thinking skills are antithetical to that. The bottom line is that you are either selected on the basis of loyalty and obedience or you are neutered by being denied training in critical thinking skills.

'Success' is not only not what you think it is, it is ultimately being a puppet for people following an evil agenda. People who are both smart and sane do not want to 'succeed' in a conventional sense, but in a way that assures them continuing happiness. The path to that end does not go through the public education system.



Hatha

Cebu_4_2
18th March 2014, 10:21 AM
Look into Exemptions. I used the religious Exemption in Indiana and here in North Carolina. Some states allow for a philosophical exemption, but Indiana nor North Carolina offer that, so I chose religion. :)

In TN there is no philosophical exemption, the religious one is pretty strict too.

Serpo
18th March 2014, 11:22 AM
I regret a lot of the time I spent at some boring classes at school and how they fill your head with crap and it took me 18months after leaving to shake it all out,I realise now it was brainwashing.

I mean this is the best time of your life and they send you to school(unpaid) for how many years to learn what........stuff THEY want you to know.


They dont like home schooling and yet there have been so many shootings at schools..............

Jewboo
18th March 2014, 11:25 AM
The primary determinant for becoming rich and powerful is not education. It's not what you know, it's WHOM you know. You have a much better chance of knowing the right people (being included in the NETWORK of the rich and powerful) if you are born into a rich and powerful family....The path to that end does not go through the public education system.

Hatha


http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/ac1394dbdcca6a36cbf486633b129cd813095ac3/r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2012/10/26/a03-integrated-schools-29-4_3.jpg

http://atlantablackstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/black-student.gif

http://www.streetgangs.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/13514700_BG2.jpg
Six students of a North Charleston high school were arrested and charged as a result of a Nov. 12 gang “beat out...”



http://onlineathens.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/full/Atlanta%20School%20Shooti_Hugh_0.jpg
Yo...We goin' to Whitey Skool





:rolleyes: Rich and Powerful never send their own kids to goyim public schools

mick silver
18th March 2014, 11:26 AM
dam i hope you guys fine away to keep your kids out of the public schools system . i never heard of it but could one look for someone thats schooling there kids at home and pay them something to teach your kid at there home

Serpo
19th March 2014, 01:59 PM
This slots right into this thread title...................

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2584449/Chinese-schoolboy-leaps-death-classroom-horrific-footage-posted-online.html

Buddha
19th March 2014, 03:29 PM
Well as a product of an inner city public school system I can tell you that it fucking sucked all testicals and no shaft... Most teachers didn't care, Most students didn't care, being white I was in the minority... talk about fore-shadowing. Never fought so much in my life, bag searches and metal detectors and pat downs every day, no wonder the few times ive been in jail for 24 hours I've felt comfortable. There was a time for about a week or 2 when there was no hot water and no hot food... we actually protested.... mom saw me on the local news and beat my ass

lapis
20th March 2014, 01:55 PM
With 2 children nearing school age, I've been spending a lot of time researching curriculi for home schooling.

You may want to look into Thomas Jefferson Education, also known as TJEd. It's based on reading the classics, and getting an old-fashioned classical education.

http://www.tjed.org/

lapis
20th March 2014, 01:57 PM
Look into Exemptions. I used the religious Exemption in Indiana and here in North Carolina. Some states allow for a philosophical exemption, but Indiana nor North Carolina offer that, so I chose religion. :)

Currently all states except Mississippi and West Virginia have exemptions, although the fascists are trying to make it harder to get them.

Twisted Titan
20th March 2014, 04:05 PM
This slots right into this thread title...................

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2584449/Chinese-schoolboy-leaps-death-classroom-horrific-footage-posted-online.html

Almost 300k chinese kill themsevels every year.

If you believe that bogus figure.

The reality is far worse.

cheka.
4th January 2016, 08:42 AM
same thing is going on in our local district in tx. the last chance to bring some discipline to the thugs before they meet the POlice. stripped away by gov....gov WANTS violent immoral thugs

http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/black-leader-schools-must-discipline-out-of-control-angry-thugs/

Black leader: Schools must discipline 'out-of-control, angry thugs'

Reacts to reluctance at St. Paul, Minn., schools to punish troublemakers

Increasingly frequent violent actions by students have driven the St. Paul, Minnesota, teachers union to threaten a strike against the administrators – who essentially have mandated that the violence go unpunished.

The situation is turning Jesse Lee Peterson, author of the new book “The Antidote,” incredulous.

The official school policy discourages out-of-school suspensions, and many other forms of punishment, especially for black students, who reportedly have been involved in multiple violent acts.

“It was just shocking to hear they would no longer discipline these out-of-control, angry thugs that have been raised, or are being raised, by parents who couldn’t care less about them,” Peterson charged.

