Study: Vegetarians Less Healthy, Lower Quality Of Life Than Meat-Eaters

[Ares]

ATLANTA (CBS ATLANTA) – Vegetarians may have a lower BMI and drink alcohol sparingly, but vegetarian diets are tied to generally poorer health, poorer quality of life and a higher need for health care than their meat-eating counterparts.

A new study from the Medical University of Graz in Austria finds that vegetarians are more physically active, drink less alcohol and smoke less tobacco than those who consume meat in their diets. Vegetarians also have a higher socioeconomic status and a lower body mass index. But the vegetarian diet — characterized by a low consumption of saturated fats and cholesterol that includes increased intake of fruits, vegetables and whole-grain products — carries elevated risks of cancer, allergies and mental health disorders.

Vegetarians were twice as likely to have allergies, a 50 percent increase in heart attacks and a 50 percent increase in incidences of cancer.

The cross-sectional study from Austrian Health Interview Survey data and published in PLos One examined participants dietary habits, demographic characteristics and general lifestyle differences.

The most significant dietary habit difference between meat-eaters and vegetarians concerned their BMI and alcohol consumption – with both being higher for those who consume meat.

Many past studies have instead put an emphasis on the health risks associated with red meat and carnivorous diets, but this study points the other dietary direction. However, the researchers do caution that continuing studies will be needed to substantiate some of the rather broad dietary distinctions, associations presented in this current research.

Overall, vegetarians were found to be in a poorer state of health compared to other dietary groups. Vegetarians reported higher levels of impairment from disorders, chronic diseases, and “suffer significantly more often from anxiety/depression.”

Subjects who consumed lower amounts of animal fat were also linked to poor health care practices, such as avoidance of vaccinations and a lack of preventive care.

Chronic problems associated with vegetarians and people eating carnivorous diets rich in fruits and vegetables were linked to more frequent visits to doctors, which the study authors suggest requires public health programs to reduce the health risk due to their nutritional factors.

The researchers conclude: “Our study has shown that Austrian adults who consume a vegetarian diet are less healthy (in terms of cancer, allergies, and mental health disorders), have a lower quality of life, and also require more medical treatment.”

“Therefore, a continued strong public health program for Austria is required in order to reduce the health risk due to nutritional factors.”

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention notes that healthy diets rich in fruits and vegetables may reduce the risk of cancer and other chronic diseases for all dietary groups. A 2009 study from the CDC found that about 1 in 200 young Americans, or 367,000 US children, are vegetarians.

http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/04/01/study-vegetarians-less-healthy-lower-quality-of-life-than-meat-eaters/

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[madfranks]

A couple years back I read The Primal Blueprint and changed my diet to be fat based, instead of carb based. The -eureka!- moment for me was when I made the connection that since the human body stores fat as fuel (it can not store carbohydrates or sugars), that fat was the intended fuel source for humans. I lowered my carb intake, experienced the "low carb flu", trained my body to become fat-adapted and I lost over 40 pounds just burning stored body fat. Conclusion: vegetarianism is not the diet the human body was designed for.

[Shami-Amourae]

If you understand anything about biology you can figure out what someone's diet should be based on their teeth's structure. Humans have omnivore teeth. We are omnivores. We have canine teeth for ripping flesh, and we have our molar teeth for grinding/chewing vegetation. The fact people think otherwise shows how lacking in common sense they are.

[Serpo]

Here another story from these idiots..........


Study: Organic Diet Does Not Reduce Cancer Riskmeaning pesticides are good for you

http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/03/30/study-organic-diet-does-not-reduce-cancer-risk/

[Ares]

A couple years back I read The Primal Blueprint and changed my diet to be fat based, instead of carb based. The -eureka!- moment for me was when I made the connection that since the human body stores fat as fuel (it can not store carbohydrates or sugars), that fat was the intended fuel source for humans. I lowered my carb intake, experienced the "low carb flu", trained my body to become fat-adapted and I lost over 40 pounds just burning stored body fat. Conclusion: vegetarianism is not the diet the human body was designed for.

No definitely not. There is a video on Netflix or Amazon (can't remember which as I have both) called "The Perfect Human Diet". The host goes through evidence of DNA from prehistoric humans showing that their diets consisted of 90% protein (meat). So I've been working to change my diet, it's not easy in the least considering that the American diet and everything sold in stores is based on a carb heavy diet. The very fuel source our body was NOT DESIGNED to use.

I ate pure Paleo for 2 weeks, and could think more clearly and have more energy than I ever did eating a carb rich diet. It was night and day. I intend to go back to pure paleo as of now I'm eating approximately 60% Paleo.

