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EE_
31st March 2014, 07:45 AM
I can't believe I was douped?

I watch CNBC and now I'm told all those guys at the exchange are just a photo Op ???

So that's where all the billions are coming from and into a chosen few's pockets to buy super yachts, private jets, megga-mansions and private islands.

This guy is making some people uncomfortable.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BweADB78tBY

His book just came out exposing the Jewish scam.

http://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2014/03/30/15c5efdb-7e3e-48f5-b904-e4bd842c2779/thumbnail/380x240/c82421919834e13de78f1122c1ef14bd/60ot-0330-origmichael1-640x360.jpg

These people should be rounded up, stripped of their wealth and stuffed into a big oven!

http://www.jewishproblem.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/coward-jew-scared-to-death.png

Hatha Sunahara
31st March 2014, 08:40 AM
Even before high frequency trading there was the Exchange Stabilization Fund which has trillions of $ freshly printed by the Fed for the CIA and Treasury to use to prop up and inflate markets everywhere. The elite have now pumped up the NYSE and other stock markets to record highs, and with the help of the media have lured all the sheeple to 'invest' their savings by buying stock at pumped up prices. Soon, when everybody is bought in, they will crash the stock markets, and TPTB will own all the money and everybody else will be poor and have to sell their houses at rock bottom prices just to survive.

I can't believe you've been duped. I think you are just saying that 'tongue in cheek'. Should I be worried? I own stock in gold mining companies.


Hatha

Ares
31st March 2014, 10:30 AM
JQP, we need a new section on Gold-silver.us. Call it the "No shit" section. Then move this article to it.. LOL

We've all known the market has been rigged.

EE_
31st March 2014, 10:45 AM
Come on, you didn't really think I didn't know the market is rigged...always has been.
I just posted it this way to show this video/book that has the Wall Street Jews upset that it might short them a few shekels out of the stupid goyim.

old steel
31st March 2014, 10:53 AM
Then there is this:

"nbc is somewhat downplaying this story claiming its just a penny? LOL no.... THE PROBLEM IS: not being able to get out of a trade you assholes because the bid keeps falling as i am trying to sell. BECAUSE THEY CAN SEE MY ORDER BEFORE IT HITS.

this is the biggest whitewash story i have seen in a long time.

the NYSE specialist class action was a big deal in 2003... guess what happened? they fined them 250 million... disbursed 150 million and kept 100 million in the treasury run by goldman sachs devils.

then they dragged out the civil class action for over a decade and then settled with law firms that seemed to "not have the best interest of their clients" for some paultry sum of like 19 million.

the sheeple never knew. so besically steal billions and billions and get caught and pay 169 million in fines and not even to the ones injured. then they found a new way to rig the markets via HFT.

LOL....... dont blame them though... blame your neighbors and family that dont give a shit. that only care about weekend football and the cars they drive and going to some filthy demonic movie that destroys their moral fabric.

i love that cbs mentions goldman as a victim in this story..... i know they used to make 100 to 200 million a day off of hft. enter the new volker rule?" LMAO!

mick silver
31st March 2014, 10:55 AM
there was something on 60 min last night they are finding faster ways to trade . that way they can know what you buying in the stock market before you buy . they buy then sale it to you . they know before you make the buy it go to them first "60 Minutes" investigates high-frequency trading


March 31, 2014, 7:02 AM|"60 Minutes" correspondent Steve Kroft revealed Sunday night how a few stock market insiders are making billions in high-frequency trading. Kroft spoke with Michael Lewis, the author of "Flash Boys," about how insiders are raising the costs of stocks for ordinary investors.


Related Videos http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/60-minutes-investigates-high-frequency-trading/

Cebu_4_2
31st March 2014, 10:57 AM
I have 80K saying it isn't.

Oops, did have, lost it in the fucking market.

