Chemotherapy is a Waste of Money

[Serpo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLyMhNdcSc

http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor/upload/1393/images/CANCER%20ONE.jpg



http://beforeitsnews.com/healthcare/2014/04/chemo-97-innefective-but-it-makes-doctors-big-pharma-billions-while-cannabinoids-work-so-well-the-u-s-government-patented-them-in-2003-2455352.html

[Shami-Amourae]

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/03/31/97-percent-time-chemotherapy-work-continues-used-one-reason/

97 Percent of The Time, Chemotherapy Does Not Work And Continues To Be Used Only For One Reason (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/04/97-percent-of-time-chemotherapy-does.html)

http://chemotherapyadvices.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Chemotherapy-Regimen-2.jpg (http://chemotherapyadvices.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Chemotherapy-Regimen-2.jpg)
Doctors and pharmaceutical companies make money from it. That’s the only reason chemotherapy is still used. Not because it’s effective, decreases morbidity, mortality or diminishes any specific cancer rates. In fact, it does the opposite. Chemotherapy boosts cancer growth and long-term mortality rates. Most chemotherapy patients either die or are plagued with illness within 10-15 years after treatment. It destroys their immune system, increases neuro-cognitive decline, disrupts endocrine functioning and causes organ and metabolic toxicities. Patients basically live in a permanent state of disease until their death. The cancer industry marginalizes safe and effective cures while promoting their patented, expensive, and toxic remedies whose risks far exceed any benefit. This is what they do best, and they do it because it makes money, plain and simple.
***Read full article here*** (http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/03/31/97-percent-time-chemotherapy-work-continues-used-one-reason/)

[Serpo]

When you add it all up ,there is nothing worse than this and is total proof of a twisted agenda against ...the people....

[Dogman]

Not saying the op is wrong, have known several people that had been through the cemo treatment. Most lived, and others did not, chemo is poison, tho the theory is it is more toxic to the cancer than healthy cells. The chemo killed some, but methnks saved others. ? Do think if they did not take the crap shoot, they all may have died. Whointhehellreallyknows?

Tho I have had friends do the hidden/banned cures and all have died after the charlatans extracted all of the money they could giving their "cure"!

[palani]

The Rockefeller money started with chemotherapy. It is the family business. The AMA and the Rockefellers are synonymous.


http://www.corbettreport.com/meet-william-rockefeller-snake-oil-salesman/


The image of the traveling snake oil salesman of 19th century America is by now a familiar trope. It is the image of the heartless huckster who preys upon the trust of the general public to swindle them out of their hard-earned savings. With a bottle of useless tonic and the help of a plant in the audience, the snake oil salesman made a living out of lies and deceit.

In these respects, William Levingston was your average snake oil salesman.

He used a made-up title, billing himself as “Dr. Bill Levingston, Celebrated Cancer Specialist” despite being neither a doctor nor celebrated nor a cancer specialist.

He was an inveterate cheat and liar, having abandoned his first wife and their six children to start a bigamous marriage in Canada at the same time as he fathered two more children by a third woman.

And like every snake oil salesman, he had a cure-all tonic to hock. He called it Rock Oil and charged $25 a bottle for it, equivalent at the time to two months’ salary for the average American worker. Claiming it could cure all but the most terminal cancers, there were always desperate souls in every town who could be duped into buying a bottle.

As near as anyone can tell, “Rock Oil” was in fact just a mixture of laxative and petroleum and had no effect whatsoever on the cancer of the poor townsfolk he conned into buying it. But “Dr. Bill” didn’t have to worry about the consequences when his customers discovered they’d been had; he never stayed in any one place for very long.

Yes, in almost every respect, William Levingston was your run-of-the-mill snake oil huckster, someone who had no compunction about preying on the weak and the innocent in his pursuit of wealth and power.

There was one thing that set him apart however. His name was not in fact “Levingston.” That was an identity he had assumed after being indicted for raping a girl in Cayuga in 1849. His actual name was William Avery Rockefeller, and he was the father of John D. Rockefeller, founder of the infamous Rockefeller dynasty.

[Glass]

I don't think people know what a snake oil salesman is these days. They don't play those old movies anymore that had the snake oil salesman standing on the back of a truck doing the spiel. As a result people got no clue.

I know someone who went through the whole thing, chemo then radiation. I didn't know them before they started treatment. Smoker and not looking after themselves. You can see they were crook. Very grey skin. Anyway pulled through. Maybe 12 months since they got the ok.

I know someone else who has just finished chemo and are about to do radio. They still have some way to go. They lost all their hair, some finger/toe nails, swollen feet, sore jaws, aching teeth.

I know someone else who did no treatment and didn't make it. People tried to get them to do some alt treatment. no dice.

I think the persons constitution plays a big part in this.

[singular_me]

I have read many non mainstrean reviews, and they all say that chemo is a 50-50% chance... which is designed on purpose, so people will choose to undergo chemo - and of course cancer Inc benefits, its a win-win for the criminals




Not saying the op is wrong, have known several people that had been through the cemo treatment. Most lived, and others did not, chemo is poison, tho the theory is it is more toxic to the cancer than healthy cells. The chemo killed some, but methnks saved others. ? Do think if they did not take the crap shoot, they all may have died. Whointhehellreallyknows?

Tho I have had friends do the hidden/banned cures and all have died after the charlatans extracted all of the money they could giving their "cure"!

