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Ares
3rd April 2014, 06:26 PM
https://hopegirl2012.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/qeg-core.jpg?w=249&h=332

Free energy has been released to the people. You can choose to be skeptical if you wish, but in time (perhaps just a few short months) the reality of what is happening will become more and more apparent.

Open sourcing the plans for the QEG was a turning point for all of us. Now that the cat’s out of the bag, we would like to take this opportunity to fully disclose to The People the full background story behind the last 6 months. We could not speak about much of this before we open sourced as we had to protect our family, our energy, and maintain the integrity of what we were trying to do.





The Results in the First Week:
In the first 24 hours 20,000 people downloaded the QEG plans. Since then it has gone so viral it is hard to get an accurate count. The manual has been posted on many blogs and is thoroughly spread through all forms of social media. So far the manual has been translated into German, Italian, Japanese, Swedish and soon Chinese and Spanish.

Websites are being created with forums to help spread and share information. Here is one of them, and so far there is a lot of up to the minute info being posted here: http://be-do.com/index.php/en/

We also have a skype chat room called QEGNetwork where many have gathered to post and share questions. Here is a link to this room, you need to have skype on your computer and you need to have your own skype account to sign in:

skype:?chat&blob=N-skpVBnysb-jjDWhpeDfZAunrEsqqdmcYmSdNEhCt79
T3gTuq3uGtGSvziq13ATcBEwhZ81SPwhbJ1sHsae1ku_ecFXHh PGqCp7wKV
Ky7j9Z6j_ffUf0SuAsUwgPKuWhjdznSvWEo1a5EffkCsHA948V zvwaCPbc6D
huuSELHMjHyJBTCnms6G62GV3raMa3etBfG70pIa_C3Ee9D-T89eFh8WRRyOnHZhe

We would ask for people with website skills to create networking websites so that CICU’s all over the world can connect and speak with each other. This is important to help with troubleshooting, and sourcing the parts. We need to spread this knowledge fast and help groups to find each other.

Immediately after open sourcing the Fix the World QEG family attended a Prepare for Change Cobra conference in Taipei. We showed a presentation video of the QEG working prototype. Many who attended that conference are spreading the QEG knowledge all over the world. Cobra and his contacts from the light forces came to the factory where we are building QEGs to observe the operation for themselves. They are very impressed and we have the full backing and support of the Resistance Movement. Plans for larger scale production and parts sourcing are underway.

Teams of engineers are forming in more countries than we can count to build QEG’s. Our first hands on experience is here in Taiwan with a group of engineers, many of which came from China who plan to bring the knowledge back to China. These “Men of China” have spent a small fortune and waited for a month just to get Visas to be here in Taiwan for QEG training. They have raised a large sum of money to begin QEG production in China. We were told from a high level contact that the QEG plans will be shared with 5,000 engineers in China who will be making as many innovations on the QEG as possible and open sourcing the plans for each one.

Already we have seen plans for improvements and innovations to the QEG, the engineers of the world are taking full creative license on what can be done once you have achieved an over unity power source. Many are very excited.

One of our suppliers Torelco, is extremely excited about the high demand for processed cores, and many orders have been placed in the last week from all over the world. They are rearranging their workforce to handle the demand and working to get the best possible price for people. They are charging $3,000 for the complete processed core which is a great price, and does not include shipping.

We recommend Torelco for purchasing a finished core which includes laminated steel core and rotor, all mica components, magnet wire, sleeving, spacer blocks, mylar tape and outerwrap tape, 8 inch through-bolts, nuts, washers, Nomex corner insulation and toroidal winding. Since open sourcing, we have learned that our other supplier, Polaris, will charge you double for the bare generator sets. Torelco will give you a much better price for a bare core as well. As FTW continues to roll out the distribution plan, and more connections across the world are made, we think CICUs will be commonplace and hence, QEG parts will be more accessible (many people will be making them!)

Please Watch for Updated User Manuals as development progresses. They will be here: http://www.fixtheworldproject.net/qeg-open-source-documents.html
A Special Note to those who cannot afford the parts to build a QEG.

We understand and are doing the best that we can to find cheaper parts and come up with creative ways to help make QEG’s more affordable. Some of these ideas are sponsorship programs, donated QEG’s to people in need, crowdfunding campaigns where people can pool their resources to buy the parts, and much more. This is all still very new, and in just a little more time (probably about 2-3 months) the people will have enough time to put together systems and manufacturing structures that will make them more affordable. In the meantime, there are many that do have money and the right intentions to build QEG’s. They are helping to bring this out. And since no one owns the QEG, it is available to all, and will become more accessible over time.

FTW Next Steps for QEG

We are getting more questions than we can answer individually, and we want to help as much as we can. To help with this information flow we will be doing a free weekly radio show with James Robitaille and HopeGirl on Mission I’m Possible Radio called “Ask James about the QEG”. Here, people can call in or send questions that James and Hope will answer on the air. The shows will be archived, and we will find a transcriber to type out all of the Questions and Answers and post them in forums for others to find the answers they need. Check the radio station for scheduled show times: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/expandinguradio

Hope will be travelling to London to give a QEG presentation at the Alchemy Event Conference on April 11. While in London, she will also be meeting with Sacha Stone and other members of the truth movement and New Earth Nation to collaborate bringing free energy to the world.

