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Serpo
1st April 2014, 01:01 PM
Parents told to vaccinate newborn or have him seized by the state

Threats of state violence were enough to blackmail two brand new parents.

Posted on April 1, 2014 by PSUSA (http://www.policestateusa.com/author/psusa/) in News (http://www.policestateusa.com/category/news/)
http://www.policestateusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Aliea-and-Ben.jpg (http://www.policestateusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Aliea-and-Ben.jpg) Aliea and Ben. (Source: The INQUISITR (http://www.inquisitr.com/1191522/parents-blackmailed-by-doctor-consent-to-vaccine-or-we-take-your-newborn/#AZ2dE4zoh2mM9wkM.99))

BIRMINGHAM, AL — Parents of a healthy newborn infant were told to consent to injecting him with drugs or lose him to the state. This successful blackmail scheme was made possible by the state’s horrifying ability to seize children without due process.
Aliea Bidwell and Ben Gray became new parents on March 14th, 2014. Their experience turned from joy to dismay when their parenthood was already being threatened on their son’s first day outside of the womb. Ben and Aliea gave a detailed account of their experience to The INQUISITR (http://www.inquisitr.com/1191522/parents-blackmailed-by-doctor-consent-to-vaccine-or-we-take-your-newborn/#AZ2dE4zoh2mM9wkM.99).
When the parents expressed their desire to forgo vaccines for their hours-old baby, they drew the ire of a particularly nasty staff member at St. Vincent’s Hospital. A pediatrician named Dr. Terry M. Bierd allegedly told the parents that they would either submit their son, Aaron, to a Hepatitis B vaccine or else she would call Alabama’s Child Protective Services (http://www.dhr.alabama.gov/services/Child_Protective_Services/Child_Protective_Services.aspx) (CPS) to report them as negligent parents. The threat was very real, in a system which allows families to be split apart without a trial, without evidence, without a defense, without a jury — without a law even being broken.
As the parents balked, the threat was repeated throughout the day and made in front of a dozen family members, The INQUISITR reports. A time was set for the ultimatum to expire.
Dr. Bierd allegedly said that once Aaron was in the hands of social workers, he would be injected immediately and it would be difficult for them to get him back.
It should be noted that there is absolutely no law requiring vaccines of any kind for any newborn. Declining vaccines at birth is common and completely within the rights of the parents. Even when children become of age for public school, there are exemptions to the vaccine suggestions in all 50 states (http://www.vaclib.org/exemption.htm).
The absence of any legal footing has not stopped the social workers from seizing children over medical disagreements before. Pennsylvania parents Scott and Jodi Ferris (http://www.hslda.org/hs/state/pa/201203270.asp) found themselves in a nearly identical situation recently. When they refused an injection for their baby girl, Mr. and Mrs. Ferris were thrown out of the hospital and the girl was taken into state custody — based only on the whims of a social worker.
In light of the intimidating circumstances, Ben and Aliea complied with the doctor’s demands, doing so under duress.
Although the Gray family didn’t have to deal directly with the state, Dr. Bierd’s threats coupled with the existence of the unaccountable child-snatching agency was enough to coerce their parental decision making. Its not even clear if Dr. Bierd will face any consequences. Parents need to beware of the profound implications that exist for their families when they come into disagreements with professional control-freaks.


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St. Vincent’s Hospital (Birmingham, Alabama)
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http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/vaccine-blackmail/

Serpo
1st April 2014, 01:06 PM
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Shami-Amourae
1st April 2014, 01:12 PM
This just makes me feel justified in never wanting to have children.
:(

Serpo
1st April 2014, 01:22 PM
This just makes me feel justified in never wanting to have children.
:(


I had children and its the greatest thing, never had them vac , I dont live in America though

Ares
1st April 2014, 02:05 PM
This would raise an interesting Palini scenario.

Say yeah, ok, I'll vaccine said child as soon as you sign this form (http://preventdisease.com/pdf/Warranty-of-Vaccine-Safety-English.pdf).

If they don't sign it, and proceed to call CPS. You can say I am willing to comply when some conditions are met by the doctor. But so far hasn't been willing to submit to any conditions. I'm learning that the biggest thing that gets you in trouble is refusing. So if you agree and counter offer, they have a mess on their hands.

Shami-Amourae
1st April 2014, 02:13 PM
This would raise an interesting Palini scenario.

Say yeah, ok, I'll vaccine said child as soon as you sign this form (http://preventdisease.com/pdf/Warranty-of-Vaccine-Safety-English.pdf).

If they don't sign it, and proceed to call CPS. You can say I am willing to comply when some conditions are met by the doctor. But so far hasn't been willing to submit to any conditions. I'm learning that the biggest thing that gets you in trouble is refusing. So if you agree and counter offer, they have a mess on their hands.

That form could be considered terrorist contraband and be an excuse alone to steal your kid.

Serpo
1st April 2014, 02:13 PM
good one ares, people need to be more informed about this ,and it would of been good to see this ""doctors"" face when presented with this

Ares
1st April 2014, 02:21 PM
That form could be considered terrorist contraband and be an excuse alone to steal your kid.

It's a contract, just like the ones the parents signed under duress I might add, to absolve the hospital of any damages. Well that form would hold her PERSONALLY accountable as well as financially if something were to go wrong. Besides that she has a problem on her hands, as you are agreeing, not disagreeing with her. So her story to the CPS can't be child negligence. Besides I probably would of filed paperwork that night with a local court for blackmail and serve her via process server to see how uppity she would be, being put on notice of blackmail in a public forum like a court room.

I would advice anyone to open a MISC. case file at your local U.S. District court for cases where you need an evidence repository for shit like this. That has saved my ass more times than I can count and have only had it for a little over a year.