He long has maintained that fatherlessness is a root cause of the decay in the black community, and he believes it is also the reason many black students misbehave in school.

“Most of these black children are born out of wedlock,” Peterson said. “Out of wedlock! They do not have fathers there to guide them, to protect them, to provide for them, to be an example for them, to discipline them, and it’s impossible almost for mothers to do it.

“These kids are growing up angry in the homes; they go out into the community or in public, and they are told that it’s racism and not a lack of moral character or bad parenting [that causes their problems], and so they’re out of control.”

St. Paul school administrators view the problem, well, differently.

The district contracts with a California non-profit called the Pacific Educational Group, which believes black children struggle in school because of “systemic racism.”

The PEG’s goal is to combat what its officials see as “white privilege” in the public school system, and one of the ways they do that is by urging schools to greatly decrease out-of-school suspensions for black students.

So, according to EAG News, St. Paul school administrators replaced suspensions with “time outs” and started forgiving or ignoring violent or unruly actions by black students.

The result was an increase in violent behavior because students knew they would face little to no punishment for their actions.

The Star Tribune of St. Paul reported data from the St. Paul Police Department: From Jan. 1 through the end of October this year, police were called to public schools 118 times for assaults, 30 times for disturbances and fights, and 26 times for weapons. However, the police department did not report in how many of those incidents teachers were the targets.

Aaron Benner, a black former St. Paul teacher, has publicly blamed school administrators for fostering a hostile environment by failing to punish black troublemakers. Benner told EAG News a black boy punched him in 2011, but the principal brought the student back into the classroom 10 minutes later with no punishment of any kind.

Benner also lambasted PEG, saying the organization considers shouting out in class to be a “black cultural norm.”

Peterson, for his part, scoffed at the idea of black cultural norms.

“What are black norms?” Peterson asked. “Do the right thing, work hard, don’t be angry, treat people the way you’d like to be treated, respect your neighbor – those are God’s norms. But they want to blame it on white Americans because [the black community is] failing. The lack of character, the lack of respect, the lack of having children under the umbrella of marriage – it’s not working. And so instead of correcting themselves, they’re trying to blame it on white people again. It’s only going to get worse before it gets better.”

cheka.
4th January 2016, 08:45 AM
You can NOT send your kid to public school without the 36 (?) mandated vaccinations prior to kindergarten.

Private schools are mor flexible but want to conform.

Only option is to home school which is fine but it does lack intervention with others... not sure how to explain that.

A home school friendly state makes things pretty easy, other states make it known that they or the Fed owns your kids...

in tx there is an exemption form you get from the state gov. we've fought the fight (public, private, private) -- and won all three

the skoolz flat-out LIE to the parents telling them they MUST

mick silver
4th January 2016, 11:05 AM
in four months there been 90 teachers quit there jobs in the big shitty city near me because of the black kids fighting them

Cebu_4_2
5th January 2016, 03:08 PM
in tx there is an exemption form you get from the state gov. we've fought the fight (public, private, private) -- and won all three

the skoolz flat-out LIE to the parents telling them they MUST


You have any idea what it's called? I can't seem to find anything like it.

MNeagle
5th January 2016, 04:01 PM
You have any idea what it's called? I can't seem to find anything like it.

In our state we have 2 exemption options to the school immunization law:
a.) Medical exemption
b.) Conscientious exemption

Ask the school for a form, fill it out, notarized & done. (Least here in a non-Common Core state). Be sure to keep copies, lest they go 'missing'.

Cebu_4_2
5th January 2016, 05:22 PM
This is all TN has:

Children with medical or religious exemption to requirements




Medical - Physicians (MD or DO) or Public Health Nurses are authorized to indicate specific vaccines medically exempted (because of risk of harm) on the certificate. Other vaccines remain required. The medical reason for the exemption does not need to be provided.

Religious - This exemption requires a signed statement by the parent/guardian that vaccination conflicts with their religious tenets or practices. If the child needs documentation of a health examination for the school, it must be noted by the healthcare provider on the immunization certificate. In that case, the provider should check the box in section 1a. that the parent has sought a religious exemption to explain why immunization information is absent or incomplete.


With penalty of purgery.

cheka.
5th January 2016, 08:31 PM
You have any idea what it's called? I can't seem to find anything like it.

google search yields this: https://www.google.com/search?q=texas+form+vaccination+exemption+school&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

note the second result is pdf page from the state

this site has some info too -- http://www.vaccineinfo.net/exemptions/

let me know if you need more info

Cebu_4_2
6th January 2016, 12:47 AM
google search yields this: https://www.google.com/search?q=texas+form+vaccination+exemption+school&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

note the second result is pdf page from the state

this site has some info too -- http://www.vaccineinfo.net/exemptions/

let me know if you need more info


TX much different than TN... I might move before this needs to be taken care of because of the fact.

cheka.
9th January 2016, 08:45 PM
http://wreg.com/2016/01/07/trayvon-martin-image-in-class-about-slavery-causes-anger/

DAYTON, Nev. –An image used in a high school class about slavery has caused controversy at one school.