EE_
31st March 2014, 11:05 AM
Then there is this:

"nbc is somewhat downplaying this story claiming its just a penny? LOL no.... THE PROBLEM IS: not being able to get out of a trade you assholes because the bid keeps falling as i am trying to sell. BECAUSE THEY CAN SEE MY ORDER BEFORE IT HITS.

this is the biggest whitewash story i have seen in a long time.

the NYSE specialist class action was a big deal in 2003... guess what happened? they fined them 250 million... disbursed 150 million and kept 100 million in the treasury run by goldman sachs devils.

then they dragged out the civil class action for over a decade and then settled with law firms that seemed to "not have the best interest of their clients" for some paultry sum of like 19 million.

the sheeple never knew. so besically steal billions and billions and get caught and pay 169 million in fines and not even to the ones injured. then they found a new way to rig the markets via HFT.

LOL....... dont blame them though... blame your neighbors and family that dont give a shit. that only care about weekend football and the cars they drive and going to some filthy demonic movie that destroys their moral fabric.

i love that cbs mentions goldman as a victim in this story..... i know they used to make 100 to 200 million a day off of hft. enter the new volker rule?" LMAO!

I heard someone say before it's only a penny here and there. Well, high-frequency trading is 80% of the market volume!
That sounds like a lot of pennies!

A penny is a lot to a Jew...a penny created the Grand Canyon, when a Jew dropped a penny down a crack.

What they are doing is front running the trades. The computer sees the large trades come in and holds them back while the Jew machines buy first.

mick silver
31st March 2014, 11:50 AM
good vid everyone needs to watch and learn who your controllers are

Serpo
31st March 2014, 02:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDgqTt2ao7ghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDgqTt2ao7g

singular_me
31st March 2014, 03:55 PM
maybe 3 weeks ago, I watched a doc about high frequency trading following sell-and-by-algorhythms and to me, it was clear that it IS the ultimate con-game in the entire galaxy.




Even before high frequency trading there was the Exchange Stabilization Fund which has trillions of $ freshly printed by the Fed for the CIA and Treasury to use to prop up and inflate markets everywhere. The elite have now pumped up the NYSE and other stock markets to record highs, and with the help of the media have lured all the sheeple to 'invest' their savings by buying stock at pumped up prices. Soon, when everybody is bought in, they will crash the stock markets, and TPTB will own all the money and everybody else will be poor and have to sell their houses at rock bottom prices just to survive.

I can't believe you've been duped. I think you are just saying that 'tongue in cheek'. Should I be worried? I own stock in gold mining companies.


Hatha

Spectrism
31st March 2014, 04:43 PM
JQP, we need a new section on Gold-silver.us. Call it the "No shit" section. Then move this article to it.. LOL

We've all known the market has been rigged.


Yes- we knew this LONG ago. So... why was it allowed to go public on a commie station? What is their motive?

old steel
31st March 2014, 06:15 PM
The Coming Economic Collapse Is Planned (http://www.dojoryo.com/posts/2014/3/31/the-coming-economic-collapse-is-planned)http://www.dojoryo.com/

Silver Rocket Bitches!
31st March 2014, 06:23 PM
This info has been available for years now on sites like ZH. The thing that is different this time around is the info is going mainstream. This 60 minutes piece is going all around the news channels forcing people who normally wouldn't take notice to sit up and ask "is my 401k / pension safe?" This could be priming for the inevitable crash that is coming any day now. Misdirection if you will.

Cebu_4_2
31st March 2014, 06:30 PM
This info has been available for years now on sites like ZH. The thing that is different this time around is the info is going mainstream. This 60 minutes piece is going all around the news channels forcing people who normally wouldn't take notice to sit up and ask "is my 401k / pension safe?" This could be priming for the inevitable crash that is coming any day now. Misdirection if you will.

If they are going mainstream they are trying to distract us. Watch carefully now.

singular_me
31st March 2014, 07:29 PM
this iis only a gentle reminder

maybe after the world demise, the gillotine will be brought back?

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mick silver
31st March 2014, 07:29 PM
I seen on the news to night the fbi been looking into this for a year now

Santa
31st March 2014, 08:21 PM
I seen on the news to night the fbi been looking into this for a year now

Wow! The FBI? That makes me feel safer.