[Dogman]

I don't think people know what a snake oil salesman is these days. They don't play those old movies anymore that had the snake oil salesman standing on the back of a truck doing the spiel. As a result people got no clue.

I know someone who went through the whole thing, chemo then radiation. I didn't know them before they started treatment. Smoker and not looking after themselves. You can see they were crook. Very grey skin. Anyway pulled through. Maybe 12 months since they got the ok.

I know someone else who has just finished chemo and are about to do radio. They still have some way to go. They lost all their hair, some finger/toe nails, swollen feet, sore jaws, aching teeth.

I know someone else who did no treatment and didn't make it. People tried to get them to do some alt treatment. no dice.

I think the persons constitution plays a big part in this. Constitution and the very real thing, that is called the will to live. I know I would do it, if my only other chance to live is to die. By that point what is there to lose?

Not a dam thing. You will ether make it and it will make a difference or you die!

Easy choice for me at least.

[palani]

I know I would do it, if my only other chance to live is to die.

Except the AMA will tell you that if they can't cure cancer then nobody is permitted to. In reality I believe your body fights and defeats cancer daily. Your problem crops up when your immune system gets tired out and can't perform.

[Twisted Titan]

Dying to have known.......


Very good video in the Gershon Therapy

[Heimdhal]

Weve had a high cancer rate in our family. I lost my father to cancer (an incredibly rare and aggressive form that attacked his hormone production). He was so weakened by it when they attempted the chemo as a last ditch effort it shut him down totaly.

Had an aunt get breast cancer, beat it with chemo/rad treatments around '98-99. Shes back undergoing treatment now (about 15 years later), it came back. My mother in law had a double masectomy a few years back. They told her the kind of cancer she had, if she clears the 5 year mark without it returning, she have a good chance. If not...well... Both of these women were in their 40's when they got it.

Just lost a cousin (early 40's) to breast cancer last year. She did every treatment you could imagine, chemo, alternative, even some out there ones because it was so aggressive it was spreading all over her body. Finly got to her brain and thats what got her.

Chemo is like a race to the death to see who can hang on longest. They cancer or the patient. Cancer medicine is MAJOR $$$$$$, its a big industry and they like to get people on the medicine as early as possible. In part it makes sense, do it while the body is healthiest, can handle the stress, instead of (like my dead) when its weak and near death and chemo is just the shove over the cliff. It makes more sense from the money angle: keep them paying as long as possibe. Some of that medicine is $500-1,000+ PER Pill


Cancer rate is now something like 1 in 2 people. Thats just mind boggling. Basically, flip a coin when you're born and those are you cancer odds. better than a casino, pretty shitty over all.

[Dogman]

Except the AMA will tell you that if they can't cure cancer then nobody is permitted to. In reality I believe your body fights and defeats cancer daily. Your problem crops up when your immune system gets tired out and can't perform. I think I do agree with what you say. Tired or just overwhelmed ether one will kill they that have it.

[mick silver]

i know a few good people thats still walking around because they had it done

[Shami-Amourae]

Dying to have known.......


Very good video in the Gershon Therapy
The Gerson Therapy you mean:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvzDHGLEUyw

One of the very few "Good Jews" in this world.

[Neuro]

i know a few good people thats still walking around because they had it doneYes, my dad is another one. However he did it slightly differently on my advice, and fortunately his oncologist went along with it. He was diagnosed with malignant melanoma last winter, which had spread to local lymph nodes and lung. Pretty much regardless of treatment you die within 2-6 months with a diagnoses like that, incredibly aggressive cancer. When he got the message he had already booked a trip to Thailand. I was spending a week reading as much as I could about it, figured that the standard chemotherapy wouldn't really improve on his survival chances. However I also read that early trials in vitro (test tube), showed some promising results re dandelion roots extract killing off malignant melanoma cells. So I told my dad to start drinking tea made with dandelion root, he was initially skeptical of it, but he also told him that his oncologist had read about it as well, so they agreed, that my dad would bring dandelion root to Thailand and drink it 4-5 cups a day, instead of starting chemo immediately (which was the oncologists professional opinion he should do, but since my dad was going to Thailand he thought it better to wait)... So when he comes back the tumor in his lung had grown from ø 11 mm to ø 19 mm, but he was feeling fine otherwise, and it was 3 mths before the previous x-ray. But they had agreed if the tumor had grown they should start chemo (a newer drug), so they did, the oncologist told him that in some cases the drug had shown promising results, with a stop in growth or even a reduction of tumor size. So he started taking the drug, he didn't have much of side-effects, and the tumors on his back started shrinking, three months later he had another x-ray, and the lung tumor was much weakened, the lymph node tumors were practically gone, another three months and no tumors detected at all... He just came back from Thailand after spending 4.5 months there and he looked healthy, he just had another x-ray but we are waiting for the results of that still...My theory is that his dandelion root treatment weakened the cancer cells sufficiently to reduce tumor growth, and made it possible for the chemotherapy to kill off the cancer cells effectively. Unfortunately his oncologist moved to a different hospital and I doubt they wrote anything about his dandelion root treatment in the journal. So the new oncologist probably only attribute the success to the chemo...Anyho, my opinion of chemo did change from my fathers success story, but I am pretty convinced neither dandelion root nor chemotherapy alone would have been sufficient!