Our next QEG training and building will be in Aouchtam, Morocco at the One People’s Community. Many want to come to see the operation for themselves. Brian Kelly will be organizing travel accommodations. If you would like to join us in Morocco please contact Brian Kelly: http://briankellysblog.blogspot.tw/

There are many other trips and requests planned for the near future, including Peru in June. We will continue to travel as much as we can, as hands on learning is the most effective way to pass on the knowledge. However, at this point it is one of our main concerns to put together a global ‘train the trainer’ program. This would involve training engineers to build QEG’s and showing them how to train others. This way the information can spread much faster and more efficiently. Part of this program would be to strengthen our organizational structure so that we can handle the increased workload.

FIX THE WORLD PUBLIC STATEMENT:

We are not in the prove it business, we are in the do it business. We are doing the work, teaching others how to do it and showing the process so that it is available to all. The most important thing is to get this technology directly into the hands of the people, which is what we are doing. Our working prototype will be proven to the world through the people who believe in free energy enough to do the work needed to bring it out of suppression. Therefore the people will be the ones to make the announcements, which will be more effective, and the people will get all the glory.

130 years ago, Nikola Tesla designed an over unity fuelless generator that could provide enough power to power your home. This technology was heavily suppressed as a way to control the people of this planet through dependence on oil. Tesla’s designs and patents are in the public domain.

Through research, study, help from others, divine inspiration, and over 30 years of electronics engineering experience, James Robitaille of the Fix the World Organization (FTW) took one 1-hour class with an organization who has been building (and suppressing) these generators for over 20 years, and was able to figure out how to build it. We raised the money for the prototype through crowdfunding and donations from over 1,000 people who believed in us. It took us 5 months to build the prototype, and once we got raw power, on March 25th of 2014 we open sourced the plans and gave away the technology to the world. Our Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) provides 10KW of power output for less than 1KW input, which it supplies to itself. Now that this raw power source is achieved and shared so freely, there will be many variations and improvements. Humanity will be co-developing the future of the QEG, and will be free from the enslavement of the oil and energy industries.

FTW has never, nor do we ever intend, to own or control the QEG. It is a gift to the world. Now that we have given away the technology, it is up to the people to build, research, promote, prove, demonstrate, innovate and share. It belongs to humanity and it is up to the people now to spread the QEG around the world. We encourage people in every country to take the initiative, organize in local teams, create forums, websites, youtube videos. Gather your engineers, your business managers, source the parts, raise the funds, and distribute them to your people. You can do so through what we call a Cottage Industry Community Unit. (CICU)

We intend to teach others to build them and if necessary, we may play a role in organizing the supply of the parts to CICU’s who are building QEG’s. To raise the funds to start a program for global QEG training, we may temporarily sell a limited amount of pre-orders. FTW is an organization with over 60 projects that can change the planet and help people in need. The QEG is our pilot project.

Our organization needs funding so that we can continue our work and bring more projects to the world in a similar fashion. This is the way we hope to get funded: establish a give back agreement with CICU’s that are building and selling QEG’s. This agreement is a choice, not a requirement , and can be in any amount that the CICU likes and can be adjusted according to the CICU’s needs at any time.

There have been many attempts at releasing free energy technology in the past. There are many working devices that have been proven over and over again. None of them were successfully delivered to the people. We believe that there are two reasons for this: violent suppression from opposing corporations and negative human characteristics such as greed, fear and control.

Therefore, the only way humanity would have the free energy it needs to survive would be through a completely unconditional and selfless act of kindness and a social media awareness strategy. This is why FTW did it this way. If we tried any other approach, we might not have been successful at our ultimate goal: Above all we want to bring free energy to the people and end the suffering on this planet.

What has been done is unstoppable. Free energy is here NOW. It is Real and it is in the hands of The People. In the first 24 hours of open sourcing, 20,000 people downloaded the plans. Since then social media has allowed it to go viral at record speed. The plans are everywhere in many countries. Engineers are taking this very seriously and we expect that in the next few months, QEG’s will be popping up everywhere. There are simply too many people on this planet to suppress it; we will reach a tipping point.



BEHIND THE SCENES: THE FIRST 6 MONTHS OF QEG DEVELOPMENT

This was not easy. It began in September of last year with a “download” of information that came through my stepfather James Robitaille. He called me when I was in Australia with the news that he had figured out how to make the QEG work. I was meeting with investors in Australia who told me “If you can show us a working prototype, we’ll fund it”. But we didn’t have the $7,000 needed to build the prototype and the investors refused to help. Please understand that our family has very little material wealth (but lots of love!). We struggle to make ends meet and have debt like most of the people in our country trying to survive. We put together a crowdfunding campaign that was over funded by 300 amazing people who believed in us. This turned out to be a good thing, because in the end it actually cost us $15,000 to build the prototype.

