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4th May 2014, 05:54 AM
SOMETHING HUGE JUST HAPPENED AND THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA IS IGNORING IT
Posted by Staff on April 07, 2014

You may be aware of Mark Levin's book "The Liberty Amendments" released last year which called for a "Convention of the States". Article 5 of the Constitution gives the several states the ability to convene a convention in which the Constitution may be amended, changed, or even scrapped.

Last week Michigan's legislature voted and passed a resolution calling for a Constitutional Convention.
They are the 34th state to do so, and this should trigger the Convention of the States.

Pretty major, yet the MSM is ignoring it.

Read on.

From TRN News:

The most important political development in 200 years was triggered last week, when the state legislature of Michigan became the 34 th state to demand a "Constitutional Convention" in the United States. Under Article 5 of the US Constitution, if 2/3rds of the states call for such a convention, (meaning 34 states) it MUST take place. During such a convention, the ENTIRE Constitution can be changed; nothing is off-limits. This would even allow the States to dismantle the federal government without its consent, and repudiate the debt which that government has incurred! When it voted for the convention last week, Michigan became the 34 th state, thus meeting the requirement.

A goal has been reached behind what would be an unprecedented effort to amend the U.S. Constitution, through a little-known provision that gives states rather than Congress the power to initiate changes. This is the most significant political development in the entire world in the last 200 years.

At issue is what's known as a "constitutional convention," a scenario tucked into Article V of the U.S. Constitution. At its core, Article V provides two ways for amendments to be proposed. The first – which has been used for all 27 amendment to date – requires two-thirds of both the House and Senate to approve a resolution, before sending it to the states for ratification. The Founding Fathers, though, devised an alternative way which says if two-thirds of state legislatures demand a meeting, Congress “shall call a convention for proposing amendments.”

The idea has gained popularity among constitutional scholars in recent years -- but got a big boost last week when Michigan lawmakers endorsed it.

Michigan matters, because by some counts it was the 34th state to do so. That makes two-thirds.

In the wake of the vote, California Republican Rep. Duncan Hunter pressed House Speaker John Boehner on today to determine whether the states just crossed the threshold for this kind of convention. Like Michigan lawmakers, Hunter's interest in the matter stems from a desire to push a balanced-budget amendment -- something that could be done at a constitutional convention.

“Based on several reports and opinions, Michigan is the 34th state to issue such a call and therefore presents the constitutionally-required number of states to begin the process of achieving a balanced budget amendment,” Hunter wrote.

“With the recent decision by Michigan lawmakers, it is important that the House – and those of us who support a balanced budget amendment -- determine whether the necessary number of states have acted and the appropriate role of Congress should this be the case."

If two-thirds of the states indeed have applied, the ball is presumably in Congress' court to call the convention.

But Article V is rather vague, and it's ultimately unclear whether 34 states have technically applied. In the past, states like Oregon, Utah and Arizona have quietly voted to approve the provision in their legislature.

But some of the 34 or so have rescinded their requests. Others have rescinded, and then re-applied.

Alabama rescinded its request in 1988 but in 2011, lawmakers again applied for a convention related to an amendment requiring that the federal budget be balanced. It was a similar story in Florida in 2010.

Louisiana rescinded in 1990 but lawmakers have tried several times, unsuccessfully, to reinstate the application since then.

It's unclear whether the applications still count in these scenarios.

Some constitutional scholars like Gregory Watson, an analyst in Texas, say once states ask, there may be no take-backs.

“There is a disagreement among scholars as to whether a state that has approved an application may later rescind that application,” Watson told The Washington Times. “If it is ultimately adjudicated that a state may not rescind a prior application, then Ohio’s 2013 application for a Balanced Budget Amendment convention would be the 33 rd and Michigan’s 2014 application would be the 34th on that topic.”

Others say if a state changes its mind, it can no longer be part of the 34.

Even if the requisite number of states have applied, questions remain about how such a convention would work -- and whether, as Michigan wants, such a convention could be limited to only discussing a balanced-budget amendment.

It still may be a long shot, but some analysts are warning about the unintended consequences of such a move.

In Louisiana, Budget Project Policy Analyst Steve Spire argued against the state's resolution, saying the convention could permanently damage the nation’s political system. What he calls "damage" others call improvement.