[Serpo]

Artemisinin


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GQj1DD2Ovyc/T7zCYdlg9fI/AAAAAAAAAWY/SqvywnT0Q9E/s1600/Artemisinin-Paclitaxel.jpg



THE USE FOR CANCER

So far, the most extensive study on the use of Artemisinin as an anti-cancer agent was carried out by bioengineering scientists Drs Narenda Singh and Henry Lai of the University of Washington. This study was reported in the Journal Life Science (70 (2001): 49-56).

Iron is required for cell division, and it is well known that many cancer cell types selectively accumulate iron for this purpose. Most cancers have large number of iron attracting transferring receptors on their cell surface compared to normal cells. In laboratory studies of radiation, resistant breast cancer cells that has high propensity for accumulating iron revealed that artemisinin has 75 percent cancer cell killing properties in a 8 hours and almost 100 percent killing properties within 24 hours when these cancer cells are "pre-loaded" with iron after incubation with holotransferrin. On the other hand, the normal cells remained virtually unharmed. Another study showing the effectiveness of artesunate in treatment of cancer was also published in Oncology (April 2001: 18(4): 767-73). The fact that iron content of cancer cells is high has also been used in another anti-cancer therapy called Zoetron therapy, where iron containing cancer cells are induced into motion using a magnetic device to induce resonance. Resonance generate heat. Cancer cells are more sensitive to heat compared to normal healthy cells. When cancer cells are heated to a certain temperature, they die while normal cells still survive.
Artemisinin is effective against a wide variety of cancers as shown in a series of successful experiments. The most effective is leukemia and colon cancer. Intermediate activities were also shown against melanoma, breast, ovarian, prostate, CNS and renal cancer. Although artemisinin is insoluble in water, it is able to cross the blood brain barrier (the water soluble artesunate is the weakness among the derivates) and may be particularly suitable for curing brain tumors, together with Poly-MVA (an metalo-vitamin)

In laboratory studies, iron needs to be added to enhance the effects of artemisinin. Within the human body, no such addition is necessary, as iron already exist in the body. It can also be taken orally and therefore high doses are not required. Some people believe that as nitrogen (tertiary amine) is absent in ART, cancer cells cannot get rid of it once it enters into the cancer cell. As a result, ART stays in the cell much longer.


http://www.drlam.com/articles/Artemisinin.asp?page=2

[chad]

i know a few good people thats still walking around because they had it done

i know multiple people who had it 20+ years ago and they are healthy as can be. giant conspiracy i guess.

[Serpo]

i know multiple people who had it 20+ years ago and they are healthy as can be. giant conspiracy i guess.


And many more are dead,

it is a giant conspiracy Chad, just think about it for a second, this is the best treatment thats been here for decades with a poor success rate.

All other treatments have been banished.

In fact I would be willing to bet anyone everything I have that this is another scam from big pharm .

The people that have died from this are not walking around , only the ones that lived through this can speak...............

[StreetsOfGold]

i know multiple people who had it 20+ years ago and they are healthy as can be. giant conspiracy i guess.

What these survivors of chemotherapy are is a testament to how incredibly endurant the human body can be.
In spite of the massacring of cells, the body can sometimes still survive.
Those who survive most likely took a long time to recover.

Psalms 139:14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.

[hoarder]

From the cases I've seen, chemo is about 50% effective, extremely expensive and has many side-effects. If I had cancer, I would not take chemo.

[Glass]

The people that have died from this are not walking around , only the ones that lived through this can speak...............

Thats right, you will never hear any complaints about chemo from the customers.

I would rather ask people why the projections for the number of cancer suffers going forward is now 100% for men. Thats what they are saying now. 2 years ago it was 1 in 2 men and 1 in 3 women would get cancer in their lives. Now they are saying everyone will get cancer.

Better be careful. If you don't get cancer naturally they may have to lock you up as a terrorist or something.

[Dogman]

Chemo, is poison, period!

Still hold that the game is the chemo will kill the cancer just a wee tad quicker than healthy cells.


Last resort, by by if you do not , but also by by if you do. Just depends on how strong and the timing of the treatment. I have known a bunch of people some were close friends that went several ways. Refused to do and tried some mumjo crap and died. Or refused and died. Or did it and was strong enough, , almost killed them but lived.

Then there were the dammed, that reached and grabbed, but their bodys were too dam weak that gave the good fight, but did not live.

I do know everyone that went the alternative only treatment that had aggressive cancer, are pushing flowers and feeding worms now. Or at least would be if they were not full of embalming crap. Which my will states no embalming , let me return to the earth as I was born.

[palani]

let me return to the earth as I was born.

I would rather go quietly in my sleep like my grandfather. Not like the passengers in his car.... screaming in horror.

[milehi]

I was diagnosed with cancer when I was 28. I had surgery and was supposed to do radiation and chemo. I walked out after noticing the chemo patients looked like they had been kicked down a flight of stairs. I figured I'd die the good ol fashioned way by wasting away. My neighbor was an herbalist and steered me to a alkaline diet. I've only been sick once since. That was 14 years ago. I rarely miss my daily lemon, ACV and honey cocktail.

[Dogman]

I would rather go quietly in my sleep like my grandfather. Not like the passengers in his car.... screaming in horror.
No embalming, no steel casket, plane wood if even that, let things rot and return to the earth.

