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Spectrism
6th April 2014, 06:43 PM
Sometimes we do things that may not be so smart. We all have a tendency to trust that things will remain as they are and not change. Even with warnings, we often find it hard to imagine something really is imminent. I got a good warning today and I will proceed prepping for my other warnings.

I was walking with the dog on my back hill. Beautiful day with blue skies and light breeze... a blessing after a couple days of soaking rain.

I heard a noise like a rock hitting a tree. I thought maybe it was a meteor that had come down and bounced off a tree, but I didn't see anything. And, it was close. The noise sounded like it was within 100 feet of where I was. Why a meteor? Did you all see the video of the skydiver?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/04/05/close_call_video_of_a_skydiver_almost_hit_by_meteo roid.html

Well... I was thinking (wishing & hoping) a reasonably sized meteor would visit my path, but not too closely and not too large. So when I heard that pop- like the snap of a baseball bat that squarely hit the ball for a homerun, I was looking for a hot rock on the ground.

Yesterday I was just looking at the trees in this area bemoaning to myself how they block too much sunlight from a little garden patch I have on that side. Cutting them down could be tricky since the garage is under a few of them. And they are large- not something I want to tackle myself with some potential risk. The leans on some of these trees is just too much.

To digress further, years ago I had a lumbering team come in to cut out a few trees. I watched as one fellow cut a tree that had a pretty heavy lean. The tree was a 30 inch diamter oak that had to be 150 feet tall. As he hit about half way through, it began to lean more. Usually with oaks a small hinge will hold them if not leaning much. This one had so much force in the lean that something very unusual happened.

As I stood about 30 feet away and the cutter stepped back about 5 feet from his cut which was about 3 feet off the ground, an explosion of wood shards erupted out of the trunk from about 8 feet up. The shards shot right by the cutter and the tree fell like WTC7 on its leaning path. That taught me about surprises from trees.

So, back to my walk and search: nothing like a hot rock was seen on the ground so I looked up in the trees. I walked down by the garage and had that funny feeling as I paused to look up at a big leaner over my head. I studied its path and again thought about how it would be nice to have it and a couple others out of the way.

I walked a little further toward the garage and heard that crack again. This time I KNEW what it was. I have heard many a tree crack as some of its final fibers gave loose during the cutting process. But there were no outward signs- no cuts, breaks, bleeds from ant debris. I studied its path again and figure I better move a car and an aluminum break. As I walked to the house to get the key and elicit some help to move the tool, I heard the cresciendo of breaks/ snaps happening like an avalanche. I looked back to see a huge limb falling from 60 feet up.

The limb was 10 inches in diameter and fell next to the garage, doing no damage. It felll where I had just walked 30 seconds before. Why now?

I felt the limb. It was clean and no real decay. But it was very wet. It had soaked up much water from the rains and now the weight of this leaner was too much to hold at the split point of the tree. Breaking so high let the limb fall close to the trunk. It was a perfect fall, but now leaves a weakened limb on the backside that will fall with a good wind... I hope.

Timing. Listen to instincts and don't hesitate. Prep now what you can. Things are about to crash in some interesting ways. Be in the right place and the crash won't hurt you.

Ponce
6th April 2014, 07:34 PM
Five years ago we had a heavy snow storm and my car port looked kind of heavy to me, went to get a shovel and went back to the car port...I was about five feet from it when the whole thing came down on both of my cars..... $800.00 to fix my RAV-4 and $400.00 for the little truck....so...this time I build my own car port, and with reinforcement..............and you know what? no real snow in three years and none what so ever this year.

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Spectrism
6th April 2014, 07:41 PM
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Here is the tree with the limb on the ground. It makes about enough firewood for two weeks. Got to be about 2000 pounds.


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Here is a wide view. That limb was even on the skyline with the other trees up top. The limb is 10 inches in diameter but broke off the trunk where it is about 12 inches.

Glass
6th April 2014, 07:50 PM
so the upside is, nature gave you warning - thank you nature, you are alert for signs - thank goodness, nature didn't want you to have to cart the firewood too far so it dropped it near the garage for you - very considerate. I'd say its a win in a weird way.

Does the limb show any signs of rot at the break?

Dogman
6th April 2014, 07:54 PM
Join the brotherhood, and kudos you survived.. Not always trees, steel tanks (boilers) huge ones up to 30' in dia rolling free, flat bed trucks backing blind. etc.etc. and yes maybe 2 trees spread over 20 years. (none on the highway, work or home related.)

Glad you are still sucking air, and maybe a lesson learned.. It is always nice to do a near meet the maker, some that do are more forgiving, and their eyes are more open to life, and others.

A closed mind is a good thing to waste, an open mind is priceless!

Glad you were not hurt or badly anyway.

Spectrism
6th April 2014, 07:54 PM
so the upside is, nature gave you warning - thank you nature, you are alert for signs - thank goodness, nature didn't want you to have to cart the firewood too far so it dropped it near the garage for you - very considerate. I'd say its a win in a weird way.

Does the limb show any signs of rot at the break?

You are right. It was very fortunate but could have been devastating.

