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Ares
4th April 2014, 07:04 PM
On the heels of Russia's potential "holy grail" gas deal with China, the news of a Russia-Iran oil "barter" deal, it appears the US is starting to get very concerned about its almighty Petrodollar

*U.S. HAS WARNED RUSSIA, IRAN AGAINST POSSIBLE OIL BARTER DEAL
*U.S. SAYS ANY SUCH DEAL WOULD TRIGGER SANCTIONS
*U.S. HAS CONVEYED CONCERNS TO IRANIAN GOVT THROUGH ALL CHANNELS

We suspect these sanctions would have more teeth than some travel bans, but, as we noted previously, it is just as likely to be another epic geopolitical debacle resulting from what was originally intended to be a demonstration of strength and instead is rapidly turning out into a terminal confirmation of weakness.

As we explained earlier in the week,

Russia seems perfectly happy to telegraph that it is just as willing to use barter (and "heaven forbid" gold) and shortly other "regional" currencies, as it is to use the US Dollar, hardly the intended outcome of the western blocakde, which appears to have just backfired and further impacted the untouchable status of the Petrodollar.



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"If Washington can't stop this deal, it could serve as a signal to other countries that the United States won't risk major diplomatic disputes at the expense of the sanctions regime,"

And here is Voice of Russia, "Russia prepares to attack the Petrodollar":

The US dollar's position as the base currency for global energy trading gives the US a number of unfair advantages. It seems that Moscow is ready to take those advantages away.



The existence of “petrodollars” is one of the pillars of America's economic might because it creates a significant external demand for American currency, allowing the US to accumulate enormous debts without defaulting. If a Japanese buyer want to buy a barrel of Saudi oil, he has to pay in dollars even if no American oil company ever touches the said barrel. Dollar has held a dominant position in global trading for such a long time that even Gazprom's natural gas contracts for Europe are priced and paid for in US dollars. Until recently, a significant part of EU-China trade had been priced in dollars.



Lately, China has led the BRICS efforts to dislodge the dollar from its position as the main global currency, but the “sanctions war” between Washington and Moscow gave an impetus to the long-awaited scheme to launch the petroruble and switch all Russian energy exports away from the US currency .



The main supporters of this plan are Sergey Glaziev, the economic aide of the Russian President and Igor Sechin, the CEO of Rosneft, the biggest Russian oil company and a close ally of Vladimir Putin. Both have been very vocal in their quest to replace the dollar with the Russian ruble. Now, several top Russian officials are pushing the plan forward.



First, it was the Minister of Economy, Alexei Ulyukaev who told Russia 24 news channel that the Russian energy companies must should ditch the dollar. “ They must be braver in signing contracts in rubles and the currencies of partner-countries, ” he said.



Then, on March 2, Andrei Kostin, the CEO of state-owned VTB bank, told the press that Gazprom, Rosneft and Rosoboronexport, state company specialized in weapon exports, can start trading in rubles. “ I've spoken to Gazprom, to Rosneft and Rosoboronexport management and they don't mind switching their exports to rubles. They only need a mechanism to do that ”, Kostin told the attendees of the annual Russian Bank Association meeting.



Judging by the statement made at the same meeting by Valentina Matviyenko, the speaker of Russia's upper house of parliament, it is safe to assume that no resources will be spared to create such a mechanism. “ Some ‘hot headed' decision-makers have already forgotten that the global economic crisis of 2008 - which is still taking its toll on the world - started with a collapse of certain credit institutions in the US, Great Britain and other countries. This is why we believe that any hostile financial actions are a double-edged sword and even the slightest error will send the boomerang back to the aborigines,” she said.



It seems that Moscow has decided who will be in charge of the “boomerang”. Igor Sechin, the CEO of Rosneft, has been nominated to chair the board of directors of Saint-Petersburg Commodity Exchange, a specialized commodity exchange. In October 2013, speaking at the World Energy Congress in Korea, Sechin called for a "global mechanism to trade natural gas" and went on suggesting that " it was advisable to create an international exchange for the participating countries, where transactions could be registered with the use of regional currencies ". Now, one of the most influential leaders of the global energy trading community has the perfect instrument to make this plan a reality. A Russian commodity exchange where reference prices for Russian oil and natural gas will be set in rubles instead of dollars will be a strong blow to the petrodollar.



