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Cebu_4_2
9th April 2014, 09:01 PM
ATF rules ’7N6′ ammo is armor piercing, non importable 4/08/14 (http://www.guns.com/2014/04/08/atf-deems-7n6-armor-piercing-non-importable/) | by Daniel Terrill (http://www.guns.com/author/daniel/)
http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/7N6-diagram-251x300.jpg (http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/7N6-diagram.jpg)A breakdown of a 7N6 5.45×39 cartridge.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives announced Monday that it has deemed Russian surplus 7N6 5.45×39 type ammo “armor piercing,” so it cannot be imported into the United States.
“When ATF tested the 7N6 samples provided by (the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency), they were found to contain a steel core,” the federal agency said in a news release (http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2014/04/040714-special-advisory-test-examination-and-classification-7n6-545x39-ammunition.html), adding, “Accordingly, the ammunition is “armor piercing” under the section 921(a)(17)(B)(i) and is therefore not importable.”
Up until now, hobbyists commonly shot 7N6 rounds from rifles like the AK-74 (http://www.guns.com/reviews/russianussr-military-ak-74/), but CBP wanted to know if there was a handgun chambered in that caliber as well, which would possibly redefine the cartridge as “armor piercing”.
The ATF learned that a commercially available handgun called the Fabryka Broni Radom, Model Onyks 89S, could fire 7N6 rounds.
For the ruling, the ATF cites the amendment in the Gun Control Act of 1988 that defines armor piercing ammo as:

(i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or
(ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.
Since the ATF only tested 7N6, its determination only applies to that specific ammo. Other 5.45×39 cartridges — without a steel core — would have to be independently examined to determine their importability, according to the statement.
The response comes a week after a U.S. congressman made an official inquiry (http://www.guns.com/2014/04/05/congressman-makes-official-inquiry-atf-ban-7n6-ammo/) to the ATF about a possible ban on 7N6. Arizona Rep. Matt Salmon asked for confirmation that the ATF is examining 7N6, why and under what authority.
Salmon argued that banning 7N6, an inexpensive variant of 5.45×39, would place an unnecessary burden on law abiding citizens wanting to exercise their Second Amendment rights.
“I am troubled that such a reliable, cost-effective, and popular choice, such as the “7N6 offering of the 5.45×39 cartridge would be banned for import by the BATFE after years of trouble-free import and use,” Salmon wrote in his letter (http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Matt-Salmon-letter-to-ATF.pdf). “Furthermore, I am concerned that decisions such as these pertaining to a popular choice of ammunition that Americans have chosen to purchase and use are being made as a matter of bureaucratic policy.”
Before the ATF confirmed the examination, the National Rifle Association and other gun advocates were already rallying support to fight the ban on 7N6.

milehi
9th April 2014, 09:15 PM
ATF rules ’7N6′ ammo is armor piercing, non importable 4/08/14 (http://www.guns.com/2014/04/08/atf-deems-7n6-armor-piercing-non-importable/) | by Daniel Terrill (http://www.guns.com/author/daniel/)
http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/7N6-diagram-251x300.jpg (http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/7N6-diagram.jpg)A breakdown of a 7N6 5.45×39 cartridge.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives announced Monday that it has deemed Russian surplus 7N6 5.45×39 type ammo “armor piercing,” so it cannot be imported into the United States.
“When ATF tested the 7N6 samples provided by (the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency), they were found to contain a steel core,” the federal agency said in a news release (http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2014/04/040714-special-advisory-test-examination-and-classification-7n6-545x39-ammunition.html), adding, “Accordingly, the ammunition is “armor piercing” under the section 921(a)(17)(B)(i) and is therefore not importable.”
Up until now, hobbyists commonly shot 7N6 rounds from rifles like the AK-74 (http://www.guns.com/reviews/russianussr-military-ak-74/), but CBP wanted to know if there was a handgun chambered in that caliber as well, which would possibly redefine the cartridge as “armor piercing”.
The ATF learned that a commercially available handgun called the Fabryka Broni Radom, Model Onyks 89S, could fire 7N6 rounds.
For the ruling, the ATF cites the amendment in the Gun Control Act of 1988 that defines armor piercing ammo as:

(i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or
(ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.
Since the ATF only tested 7N6, its determination only applies to that specific ammo. Other 5.45×39 cartridges — without a steel core — would have to be independently examined to determine their importability, according to the statement.
The response comes a week after a U.S. congressman made an official inquiry (http://www.guns.com/2014/04/05/congressman-makes-official-inquiry-atf-ban-7n6-ammo/) to the ATF about a possible ban on 7N6. Arizona Rep. Matt Salmon asked for confirmation that the ATF is examining 7N6, why and under what authority.
Salmon argued that banning 7N6, an inexpensive variant of 5.45×39, would place an unnecessary burden on law abiding citizens wanting to exercise their Second Amendment rights.
“I am troubled that such a reliable, cost-effective, and popular choice, such as the “7N6 offering of the 5.45×39 cartridge would be banned for import by the BATFE after years of trouble-free import and use,” Salmon wrote in his letter (http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Matt-Salmon-letter-to-ATF.pdf). “Furthermore, I am concerned that decisions such as these pertaining to a popular choice of ammunition that Americans have chosen to purchase and use are being made as a matter of bureaucratic policy.”
Before the ATF confirmed the examination, the National Rifle Association and other gun advocates were already rallying support to fight the ban on 7N6.

I think that round is a red c hair larger than .22

Glass
9th April 2014, 11:41 PM
so how does that work? because someone made a hand gun that can fire the round, that makes it armour piercing? I don't get it. Does this mean that any ammo that can be fired from a pistol is subject. It is strange wording. Maybe it needs to be seen in context.

wiki says

As body armor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_armor) saw increasing use in militaries, the original 5N7 standard service cartridge bullet construction was changed several times to improve penetration. This resulted in the 7N6, 7N10, 7N22 and 7N24 cartridge 5.45×39mm variants.

The 7N6 bullet has a 1.43 g (22.1 gr) steel rod penetrator. Since 1987 this penetrator is hardened to 60 HRC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockwell_scale). The latter 7N6 cartridge can penetrate a 6 mm thick St3 steel plate at 300 m and 6Zh85T body armour at 80 m. 7N6 bullets have a red identification ring above the cartridge neck. The US Army's Ballistic Research Laboratory measured a ballistic coefficient (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_coefficient) (G7 BC) of 0.168 and form factor (G7 i) of 0.929 for the 7N6 projectile, which indicates good aerodynamic efficiency and external ballistic performance for the bullet diameter.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.45%C3%9739mm#cite_note-7)[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.45%C3%9739mm#cite_note-8) The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Alcohol,_Tobacco,_Firearms_and_Explosive s) classified the 7N6 cartridge as "armor piercing ammunition" on 7 April 2014, and, as such, it is illegal to manufacture or import in the United States

Glass
10th April 2014, 12:36 AM
The ATF web site seems to be off line. Looks like they are addressing the Heartleak problem at the moment. ok. Its back. Could have been a sub site.

Title 18, Crimes and Criminal Procedures S921, Page 203

(17)(A) The term ‘‘ammunition’’ means ammu
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nition or cartridge cases, primers, bullets, or
propellent powder designed for use in any fire -
arm.
(B) The term ‘‘armor piercing ammunition’’
means—
(i) a projectile or projectile core which may
be used in a handgun and which is constructed
entirely (excluding the presence of traces of
other substances) from one or a combination
of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze,
beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or
(ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22
caliber designed and intended for use in a
handgun and whose jacket has a weight of
more than 25 percent of the total weight of the
projectile.
(C) The term ‘‘armor piercing ammunition’’
does not include shotgun shot required by Fed
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eral or State environmental or game regulations
for hunting purposes, a frangible projectile de
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signed for target shooting, a projectile which
the Attorney General finds is primarily intended
to be used for sporting purposes, or any other
projectile or projectile core which the Attorney
General finds is intended to be used for indus
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trial purposes, including a charge used in an oil
and gas well perforating device.
(18) The term ‘‘Attorney General’’ means the

Attorney General of the United States

1



there is a notation there indicated by a numeral 1

1

So in original. Probably should be followed by a period

Do not know what that notation means. The rest of it reads as they quote it. I think the Act is dated 1968, not 1988. Actually it is not dated but cited as Gun Control Act (18 U.S.C. Chapter 44) - ATF have linked to the GPO document on this link (http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCODE-2011-title18/pdf/USCODE-2011-title18-partI-chap44.pdf)

Horn
10th April 2014, 12:41 AM
so how does that work? because someone made a hand gun that can fire the round, that makes it armour piercing? I don't get it. Does this mean that any ammo that can be fired from a pistol is subject. It is strange wording. Maybe it needs to be seen in context.

wiki says

6Zh85T body armour at 80 m.

The law is designed for when they bust your door at under 80m you can't get more than one shot off (without redirecting your torso) towards the dozen or more officers that will be pouring thru.