Spectrism
31st March 2014, 08:33 PM
This info has been available for years now on sites like ZH. The thing that is different this time around is the info is going mainstream. This 60 minutes piece is going all around the news channels forcing people who normally wouldn't take notice to sit up and ask "is my 401k / pension safe?" This could be priming for the inevitable crash that is coming any day now. Misdirection if you will.

Yes... but why? These global controllers are playing a chess game... herding sheople. Why are they doing this and what is the next step? The 60 minutes program was a release on the commie controlled news network for nitwits. Think about their motives.


Fear. Instill fear to scare the animals of the herd to move a direction. Fear of what? Stock losses = retirement fund losses. The government is used to steal from us. They will use this to get people buying govt bonds.... and putting everything in Obamafunds. It will be social security on steroids. They will guarantee your retirement just like they are guaranteeing your healthcare. Give up your freedom for security.

EE_
31st March 2014, 08:53 PM
You could say this is the free market working. Wall Street is free to cheat, steal and lie...and if you don't like it, you are free to show up with torches, rope and pitchforks.

Glass
1st April 2014, 01:30 AM
Flash boys is actually a good read

Some of it anyway
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-31/read-michael-lewis-flash-boys-wall-street-revolt-adapatation

singular_me
1st April 2014, 02:39 AM
there is a induction in hypnosis that uses confusion to plunge the client into trance, they are doing the same, the more culprits when everything crashes, the better, so people will be so disoriented that they will accept NWO "solutions".





If they are going mainstream they are trying to distract us. Watch carefully now.

Glass
1st April 2014, 03:17 AM
On reflection the story seems to be portrayed in a way that minimizes what these people did. Making out some unknown entity was doing this and the JPM did want to do any of this.. or whoever it was who wrote the OP Ed. And then there is the Gordon Gecko character they roll out. So no focus on how much people lost out to this. Not only being cheated of honest deals but being skimmed to boot. It's like the banking software fraud where the every transaction is skimmed some fractions of a cent.

All the lost opportunities with money that went to the wrong hands. The banks thought up the idea of posting fake offers. Basically it's a kind of baiting.

The best seller list is rigged too, isn't it?

Spectrism
1st April 2014, 04:27 AM
On reflection the story seems to be portrayed in a way that minimizes what these people did. Making out some unknown entity was doing this and the JPM did want to do any of this.. or whoever it was who wrote the OP Ed. And then there is the Gordon Gecko character they roll out. So no focus on how much people lost out to this. Not only being cheated of honest deals but being skimmed to boot. It's like the banking software fraud where the every transaction is skimmed some fractions of a cent.

All the lost opportunities with money that went to the wrong hands. The banks thought up the idea of posting fake offers. Basically it's a kind of baiting.

The best seller list is rigged too, isn't it?


Yes. It is a way of managing perceptions. Exactly right! The truth is already out there. Now you have a guy come out and say it was NOT illegal. Hell it wasn't/ isn't!!! They are still ripping people off. And it is with the cooperation of the SEC.



there is a induction in hypnosis that uses confusion to plunge the client into trance, they are doing the same, the more culprits when everything crashes, the better, so people will be so disoriented that they will accept NWO "solutions".

Correct. I was a student of hypnosis and saw the use of conflicting instructions to befuddle the conscious mind while penetrating and directing the subconscious. Very good point. An example is to count backward the even numbers from 20 to zero while counting forward the odd numbers from 0 to20 and stop when they meet. The destination does not exist but there are clear boundaries. We are fed conflicting and confusing bits of manufactured "information" to confuse the thinking mind while they slip the snares into place.



You could say this is the free market working. Wall Street is free to cheat, steal and lie...and if you don't like it, you are free to show up with torches, rope and pitchforks.

A free market can only exist under just laws. Consider your local farmers' market. It works because people pay for what they want. Introduce thieves and robbers and you no longer have a free market where agreed values are exchanged by consenting participants. What we are seeing today is not a free market but the rule of the jungle.