Rosneft has recently signed a series of big contracts for oil exports to China and is close to signing a “jumbo deal” with Indian companies. In both deals, there are no US dollars involved. Reuters reports, that Russia is close to entering a goods-for-oil swap transaction with Iran that will give Rosneft around 500,000 barrels of Iranian oil per day to sell in the global market. The White House and the russophobes in the Senate are livid and are trying to block the transaction because it opens up some very serious and nasty scenarios for the petrodollar. If Sechin decides to sell this Iranian oil for rubles, through a Russian exchange, such move will boost the chances of the “petroruble” and will hurt the petrodollar.



It can be said that the US sanctions have opened a Pandora's box of troubles for the American currency. The Russian retaliation will surely be unpleasant for Washington, but what happens if other oil producers and consumers decide to follow the example set by Russia? During the last month, China opened two centers to process yuan-denominated trade flows, one in London and one in Frankfurt. Are the Chinese preparing a similar move against the greenback? We'll soon find out.

Finally, those curious what may happen next, only not to Iran but to Russia, are encouraged to read "From Petrodollar To Petrogold: The US Is Now Trying To Cut Off Iran's Access To Gold."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-04/us-threatens-russia-sanctions-over-petrodollar-busting-deal

Ponce
4th April 2014, 08:02 PM
The US has already been pushed back by Russian and did nothing........the eagle is loosing its wings and cannot long fly...........if the US decides to declare a new war many around the world will unite as one to fight it. Even from inside of the US itself.

V

Cebu_4_2
4th April 2014, 08:23 PM
This is the final push in the west, the west is fukt. It is in the plan, no mistake about it. What the west will receive no one knows yet. Putin is against what is killing the west, I doubt he is an ally but he is at least challenging the retarded west.

Spectrism
4th April 2014, 09:32 PM
Picture all the world leaders as demon-possessed, soul-less shells. The demons are playing a game of monopoly and risk roled into one. They are using the real bodies of people to move material around and position themselves for world domination. They don't mind killing off millions of humans but want to gain the most power in this friendly competition.

7th trump
4th April 2014, 09:52 PM
Picture all the world leaders as demon-possessed, soul-less shells. The demons are playing a game of monopoly and risk roled into one. They are using the real bodies of people to move material around and position themselves for world domination. They don't mind killing off millions of humans but want to gain the most power in this friendly competition.

What drugs are you on?
Demons!!!
No such thing as demons.
That's a man made myth.


Ephesians 6:12 - For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].

God made all creation including lucifer who was a high angel before he fell.....God did not create demons and satan (lucifer) is a creation of Gods so he cant create anything out of thin air.

Keep watching that boob tube.

mick silver
5th April 2014, 07:01 AM
this has been there plan all alone , now they are setting it into motion

Neuro
5th April 2014, 07:26 AM
The US has already been pushed back by Russian and did nothing........the eagle is loosing its wings and cannot long fly...........if the US decides to declare a new war many around the world will unite as one to fight it. Even from inside of the US itself.

V
Exactly. Three major geo-political losses for US last years. Georgia (2008), Syria (2013), Ukraine (2014) vs Russia. The US didn't dare put its foot down re these issues, the posturing now how Russia decides to circumvent USD in selling its oil and gas is ridiculous, they could bully Russia around in the 90's, now the price for overextending US military is to be paid, in loss of respect, and petrodollar value...

Spectrism
5th April 2014, 07:34 AM
What drugs are you on?
Demons!!!
No such thing as demons.
That's a man made myth.

God made all creation including lucifer who was a high angel before he fell.....God did not create demons and satan (lucifer) is a creation of Gods so he cant create anything out of thin air.

Keep watching that boob tube.

I guess you have issues with the bible. It doesn't surprise me as you like to make up stuff as you go along.

Donald Dump says there are no demons. Let's see if there are any bible references.

Mat 4:24 And the report of Him went out into all Syria. And they brought to Him all the ones being badly ill, suffering various diseases and torments, also those being demon-possessed, and those being moonstruck, and paralytics; and He healed them.

Mat 8:28 And He coming to the other side, into the country of the Gergesenes, two demon-possessed ones met Him, coming out of the tombs, very violent, so that no one was able to pass through that way.
Mat 8:29 And, behold! They cried out, saying, What is to us and to You, Jesus, Son of God? Have You come here beforetime to torment us?
Mat 8:30 And far off from them there was a herd of many pigs feeding.
Mat 8:31 And the demons begged Him, saying, If You cast us out, allow us to go away into the herd of pigs.