CHANGES THAT CAN BE MADE

Change from a federal form of national government, back to a confederacy, which was what existed prior to adoption of the Constitution in 1789. No, not the one that existed during the Civil War, the one that existed between the time we won the Revolutionary War and the time we adopted the US Constitution. What's that you say, you never knew the United States was a Confederacy before the Constitution? So much for public school education. In fact, the U.S. was a Confederacy and under that form of government, there is NO NATIONAL GOVERNMENT, just states that agree to do business with each other and to defend each other if attacked. How's that for simple?

If we make the mistake of keeping a federal government, we could dramatically curtail its powers. All elected officials could be term-limited. Judges could be term limited. The jurisdiction of the federal government could be for commerce only; no longer allowing it criminal prosecution powers, leaving that to the states alone.

All Treaties currently in force, could be scrapped. We could cancel our participation in NATO no longer having to assure the safety of Europe by shedding American blood to settle their squabbles. (World War I, World War II, Bosnia, Serbia, Kosovo etc.) Make Europe defend itself. We could scrap the Treaties with South Korea, Taiwan and Japan, making them defend themselves rather than pledging American blood to keep them safe. After all, for the fifty years or more that we have guaranteed the security of these countries, what have they done for us? Hint: Nothing.

We could scrap the Treaties with Russia concerning our nuclear arsenal, allowing us to re-arm to face the new challenges posed by China becoming a super-power, India, Pakistan and Israel becoming nuclear powers.

We could do away with the federal power to make war; delegating that power to a simple majority of the fifty state legislatures voting in concert.

We could do away with the Federal Reserve which creates money out of thin air, causing inflation to erode our savings and earnings, and start printing our own real money, backed by gold, silver, platinum etc. No more central Bankers to parasite off our hard work the way they do now.

We could do away with the Code of Federal Regulations and the Federal Register, both of which stifle American ingenuity through reams of government regulation.

We could put people ahead of animals and do away with rules that forbid development of land because some little creature lives on it.

We could do away with the Department of Education, which during its existence, has seen the education level of American children drop from #1 in the world to somewhere toward the bottom. This department is a complete and total failure and it should be wiped out of existence.

We could do away with the Department of Energy, which was created during the Carter Administration for the purpose of weening the United States off imported oil. Ask yourself this simple question: In the forty years it has been in existence, has the Department of Energy even come close to achieving what it was created to do? No. It is another total failure and it should be wiped out of existence.

We could become energy self-sufficient within a year, by allowing our own natural resources to be developed- then tell the Arabs to take their oil and shove it.

We could stop the hand-outs to the permanent welfare class, forcing them to get off their good-for-nothing lazy butts and get a job.

We could do away with the income tax!

We could restore the free market in EVERY industry; getting government out of the way so that entrepreneurs can create new and better products and services to improve all our lives.

This would be a new beginning for America; a new chance at vast prosperity, personal liberty and personal responsibility.


The last time there was a successful amendment was more than four decades ago – the 26th Amendment which changed the voting age to 18. States ratified the 27th Amendment on congressional pay increases, but it took more than 200 years to do it. With the Michigan vote, this time we can right so many wrongs, and finally get the government out of our lives.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=9

Neuro
4th May 2014, 09:13 AM
It has a snowballs chance in hell!

Hatha Sunahara
4th May 2014, 09:44 AM
The real news is that the mainstream media, the primary instrument of the status quo, is ignoring it. Just like they ignore the constitution itself. The only way this event can have a positive effect on the future of politics in America is if the idea takes off on the Internet. It will be interesting to see how the congress ignores this event. One positive thing we here at GSUS can do is to raise this issue on other forums we participate in. I am confident however that TPTB have contingency plans to deal with this if it gains traction among the people. They will likely try to 'lead the opposition' and run the issue into the ground, or take it over and use their position to further their own agenda, (like scrapping the Constitution altogether) ,once again leaving the people in the dust.



Hatha

gunDriller
4th May 2014, 09:50 AM
I am confident however that TPTB have contingency plans to deal with this if it gains traction among the people. They will likely try to 'lead the opposition' and run the issue into the ground, or take it over and use their position to further their own agenda, (like scrapping the Constitution altogether) ,once again leaving the people in the dust.

Hatha




they will make sure that Jews & Shabbas Goyim run as many of the 'break-away states' as possible.

palani
4th May 2014, 10:01 AM
The real news is that the mainstream media, the primary instrument of the status quo, is ignoring it.

Why wouldn't they ignore it? After all, it is not their system.

It is up to the ones who belong to the constitutional system to make things happen. Don't blame those who are not part of it for not doing anything.

Can the Boy Scouts call a convention of Brownies?