From the moment we entered into the arena of free energy, we became a target. During the first 6 months of building the QEG our family was faced with many difficulties and negative opposition both in our personal lives and in our public life. We believe that these obstacles were placed there as a way to try to prevent us from being successful in our goal. We had one crisis after another. Each time we dealt with the crisis and got back to working on the QEG. We also had a lot of attacks and negative comments online. We were called every name in the book and we received death threats. Yes it hurts, especially when all you’re trying to do is help people. We know about paid trolls, and the last efforts of the cabal. We fought the negativity with every spiritual tool we had. Prayer, meditation, energy grids, Love… EVERYTHING. We knew that we were walking into Canaan and going up against giants. In this land we could not win by our natural abilities, we needed supernatural abilities. Faith was mandatory.



There were many moments during this time where we wanted to post what we were doing, and how things would roll out. We wanted to tell everyone what the results were. We wanted to share the miracles, and answer everyone’s questions. But there was so much opposition, our family and the QEG was not yet protected by the open sourcing. We knew that we had to keep silent and wait.

Normally we try to omit negativity in our posts and not give it to much attention. However in this instance we feel that it is important to expose some of the truths that we encountered along the way to help people understand the contrast of why other attempts have failed and why ours worked.

We tried to work with some people that had decades of combined experience. These individuals thought we were moving too fast and wanted to slow everything down so that they could control it. These individuals did not trust the people to be responsible for receiving free energy, and thought that humanity should wait another 20 years until we had gotten everything “perfect” enough to release it. We don’t feel this way. Humanity should have had this 130 years ago (or more). Its time to free the people.

We tried to work with some people that could teach us their methods of building free energy devices. These people wanted a lot of money for their knowledge and omitted information so that we would keep coming back.

We met with many wealthy people; some of them billionaires. They said they wanted to help the planet, they promised they would fund our projects with huge sums of money. They wasted a lot of our time, drained our energy, and slowed us down from achieving our goal. They believed they were wealthy because they “earned it” and that people who were poor brought it upon themselves. Therefore they wanted us to do lots of extra free work for them in order to “earn” a donation from them. We tried to see their perspective and work with them in every way we could think of. After 1 ½ years we never received funding from any of them. In some cases, not even a $5 contribution to a campaign. We have grown very weary of promises of huge funding and no longer have time to invest in chasing the dangling carrots. Those who are serious will understand that this is not about the money, it is about the intention. Those with the right intentions could never watch someone struggle and suffer without doing something to help. In contrast, those with wealth who have contributed with the right intentions, and the 1,000+ “average” people who donate to our campaigns in small amounts and are happy to give what they can because it makes them feel good to be a part of creating this Golden Age together with us. It is THESE people that have made the QEG possible.

We have had many people attempting to give us business advice based on their ignorance of suppression and corruption. We were “very strongly advised” to do many things in the “traditional” way, all of which we knew were part of controlled corporate government systems. We had to discern every decision, every conversation and every piece of information presented to us to ensure that this entire process was completely free from the grasp of those that want to suppress it.

During this time we also had many strong moments of miracles. Each and every time we thought we might fail, God showed up, the people showed up, and everyone helped. We never lost our faith in succeeding in something we believed in. We learned many lessons along the way. For every negative experience there were 10 amazing positive experiences. We chose to keep our focus on the beautiful messages and the beautiful support we received, and this is what kept us going in our most trying moments. It is the reason why this whole thing worked. Never underestimate the power of kindness and love. It is far more powerful than any negativity and suppression, and the QEG is living proof of that.

A Word for the Believers:
This is the moment many have been waiting decades for . Now it is up to each and every one of us to actively engage in doing the work. Find parts, find engineers, find a workspace, pool your resources and work together and you can manifest this for yourselves right now. We can visualize and meditate for a QEG for a long time before we have one providing the power in our homes. Now is the time to act in any way you can to make this happen for yourself and your people.

A Word for the Skeptics:
Please try to have an open mind. This is real and many people desperately need this. If we told you 30 years ago that everyone would be walking around with smartphones, you would have thought we were crazy. If you want to be skeptical that is your right and we can respect that. In the next few months as people start building QEG’s you will have whatever you need to feel comfortable with this change. In the meantime we ask that you refrain from spreading negativity during the infant stages of something that so many brave souls are making great sacrifices to achieve.

A Word to the Inventors and Engineers of Free Energy Technology

We know what you have been through and we know that it has not been easy. Humanity needs your inventions and many of you need recognition and financial support for your work. The old ways of doing business DO NOT WORK. We know this because no one has free energy, until now. This can be your opportunity to get your inventions out there. If you follow our example and open source your inventions there are enough good people out there in this world that will help you have what you need, and in return humanity will have what they need and we can put an end to the suffering on this planet once and for all. We took a stand and did this. Who will stand with us?

Stay tuned here for the next post coming in the next day or two which will feature our QEG building in Taiwan. Lots of pictures and videos to show you just how real and amazing this breakthrough is!

https://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/04/03/if-you-build-it-and-give-it-away-they-will-come-qeg-full-disclosure/

Ares
3rd April 2014, 06:51 PM
Here's the manual for the QEG.

http://hopegirl2012.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/qeg-user-manual-3-25-14.pdf

Download it

Neuro
3rd April 2014, 06:55 PM
I would have appreciated if they had talked about the physics of the machine rather than money issues they had. If anyone here decides to build this let us know how it goes...