[singular_me]

I am kinda fortunate to know enough about many topics... wished I knew more though

Alkalize This! | Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/events/544760515586088/‎

Alkalize Or Die: Superior Health Through Proper Alkaline-acid Balance
(no free e-book available)

my favs
Alkaline Water According to Dr. Mercola - Health Articles
Dr. Mercola Talks About Alkaline Water (Part 1 of 2) - YouTube


alkalize search
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=&oq=a%3Bkalize+this&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4AURU_enUS528US577&q=a%3Bkalize+this&gs_l=hp...0l5.0.0.0.3177...........0.2kcsZ7Ad4kc#q =alkalize+this&start=10









I was diagnosed with cancer when I was 28. I had surgery and was supposed to do radiation and chemo. I walked out after noticing the chemo patients looked like they had been kicked down a flight of stairs. I figured I'd die the good ol fashioned way by wasting away. My neighbor was an herbalist and steered me to a alkaline diet'. I've only been sick once since. That was 14 years ago. I rarely miss my daily lemon, ACV and honey cocktail.

[Dogman]

I am kinda fortunate to know enough about many topics... wished I knew more though

Alkalize This! | Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/events/544760515586088/‎

Alkalize Or Die: Superior Health Through Proper Alkaline-acid Balance
(no free e-book available)

my favs
Alkaline Water According to Dr. Mercola - Health Articles
Dr. Mercola Talks About Alkaline Water (Part 1 of 2) - YouTube


alkalize search
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=&oq=a%3Bkalize+this&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4AURU_enUS528US577&q=a%3Bkalize+this&gs_l=hp...0l5.0.0.0.3177...........0.2kcsZ7Ad4kc#q =alkalize+this&start=10 Most if not all crap lady!

Said with respect!

[singular_me]

Most if not all crap lady!

Said with respect!

so do you mean that keeping the body cells alkalized is a lie, deception?

My friend has read the book "alkalize this or die" and told me in length about it.... and I am not sure if I can't agree with your conclusion

however, am listening, plz cite at least 2 counter-arguments and I will look into them. Promise

[Cebu_4_2]

so do you mean that keeping the body cells alkalized is a lie, deception?

My friend has read the book "alkalize this or die" and told me in length about it.... and I can't agree with your conclusion

Singular you are right on this one. 100%

[Dogman]

so do you mean that keeping the body cells alkalized is a lie, deception?

My friend has read the book "alkalize this or die" and told me in length about it.... and I am not sure if I can't agree with your conclusion

however, am listening, plz cite at least 2 counter-arguments and I will look into them. Promise


Singular you are right on this one. 100%

No, I have been references life and the life's of people I have known,

I bide by my right of being at my age, and experience which is is unique, as all of us are, it makes us individuals.

I need not to prove a dam thing, other than what I have witnessed in life.

The ones that I question, are the ones that cut / copy and paste, crap that has been proven to not work.

The majority that have walked if they could that did "alternative" treatments "cures" die. Do not get me into about vaccinines, they that avoid , for them, good for you, they that do it to their kids, may you be dammed forever, if a trigger brings it home to you.

I hang around for the hope that some very good people that have stayed , but the majority have left may come back to grow this forum into what it could be..And not what the 1-10% want it to be.

singular, have a huge crop of dandelions in my yard, in the next day or so will harvist them, and dry most.

Sorry

Went over board, but stand by what I have posted..

I do not hide, unlike some, because I have no need to hide.. Google KI5NM

and you will learn something about me, but light years from the real me.


I do not fear unlike some, bring it on.

I post for the real. not for the want to be.

[singular_me]

GOSH! while searching about cancer cures, I ran across this... another layer of deception.

However to me, it never made sense to get a root canal unless there is a recurrent dire infection because I know that a tooth without its nerve is dead and then starts to brittle over time... but the story is bigger than this, keep reading...

a root canal is very expensive additionally: 1,000-1,500 bucks

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Why You Should Avoid Root Canals Like the Plague
Many people have had questions about root canals, so I thought it would be wise to repost this article.
It was an interview with Dr. George Meinig, who was dentist and leader in teaching people about the dangers of root canals. He wrote the book Root Canal Cover Up.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/16/why-you-should-avoid-root-canals-like-the-plague.aspx

COVER UP
Bacteria trapped inside the structure of teeth migrate throughout the body. They may infect any organ, gland, or tissue and can damage the heart, kidneys, joints, eyes, brain, and endanger pregnant women. Learn how these infections were discovered by Weston A. Price, DDS in a 25 year Root Canal Research Program which was carried out under the auspices of the American Dental Association, and were subsequently covered-up.

AMAZON.COM COMMENT: For anyone suffering from chronic/degenerative disease, this reading is a must. Writen by George E. Meinig, D.D.S., F.A.C.D., one of the founding members who started the American Association of Endontists (Root Canal Therapists), the 25 years of root canal research by Dr. Weston Price is finally made public. Thorough coverage of this valuable research, as well as the reasons for its cover-up are made known. Dr. Meinig explains how bacterial infections and the toxins they emit travel from the dentin in the root filled tooth to other parts of the body, causing systemic focal infections. These infections may also originate from gum infections, infected tonsils or tonsil tags, and tooth pocket infections resulting from extractions. Many body organs and systems have been associated with focal infection from root canal bacteria. Many case histories are presented. Some of the ones covered are heart and circulatory, bladder, kidneys, ovaries, testicles, and arthritis. The book is written for the lay person to read with a minimum of technical jargon. Many photographs are also included.