[Shami-Amourae]

The supreme diet IMO is the Weston A. Price diet. The paleo diet is an offshoot of this diet. The Weston A. Price diet includes dairy (paleo says that its wrong.) Grains ARE permitted as long as they are first fermented and/or sprouted before hand to remove phytic acid and make them safe. Modern grains are unsafe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNP_QOWxoDk

[chad]

haven't eaten meat since 1990. guess i should get ready to die now.

[Serpo]

Havnt eaten meat since 1973 so I must be dead.

Do eat fish here and there but the fukushima thing is screwing with that

Never seen a doctor ,dont have allergies ,eat plenty of saturated fat..........

My reason for not eating meat isnt from some book or video its because when I was very young I had to feed a pig ,and this certain pig become my friend until it was sent off to the slaughter yards.

Stopped eating meat there and then as I asked my mother that night when looking at the piece of meat on my plate if this was the same as Brian(pigs name).

Obviously I didnt even know where meat came from at that age.

Pushed my plate away and never been interested since.

[Ares]

Havnt eaten meat since 1973 so I must be dead.

Do eat fish here and there but the fukushima thing is screwing with that

Never seen a doctor ,dont have allergies ,eat plenty of saturated fat..........

My reason for not eating meat isnt from some book or video its because when I was very young I had to feed a pig ,and this certain pig become my friend until it was sent off to the slaughter yards.

Stopped eating meat there and then as I asked my mother that night when looking at the piece of meat on my plate if this was the same as Brian(pigs name).

Obviously I didnt even know where meat came from at that age.

Pushed my plate away and never been interested since.

As long as you're getting your proteins and saturated fats from somewhere, I don't think it will matter much. What it boils down too is that meats were a big part of the human diet until the advent of agriculture. The body can literally go decades missing vital nutrients and minerals. I learned that while studying teeth remineralization. It doesn't happen unless you're getting the proper fats, vitamins and minerals.

[willie pete]

make mine a Medium-Rare Porterhouse or Ribeye with a baked potato and Butter, throw some asparagus on the plate too :D


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[Buddha]

ive worked in the food industry my whole life, used to be not many vegitarians. I got a job as a manager next to the community college, and over half the young women were vegitarian, I always looked at them like 4 year old girls, "are you sure?" being vegitarian to me is like one only eating meat.

And hell yeah white phosphorous, Medium-rare New York strip, with a baked potato, butter, sour cream, and some asparagus or broccoli (maybe both) wow im hungary..................

[FreeEnergy]

The host goes through evidence of DNA from prehistoric humans showing that their diets consisted of 90% protein (meat).

Impossible, and thus BS. Unless you are related to blue blooded, who require meat or blood to get iron and oxygen. The rest of us red bloods don't , and are perfectly fine on fruits and vegetables. Our bodies convert everything to blood sugar, glucose, which is body's main source of food. You get easy glucose form carbs and from meats, but cleanest way to get them is through fruits, and some vegetables and nuts.



So I've been working to change my diet, it's not easy in the least considering that the American diet and everything sold in stores is based on a carb heavy diet. The very fuel source our body was NOT DESIGNED to use.

I ate pure Paleo for 2 weeks, and could think more clearly and have more energy than I ever did eating a carb rich diet. It was night and day. I intend to go back to pure paleo as of now I'm eating approximately 60% Paleo.

Carb heavy is a problem because of white flour, which are 1) high on sugar and will make you fat and addicted to them, 2) low on nutrition, and 3) commonly in US are GMO.

Potatoes, especially how they are eaten now ... skins are really where the nutrition is. Insides that some of us commonly consume is identical in structure to a very strong glue and will clog arteries and intestines.

I just looked at Paleo and it sounds good. I'd say quality of produce makes a huge difference too. I am eating lots of organics. I am not eating pork as I couldn't find edible US-made pork, it is generally a disaster when you buy it in stores. I eat chicken and turkey , as far as meats, and go easy on beef and only eat it when I know it is quality. And I avoid anything white bread or white flour whenever I can.

[singular_me]

it is wrong to push down the throat whatever diet... it is all by the case, some people will do extremely well being vegetarian/vegan, other not... choose your diet not because it is trendy but which feels right for you.

as a rawfoodist, I do not need more than 1lb animal proteins or 6 eggs weekly and thats enough for me. But I eat nuts/advocados/olives every day. No dairies and processed foods. No evil carbs but dry fruits, especially medjol dates, not to mention at least 1 big veggie smoothie and a salad daily

I wouldnt trust anything coming from any of the mainstream channels

edit:
I find websites like mercola.com, natural news extremely valuable
I always prefer eggs over meat, I have no problem to eat (organic) meat once every 6 weeks or so , Sea fish is no longer an option since fukushima especially.