Serpo
3rd April 2014, 07:02 PM
But but what about the poor oil companies ,want they miss out.............


oh hang on air pollution kills millions every year ,so f#ck them

7th trump
3rd April 2014, 07:14 PM
SOMEBITCH!
They have the same idea as I do but instead of the rotor inside...the rotor goes outside the coils at a 90 degree. This way there is no magnetic resistance to overcome and very little hp is needed to turn the rotor.
Being at a 90 degree you get the full potential of magnetic lines of flux cutting across the copper wire. It'll be DC of course but you'll get max amps for the rpms. And run this through a 60hz oscillator as they do (palani disagrees) and you have a very efficient home generator.

Ares
3rd April 2014, 07:31 PM
SOMEBITCH!
They have the same idea as I do but instead of the rotor inside...the rotor goes outside the coils at a 90 degree. This way there is no magnetic resistance to overcome and very little hp is needed to turn the rotor.
Being at a 90 degree you get the full potential of magnetic lines of flux cutting across the copper wire. It'll be DC of course but you'll get max amps for the rpms. And run this through a 60hz oscillator as they do (palani disagrees) and you have a very efficient home generator.

You gonna build one? I actually thought of you with your Electrical experience as I posted this. If you think you might, PM me and I'll help however I can from North Carolina.

7th trump
3rd April 2014, 08:23 PM
=Ares;701982]You gonna build one? I actually thought of you with your Electrical experience as I posted this. If you think you might, PM me and I'll help however I can from North Carolina.

I have a close design of what they are doing. The parts are lasered out of stainless steel. I have another cnc router in the making to mill out some plastic parts for the coils (I do have a back up plan using aluminum angle).
The motor is using a crank and rod out of an old chainsaw. The crank is sandwiched between two 4 hole bearing blocks. I'm going the route of a unique solenoid design using 200lb neo magnets opposing an electromagnet coil setup.

Here a pic of the chainsaw crank and bearing block motor I designed 3 years ago...its not done yet so this is what I have so far.
I have the pieces for the upper half but not put together and attached to what you see.61956196

Heres what I have lasered out in stainless.6198

The frame is out of 80/20 aluminum extrusion the stainless will be bolted to. The magnets will spin at a 90 degree from the individual coils and act as a flywheel at the same time. Theres more lasered parts but they are packed away at this time in the garage.

Ares
3rd April 2014, 08:35 PM
I have a close design of what they are doing. The parts are lasered out of stainless steel. I have another cnc router in the making to mill out some plastic parts for the coils (I do have a back up plan using aluminum angle).
The motor is using a crank and rod out of an old chainsaw. The crank is sandwiched between two 4 hole bearing blocks. I'm going the route of a unique solenoid design using 200lb neo magnets opposing an electromagnet coil setup.

Here a pic of the chainsaw crank and bearing block motor I designed 3 years ago...its not done yet so this is what I have so far.
I have the pieces for the upper half but not put together and attached to what you see.61956196

Heres what I have lasered out in stainless.6198

The frame is out of 80/20 aluminum extrusion the stainless will be bolted to. The magnets will spin at a 90 degree from the individual coils and act as a flywheel at the same time. Theres more lasered parts but they are packed away at this time in the garage.

Cool, having power being decentralized is beneficial for all I believe. Anytime a storm comes through here in NC I lose power. According to the design specs, they said the generator could output 10 - 15kw, which isn't too bad. However average homes us over 1000-1500kw a month, and if my math is right that means an average home will use 100 to 150 kw a day. So if my math is correct and it might not be, you'd need like 10 of these to power a house.

7th trump
3rd April 2014, 08:51 PM
Cool, having power being decentralized is beneficial for all I believe. Anytime a storm comes through here in NC I lose power. According to the design specs, they said the generator could output 10 - 15kw, which isn't too bad. However average homes us over 1000-1500kw a month, and if my math is right that means an average home will use 100 to 150 kw a day. So if my math is correct and it might not be, you'd need like 10 of these to power a house.

I just want to generate 12vdc to charge the battery banks 24/7/365. I'll let the battery banks do the work for me then they can charge all day and night.
Most of the lighting in the house is already converted to 12vdc 10w LEDs I got off ebay around 2 bucks a piece.

Ponce
3rd April 2014, 09:15 PM
Someday you will have the "Magnomotor" where only the central part rotates.....but is more than that, it is a way to isolate magnetism where they will not either attract or repel each other .....or if you want to, will not attach themselves to any metal......impossible? yes, till it is done. Flying was impossible, going around the world was impossible, traveling above 60 mph was impossible or at the speed of sound.......it was all impossible till it was done.

The Magnomoter will work in space, bottom of the sea, inside of a cave, your house, your car, your mountain cabin.......in silence and without heating up......it will last "for ever" meaning that for as long as there is magnetisim or as long as the bearing at both end of the Magnomotor are still working... and of course as long as the generator is working..........maybe someone will be able to make the Magnomotor also create the energy.