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More than 25 million root canals are performed every year in this country. 97% of Terminal Cancer Patients Previously had this One Dental Procedure
Root-canaled teeth are essentially “dead” teeth that can become silent incubators for highly toxic anaerobic bacteria that can, under certain conditions, make their way into your bloodstream to cause a number of serious medical conditions—many not appearing until decades later.
http://consciousnewsmedia.blogspot.com/2013/11/97-of-terminal-cancer-patients.html

[Dogman]

It is a hoot, but you all have fun,

Cancer of all shapes and and origins can ether kill you or ...in time they will kill you.

Hidden?

Great go search for the cure, that has been 'repressed' and come back to me and talk to me, in ten years or very less, I will provide a phone number to that they try.

My phone will be safe. It will never ring..

tired of this thread, have fun,

OUT!


The god's forbid, remain hidden..

KI5NM!

LMFAO !

[zap]

Quote from Singular _me

COVER UP (so this causes cancer?)
Bacteria trapped inside the structure of teeth migrate throughout the body. They may infect any organ, gland, or tissue and can damage the heart, kidneys, joints, eyes, brain, and endanger pregnant women. Learn how these infections were discovered by Weston A. Price, DDS in a 25 year Root Canal Research Program which was carried out under the auspices of the American Dental Association, and were subsequently covered-up.


I can't agree with this, my grandmother and 2 aunts all had false teeth and all 3 died from various types of cancer.

[singular_me]

Hey Zap, I assume that root canals may just be another compouding effect... but I posted this to show HOW far the system goes to make us deadly sick

[Dogman]

Quote from Singular _me

COVER UP (so this causes cancer?)
Bacteria trapped inside the structure of teeth migrate throughout the body. They may infect any organ, gland, or tissue and can damage the heart, kidneys, joints, eyes, brain, and endanger pregnant women. Learn how these infections were discovered by Weston A. Price, DDS in a 25 year Root Canal Research Program which was carried out under the auspices of the American Dental Association, and were subsequently covered-up.

I can't agree with this, my grandmother and 2 aunts all had false teeth and all 3 died from various types of cancer.

Hold this space


Will fill in later

Major night night crash and shutdowd


Night all

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Forum Runner

[Shami-Amourae]

I was diagnosed with cancer when I was 28. I had surgery and was supposed to do radiation and chemo. I walked out after noticing the chemo patients looked like they had been kicked down a flight of stairs. I figured I'd die the good ol fashioned way by wasting away. My neighbor was an herbalist and steered me to a alkaline diet. I've only been sick once since. That was 14 years ago. I rarely miss my daily lemon, ACV and honey cocktail.

I take ACV with every meal. Is that sufficient for this "alkaline diet" thing? I don't know much about that.

I take ACV since it has kept my GERD/Acid Reflux under control.

[Neuro]

As with anything, you need to do your homework. For some cancers chemotherapy is an effective treatment, for others it isn't... Some cancers you are better off if you don't know you have them even, like prostate cancer, if you just leave it alone you are likely to die with it not of it. In some cases the chemotherapy may only give you a moderate extension of life at the expense of your quality of life, not to mention the expense to your family. Listen to the oncologist, but not too much...

[Neuro]

I would rather go quietly in my sleep like my grandfather. Not like the passengers in his car.... screaming in horror.
I'd rather eat myself than see my children starve!

[singular_me]

I'd not agree with the number 98% of chemo rate failure I have seen at the beginning of this thread but what I posted myself: 50%. Why? because everybody knows a success story to tell about chemo, and that is why the cancer Inc still prospers. It is in the interest of big pharma to kill us at a slow but steady pace whatsoever.

However you speak as if cancer is a common fact of life. Giving chemo credit when the system is clearly designed to optimize diseases of all kinds, should never make big pharma look good in any fashion. Big pharma treatments shouldnt be never encouraged because it helps perpétuâte their crimes. That is how they get us: problem, reaction, solution....

If I ever had cancer, Id try first several alternative treatments and if nothing works, Id go to India and be treated by an Ayurvedic physician because money does not corrupt the practice there. Ayurveda is a 5,000-year-old system of natural healing that has its origins in the Vedic culture of India.... why? because Ayurveda addresses all planes of human condition, body, mind, and spirit.

Ayurveda has been suppressed for centuries by the West but now enjoying a major resurgence throughout the world. Tibetan medicine and Traditional Chinese Medicine both have their roots in Ayurveda. Early Greek medicine also embraced many concepts originally described in the classical ayurvedic medical texts dating back thousands of years.

Another ancient science resurfacing... while Ayurveda has been taught in close circles, takes 20 years or so to master it, it is a tradition that Ayurvedic doctors work by donations only. Of course the instoppable resurgence has now its detractors. LOL.


if interested
Ayurveda - Art of Being - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-H6xEPsNvw


Ooops, in San Fransciso, Vedika Global, the group sponsor, also offers a by-donation ayurvedic clinic with one-on-one appointments.


As with anything, you need to do your homework. For some cancers chemotherapy is an effective treatment, for others it isn't... Some cancers you are better off if you don't know you have them even, like prostate cancer, if you just leave it alone you are likely to die with it not of it. In some cases the chemotherapy may only give you a moderate extension of life at the expense of your quality of life, not to mention the expense to your family. Listen to the oncologist, but not too much...