The limb was in perfect shape. No deterioration... no rot... nothing. Close inspection showed about a dozen "snap" points where I could see fiber bunches that had snapped. Each pop was one of these bunches giving loose.

And the thought of carrying the firewood- this is right next to the place I planned for next year's wood pile.

Spectrism
6th April 2014, 07:57 PM
Join the brotherhood, and kudos you survived.. Not always trees, steel tanks (boilers) huge ones up to 30' in dia rolling free, flat bed trucks backing blind. etc.etc. and yes maybe 2 trees spread over 20 years. (none on the highway, work or home0

Glad you are still sucking air, and maybe a lesson learned..


You bring up a good point. On my job I visit mechanical rooms and walk through steam tunnels for big universities and pharmas. I ALWAYS think about what happens if a steam pipe bursts, a valve breaks loose or a boiler gives out. And I think about earthquakes and floods in these places. As well... in the cities along the coast.

Listen for odd noises and be ready to respond. Walk away for a while if you think you should.

Horn
6th April 2014, 08:13 PM
Yesterday I was just looking at the trees in this area bemoaning to myself how they block too much sunlight from a little garden patch I have on that side. Cutting them down could be tricky

You always were a voodoo child, Spectro.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20OKWyPFFO4

Dogman
6th April 2014, 08:13 PM
You bring up a good point. On my job I visit mechanical rooms and walk through steam tunnels for big universities and pharmas. I ALWAYS think about what happens if a steam pipe bursts, a valve breaks loose or a boiler gives out. And I think about earthquakes and floods in these places. As well... in the cities along the coast.

Listen for odd noises and be ready to respond. Walk away for a while if you think you should. Some of my big steel, non structual , was making pressure vessels (asme code) and a tad of pipe lining (api code) and playing around as a ship fitter. In my welding/fitting days.

What you described as what you fear, If the pipes and the boilers/pressure vessels were truly built to code, for the real place it will work. If internally coated say at my time epoxy, now have not a clue. but if carbon steel, it just depends, s/steel , (expensive) Tho there are steam pipes in new york city that are very heavily aged, tho the wall thickness of the vessels and pipes come into play, plus out side environments and care given.

A good rip roaring earthquake, in the states, ?

But I think when a really really good one hits, best you not be in the area, or if you are bend over and kiss your ass good by. If near steam, or any big vessel under pressure. Tho steam will school you how a lobster/crab may feel.

Sorry mind is wandering on what if's and could bees.

Again glad you made it, bet you have more gusto for life now.
!

Spectrism
6th April 2014, 09:09 PM
You always were a voodoo child, Spectro.


You have no idea. I have been confronted by some... usually they are dealt with remotely and I don't have to watch. Usually things are handled by presentation of choices & consequences. I have been closely guarded. It actually makes me feel guilty at times that I had more cover than others, but I know my time is coming. And if I can delay the small events, a nice big one with usefulness would be preferred.

I wish for all who read to have the best cover if they will have it.

Dogman
6th April 2014, 09:27 PM
Timing Humm?


I am getting a craving that has not been satisfied in dam near 30 years.. Tho I have been collecting camping gear and other things thinking of other things, but


FISHING!

Flash bulb and silent crap..

Soon , I will have pulled everything, to rebuild my fishing kit (brit way of saying) and all it good.

But what my tooth is set for ? Is

Blue Crab!

Know there are other crabs out there, but I am talking of one I love to eat and what is easy to haul in here.

Huge mess, boiled, crab boil, or not...add a tad of butter, taters/bannock/fried bread.. Eat my weight in them. Camp on the beach.


Now for the op post spectrum, which is better?

Live, and enjoy or do what you have done over the years?

Think with in the next month I will be moving, and when I do, I may visit many states , all within one month..

That is living..

Hitch
6th April 2014, 11:46 PM
Timing is important, but also location too. I don't live in the city anymore.

Glad you are OK Spec. God calls us when it's our time. I can relate to this thread, a couple of years ago I was almost crushed as well. Not by a tree limb, by a prostitute. Actually the car the prostitute tried to steal.

I was walking to my car that day, and as I walked passed a parked car, out of nowhere another car plows right into the front of it. Right where I just passed, a few seconds ago. I was maybe 2 feet from the impact of the crash. So close. I would have been crushed between the two cars. I turned around, and will never forget what I saw. There was nobody in the driver's seat. In the passenger seat, a young woman was screaming and wailing and flailing her arms. She jumped out of the car and ran away, screaming the whole time. I just stood there in shock. A neighbor ran up and asked if I was OK, and I just said yes, I was fine and wtf just happened. Other folks ran up and one said they called the cops. I didn't stick around after that. I found out later the young gal was a prostitute who tried to steal the car from the man who picked her up.

I don't live in the city anymore.

Cebu_4_2
7th April 2014, 04:22 AM
Do you ground yourself? IE walk bare foot? Something is very close man and you need to damper that quick. Could be anything but with a sign like this it is of utmost importance right now. Don't wonder about it take action soon as you figure out what is out of balance man.