A student at Dayton High School told his father he lost points on his final grade because there were “disturbing” images on the test and he wasn’t sure how to answer them.

One image, by artist Michael D’Antuono, shows a white police officer in a KKK hood pointing a gun at a small black male in a hoodie holding a bag of Skittles.

The image, called A Tale of Two Hoodies, is supposed to represent the killing of Trayon Martin.

Many people on social media have pointed out Martin was not shot by a police officer, but by George Zimmerman.

https://localtvwreg.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/trayvon-image.jpg

mick silver
11th January 2016, 07:49 AM
http://yourworldnews.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/tumblr_ms5shyeTG41rfgmbqo1_1280-300x300.jpg (http://yourworldnews.org/blog/?p=4593)

mick silver
11th January 2016, 07:50 AM
http://yourworldnews.org/blog/?p=4593The United States Educational System:
A Perfect Structure for Psychologically Destroying Black YouthBy Solomon Comissiong
Some people say that the United States educational system is a broken one, especially in regard to its overall negative impact on African/black children, however if we honestly and contextually assess this, it is easy to see that this system is not technically ‘broken’.
The United States so-called educational system was never intended to comprehensively educate African/black children (or children of color, in general). It was never intended to culturally edify African/black children, especially in regard to their rich African cultural history. This system is working just as it has always been intended to work, and that is to indoctrinate children to extol white supremacy, love capitalism/rugged individualism—and to retard their critical thinking. Their school days begin with the mindless pledging of allegiance to a flag that has never had their best interests in mind. It has never valued the lives of children of color in the same manner it does white children. They are then taught to sing white supremacist songs like the “Star Spangled Banner”, written by a man (Francis Scott Key) who was a devoted owner of enslaved Africans. When we really ponder these things it sounds more like a sci-fi flick in which the most oppressed have been trained to ritualistically worship the legacy and culture of those who oppressed them. It is a case study in mind control and indoctrination.
This system does not look favorably upon those who are critical thinkers. Critical thinkers represent a viable threat to the overall exploitative nature of the system itself. Unfortunately most “Americans” have aimlessly traversed through this so-called educational system, which is why they seldom question the US government’s imperialist wars, military spending, or even its nefarious system of capitalism—-one that robs them of universal healthcare, free higher education or even a uniform livable wage. This impacts all “American” children, however it is children of color that are the most negatively impacted, because they are taught to praise historical figures who would have enslaved them, as well as to accept an institutionally racist system that preys upon their communities—every second of every day. They are, in essence, trained to accept the system that continues to systematically oppress their neighborhoods. The last thing the United States ruling class needs is for masses of children color to become angered at this country’s institutionally racist society—or even realize that it exists. Comprehension of this nefarious social system would lend itself to these children rejecting an array of false narratives that have been force fed to them.
Children of color are routinely taught that a slave masters such as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin, were their ‘Founding Fathers’. There is no mention whatsoever, within US classrooms, that these men were devoted slave masters to African people, as well as proud white supremacist. It is not just that the images of these men (and many more) are riddled throughout US society, it is also that these kinds of men are routinely introduced as righteous men who were champions of life, liberty and the overall pursuit of happiness. Essentially African/black children are taught to extol men who brutally enslaved their ancestors, and would have enslaved them too, had they lived during the epoch in which these evil men existed. In and of itself, this practice is sadistic and backwards, however within the United States it is commonplace. A fair comparison could be made that this would be akin to teaching young women or girls to celebrate serial rapists. Given the fact that some of these men either condoned the raping of women of color, or participated, it is not far fetched at all. Even though Christopher Columbus is not considered a “Founding Father”, he does have a Federal US holiday in is name. He was not only a rapist; he was a mass murderer and mutilator of indigenous women, men and children.
Teaching children to celebrate these devilish men, and their actions, is a stable component of an educational system that is part of a much larger system of white supremacy and oppression. White supremacy is evil and cares nothing about the perspectives, feelings or lives of those who it has trampled upon. It does not care or wish to place in factual context the history of how the United States was built or how the land was acquired. This would involve explanations of plunder, mass murdering campaigns, systematic chattel slavery, medical experimentations, torture, brutality—the list could go on for days. Furthermore, a contextual explanation would naturally lead to the understanding as to why the United States continues to enslave African/black people via the prison industry complex, as well as why it brutalizes that same community via rampant police terror. A country founded upon a legacy of murder, plunder, massacre and slavery, is destined to be violent and pervasively unjust…unless it is radically deconstructed and then reconstructed into a much more humane foundation. The United States has such a history and very much is a contemporary society riddled with state sponsored violence and widespread injustice.