[palani]

so do you mean that keeping the body cells alkalized is a lie, deception?

An acid has no free electrons. They are all bound up in atoms. Any stray electrons that might wander in are snatched up as well. An alkaline has plenty of free electrons.

Alkalinity and health has more to do with available free electrons. Acids produce positive voltages and alkalines produce negative voltage. A cell voltage of -15 mv is normal and alkaline. A cell voltage of +15 mv is abnormal and acid. A cell that is damaged and needing repair might go to -50 mv.

The north pole of a magnet forms alkaline while the south pole forms acid. North pole magnets heal. Earthing provides a good source of electrons. Go barefoot. Hug a tree. Run a ground wire to your bed and use a conductive sheet (not advisable during lightning storms ... excess electrons might turn fatal).

[Neuro]

I'd not agree with the number 98% of chemo rate failure I have seen at the beginning of this thread but what I posted myself: 50%. Why? because everybody knows a success story to tell about chemo, and that is why the cancer Inc still prospers. It is in the interest of big pharma to kill us at a slow but steady pace whatsoever.

However you speak as if cancer is a common fact of life. Giving chemo credit when the system is clearly designed to optimize diseases of all kinds, should never make big pharma look good in any fashion. Big pharma treatments shouldnt be never encouraged because it helps perpétuâte their crimes. That is how they get us: problem, reaction, solution....

If I ever had cancer, Id try first several alternative treatments and if nothing works, Id go to India and be treated by an Ayurvedic physician because money does not corrupt the practice there. Ayurveda is a 5,000-year-old system of natural healing that has its origins in the Vedic culture of India.... why? because Ayurveda addresses all planes of human condition, body, mind, and spirit.

Ayurveda has been suppressed for centuries by the West but now enjoying a major resurgence throughout the world. Tibetan medicine and Traditional Chinese Medicine both have their roots in Ayurveda. Early Greek medicine also embraced many concepts originally described in the classical ayurvedic medical texts dating back thousands of years.

Another ancient science resurfacing... while Ayurveda has been taught in close circles, takes 20 years or so to master it, it is a tradition that Ayurvedic doctors work by donations only. Of course the instoppable resurgence has now its detractors. LOL.


if interested
Ayurveda - Art of Being - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-H6xEPsNvw


Ooops, in San Fransciso, Vedika Global, the group sponsor, also offers a by-donation ayurvedic clinic with one-on-one appointments.
Cancer is a common fact of life, sure if we made better choices to begin with it wouldn't, but we don't on average... The thing is most cancers takes many years to develop, and once it has been established changing lifestyle or using herbal is probably not enough to stop the runaway process. A hard hit with chemotherapy may work. Do I agree with cancer inc, and do I want to support them in their profiteering? Hell no! However, they do have monopoly on these cell poisons, that in some cases at least offer an extension. In my dads case he didn't have to pay anything out of his pocket for his oncological treatment, since the National Health Service covers it in Sweden. Sure the tax payers are fleeced instead, and the main reason why we have these incredibly expensive treatments to begin with is because of third party payment systems, it doesn't matter if it is socialist or capitalist/fascist systems... Another reason is the granting of monopolies by the state via pharmaceutical patents, and licensure of physicians.

I also want to point out the decisions people make re their treatments are complex. If someone who is the main breadwinner in a family can get a 5 year extension to see his/her children grow up to become responsible self sustainable adults, that could be worth a lot to that person, and he/she would swallow a lot of pride and principles to see that happening.

[milehi]

I test my ph every day. Today its a little high at. Pushing eight. It could be from the watermelon-lemon-ginger drink I juiced becore going to bed.

[Libertytree]

From a personal standpoint I wouldn't go the chemo route, even if I could afford it or even if it was free. I'd go with some other means, which there are many it seems and some are better and cheaper than others. Bluntly, I'm just not worth spending that much money on. Even if I was moderately well off I wouldn't expend all of my $ and maybe even drag my family into debt just to funnel those $ into big pharma. I'd take my chances with alternative cures and try and die with as little pain and in the most peaceful way possible.

[Shami-Amourae]

As with anything, you need to do your homework. For some cancers chemotherapy is an effective treatment, for others it isn't... Some cancers you are better off if you don't know you have them even, like prostate cancer, if you just leave it alone you are likely to die with it not of it. In some cases the chemotherapy may only give you a moderate extension of life at the expense of your quality of life, not to mention the expense to your family. Listen to the oncologist, but not too much...

Chemotherapy is NEVER effective. If you're about to die from cancer the only way to really save yourself (that I know of) is the Gerson Therapy.

Allopathy IS NOT MEDICINE. It is purposely poisoning the victim (patient) in a way not to kill them, but keeping them coming back for more "treatment".

It's like like a heroine dealer. They are giving them something that will eventually kill them. If they try to get off they will feel horrible and may even die from trying to quit. The only way off is to ease yourself off the drug. The same thing goes with allopathic "medicine". It look me a year to successfully ween myself off that shit. I tried cold turkey once and felt like I was going to die. It's designed to get you locked in and dependent. It's a scam!

[Neuro]

Chemotherapy is NEVER effective. If you're about to die from cancer the only way to really save yourself (that I know of) is the Gerson Therapy.

Allopathy IS NOT MEDICINE. It is purposely poisoning the victim (patient) in a way not to kill them, but keeping them coming back for more "treatment".