V

7th trump
3rd April 2014, 09:26 PM
Someday you will have the "Magnomotor" where only the central part rotates.....but is more than that, it is a way to isolate magnetism where they will not either attract or repel each other .....or if you want to, will not attach themselves to any metal......impossible? yes, till it is done. Flying was impossible, going around the world was impossible, traveling above 60 mph was impossible or at the speed of sound.......it was all impossible till it was done.

The Magnomoter will work in space, bottom of the sea, inside of a cave, your house, your car, your mountain cabin.......in silence and without heating up......it will last "for ever" meaning that for as long as there is magnetisim or as long as the bearing at both end of the Magnomotor are still working... and of course as long as the generator is working..........maybe someone will be able to make the Magnomotor also create the energy.

V

That is the precise reason what I have lasered out is made of grade A stainless steel...thick enough that the magnetic lines of flux do not penetrate through to the other side effectively reducing the magnetic flux on that side. Nor will the two opposite rotating ring of magnets effect each other or be attracted to any metal.
I have to get the magnets as close as possible to the 12 coils of copper wire to get maximum current flow

Serpo
3rd April 2014, 10:02 PM
speaking of batteries.......



A Silicon Anode Breaks Out for Lithium Ion Batteries (http://newenergyandfuel.com/http:/newenergyandfuel/com/2014/04/02/a-silicon-anode-breaks-out-for-lithium-ion-batteries/)

Horn
3rd April 2014, 10:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al_nqxSgIz4

Horn
3rd April 2014, 10:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCmu6sbXPlM

Dogman
3rd April 2014, 11:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCmu6sbXPlM That belt is looser than a goose, or Be nice dog , be nice..

May look at the vid later, but the energy lost by that belt can not be good,

Major storm overhead,

Horn
4th April 2014, 12:16 AM
Major storm overhead,

Go fly a kite, Dogman.

Dogman
4th April 2014, 12:34 AM
Go fly a kite, Dogman.Crap horn, I could have flown a man lifting kite, the gods were not angry with me on this one.

Go eat a banana horn! ;D

monty
4th April 2014, 07:44 AM
Cool, having power being decentralized is beneficial for all I believe. Anytime a storm comes through here in NC I lose power. According to the design specs, they said the generator could output 10 - 15kw, which isn't too bad. However average homes us over 1000-1500kw a month, and if my math is right that means an average home will use 100 to 150 kw a day. So if my math is correct and it might not be, you'd need like 10 of these to power a house.

We had a 5KW Witte diesel light plant on the ranch where I grew up. It powered the well, lights in 3 houses and one bunkhouse. There was one electric refrigerator, and a small bench grinder for sharpening mower sickles etc. If my mother wanted to iron clothes she had to be sure that no one was using the bench grinder. The light plant was maxed out, but it provided the basics.

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Ares
4th April 2014, 07:54 AM
We had a 5KW Witte diésel light plant on the ranch where I grew up. I powered the well, lights in 3 houses and one bunkhouse. There was one electric refrigerator, and a small bench grinder for sharpen in mower sickles etc. If my mother wanted to iron clothes she had to be sure that no one was using the bench grinder. The light plant was mande out, but it provided the básics.

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My parents have a small gasoline generator for times when the power is out for an extended amount of time. Usually 4 hours or more, freezer full of food, and to power the well is basically what they use it for.

If this design really works, I wouldn't mind partnering with someone to build it for the masses. Not everyone is going to have the know how, time, patients of trial and error to get one of these built and working. There is a lot of money to be made with this device if you can make it in mass production to lesson cost.

Now would you have a battery bank (which is expensive) to store the electricity, or derive the power directly from source after conversion to AC?

Dogman
4th April 2014, 07:57 AM
Cool, having power being decentralized is beneficial for all I believe. Anytime a storm comes through here in NC I lose power. According to the design specs, they said the generator could output 10 - 15kw, which isn't too bad. However average homes us over 1000-1500kw a month, and if my math is right that means an average home will use 100 to 150 kw a day. So if my math is correct and it might not be, you'd need like 10 of these to power a house. The trick is wise energy management! One does not want to power everything all at once, be smart on the loading, keep the reefers, select lights, a/c if in season if the gen set is big enough for the starting load and or heater motor. Know what your load is and ration it to match your gen set output. Freezers/reefers can stand being unpowered for hours and then turned on to keep the temps low enough so nothing spoils.

Energy management is everything, and also can save fuel, by not running everything balls to the walls all the time.

Imho!

I have not and would not ever own a all electric house.

monty
4th April 2014, 08:08 AM
The trick is wise energy management! One does not want to power everything all at once, be smart on the loading, keep the reefers, select lights, a/c if in season and the gen set is big enough for the starting load, heater motor. Know what your load is and ration it to match your gen set output. Freezers/reefers can stand being unpowered for hours and then turned on to keep the temps low enough so nothing spoils.

Energy management is everything, and also can save fuel, by not running everything balls to the walls all the time.

Imho!

I have not and would not ever own a all electric house.



I did own an all electric house in the late 1960's. You are SOL if the power goes out. Before the grid we had one power line coming across the White Mountains. The storms would knock the lines down. Crews had to snowshoe in to make repairs. Power was out 4 or 5 days at a time. Break out the Coleman stove and lanterns!