Ropes and torches are not part of the free market. They are the consequences of lawlessness and violating others' rights.

EE_
1st April 2014, 05:13 AM
A free market can only exist under just laws. Consider your local farmers' market. It works because people pay for what they want. Introduce thieves and robbers and you no longer have a free market where agreed values are exchanged by consenting participants. What we are seeing today is not a free market but the rule of the jungle.

Ropes and torches are not part of the free market. They are the consequences of lawlessness and violating others' rights.

I don't know if ever in history there was a time of no thieves and robbers, lawlessness and violating others' rights.
I'm saying these things have always been a part of any market.

What I discribed are the checks and balance of a free market and are a part of a market.

In the business world, also a free market, the perfect deal between two parties is when both parties walk away with what they want and feeling they screwed over the other party.

What are 'Just laws'? Laws made by men who's interest is to gain, or stay in power.
When and how much throughout history has there been 'Just laws'?

Spectrism
1st April 2014, 07:09 AM
I don't know if ever in history there was a time of no thieves and robbers, lawlessness and violating others' rights.
I'm saying these things have always been a part of any market.

What I discribed are the checks and balance of a free market and are a part of a market.

In the business world, also a free market, the perfect deal between two parties is when both parties walk away with what they want and feeling they screwed over the other party.

What are 'Just laws'? Laws made by men who's interest is to gain, or stay in power.
When and how much throughout history has there been 'Just laws'?

"Just laws" are human laws that comply with the laws of God.

There have been MANY times in history in many places where there is free and open exchange in a marketplace. When you go to a store, you have that today. In some places, corruption has overspread the transactions and tainted the goods or process.

A perfect deal is where all parties are happy with their trade and DON'T think they screwed anyone. If you are quite happy selling me a sterling silver spoon for $1, I will be perfectly happy to buy it. Do I think I screwed you? No.... my expensive education taught me the value of certain things and it is not my job to educate you that I would pay more for the spoon. In fact, I have found when I educate people in the marketplace, they often bite me.

EE_
1st April 2014, 09:32 AM
"Just laws" are human laws that comply with the laws of God.

There have been MANY times in history in many places where there is free and open exchange in a marketplace. When you go to a store, you have that today. In some places, corruption has overspread the transactions and tainted the goods or process.

A perfect deal is where all parties are happy with their trade and DON'T think they screwed anyone. If you are quite happy selling me a sterling silver spoon for $1, I will be perfectly happy to buy it. Do I think I screwed you? No.... my expensive education taught me the value of certain things and it is not my job to educate you that I would pay more for the spoon. In fact, I have found when I educate people in the marketplace, they often bite me.

Sometimes it's hard not to look at all the ugly in the world. Yes there are segments of society where there is fair trade and free markets working, but there also a lot of greedy people that are looking to screw you....they have always been there. Big business is all about the screw.
Like you said, you have found when you educate people in the marketplace, they often bite you.

singular_me
1st April 2014, 03:13 PM
A Violent End for the Global Financial System
Monday, March 31, 2014

Here’s a World War D scenario for you, dear reader…

As a retaliation for US sanctions on Russia in the wake of the invasion of Ukraine, Russia responds like this: Hackers attack the New York Stock Exchange and force it to close indefinitely; the Russian government dumps its billions of US Treasuries in the open market, causing interest rates to rise and crashing the US real estate market. The banks go into turmoil as people panic and withdraw their money. It would be a Russian strike on the US, without firing a shot.

