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palani
28th April 2014, 11:20 AM
Just for funnzies ...


Part I section 3 IRS FORM W-8BEN ... there is a checkbox for UNION STATE CITIZENS on this IRS form. To determine your identification as a NON-RESIDENT ALIEN CLAIMING NON-U.S. PERSON STATUS. To be frank there are too many negatives for me in that section header. I keep trying to interpret that as RESIDENT ALIEN CLAIMING U.S. PERSON STATUS.


http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/Forms/IRS/IRSFormW8BENAmendeds.pdf

midnight rambler
28th April 2014, 12:25 PM
I had an entity trying to get me to fill out and sign one of those FORM W-8BEN and instead I filled out and signed one of the pre USA-PATRIOT ACT W-8 forms - the obvious distinction being the 'BEN' stuff being applicable to someone who's a 'beneficiary' (meaning someone who's not a principal, i.e. one who has a beneficial interest rather than ownership).

palani
28th April 2014, 12:59 PM
I had an entity trying to get me to fill out and sign one of those FORM W-8BEN

I suspect a rat. Doubt if that link goes to a real IRS form and probably is one that has been doctored. The concept of a UNION STATE CITIZEN would raise the specter of a CONFEDERATE STATE CITIZEN.

midnight rambler
28th April 2014, 01:12 PM
Something IS fishy with that as I just looked up the W-8BEN forms revised in '08, '12, and '14 - NONE of them have those check box options to be found anywhere on the form. Note the form at the link you posted has no revision date on it (found in upper left corner).

midnight rambler
28th April 2014, 01:22 PM
This one is as close as I could find to the one in the OP (note the fonts are different and there's no 'union state citizen') -

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CDsQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dubaimerc.com%2Fpdf%2FIRS_Tax _Forms%2FForm%2520W-8BEN.pdf&ei=tLdeU_KXAanz8AGznICACA&usg=AFQjCNFCAiDbB1U9lp6f2mdXvp0eTPU1cg&sig2=SCsJR7mzJIi4VTPVsKXNcQ&bvm=bv.65397613,d.b2U&cad=rja