It's like like a heroine dealer. They are giving them something that will eventually kill them. If they try to get off they will feel horrible and may even die from trying to quit. The only way off is to ease yourself off the drug. The same thing goes with allopathic "medicine". It look me a year to successfully ween myself off that shit. I tried cold turkey once and felt like I was going to die. It's designed to get you locked in and dependent. It's a scam!
Read post #15 in this thread. I am pretty convinced my dad would have been dead by now, without chemotherapy, instead he is coming over to my house tomorrow and will help rebuild my garage to a room for billiard and table tennis. I am sure there are many treatments that are effective that are overlooked by allopathy, and/or even prohibited due to the undue influence from the pharmaceutical industry, and quite possibly my dads cancer was caused by many years of treatment of his blood cholesterol, but really to say that chemotherapy is never effective, is as silly as to say that Gerson therapy is the only thing for cancer. Where would you go if you have an abdominal gun shot wound?

[Shami-Amourae]

Read post #15 in this thread. I am pretty convinced my dad would have been dead by now, without chemotherapy, instead he is coming over to my house tomorrow and will help rebuild my garage to a room for billiard and table tennis. I am sure there are many treatments that are effective that are overlooked by allopathy, and/or even prohibited due to the undue influence from the pharmaceutical industry, and quite possibly my dads cancer was caused by many years of treatment of his blood cholesterol, but really to say that chemotherapy is never effective, is as silly as to say that Gerson therapy is the only thing for cancer. Where would you go if you have an abdominal gun shot wound?

For mechanical injuries (like gunshot wounds, broken legs, and so on) "modern medicine" is perfectly fine and the best solution. I've never heard a naturopath challenge that. It's something basically everyone agrees on.

I know Gerson Therapy isn't the ONLY solution, but it's the best I currently know of when you're "beyond hope".

I don't know all the details about your dad, but if it's true then he is an extremely rare case.

[Neuro]

For mechanical injuries (like gunshot wounds, broken legs, and so on) "modern medicine" is perfectly fine and the best solution. I've never heard a naturopath challenge that. It's something basically everyone agrees on.

I know Gerson Therapy isn't the ONLY solution, but it's the best I currently know of when you're "beyond hope".

I don't know all the details about your dad, but if it's true then he is an extremely rare case.
Well it only takes one "extremely rare case" to contradict your NEVER. Do yourself a service and stop looking at the world in absolutes, black and white, good and evil. I have no reason to lie about what happened to my dad. Actually I was very close to your view point, prior to his recovery, but I give credit where it is due. I really can't say which one was most effective in helping my dad recover from a certain early death, the dandelion roots or the chemotherapy, but my best guess would be that the two worked together. One of the main drawbacks of allopathic medicine is that it only accepts as evidence for efficiency treatments that have been evaluated in medical journals controlled directly or indirectly by pharmaceutical industry...

[Shami-Amourae]

Well it only takes one "extremely rare case" to contradict your NEVER.

You're right. I'm sorry.

[Serpo]

Despite its reputation as the gold-standard cancer treatment, chemotherapy has an average 5-year survival success rate of just over 2 percent for all cancers, according to a study published in the journal (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/12/02/chemotherapy-can-do-more-harm-than-good.aspx)Clinical Oncology in December 2004 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15630849?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVDocSum).




(http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/12/02/chemotherapy-can-do-more-harm-than-good.aspx)


The Best Known “Chemotherapy” Agent Ever Found

The American Cancer Society estimates that this year alone, 745,000 men and 692,000 women will be diagnosed with cancer. By 2018, this disease is projected to be the number one killer of all Americans, young and old alike.

The way to turn this around is two-fold:
1. Prevent cancer from occurring (I’ll get to that below)
2. Have a treatment for cancer that is effective and safe


This latter requirement is actually already here, and you can use it to not only prevent cancer but also to treat it.

What is it?

Vitamin D.

Calcitriol, the most potent steroid hormone in your body, and is produced in large amounts in the tissues of vitamin D-filled individuals. However, in patients with cancer, vitamin D is often in low supply.

Calcitriol has been shown to induce cell differentiation and to control cell proliferation -- in simpler terms it protects against cancer. People with a low vitamin D level are less able to make calcitriol (activated vitamin D) in an amount sufficient to exert the controls over cell proliferation that are needed to reduce cancer.

Optimized vitamin D levels will work synergistically with virtually every other cancer treatment. There are over 830 peer reviewed scientific studies showing its effectiveness in the treatment of cancer (http://mercola.fileburst.com/PDF/703-highly_cited_vitamin_D_cancer%5B3%5D.pdf).

Not only is this approach without virtually any side effects, but the treatment is practically free.

I believe it is nearly criminal malpractice to not optimize vitamin D levels when treating someone with cancer. Levels of vitamin D should be increased to 80-90 ng/ml.

To find out your levels, and to have them monitored throughout your treatment (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2002/02/23/vitamin-d-deficiency-part-one.aspx), make sure to have the blood test done by LabCorp, if you are in the United States.

