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EE_
25th April 2014, 03:30 PM
Putin calls internet a 'CIA project' renewing fears of web breakupRussian president's remark fans idea that has gained ground in Germany, Brazil and elsewhere after Edward Snowden's revelations

the guardian.com, Thursday 24 April 2014

Vladimir Putin at media forum in St Petersburg. The Russian president has long hinted that he wants a Russian-run alternative to the internet.

Vladimir Putin gave his clearest signal yet that he aims to break up the global nature of the internet when he branded the network a "CIA project" on Thursday.

The Russian president told a media conference in St Petersburg that America's overseas espionage agency had originally set up the internet and was continuing to develop it.

Putin has long hinted that he wants a Russian-run alternative. The idea of breaking up the internet has gained ground in Germany, Brazil and elsewhere round the world in the light of the revelations by whistleblower Edward Snowden about the extent to which the US National Security Agency has infiltrated Facebook, Skype and other social media.

Snowden's critics say that an unintended consequences of his revelations has been to undermine the global nature of the web as well as playing into the hands of dictators. His supporters counter that it is the NSA rather than Snowden that has damaged trust in the service.

During a recent national televised question and answer session, Putin batted away a question from Snowden – who won temporary asylum in Russia after having his US passport revoked – about whether Russia also intercepted and stored communications harvested from the internet, as the US did. "I hope we don't do that," he said to applause from the studio audience. "We don't have as much money as they do in the US."

Putin acknowledged that there was surveillance of criminals and potential terrorists but denied there was mass surveillance of citizens.

A purely Russian-run system could make it easier for the Russian intelligence services to monitor and control traffic. The Kremlin already has powerful tools in place for this, but nonetheless the internet offers a platform for Russian opposition groups denied a voice on the country's television and radio. At the same media conference, Putin also referred directly to the most popular search engine in Russia, Yandex – a reference that caused its shares to plummet.

Putin's St Petersburg comments could herald the most serious challenge yet to the world wide web, which was founded by the British computer scientist Sir Tim Berners-Lee.

Putin claimed the "CIA project" was still developing and that Russia needed to be protected from it. The nation had a duty to resist that influence and fight for its interests online, he said.

His remarks come in the wake of a law passed by the Russian parliament this week requiring foreign social media websites to keep their servers in Russia. The law also requires them to save all information about their users for at least six months.

Business executives close to Putin now control Russia's leading social network, VKontakte.

Putin, in referring to Yandex, criticised the company for its registration in the Netherlands, "not only for tax reasons but for other considerations too". He was responding to a questioner who complained that Yandex was storing information on servers abroad, potentially compromising Russian security.

Snowden has previously faced criticism from within America for accepting asylum in Russia but failing to speak out against the authoritarian nature of the regime. After addressing Putin last week, he was accused of putting a softball question to him.





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gunDriller
25th April 2014, 04:44 PM
Snowden has previously faced criticism from within America for accepting asylum in Russia but failing to speak out against the authoritarian nature of the regime. After addressing Putin last week, he was accused of putting a softball question to him.


well, when you're looking for asylum, sometimes you can't be picky.

the US forced the president of another country to land his jet because of their paranoia about Snowden.


given the way SnowSnow has been treated by the US, what do they expect him to do - start pointing out the many defects of his host ?

in recent history, Russia and the Soviet Union have conducted a more moral & humane foreign policy than the US. and they're not saints.


in general, i would like to see countries divorce the US. set up their own processor factories, so that they don't depend on Intel or AMD, etc. etc.

actually AMD's market cap is about $3 Billion, Russia could afford to buy it. Actually Iran could afford to buy AMD.

Horn
25th April 2014, 06:32 PM
Sounds like an excuse to bail out on his internet democracy plan.