The United States’ system of education has been widely successful in culturally decapitating the minds of countless children of color. This is a country that established “Indian Schools”, to ‘civilize’ the indigenous people. However, it was not the Native Americans, who needed civilizing, it was the barbaric Europeans who violently stole the land. The whites set up the “Indian Schools” as a method to further control the indigenous people whose land they stole. These shiftless nefarious whites also aimed to force the natives to assimilate into the same Eurocentric culture that was barbarically raining hell upon their people. African/black children were forced to assimilate in similar ways. Whites never wanted the youth of oppressed peoples to think critically about their conditions, nor did the want to them be culturally edified. If the youth are taught to critically think, and have cultural pride—-they will at the very least reject all aspects of their oppressors’ mores. And even more, they will invoke social revolutions aimed at overturning systems of oppression that have kept their communities repressed for centuries.
White people have always been afraid of people of color who not only are intrepid in the face of their bigotry, but who also reject flawed Eurocentric standards and “values”. Eurocentric ideals have long embraced individualism over communalism, war over peace and usurpation over sharing and broad distribution. History, quite frankly, does not lie. An honest historical view of the impact of European conquest puts things in an accurate, yet horrifying, light. The classic Euro-American capitalistic and imperialistic model is unsustainable in a modern and humane world. These are largely predicated on values that are detrimental to children from all walks of life, especially children of color.
Independent African/black schools that promote critical thought and cultural edification are remedies to the plague of white supremacy. Schools that stifle cultural pride and analytical thought are detrimental to the holistic growth of the African/black child. Schools that do this are detrimental to African/black communities. There not only needs to be African/black community control of the policing, there needs to be that same community control of the public schools within our neighborhoods. African/black communities must continue to organize and vehemently reject the charter school scheme. It is a racist and capitalist (sorry for being redundant) attack on schools within communities of color. The amoral conductors of this nefarious ploy aim to corporatize education, thus making schools in communities of color, commodities—just like widgets. This is wholly anti-African/black, and against the collective interests of our communities. Schools in 2015 are just as segregated as they were in the 1960s, however white children are not subjected or under widespread threat of the charter school scheme. Separate and unequal is the name of their game. The white elites who fuel this institutionally racist scheme know very well how successful African/black children would be if there was community control of these schools, which is why they have created numerous machinations aimed at preventing it.
Until a true critical mass organize and repudiate this system (in a concerted way), the structure and its deleterious impact will live on—-in perpetuity. It must be rejected, then it must be deconstructed to be reconstructed, into something much more humane, egalitarian and effective in holistically educating youth! This is especially true for youth of color, whose communities have been subjected to centuries of brutal oppression and systematic racism. When elders within their communities were controlling African/black children’s education, these children were holistically educated. This community controlled education included strong training in mathematics, sciences, reading, writing, and geography. It also included cultural edification, community engagement, entrepreneurship and vocational skill sets. Their education was holistic because the community had a vested interest in the children’s overall success. That is not the case in so-called mainstream US society where influential segments of Euro-America mainly see African/black children as commodities to be used to further tighten their concentration of wealth.
We must regain control of school boards, implement analytical thinking, media literacy, cooperative wealth building, and cultural competency within the curricula. There should even be a community health component that incorporates practices for maintaining healthy lifestyles. We must take revolutionary approaches that contribute to the construction of school systems that are conducive in developing the whole child—-mind, and body. Without trying to sound cliché, children are our future. This current p system is destructive to their overall wellbeing. Collectively investing in our children today is a major step toward ensuring that we have a brighter tomorrow.
Solomon Comissiong (www.solomoncomissiong.com) is an educator, community activist, author, and Founder of the Your World News Media Collective (www.yourworldnews.org). Solomon is the author of A Hip Hop Activist Speaks Out on Social Issues. Solomon is also the writer and producer of the documentary, Hip Hop, White Supremacy & Capitalism: Why Corporations Infiltrated RAP Music. He can be reached at: solo@yourworldnews.org

cheka.
25th May 2016, 11:55 AM
erie, pa says f-ck it, close all 4 high schools

like a town that size needs 4? wtf..

the article is all about the comment section -- lots of insight

http://www.goerie.com/article/20160520/OPINION02/305209925/close-erie-high-schools

ERIE, Pa. -- After years of massive spending cuts and educational cuts, the Erie School District still isn't close to being able to pay its bills. In addition to considering the elimination of sports, extracurricular activities and school libraries, Erie schools Superintendent Jay Badams has posed the possibility of closing Erie's four high schools in the 2017-18 school year and dispersing their students to surrounding school districts.

We asked our friends on the GoErie.com/Erie Times-News Facebook page about whether that option would be necessary or feasible, and about anything else the city school system could do to dig out of its financial hole. Here's some of what they had to say.