Dogman
4th April 2014, 08:14 AM
I did own an all electric house in the late 1960's. You are SOL if the power goes out. Before the grid we had one power line coming across the White Mountains. The storms would knock the lines down. Crews had to snowshoe in to make repairs. Power was out 4 or 5 days at a time. Break out the Coleman stove and lanterns! Truth!

Some of my neighbors houses are all electric that were built after my home was built, and during winter we have had some ice storms over the last almost 50 years here that the power goes out. These newer all electric homes were SOl , I at least still had natural gas, so when not powering the heater motor when using the central system, I could fire up the oven or stove top for heat. Neighbors had to go live with relatives or motels. And then pray that the pipes did not burst when the house freezes.

Said with a smug expression on my face!

Horn
4th April 2014, 08:24 AM
If living where no heat or AC is required, hot water can be done with solar and tank, stove with propane. 2 of these thing IF working could probably handle the rest at 5kw on some batteries, but there's that big IF you could get them to work reliably, or IF you're going to spend $10k to get them working reliably for an extended time.

Dogman
4th April 2014, 08:50 AM
If living where no heat or AC is required, hot water can be done with solar and tank, stove with propane. 2 of these thing IF working could probably handle the rest at 5kw on some batteries, but there's that big IF you could get them to work reliably, or if you're going to spend $10k to get them working reliably for an extended time.Years back a friend of mine and myself played and tinkered with making a totally passive direct convection hot water system (no motor/pump) made our panels with copper pipe that we had another friend that was an sheet metal "artist" to makeup copper fins for the pipes, everything in the panels was painted with hi temp flat black paint. Float valve for freshwater tank recharge, and propane water heater for backup/cloudy days. Draw the heated water from the top of the tank, fill from the bottom, as feeding the panels also from the bottom.

Using the fact that hot water is lighter/less gravity than cold (dense) hi gravity. It worked and as far as I know still working, lost contact 20 or so years ago.

Neuro
4th April 2014, 08:53 AM
Cool, having power being decentralized is beneficial for all I believe. Anytime a storm comes through here in NC I lose power. According to the design specs, they said the generator could output 10 - 15kw, which isn't too bad. However average homes us over 1000-1500kw a month, and if my math is right that means an average home will use 100 to 150 kw a day. So if my math is correct and it might not be, you'd need like 10 of these to power a house.
For fucks sake! Doesn't anyone know the difference between effect (kW) and energy (kWh) any longer? This machine, if working, which I think is very doubtful, has an effect of 10 kW, which means in one hour it will produce 10 kWh, in a day 240 kWh, and in a month 7200 kWh. These geysers are directing sales of equipment to 2 companies, they probably own themselves for what $7500? Probably those coils or whatever they are, are only worth $50 or so. But I am sure they can sell plenty to people who don't know the fucking difference between kW and kWh.

Dogman
4th April 2014, 08:56 AM
For fucks sake! Doesn't anyone know the difference between effect (kW) and energy (kWh) any longer? This machine, if working, which I think is very doubtful, has an effect of 10 kW, which means in one hour it will produce 10 kWh, in a day 240 kWh, and in a month 7200 kWh. These geysers are directing sales of equipment to 2 companies, they probably own themselves for what $7500? Probably those coils or whatever they are, are only worth $50 or so. But I am sure they can sell plenty to people who don't know the fucking difference between kW and kWh. Snake oil anyone! All of these devices mostly are scams.

Perpetual energy anyone!

Neuro = Truth!

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Horn
4th April 2014, 08:58 AM
Guy I know uses some direct panels from Germany for water, I had thought they were the vacuum type but he says no.

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He uses them in cross connect to warm pools also, so you are heating both pool and house water (backed by electric tank) Works on cloudy days, i ask no more questions from the Germans.

Dogman
4th April 2014, 09:06 AM
Guy I know uses some direct panels from Germany for water, I had thought they were the vacuum type but he says no.

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He uses them in cross connect to warm pools also, so you are heating both pool and house water. Works on cloudy days, i ask no more questions from the Germans. He had to have some kind of heat exchanger to heat the water or were built into the panels. The same sort of systems are used the opposite way to keep things frozen in alaska, the Alaskan pipe line heat pipes as one example.

http://www.faculty.virginia.edu/ribando/modules/ExtendedSurface/pipeline1.gif


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_pipe

Horn
4th April 2014, 09:16 AM
Well we can all basically state in todays world we would find these machines hard to compete with a competent solar plant system installed properly.

Unless you want to build an almighty Tesla Tower connected to them to power the entire block and become your own company. :)

Dogman
4th April 2014, 09:23 AM
Well we can all basically state in todays world we would find these machines hard to compete with a competent solar plant system installed properly.

Unless you want to build an almighty Tesla Tower connected to them to power the entire block and become your own company. :)

Tesla was wonderful in its day, today with all of the electronics unless shielded would be fried by the hash that a Tesla tower would put out.

Forget over the air T.V , any kind of radio reception, except possibility F.M.