Downloading DemocracyRussia, with its millions of regular internet users, has the means to overhaul its political system, right at its fingertips.
“Democracy should have mechanisms for direct and constant action… and efficient channels for dialogue, public oversight, communication and feedback,” Putin advises, offering examples as to how to use the available technology.
“It is important to create user-friendly, interactive interfaces for public authorities’ web portals, so that their plans and programs can be fully available, publicly discussed, and their implementation monitored,” he writes.
The top contender in next month’s presidential election says he will “ask web designers to assist the state” with implementing this proposal.
Putin then discusses how the internet can give voters direct participation in the democratic process, while also breaking down the mountain of red tape.
“I suggest introducing a rule for a mandatory review in Parliament of initiatives that collect one hundred thousand or more signatures on the internet,” Putin writes, citing a similar law in the UK. “Certainly the anonymous internet cannot serve this purpose, even though in a number of instances it helps reveal the mood of society… [Therefore] a procedure should be developed for the official registration of those who want to participate in this system”.


http://rt.com/politics/putin-article-democracy-evolution-549/

Santa
25th April 2014, 06:43 PM
If other countries their set up their own independent Internets...seems like it might at least slow down the One World Globalist agenda.

Cebu_4_2
25th April 2014, 07:27 PM
set up their own processor factories, so that they don't depend on Intel or AMD, etc. etc.

Intel is Israel...

old steel
25th April 2014, 09:15 PM
Well to be honest, just a few shades deeper than that, DARPA.


http://www.darpa.mil/default.aspx

Horn
25th April 2014, 10:06 PM
If other countries their set up their own independent Internets...seems like it might at least slow down the One World Globalist agenda.

I sometimes wonder if we didn't lose many posters from the U.K. already.

old steel
25th April 2014, 10:17 PM
If this shit keeps up and now with Putin suspending talks with Washington we could get more than just a few missing posters on the net.

Whoa some of this is seriously out there 8 miles high.

zap
25th April 2014, 10:33 PM
He didn't suspend it did he? He just won't answer the phone! BAMMA 's calling..... LOL F--- Him,

I have shit to do !

old steel
25th April 2014, 11:46 PM
I sure hope you're right zap.

gunDriller
26th April 2014, 08:29 AM
Intel is Israel...

unfortunately. "Nehalem" sounds Israeli to me but then i read it's a town in the US.

in any case, Israel is deeply involved with the most recent generations of Intel chips.


the US gov. certainly uses the Internet as a spying tool.

but Russia has (had ?) some good tech workers. i would expect them to find some ways to adapt the Internet to their own advantage.

PatColo
4th May 2014, 08:01 AM
Here’s Why Putin Called The Internet A ’CIA Project’
2014 05 01
By Michael Kelley | From : Business Insider

(http://www.businessinsider.in/Heres-Why-Putin-Called-The-Internet-A-CIA-Project/articleshow/34302856.cms)

On Thursday, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the Internet originally was a "CIA project" and "is still developing as such."

The comments sound paranoid, but they actually serve Putin’s aims well.

Today, Russia is leading the charge for breaking up the Internet as it currently functions by running Web traffic through servers in each respective country.

"In two years we may get a completely different Internet," Russian investigative journalist Andrei Soldatov told BI in January. "It might be a collection of Intranets instead of one Internet. Actually I think it’s very possible."

Earlier this week, Russia’s parliament passed a law requiring foreign Internet services such as Gmail and Skype to keep their servers in Russia and save all information about their users for at least half a year. This would create a Russian ’intranet’ that would be separate from the globally-interconnected Web, much like social media website VKontakte now serves as Russia’s Kremlin-allied Facebook outside of Facebook.

Russian law already dictates that Russia’s security services can monitor particular phone conversations or Internet communications after an FSB agent gets a warrant that he only has to show to superiors.

If all Internet traffic in a given country were routed through domestic servers, then communications including emails and Web searches would potentially be fair game to that country’s intelligence services.

"The key word here is pressure - whether it is aimed at journalists, activist groups, or global online platforms," Soldatov wrote in March. "Russia has already provided a cohesive, detailed and well thought out blueprint for turning the Internet into a collection of national intranets."

And because of the disclosures of Edward Snowden, Putin is starting to get his way.

"Like the Russian government, which is currently using the Snowden disclosures to justify bringing global online platforms and services under Russian jurisdiction, many countries are beginning to support the concept of national sovereignty in cyberspace," Soldatov wrote, noting changes in the stances of Brazil and Germany after disclosures from Snowden’s cache.

To resist the influence of the alleged CIA project that is the Internet, Putin added, Russia needs to "fight for its interests" online. Those interests include radically changing the Word Wide Web.

Source: businessinsider.in (http://www.businessinsider.in/Heres-Why-Putin-Called-The-Internet-A-CIA-Project/articleshow/34302856.cms)