Spectrism
7th April 2014, 05:36 AM
Do you ground yourself? IE walk bare foot? Something is very close man and you need to damper that quick. Could be anything but with a sign like this it is of utmost importance right now. Don't wonder about it take action soon as you figure out what is out of balance man.


Out of balance? Not much. Out of balance with the world? Let me review some little things.

1. Manufacturing jobs went overseas and our stock market is rigged- all fake.
2. Our government is run by foreigners and is devilishly corrupt.
3. We have been engaged in foreign wars unjustly.
4. Our food, water & air are contaminated & polluted.
5. The fake FRN / US dollar is about to become Zimbabwe dollars.
6. Our government controllers are pushing us toward world war as we become weaker.
7. Darkness is getting thicker on this world: evil & corruption oozing like fog over the waters.

But aside from those few little things... not too much else.

Glass
7th April 2014, 06:26 AM
Do you ground yourself? IE walk bare foot? Something is very close man and you need to damper that quick. Could be anything but with a sign like this it is of utmost importance right now. Don't wonder about it take action soon as you figure out what is out of balance man.

Its weird but I believe in this a lot now, Maybe for 2 years. Walking on the bare ground in bare feet. matching current with the earth beneath my feet. I like to sit in chair on the grass with bare feet. Sometimes I just stand for a while, maybe 20 mins. Breath in deeply. It's weird because the inflow of air keeps building to the point where I'm struggling to take it all in.... the air that is. There's some kind of Chi there.

I watched a tv series with 2 survival guys. Posted about them way back and I can't remember the show. Dual survival or something? One of the guys always went barefoot. Snow, jagged rocks. The other guy didn't get it. I didn't but I do now.

EE_
7th April 2014, 06:44 AM
Its weird but I believe in this a lot now, Maybe for 2 years. Walking on the bare ground in bare feet. matching current with the earth beneath my feet. I like to sit in chair on the grass with bare feet. Sometimes I just stand for a while, maybe 20 mins. Breath in deeply. It's weird because the inflow of air keeps building to the point where I'm struggling to take it all in.... the air that is. There's some kind of Chi there.

I watched a tv series with 2 survival guys. Posted about them way back and I can't remember the show. Dual survival or something? One of the guys always went barefoot. Snow, jagged rocks. The other guy didn't get it. I didn't but I do now.

Dual survival is with Cody Lundin and Joe Teti. Cody runs an outdoor survival, primitive living skills camp in AZ.
I used to watch the show, then it started to get a little gay with those two fighting like a couple of lesbians. But they always made up when it was time to spoon-cuddle together during a cold night in a makeshift lean-to.
I tried the barefoot thing walking in the desert on occation.

Oh, that branch that fell is called a widow-maker. I'm always on the lookout for these as I walk in the forest. They crash for no reason.

Glass
7th April 2014, 07:13 AM
I watched it when it had Dave in it. haven't seen this other guy.

Cebu_4_2
7th April 2014, 08:00 AM
I'm concerned about you not the world. The world we can't control but in yourself you can. I want things to change but can't make that happen unless a bunch of others think the same... Back to you, grounding and decent food bro.


Out of balance? Not much. Out of balance with the world? Let me review some little things.

1. Manufacturing jobs went overseas and our stock market is rigged- all fake.
2. Our government is run by foreigners and is devilishly corrupt.
3. We have been engaged in foreign wars unjustly.
4. Our food, water & air are contaminated & polluted.
5. The fake FRN / US dollar is about to become Zimbabwe dollars.
6. Our government controllers are pushing us toward world war as we become weaker.
7. Darkness is getting thicker on this world: evil & corruption oozing like fog over the waters.

But aside from those few little things... not too much else.

Spectrism
7th April 2014, 12:47 PM
I'm concerned about you not the world. The world we can't control but in yourself you can. I want things to change but can't make that happen unless a bunch of others think the same... Back to you, grounding and decent food bro.

Thanks for your concern.... but I am a bit curious. How does grounding and food choices have to do with a tree breaking? It would have happened even if I wasn't stupid enough to walk under it. Oh... is that what you are getting at? I am eating too much stupid food? Maybe. As for grounding, it has been a pretty rough winter and going barefoot on the ice and snow is not much fun.

Rubicon
7th April 2014, 01:38 PM
Wild Bill Hickok is trying to warn the recently widowed Alma to get out of town to avoid her husband's fate. He urges her to "listen to the thunder".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmYdYti-obg

Libertytree
7th April 2014, 01:57 PM
Glad you made unscathed! Might be a good time to throw a buck or two at the lottery?

Serpo
7th April 2014, 03:42 PM
Its weird but I believe in this a lot now, Maybe for 2 years. Walking on the bare ground in bare feet. matching current with the earth beneath my feet. I like to sit in chair on the grass with bare feet. Sometimes I just stand for a while, maybe 20 mins. Breath in deeply. It's weird because the inflow of air keeps building to the point where I'm struggling to take it all in.... the air that is. There's some kind of Chi there.

I watched a tv series with 2 survival guys. Posted about them way back and I can't remember the show. Dual survival or something? One of the guys always went barefoot. Snow, jagged rocks. The other guy didn't get it. I didn't but I do now.


get an earthing mat glass and sleep earthed