Tesla coils are super wide band rf, noise generating machines. that radiate rf noise from dam near dc to light as far as frequency's go.

Horn
4th April 2014, 09:25 AM
Another different and practical application for them might be on magic carpets.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ4ZROYrG8s

Dogman
4th April 2014, 09:27 AM
Another different and practical application for them might be on a magic carpets.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ4ZROYrG8s
Blast from the past!

Horn
4th April 2014, 09:30 AM
Tesla was wonderful in its day, today with all of the electronics unless shielded would be fried by the hash that a Tesla tower would put out.

Forget over the air T.V , any kind of radio reception, except possibility F.M.

Tesla coils are super wide band rf, noise generating machines. that radiate rf noise from dam near dc to light as far as frequency's go.

You aren't going high enough, Dogman...

need more string


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am04NZL8pA4

Hot water is optional anyways.

Hatha Sunahara
4th April 2014, 10:51 AM
For fucks sake! Doesn't anyone know the difference between effect (kW) and energy (kWh) any longer? This machine, if working, which I think is very doubtful, has an effect of 10 kW, which means in one hour it will produce 10 kWh, in a day 240 kWh, and in a month 7200 kWh. These geysers are directing sales of equipment to 2 companies, they probably own themselves for what $7500? Probably those coils or whatever they are, are only worth $50 or so. But I am sure they can sell plenty to people who don't know the fucking difference between kW and kWh.

KW is (in my lexicon) capacity--i.e. the ability of the generator to produce electricity. KWH is energy, or the product of the machine. KW of the machine is it's rated capacity. KW of a load is the instantaneous (highest use in an hour) or peak demand on the machine. This is measured on a recording electric meter that will tell you the instantaneous load at any given moment. KWH is the amount of KW taken over a period of one hour. Normally, this is what you are billed for by the electric utility each month when they take a meter reading. Some businesses are billed for both energy and capacity--that is the quantity of electricity they take, and a separate bill for the highest hour of load during the month. So, for example, if you were to run a 10 KW QEG at full capacity for a month, it would produce 10 KW per hour. There are 744 hours in a 31 day month, so this machine could produce 7,440 KWH. An average residential customer uses on average 1250 KWH per month. This is less than 20% of the capability of the machine. If your electricity costs you 10 cents per KWH including generation, transmission, and distribution costs, you would be saving $122.50 per month.

Your savings, however would be a loss of revenue to the electric company serving you, without a corresponding reduction in cost. Electric utilities are capital intensive, which means they have borrowed a lot of money for their physical plant. They have to pay a mortgage. So, like a hotel, if they cannot keep their rooms filled with paying guests, they will go bankrupt. (Or they will declare themselves 'too big to fail' and ask the government for a bailout.)

If this QEG actually works, the utility companies will resist it's use. So will the oil interests because it means that people will be able to use electric cars and not gasoline burners. The economic interests arrayed against it will kill it one way or another. It will either be taxed into oblivion, licensed into oblivion, or outlawed outright.

They say that the only real revolutions are created by technology. Nobody ever talks about the technology police that prevents new technology from upsetting the existing order--the status quo. A number of developers of such free energy devices have met unfortunate ends. Stanley Meyer is one of these people. I think an accurate measure of whether the technology works or not is if the developer has met an untimely end. I just wonder if the people pushing this QEG are aware of the forces opposing them. One way to defeat the opposition is to get the technology into widespread use. This is what they are trying to do.

I would like to see a completed version of this device working. If I were going to promote such a device, I would build it quietly and get it working. Then I would quietly seek funding for building a dozen of these devices, and then I would sell them quietly, along with the plans for building them, to engineers and crafstmen, who could do the same as I have done-that is, build a dozen of them and sell them with the plans. Having a working device is essential to selling it. People will buy something they can see working a lot faster than they would buy a promise that it will work. It would go viral quickly, and TPTB who oppose this would not be able to stop it. The biggest drawback to the QEG is that it costs thousands of dollars to build, and the plans are not conducive to getting others to duplicate the device. If anything unfortunate happens to these promoters, I would assume that their device actually works. It's kind of a strange position to be in.


Hatha

Serpo
4th April 2014, 02:28 PM
http://www.zengardner.com/brazilian-inventors-bring-free-energy-device-to-market/

Horn
4th April 2014, 03:00 PM
http://www.zengardner.com/brazilian-inventors-bring-free-energy-device-to-market/


The device requires a small amount of initial input power to initiate the movement of a sensor, which then produces over-unity power. The device is small, which means it can be used to power vehicles, homes, and businesses. The site claims the input power needed to run it is around 2% of its output power.

They have several sizes of the generator. The smallest prototype they built is capable of generating 12.1 kw of power, with a load of 6000 watts, using only 21 watts input energy. The prototype unit weighs 1.5 kg measuring 20x30x15 cm. The average home needs around 15 kw of power

The product looks legit. If this is for real, it will replace Dark Wallet as the second most important creation in the history of man, behind Bitcoin of course. The petro-dollar will surely topple in the face of this invention.