People change their demeanor in an INSTANT when having court papers served to them. I would of charged her ass with blackmail and intent to kidnap. Let it go on record and have her dumb ass hire an attorney to try and correct it.

7th trump
1st April 2014, 02:54 PM
Do as I did and threaten back with a personal law suit against the person wanting you to give consent to vaccination.
There is no law on any books anywhere that says you must vaccinate a newborn or get a ssn for the newborn...therefore the person threatening such action is outside the scope of the law and the hospital is not liable for such persons actions....that person is liable on a personal basis. The moron said to get the newborn vaccinated...that a consenting action required by the parents...it cannot be forced...and if forced or threatened.....apply 42usc 1983


Every person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such officer’s judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia.

I walked right out of the hospital with my newborn child without any ssn paperwork signed nor any vaccinations.
And I made it perfectly clear to the nurse saying that I need to sign the ssn that she was outside the law and the hospital wasn't going to stop me from prosecuting her personally. The hospital cant impose a law that isn't in existence and therefore the nurse was acting outside the law and the hospital wont come to her aid because if they did they are setting themselves up for a multimillions dollar law suit.....she was on her own and acting on her own.
She then realized the hospital would throw her under the bus.
She came back saying we were cleared to leave the hospital.

Any paperwork that requires your signature...is voluntary and consenting in nature.

Serpo
1st April 2014, 03:04 PM
but but are they not a law unto themselves......................................

Cebu_4_2
1st April 2014, 04:32 PM
We will be facing this subject very soon. I am not well versed or have any idea how the Doctor feels about forcing them on us but she does mention the V word quite often.

optionT
1st April 2014, 06:44 PM
At the hospital, we just said that we were going to vaccinate at the pediatricians office for the 1 week visit.
Did that for the 3 of them and never had any problems. All 3 are not vaccinated.

7th trump
1st April 2014, 06:55 PM
At the hospital, we just said that we were going to vaccinate at the pediatricians office for the 1 week visit.
Did that for the 3 of them and never had any problems. All 3 are not vaccinated.

Many ways to skin that cat.....good job!

vacuum
1st April 2014, 06:58 PM
At the hospital, we just said that we were going to vaccinate at the pediatricians office for the 1 week visit.
Did that for the 3 of them and never had any problems. All 3 are not vaccinated.

This is the best thing to do, and if that doesn't work, pull out the form. Maybe even tell them the pediatrician already signed a similar form and hence you will only allow the pediatrician to give the vaccine.

optionT
1st April 2014, 07:22 PM
These medical professionals are becoming militant with the no vaccine people. The pro vaccine camp feels similar to the queers who hurl feces at the families that don't want the homo agenda rammed down their throat. They get in your face and will steal your children.

Tread lightly in their presence, for your families sake.

Serpo
1st April 2014, 07:35 PM
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mick silver
2nd April 2014, 07:32 AM
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Twisted Titan
2nd April 2014, 07:43 AM
I would advice anyone to open a MISC. case file at your local U.S. District court for cases where you need an evidence repository for shit like this. That has saved my ass more times than I can count and have only had it for a little over a year.





Could you expand on this?

Maybe even start a thread.

Ares
2nd April 2014, 09:30 AM
I would advice anyone to open a MISC. case file at your local U.S. District court for cases where you need an evidence repository for shit like this. That has saved my ass more times than I can count and have only had it for a little over a year.





Could you expand on this?

Maybe even start a thread.

It's actually pretty simple. It cost about 40 bucks at your local U.S. District court. But you already have to have something you want to be in the case file. For me it was when I started redeeming lawful money. I sent a Notice and Demand to my financial institution and gave them 21 business days to contest my Notice and Demand. They didn't. I sent the financial institution a certified copy, and the court made a copy of the original and placed it in the file I opened.

It goes like this
walk into your local U.S. District Court
Go to the Clerk Of The Court
Ask to open a MISC case file
give them the documentation you want put into the case file.
Pay the 40 FRN's. (might be more now I'm not sure)
leave with a receipt and the file number and that's it.

Whenever you do correspondence through the mail, you'll always send a copy of everything to everyone including the clerk instructions to notify the recipient that it is going into a previously opened case file at such and such court.

I've done it a couple times with a seat belt violation and a parking ticket. Refused for cause, sent copy to court, and the original back to the county that issued the citation and I don't hear anything again. But have to do that within 72 hours, silence is acceptance.

Buddha
2nd April 2014, 02:14 PM
Gonna have to take him/her out of my cold dead bloody hands, and that's it. No other human being can make me do any thing that I don't want to do.

And to 7th Trump, I was in the ICU 2 days a few months ago, soon as I felt better, I asked when I was going to be released. They told me I had a couple more days... I pulled my IVs out and walked out, never signed anything, insurance still payed what they were supposed to.

7th trump
2nd April 2014, 02:36 PM
Gonna have to take him/her out of my cold dead bloody hands, and that's it. No other human being can make me do any thing that I don't want to do.

And to 7th Trump, I was in the ICU 2 days a few months ago, soon as I felt better, I asked when I was going to be released. They told me I had a couple more days... I pulled my IVs out and walked out, never signed anything, insurance still payed what they were supposed to.

Nope...they cant make you stay...and they sure as hell cant make you sign anything thats consenting in nature...aka....a signature!
A lot of people just roll over and take it in the behind not realizing the purpose of them asking for your signature...which is permission!
They cant threaten you they will do something and turn around and ask for your signature for them to do it.
Lawsuit written all over that!

That nurse or who it was saying they will call to get the baby taken away would be in big time trouble if they said that to me.
First thing I'd do is call management explaining to them they just got themselves a multi-million dollar law suit on their hands and the next call would be to the idiot stating he also has a multi-million dollar law suit on its hands. The third next call is to a good greedy lawyer who's willing to go after this for half.