Here another story from these idiots..........


Study: Organic Diet Does Not Reduce Cancer Riskmeaning pesticides are good for you

http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2014/03/30/study-organic-diet-does-not-reduce-cancer-risk/

[Santa]

"You are what you eat."

[willie pete]

moderation is the key, although eating the super-food broccoli everyday is a very big plus, loaded with vitamins (>vitamin C than oranges per serving; > in folate too) and fiber to help scrub out your colon :D

[singular_me]

yes, Nature made man an omnivore to be able to survive winters when there is nothing else to eat but meat... but in the good season, I am almost sure that cavemen were vegetarians. It all changed when salt to preserve meat was discovered.



If you understand anything about biology you can figure out what someone's diet should be based on their teeth's structure. Humans have omnivore teeth. We are omnivores. We have canine teeth for ripping flesh, and we have our molar teeth for grinding/chewing vegetation. The fact people think otherwise shows how lacking in common sense they are.

[Neuro]

I think there is genetical differences too as to what diet we thrive on and are genetically adapted to eat. In tropical climates you have a year round easy access to fruits, nuts and vegetables, while meat spoils quickly, and people would be better adapted to eat a vegetarian diet. While someone genetically from a temperate or subarctic area like Austria, would need to be adapted to eat a lot of meat over an extended period of the year, otherwise his ancestors would have starved to death. The results of the study would have been different if it had been done in South India or equatorial Africa...

I think people would probably do best if among natural un-processed foods they pick what they like to eat, without having their morals twisted and distorted of outside ideologies (like meat is murder)...

[Ares]

Impossible, and thus BS. Unless you are related to blue blooded, who require meat or blood to get iron and oxygen. The rest of us red bloods don't , and are perfectly fine on fruits and vegetables. Our bodies convert everything to blood sugar, glucose, which is body's main source of food. You get easy glucose form carbs and from meats, but cleanest way to get them is through fruits, and some vegetables and nuts.

Fruits and Vegetables don't have amino acids, omega's 3, 6, or 9, and with vegetables you have to be careful because of phytic acid which inhibits the body from absorbing Iron, Zinc, Calcium and Magnesium. L-Lysine (used in rebuilding tissue particularly arteries) is another important nutrient not found in fruits or vegetables, it's found in meat. Most of the documentaries I've watched and materials I've studied point to the same conclusion, our diets are rich in calories but devoid of nutrition. So we have to spend more to eat organic, and consume food that is nutritional for you.




Carb heavy is a problem because of white flour, which are 1) high on sugar and will make you fat and addicted to them, 2) low on nutrition, and 3) commonly in US are GMO.

Potatoes, especially how they are eaten now ... skins are really where the nutrition is. Insides that some of us commonly consume is identical in structure to a very strong glue and will clog arteries and intestines.

I just looked at Paleo and it sounds good. I'd say quality of produce makes a huge difference too. I am eating lots of organics. I am not eating pork as I couldn't find edible US-made pork, it is generally a disaster when you buy it in stores. I eat chicken and turkey , as far as meats, and go easy on beef and only eat it when I know it is quality. And I avoid anything white bread or white flour whenever I can.

Modern wheat is a Frankenstein compared to it's ancestral beginnings. Even the way we bake bread now, using bromide instead of iodine because it's "cheaper". I eat beef, only because my uncle raises cattle and I have nearly half a cow left in my deep freezer. I know how it was raised, and was basically free range on 200 acres of land. He didn't feed them grain, fed them hay in the winter and in the spring and summer months fed on the grass that grew on those 200 acres of land. So it's a high quality form of beef. Not the commercial processed crap they call beef in super markets. I also eat chicken, turkey, fish, deer and pork. My parents raise a pig every year, I help pay for feed and the cost to butcher and get half in the fall. They've also read up on how to raise healthy pigs. Granted they aren't as fat as some of the commercial guys, but I'll take quality over quantity any day.

[Heimdhal]

The Weston Price diet was by far the most well rounded and long term researched I've seen. Its not a new fad one, in fact its been around for arguably thousands of years.

It defiintley lowers grain based carbs and increases animal based fat consumption (nothing major though). Carbs from fruits and veggies are ok. Theres a big emphasis on lowering phytic acid intake, of which a lot of lacto-fermented methods were used to help break down phytic acids before consumption.

