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palani
21st April 2014, 11:26 AM
Is it possible for the opening post to establish the truth of an entire thread?

If another thread is established by someone else does the truth change or does that thread operate under an entirely different set of laws?

For instance, if I invited you to dinner do you have a right to pick your nose and offend other guests or to choose your own seat either above or below the salt?

7th trump
21st April 2014, 02:36 PM
Is it possible for the opening post to establish the truth of an entire thread?

If another thread is established by someone else does the truth change or does that thread operate under an entirely different set of laws?

For instance, if I invited you to dinner do you have a right to pick your nose and offend other guests or to choose your own seat either above or below the salt?

Depends.....is the truth actually the truth?
Or is it an attempt to disguise a half truth or a lie...as the truth?

The truth always wins!

Dogman
21st April 2014, 02:46 PM
Depends.....is the truth actually the truth?
Or is it an attempt to disguise a half truth or a lie...as the truth?

The truth always wins!

There is the perception of truth, one man's truth maybe another man's lie!

So who is right?

The truth that the majority says it is, or the inverse? Most so called truths presented on this forum, are the minority's opinions. That the greater society would call a lie.

As for threads here, sticking to the "topic" would be a truly amazing thing, of maybe biblical proportions or dam near the same as an earthshaking concept.

Good luck in the contest palani, understand, but here me thinks it would never happen.

Thread train wrecks, or greater are the normal striven mode for most here.

palani
21st April 2014, 03:24 PM
Depends.....is the truth actually the truth?
Or is it an attempt to disguise a half truth or a lie...as the truth?

The truth always wins!

I am suggesting that what passes for the truth in this particular thread might not be considered to be the truth universally.

For example, say a thread dealing with the truth about Sandy Hook is established. Within that thread whatever truth is established by the OP remains until a rebuttal 'affadavit' in the form of another post (hopefully within the same topic). Or it might not even be a rebuttal but rather an expansion, material that had not been established before.

palani
21st April 2014, 03:26 PM
There is the perception of truth, one man's truth maybe another man's lie!



If you don't like the truths presented in a thread then just don't go there. It is only when you are there that you either agree with the truths presented or you disagree. If you agree you either don't say anything or you come out in agreement. If you disagree you present the points you disagree with and why.


So who is right? There need be no 'right' and no 'wrong'. Accept that whoever opened the thread is providing 'a' truth. It need not be the only truth.

Dogman
21st April 2014, 03:33 PM
If you don't like the truths presented in a thread then just don't go there. It is only when you are there that you either agree with the truths presented or you disagree. If you agree you either don't say anything or you come out in agreement. If you disagree you present the points you disagree with and why.

There need be no 'right' and no 'wrong'. Accept that whoever opened the thread is providing 'a' truth. It need not be the only truth.

Agreed!

osoab
21st April 2014, 03:39 PM
Is the truth a fact?

Dogman
21st April 2014, 03:41 PM
Is the truth a fact? Or can a fact be called a truth? Slippery slope.

Ponce
21st April 2014, 04:29 PM
No matter what........"When the truth comes into the light, the lies will hide in the dark"...Ponce

That's why I always carry a flashlight......in case it gets dark hahahahahahah.

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Dogman
21st April 2014, 04:56 PM
No matter what........"When the truth comes into the light, the lies will hide in the dark"...Ponce

That's why I always carry a flashlight......in case it gets dark hahahahahahah.

V

Hell amigo, we all know you are an enlighten person in this life.

palani
21st April 2014, 05:11 PM
Is the truth a fact?
The truth is (for the purposes of this thread) that a fact is an evil deed. At least that is according to etymology online



fact (n.)
1530s, "action," especially "evil deed," from Latin factum "event, occurrence,"

The current view of truth (accuracy) comes no earlier than 1560. Prior to that ... it meant faith and loyalty.


truth (n.)
Old English triewð (West Saxon), treowð (Mercian) "faith, faithfulness, fidelity, loyalty; veracity, quality of being true; pledge, covenant," from triewe, treowe "faithful" (see true (adj.)), with Proto-Germanic abstract noun suffix *-itho (see -th (2)).

Sense of "something that is true" is first recorded mid-14c. Meaning "accuracy, correctness" is from 1560s. English and most other IE languages do not have a primary verb for for "speak the truth," as a contrast to lie (v.).

Hatha Sunahara
22nd April 2014, 10:58 AM
Truth is whatever you believe it is. When someone presents an idea, if you beleve it, it's true. If you don't believe it, then it's not true. Most of us believe we live in a democracy, so we check to see how popular an idea is--how many other people believe it before we decide whether we want to believe it or not. If everybody else believes a lie, it must be true. I have formulated this view of the truth from simple observations which everyone can make themselves, and which reinforce belief. I could be like a lot of other people and believe what I'm told instead of my lying eyes. Fortunately, the deity has spared me from that hell. I have also invested time in learning the rules of logic which I try to apply before I commit to belief. I also understand that my beliefs, that is, the truth, can change--that it's mutable, so I do not cling to it like to a lifeboat in a frozen sea. However, some things are more absolute than others, but not very many. Most ideas are highly relative, and depend on their context.

I have learned a lot from the threads here at GSUS. I make no judgments of the posters, but I do judge their ideas and their ability to learn. I don't care if others disagree with me, but I do care for civility. Some people here think they are the 'keepers of truth', and look condescendingly on others who are not as convinced. Everyone here teaches me something.


Hatha

Ponce
22nd April 2014, 12:44 PM
Thank you Hatha, you are a good pupil hahhahahahahah.........it is hard to believe with those who disagree with what you believe in... for example, I believe that the Zionist are the bigger killers of humanity and no matter how much you try to convince me otherwise I will believe only what I believe in.

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