That’s just one scenario hedge fund manager, economist and author Jim Rickards painted on the new era of financial warfare in his speech this morning at World War D.
http://dailyreckoning.com/a-violent-end-for-the-global-financial-system/

Glass
1st April 2014, 10:11 PM
the throw down on CNBC

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-01/bats-ceo-shame-you-letting-everyone-it

Worth watching

Serpo
2nd April 2014, 12:44 PM
Jon Stewart On HFT: "It's Not American; It's Not Even Capitalism. It's Cheating"

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)
Submitted by Tyler Durden (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden) on 04/02/2014 11:43 -0400



Jon Stewart is stunned by the world of HFT (where "stock exchanges sell the right to advance information to high frequency traders ") and the mainstream media's immediate jump to defend it "as good for us", but as Michael Lewis explains "anyone whose livelihood is dependent on Wall Street [from CNBC, FOX and even the SEC] is invested in this... it sounds like a conspiracy."
In this excellent interview, The Daily Show doubter asks "we have set a standard for share buying (you can't but 1/100th of a share) so why not set a standard for frequency of trading?" Lewis stoic response sums up our world perfectly, "in a sane world, we would... but the money is too big," and adds that indeed that is what IEX is doing. The HFTs "function on volume and volatility" alone and "they know the prices before you do... which is illegal if it's a person, but as a computer, meh?"
[B]Michael Lewis and Jon Stewart Part 1: What is HFT? "HFT is a middle-man in a transaction they have no business being in.. it is totally unnecessary Wall Street intermediation" How does it work? "The stock exchanges in this country sell the right to advance information to high frequency traders " [B]What is front-running? "front-running as a person is illegal, but as a computer, meh"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-02/jon-stewart-hft-its-not-american-its-not-even-capitalism-its-cheating

Serpo
2nd April 2014, 12:53 PM
the throw down on CNBC

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-01/bats-ceo-shame-you-letting-everyone-it

Worth watching

Yes very amusing scrambling by the cutouts.

Glass
2nd April 2014, 08:23 PM
here's another round of interviews that are also worth watching if you have the time.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-02/lewis-explains-casino-why-are-you-even-arguing-not-rigged

Glass
3rd April 2014, 07:23 PM
So after the interviews I posted last time, there have been some hurried corrections issued abut statements made by the BATS CEO. Turns out he fibbed. Claims are that in the heat of the moment he flustered and incorrectly responded to a question on the way his exchange prices trades.


“What do you use to price trades in your matching engine on Direct Edge?” Mr. Katsuyama asked Mr. O’Brien.

“We use the direct feeds,” Mr. O’Brien said.

Mr. Katsuyama, whose IEX dark pool markets itself as a haven for investors against high-speed traders, later brought up the issue again. “You use the SIP to price trades on Direct Edge,” he said.

“That is not true,” Mr. O’Brien said.




BATS Global Markets Inc., under pressure from the New York Attorney General’s office, corrected statements made by a senior executive during a televised interview this week about how its exchanges work.
BATS President William O’Brien, during a CNBC interview Tuesday, said BATS’s Direct Edge exchanges use high-speed data feeds to price stock trades. Thursday, the exchange operator said two of its exchanges, EDGA and EGX, use a slower feed, known as the Securities Information Processor, to price trades.

The distinction matters because high-speed traders can use powerful computers and superfast links between markets to outpace traders and trading venues that rely on slower market data, such as the SIP.



Clarification Regarding Market Data Usage

April 03, 2014

BATS Global Markets wishes to clarify the market data usage of its exchanges. With respect to routing, EDGA & EDGX use direct depth-of-book data feeds for all major exchanges, and data from the relevant securities information processor (SIP) for certain smaller exchanges. With respect to the matching engine, EDGA & EDGX currently use the SIP, but will be transitioning to direct feeds from all major exchanges in January 2015. BATS BZX and BYX exchanges currently use direct feeds for both routing and its matching engine from all major exchanges, and SIP data from certain smaller exchanges.




More here, including FACTS. (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-03/bats-admits-ceo-lied-about-hft-cnbc)

ZH concludes:


1) The CEO of BATS has no idea what his firm actually does and is merely happy to earn an impressive amount of money skimming off the rest of the population of market traders no questions asked, or

2) The CEO of BATS is a liar and is merely happy to earn an impressive amount of money skimming off the rest of the population of market traders no questions asked.