I lost over 20 pounds on it in the first 30 days. I plateaued at around 47 total pounds lost within 2-3 months and felt amazing. Unfortunatley I had some more deblitating medical issues and had some pretty serious damage done to my digestive system during a surgery. I've gained about 25-30 of those pounds back.

I cut out all grain carbs (and most fruit carbs as well), most sugar, etc cold turkey. Just flat stopped. It was hell. Getting over the withdrawl is like a drug addiction. I was a baker for many years, so bread is a part of life for me. That was the hardest getting over. Once I got over it though, after about 20-30 days I had very little desire. I kept at it for a good 7 months or so before my surgery messed me all up and I've had problems ever since.

Trying to get back on it now. Its not easy on a low income, most of the food is geared towards fresh, farm-to-consumer principles and that means $$$. Total worth it though.

[milehi]

For several years now, I've been eating for my blood type which is O-, and mirrors the paleo diet. I miss good breads and cheese but feel great and never get sick. Before, I thought I was eating healthy and would carb load before a mountain bike race only to find myself feeling sluggish.

[mick silver]

i like my beef still kicking ............ put it on the grill then turn it before it hits the grill then eat it

[FreeEnergy]

Fruits and Vegetables don't have amino acids, omega's 3, 6, or 9, and with vegetables you have to be careful because of phytic acid which inhibits the body from absorbing Iron, Zinc, Calcium and Magnesium. L-Lysine (used in rebuilding tissue particularly arteries) is another important nutrient not found in fruits or vegetables, it's found in meat. Most of the documentaries I've watched and materials I've studied point to the same conclusion, our diets are rich in calories but devoid of nutrition. So we have to spend more to eat organic, and consume food that is nutritional for you.


Ah...Modern western medical science. And hence here lies a problem. They came up with a few vitamins (13 ?) and claim that that's all there is to it.
They also falsely claim that 1) your body has to have them and can't make them itself, and 2) that apparently you can replace natural vitamin with a chemically made up ones (or even worse, patented chemical crap).

Some very serous non-western doctors say there are hunders (if not a thousand) of vitamins. Western science has a way to go.

I study my 3 year old and my cat for how and what they eat.

Cat, apparently a carnivore, goes to find grass every time he has a health problem (even caused by junk cat food that apparently "has all vitamins and nutrients"), and after long times being indoors and such. He eats GRASS TO HEAL, not meat.

My 3 year old is very precise at what she eats, her body still being not clogged up by modern foods. I feed her organics and what little berries I grow in the back yard. She'll eat soft boiled eggs ,(never hard boiled) from inside out, for instance, which lead me to learn the difference between egg yolk (where all nutrition and vitamins are) and whites. She'll eat cucumbers, which is one of the most alkaline foods (modern processed foods are extremely acidic and body needs a balance). She has this in her.



Modern wheat is a Frankenstein compared to it's ancestral beginnings. Even the way we bake bread now, using bromide instead of iodine because it's "cheaper". I eat beef, only because my uncle raises cattle and I have nearly half a cow left in my deep freezer. I know how it was raised, and was basically free range on 200 acres of land. He didn't feed them grain, fed them hay in the winter and in the spring and summer months fed on the grass that grew on those 200 acres of land. So it's a high quality form of beef. Not the commercial processed crap they call beef in super markets. I also eat chicken, turkey, fish, deer and pork. My parents raise a pig every year, I help pay for feed and the cost to butcher and get half in the fall. They've also read up on how to raise healthy pigs. Granted they aren't as fat as some of the commercial guys, but I'll take quality over quantity any day.

Nice! (where's a thumbs up icon?)

[singular_me]

I was looking in my subscribed threads where to post this... what those sponsoring the study in the OP, will never mention.
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There is a big secret out there in the grocery store aisles that no one wants you to know. There is a hoax of monumental proportions that is being perpetrated on the American public.

Before I tell you what it is, let me remind you of some things that you already know.

It’s no secret at all that the American economy is in dire straits. Unemployment has skyrocketed and today’s dollars buy a lot less than the dollars of just a few years ago. Even the most thrifty shopper will pay substantially more for a cart full of groceries. To make matters worse, our country’s main food-producing areas have been devastated by droughts, and you can expect that prices will only go up from here.

So people work for slave wages, if they can find work at all, then go to the grocery store and buy what they can afford. And that is where the secret comes in.

The secret is:The stuff sold there is not actually food.

Most of what is being sold in the grocery store is NOT ACTUALLY FOOD. It is food-like substances. It is a pile of chemicals masquerading as food to satiate hunger and deceive those who consume it into believing that they are eating food and ingesting nutrients.