The Essential Steps to Preventing Cancer

Normalizing your vitamin D levels will reduce your risk of cancer by over 50 percent (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/08/24/lack-of-sunshine-causes-600-000-cancers-a-year.aspx), but there are a number of other strategies that are also important in your cancer-prevention plan.



http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/12/02/chemotherapy-can-do-more-harm-than-good.aspx






I interviewed Dr. Burzynski about his cancer treatment (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/05/21/drs-stanislaw-and-gregory-burzynski-on-cancer.aspx) and also reviewed his recently released documentary, Burzynski, The Movie (http://www.burzynskimovie.com/). It's an absolute jaw-dropper, as not only did the U.S. federal government spend 14 years actively suppressing a cancer treatment that had a FAR greater success rate than any other treatment available, they also spent well over $60 million of U.S. taxpayer dollars trying to put Dr. Burzynski in jail in order to steal his patents and either suppress or cash in on his discovery.




http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/06/10/dr-mercola-on-ric-schiff.aspx





(http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/06/10/dr-mercola-on-ric-schiff.aspx)Chemotherapy Can Boost Cancer Growth, Study Finds

A related news story again highlights the need to revise how we treat cancer and how we view cancer prevention. Chemotherapy is a staple of the cut, poison, burn (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/09/19/cut-poison-burn.aspx) paradigm that is conventional cancer treatment, despite the evidence against it. According to research published in the journal Nature Medicine,5 (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/10/24/tumors-exploit-gut-flora.aspx?e_cid=20121024_DNL_art_1#_edn5) chemotherapy can damage healthy cells in such a way that they begin secreting a protein (WNT16B) that not only protects cancer cells and promotes their survival, but can also cause the tumors to be resistant to further chemotherapy treatment.

http://drpinna.com/dr-mercola-on-chemotherapy-33374


(http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/06/10/dr-mercola-on-ric-schiff.aspx)Environmental and lifestyle factors are increasingly being pinpointed as the primary culprits fueling our cancer epidemic. This includes:



Pesticide and other chemical exposures (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/07/10/no-one-is-safe-from-chemical-overload.aspx)
Processed and artificial foods (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/05/11/rats-on-junk-food-pass-cancer-down-the-generations.aspx) (plus the chemicals in the packaging (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/10/11/what-the-chemical-industry-doesn-t-want-you-to-know-about-everyday-products.aspx))
Wireless technologies (http://emf.mercola.com/sites/emf/archive/2010/05/27/what-is-the-real-cancer-threat-from-cell-phones.aspx), dirty electricity (http://emf.mercola.com/sites/emf/archive/2010/08/31/how-dirty-electricity-causes-diseases.aspx), and medical diagnostic radiation exposure (http://emf.mercola.com/sites/emf/archive/2010/09/25/high-ct-scan-radiation-is-deadly.aspx)


Pharmaceutical drugs (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/09/24/osteoporosis-drugs-linked-to-cancer-risk.aspx)
Obesity, stress (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/02/04/stress-linked-to-cancer.aspx), and poor sleeping habits (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/10/22/cancer-sleep.aspx)
Lack of sunshine exposure (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/08/24/lack-of-sunshine-causes-600-000-cancers-a-year.aspx) and use of sunscreens (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/07/01/four-out-of-five-sunscreens-may-be-hazardous-to-your-health.aspx)




This is clearly not an exhaustive list as such a list would be exceedingly long. For more specifics on consumer products implicated as contributors to cancer, please review the Cancer Prevention Coalition’s “Dirty Dozen” list.7 (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/10/24/tumors-exploit-gut-flora.aspx?e_cid=20121024_DNL_art_1#_edn7)

(http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/06/10/dr-mercola-on-ric-schiff.aspx)

[Glass]

there is a capaign here in Australia against vitamin D. People are told not to risk going out in the sun in search of Vitamin D. they are also told that they should use a high intensity sun block and that is usually coupled with something to say vitamin D is not needed. And they say that vitamin D supplements are useless and not needed.

I think we are pushing 50+ SPF on sunblocks now. I wonder why they say this?

that report talks about chemo being given to terminally ill patients and says it basically kills them. why would you give it to them if they are terminal? are we supposing they are not terminally ill? Or is it given because it's the patient wants it and is in denial of pending death? If they are terminal I would expect those kind of statistics wouldn't you?

ok so there is a link to an abstract from a study. Not sure I grasp what it means.

[singular_me]

an horror story

my mother died of lung cancer, yes she smoked all her life, but she accepted to go through chemo. At first sight it was a success but the cancer came back 3 years later and shen was advised to remove 70% of her lungs. As she wasnt ready to die, she got the surgery but started suffering from lack of oxygen and couldnt do much anymore, she was always tired and unaware that her heart was getting overwhelmed due to the lack of oxygen, the heart had to beat 3 times as much to keep her alive. More and more she stayed at home sleeping up to 12H/day. Two years had passed since the sugery and sadly her cancer came back. She knew she was hopless at this stage.

a victim of cancer inc among many others

ps: right after the surgery she went through radiations

of course, many would say that it is her fault since she used to smoking.... but I know a young women, non smoker, 25, who has an ovarian cancer and will most likely get an hysterectomy in the 3 months head. She has been through chemo at least 3 times.

[palani]

there is a capaign here in Australia against vitamin D. People are told not to risk going out in the sun in search of Vitamin D. they are also told that they should use a high intensity sun block and that is usually coupled with something to say vitamin D is not needed. And they say that vitamin D supplements are useless and not needed.

Any of light skin who want a bit of protection would do well to consider taking hyssop every once in a while. For some reason or other this herb does a good job of protecting the skin from burning.