Hillbilly
4th May 2014, 12:41 PM
It very well could happen but I guarantee you that we will lose rights and freedom not gain any.

madfranks
4th May 2014, 02:03 PM
Michigan matters, because by some counts it was the 34th state to do so. That makes two-thirds.

What does this mean, "by some counts"? They don't actually know if they have 34 or not? I would assume it actually has to be 34, not maybe 34.

Uncle Salty
4th May 2014, 04:19 PM
Actually, I would think a Constitutional Convention would turn out badly.

I have no faith that tyranny wouldn't be the outcome.

Use the Amendment system to change the COTUS.

Bigjon
4th May 2014, 04:32 PM
How Jewish is Levin (strictly kosher in my book).

From Citizens Newswire (Kirk MacKenzie) Defend Rural America



In my opinion, Mark Levin is our modern day Alexander Hamilton. Hamilton maneuvered behind the scenes to call the Philadelphia Convention allegedly to amend the Articles of Confederation. It became clear on the first day the real intent was to overthrow the Confederation, violating its amendment clause, in favor of a new government structure defined by a new constitution. Hence, the Philadelphia Convention became a constitutional convention. I suspect the same would happen again.

Attached are things to consider. Thanks to Don H for forwarding this information.
From: publixxxxx@gmail.com (publiushuldah@gmail.com)
To: publiusxxxxxx@gmail.com (publiushuldah@gmail.com)
Sent: 4/15/2014 1:36:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: Beware of Mark Levin's Liberty Amendments!
In this paper, I show how six of Mark Levin’s proposed amendments actually legalize most of the powers the federal government has usurped for the last 100 years, and do the opposite of what he claims.

These are dangerous times, and you need to be armed with the Truth. Here it is in three papers:

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/huldah/140415

http://www.americanclarion.com/mark-levins-liberty-amendments-legalizing-tyranny-30211

http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/04/mark-levins-liberty-amendments-legalizing-tyranny/

I find the formats in the first two the easiest to read. You can post comments on the bottom two – and please do! I expect it will be in News with Views soon.

woodman
4th May 2014, 04:36 PM
Actually, I would think a Constitutional Convention would turn out badly.

I have no faith that tyranny wouldn't be the outcome.

Use the Amendment system to change the COTUS.

Agreed. These bastards are salivating, waiting to reform the constitution. They want our guns so bad, they can hardly stand it. They have degraded our society and our race and are just waiting to take the prize. They want to re-write the constitution.

Spectrism
5th May 2014, 04:43 PM
Why wouldn't they ignore it? After all, it is not their system.

It is up to the ones who belong to the constitutional system to make things happen. Don't blame those who are not part of it for not doing anything.

Can the Boy Scouts call a convention of Brownies?

Now that post is just plain STUPID. You really blew any remnant of credibility with that.

palani
5th May 2014, 05:31 PM
Now that post is just plain STUPID. You really blew any remnant of credibility with that.


If the ones in power don't follow the constitution why would they have a need for a constitutional convention? So they have a modified constitution to not follow?

You have identified yourself with the stupid plane. I expect you are especially outstanding in this plane.

Spectrism
5th May 2014, 06:29 PM
If the ones in power don't follow the constitution why would they have a need for a constitutional convention? So they have a modified constitution to not follow?

You have identified yourself with the stupid plane. I expect you are especially outstanding in this plane.

No. Your response was misplaced against one who pointed out that the news media have been silent about things like this. If you have cognitive dissonance about so many things I am going to have to start calling you Trump.

palani
5th May 2014, 06:35 PM
Your response was misplaced against one who pointed out that the news media have been silent about things like this. My response was against no one. It was an observation. Nothing more.


I am going to have to start calling you Trump.
Have I authorized you to call me anything at all?

Hatha Sunahara
5th May 2014, 06:52 PM
I don't think you will find much in the mainstream media to remind us of the constitution--other than with a slant that it is an ancient relic.

What we have today is stuff like this:


We need to stop worrying about the rights of the individual and start worrying about what is best for society.

Hillary Clinton

The constitution doesn't support the collectivists who have taken over the country. They're going to kill it without a convention--by just ignoring it. Just like they ignore 911 truthers and conspiracy theoriist swho are onto them. They own the present, so they control both the past and the future. Eventually no one will have ever heard of the constitution. It will be like those old photographs in history books where Stalin removed people whom he didn't want anyone to remember. One day our history will be 'constitution free'. Down the memory hole.

Hatha