And like Bitcoin, the electricity produced will mysteriously vanish off of ximmy's computer. :)

Would be an interesting coil to hook up to a solar panel to see what it could do.

singular_me
4th April 2014, 04:39 PM
MAJOR EDIT: HATHA... The biggest drawback to the QEG is that it costs thousands of dollars to build, and the plans are not conducive to getting others to duplicate the device. If anything unfortunate happens to these promoters, I would assume that their device actually works. It's kind of a strange position to be in.

well I hadnt read Hatha's 2 cents before posting mine saying that the device seems inexpensive to make according to the pic in the OP.


however, it is something that all tesla skeptics should challenge... for my part, I am going to show this to a retired scientist from los alamos and who has built his own electric car - and of course, forward the link.

the skype chat room log on script doesnt seem logical to me... but I will try as soon as early next week

edison debunking tesla... ROFLOL
Tesla Debunked - The Edison Tech Center
(Google this)



130 years ago, Nikola Tesla designed an over unity fuelless generator that could provide enough power to power your home. This technology was heavily suppressed as a way to control the people of this planet through dependence on oil. Tesla’s designs and patents are in the public domain.

Serpo
6th April 2014, 03:34 AM
http://be-do.com/index.php/en/

singular_me
6th April 2014, 07:55 AM
well I dont know, if they are truly willing to attend this conference, they may not be lying/deceptive.

when I am reading all these unknown names, I feel like being behind... time to do some homework I guess :)


hopegirl to present qeg to the world at the alchemy event conference in london april 11-13 2014!
http://www.fixtheworldproject.net/alchemy-event-conference.html


WHO IS GOING TO BE AT THIS CONFERENCE!
KEYNOTE SPEAKERS: Michael Tellinger, Sean David Morton, Nuclear Plant Specialist Mehran Keshe, Princess Kaoru Nakamaru, Dr. Rauni Kilde, Movement Founder Saeed David Farman, Dr. Stephen Hopwood, Dr. Nick Delgado, Dr. Catherine Athans, Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd., Kerry Lynn Cassidy, Dr. Marek Roland, Dr. Turi, Konstantin Pavlidis, Gita Vadhwana, Matias De Stefano, Mazatzin Aztekayolokalli, Dr. Tatiana Sadovska, Jamie Janover, Eric Dadmehr, John Consemulder, Alan Bedian, Richard Cumbers, Paul Salahuddin Armstrong, Dr. Karim Darwish, Maitreya Miranda, Gano Grills, Ralph Ring, HopeGirl, Sean Maguire, Clive De Carle, Renske Skills, Aniko Nagy & Christian Justice
https://www.facebook.com/events/187042818150576/

FOR MORE INFO CHECK OUT THESE WEBSITE LINKS:

NEW HUMANITY MOVEMENT
http://www.fixtheworldproject.net/alchemy-event-conference.html

http://arkofhealers.com/


SYNCRENICITY- free energy news
http://syncrenicity.com/category/energy-tech/free-energy/

IN LONDON, UK: ALSO STREAMING LIVE PAY PER VIEW EVENT!
DATE: APRIL 11TH-12TH -13TH, 2014, 9:00 AM TO 11:00 PM, GMT DAILY
Topic of HopeGirls Lecture: “How We are Bringing Free Energy to the People”

Horn
6th April 2014, 08:50 AM
http://be-do.com/index.php/en/



April 4, 2104

From the Fix the World QEG Team:

One of our suppliers Torelco, is extremely excited about the high demand for processed cores, and many orders have been placed in the last week from all over the world. They are rearranging their workforce to handle the demand and working to get the best possible price for people. They are charging $3,000 for the complete processed core which is a great price, and does not include shipping.

http://be-do.com/index.php/en/qeg-parts-tools/115-qeg-generator-core-rotor

$3000 only for a completed core on a wearable machine, I imagine the rest of the parts would be somewhere around $1200 for a total of $4200 if you can find them all without having to machine some yourself, then hope all goes well.

Or $5500 for a complete solid state solar kit?

https://www.anapode.com/products/2500w_2_5kw_Complete_Solar_Panel_Module_Kit_DIY

Serpo
6th April 2014, 01:57 PM
http://www.apparentlyapparel.com/2/post/2014/04/the-pyramid-energy-tesla-connection.html http://www.apparentlyapparel.com/uploads/5/3/5/6/5356442/269017759.jpg?729

Horn
6th April 2014, 02:43 PM
Unable to keep the facility going or find new backers, Tesla was forced to abandon Wardenclyffe permanently in 1911. In 1915 he transferred ownership of the property to George C. Boldt, owner of the Waldorf-Astoria, to satisfy his $20,000 hotel bill (judicious money management was not Tesla’s strong suit, obviously). Boldt sold the property in 1925. In 1939 it was purchased by Peerless Photo Products who made a toxic dump of cadmium and silver out of it. AGFA bought it from them in 1969 and used the Stanford White building until 1992. In the 2000s New York State made AGFA clean up the toxic materials so as of 2009 it could be sold without all those bald children arousing suspicion.Which brings us to today and the potential commercial buyers versus the potential for a kickass Tesla science museum. Click here to help make the dream a reality (http://www.indiegogo.com/teslamuseum).

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http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/19091