Mat 9:32 And as they were going out, behold, they brought to Him a dumb man having been possessed by a demon.
Mat 9:33 And the demon being cast out, the dumb one spoke. And the crowds marveled, saying, Never was it seen this way in Israel.

Mat 12:22 Then one having been demon-possessed was brought to Him, blind and dumb. And He healed him, so that the blind and dumb one could both speak and see.
Mat 12:23 And all the crowds were amazed, and said, Is this not the Son of David?
Mat 12:24 But hearing, the Pharisees said, This One does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub, ruler of the demons.

G1139
δαιμονίζομαι
daimonizomai
dahee-mon-id'-zom-ahee
Middle voice from G1142; to be exercised by a daemon: - have a (be vexed with, be possessed with) devil (-s).




Deu 32:16 With strange gods they moved Him to jealousy; and with idols they provoked Him to anger.
Deu 32:17 They sacrificed to demons who were not God, to gods whom they did not know, new ones who came lately. Your fathers had not dreaded them.
H7700
שׁד
shêd
shade
From H7736; a daemon (as malignant): - devil.

Hatha Sunahara
5th April 2014, 11:16 AM
Do I detect a cheering section for Russia? Or is it just a 'booing' section for the US? My guess is that it's the latter. How many of us here are 'cheering' for the Russians because we would like to see the US fall flat on its ass? But we all love America because its the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. Are we all having a love/hate relationship with the USA?

Somehow we see a connection between our own lives and what the US government is doing to other countries. Most of us haven't been able to articulate this connection in coherent terms, but it is there, and undeniable. I'm going to take a stab at articulating that connection because the US posturing about Russia and China (about the Petrodollar) are an excellent example to illustrate that connection between our own lives and the behavior of the US government.

Most of us are aware that there is a 'shadow government' that rules our lives, and that the open government we see is increasingly appearing to be a sham. That shadow government has usurped our perogatives of self-government. It has also enslaved us with massive collective debt. It has taken away our civil liberties, and is threatening to kill us with it's increasingly menacing police state which monitors our every move. It is a no brainer to conclude that people who recognize this are looking for signs of weakening so that this trend toward opprssion will be arrested and reversed.

To make a long story short, the reason we have a shadow government is because the US has become an Empire. No empire can exist with the kinds of limitations put on its power by the US Constitution. So, we have developed an Imperial Extra Constitutional Government. The constitutional government is the one we see every day in the news, and we see how impotent it has become. This is the government of the people, and it no longer does anything for us.

There exists side-by-side with this constitutional government and 'extra-constitutional' government that serves the interests of empire. It is not governed by any laws--not even the laws of nature. It does whatever it wants to do. It uses the constitutionsl government and the resources of the people however it pleases. It destabilizes foreign governments that it deems inimical to its interests. The media does not explain its interests to the people. The media does not even acknowledge that this shadow government exists. But you see it every day eroding the power of the visible government and pretending that it is doing what it does legally and lawfully. But it is a sham. And we can all see it, but we have trouble articulating it because we get no confirmation from the media, and because not everybody sees it. Most of us here at GSUS see it. Our sympathies are not with Russia, but against this monster that rules us.

I developed this view from reading an essay at Bill Moyers web site about the deep state, here:

http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/21/anatomy-of-the-deep-state/ (http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/21/anatomy-of-the-deep-state/)


This is a long piece, and the author doesn't talk about empire--maybe out of an imperative for political correctness, but it is obvious that empire is what drives this deep state.


Hatha

Spectrism
5th April 2014, 11:29 AM
Komrade... America is dead. We live on the land of Amerika.

old steel
5th April 2014, 11:38 AM
Lots of relatives still down in the US and can't really tell any difference between Americans and myself except for the accent but i hate the US government and i hate the fed, wall street etc.

If push comes to shove in America i will head south with everything i can carry and fight right alongside my bros down there.

Horn
5th April 2014, 12:13 PM
*U.S. HAS WARNED RUSSIA, IRAN AGAINST POSSIBLE OIL BARTER DEAL

Hardly petro-dollar busting.

Its all a puppet shown to keep China guessing.

Putin is compliant to Zion's march and has been for a dogs age, he steps precisely in tune to its whims of an alter coveting force.

Horn
5th April 2014, 12:25 PM
Hatha should consider writing a book, he's that good.

and don't fall in line with the status quo when receiving praise, Hatha.

as most often happens with brilliant writers, when they receive praise... :)