Did you ever see the movie Soylent Green? In the movie, the futuristic over-populated world no longer can provide food for the population. Instead processed food-like substances are rationed out to keep people alive. Initially, there was Soylent Yellow and Soylent Red, but then, a new product, Soylent Green, became available in limited quantities. The actual source of Soylent Green is a closely guarded secret: no one is allowed to know what is actually in it. Consumers are deceived with some scientific sounding descriptions until the awful truth comes out.

Does this sound familiar?

http://www.nutritionalanarchy.com/2014/04/09/great-american-grocery-hoax/
or
http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/the-great-american-grocery-hoax-04102014#sthash.HoZocCuf.dpuf

[Hitch]

For several years now, I've been eating for my blood type which is O-, and mirrors the paleo diet. I miss good breads and cheese but feel great and never get sick. Before, I thought I was eating healthy and would carb load before a mountain bike race only to find myself feeling sluggish.

I tried the paleo diet awhile back, but couldn't stick with it. For the past month or so I've been doing the primal diet, from madfranks recommendation. The only real difference is the dairy, I eat cheese, drink milk, etc. I've been having great results, not sure if I've lost much weight, but did have to cut another hole in my belt. The biggest difference is how I feel, more agile, my cardo health is better as well. Been going for runs on the beach.

One thing I definitely notice, is without the carbs and sugars, I do not get those hunger cravings like before. No stomach rumbling, have to eat now, type feeling. I think before my blood sugar levels must have been out of whack and this diet stabilized that. Like you, if I do eat a heavy carb meal I just end up feeling sluggish.

I highly recommend cutting out bread and sugars completely. It's tough in the beginning, but worth it.

[singular_me]

follow the money... massive meat production, killing is a ritual, is the consequence of a deception, so yes the OP (studies). Just like the for global warming, follow the money, there are many people paid to speak in favor or meat.

people with a kidney disease must cut down meat drastically? why? Or it is meat that causes the kidney disease? I have always contended that eating meat daily is unhealthy, at least not more than 1lb weekly.

The video is easy to follow. The body doesnt need proteins but essential amino acids. Not convinced, then watch this vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4-9bZrH5Bc

Published on May 3, 2017
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this is just the first of several lectures I will upload on this topic.

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[crimethink]

The body doesnt need proteins but essential amino acids.

LOL

"The body doesn't need water just dihydrogen monoxide."

[Horn]

haven't eaten meat since 1990. guess i should get ready to die now.

Whatever happened to chad?

[singular_me]

this video is not really against eating meat but too much or it and why are essential amino acids a lot more important than proteins. herbivors eat tons of them and that is why they develop muscles. Man is a omnivore but that doesnt mean that he is free to eat as much as he thinks he can.

however we have now reached such a paradox that we need so much pasture to raise cows that feedlots and factory farms have become the $olution to make profits, intense animal suffering is a consequence. Science resolves issues better than anything else. Where there is a concentration of wealth, there is a huge deception behind

I call this sacred science... when emotions and knowledge support one another. Any 'save the animals/humans/environment' platform not going along those lines will never achieve a thing and is therefore a scam, and ((they)) know it.

[chad]

Whatever happened to chad?

i died from being a vegetarian. :(

[madfranks]

i died from being a vegetarian. :(I spit my coffee I laughed so hard at that!!! :D

[Horn]

i died from being a vegetarian. :(

I thought so

[singular_me]

can anyone debunk the lecture instead of patting each others on the back because another scam is exposed ? or maybe just try to stick to 1lb of meat weekly for 3 months in a row then report to us/this thread

nope, the sky will never be the limit but inner balance in anything we do. Meat gluttony isnt wise. Most people I know eat 1-2lbs meat daily and often have a bleak skin after 45 years of age. I eat 8 to 10 raw yokes weekly when not eating meat.

as usual people do really care as long as only others get sick... or killed. Until they become the target.

FRIDAY, Feb. 13, 2015 (HealthDay News)
Patients struggling with chronic kidney disease who routinely consume meat-rich, highly acidic diets may boost their risk for kidney failure, a new study suggests.
Switching to regimen higher in fruits, veggies might help stave off organ failure, experts say

The researchers tracked each patient's intake of high-acid foods such as meat, as opposed to their intake of low-acid foods such as fruits and vegetables.

The result: those who consumed high-acid diets appeared to face triple the risk of kidney failure compared with those who consumed low-acid diets.
http://www.webmd.com/diabetes/news/20150213/meat-heavy-high-acid-diet-poses-risk-for-those-with-kidney-disease-study#1

also
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/311664.php



The kidney is the organ that is the most trafficked worldwide....