Fascism - not what we've been led to believe...?

[midnight rambler]

I learned something about Fascism today -

http://www.tomatobubble.com/id567.html

[midnight rambler]

Check out where Fasci symbols can be found, you may have one in your pocket right now (if you have a Roosie dime in your pocket) -

http://constiintaadn.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/fasces_us.jpg

[Libertarian_Guard]

Outstanding site. I love tomato bubble, I learned a whole new way of looking at Napoleon (and much of history) from reading their work.

[madfranks]

Fascism is an economic system in which a nation's government plays a central role in monitoring all banking, trade, production, and labor activity which takes place within the nation. Such monitoring is done for the sole purpose of safeguarding & advancing the nation and its people.

The sole purpose, riiiiiight. The author of that article ignores corruption and power hungry lunatics governing for their own personal agendas, not "for the good of the people".

[Neuro]

The sole purpose, riiiiiight. The author of that article ignores corruption and power hungry lunatics governing for their own personal agendas, not "for the good of the people".
The difference between ideology and reality. I think Monarchy with an enlightened despot sounds better and better every day.

The problem is how to find an enlightened despot for the throne. Maybe a similar system as to how the Tibetans select their next Dalai Lama. They pick a boy at the age of three who shows extraordinary character, and train him in the arts, science and philosophy, by the best teachers the kingdom can muster. Actually train several, and at the age of 25 elect the king by popular vote to be the ruler for the rest of life. From then on let it be hereditary, but the heir should be selected by popular vote too.

[VX1]

From then on let it be hereditary, but the heir should be selected by popular vote too. Hmmm, sounds a lot like the Clinton/Bush/Kennedy/Rockefeller dynasties here.

[Neuro]

Hmmm, sounds a lot like the Clinton/Bush/Kennedy/Rockefeller dynasties here.
Yeah, but I think there should be the option of beheading if the monarch doesn't rule according to the consent of the people too... Hmmm... Just got me thinking of JFK... Anyway Clinton/Bush/Kennedy were puppets to the real rulers. JFK got unruly in that he was too much on common people's side, so he got whacked.

[Hatha Sunahara]

Let's glorify fascism? It's a collectivist nightmare that attracts sociopaths into its top hierarchy. It does everything by force, and thrives through authoritarianism. It requires external enemies to distract people from its injustices and ineptitudes, so it glorifies militarism. It can exist in both the right or left of the political spectrum. It often unites people by promoting hate for some group declared to be 'enemies of the state'. These are just a few of its defects that I can think of off the top of my head--I could make a huge list of defects of fascism with just a small research effort.

We already have 'friendly' fascism in America, but it is getting less friendly every day. If you find fascism attractive, I find you repulsive.


Hatha

[iOWNme]

If you find fascism attractive, I find you repulsive.

Hatha


+1000

Fascism is a euphemism for 'Government'. And 'Government' is a euphemism for SLAVERY.

I dont care what type, color or flavor of Slavery exists. It is immoral, unjust and anti-human.

[Neuro]

Let's glorify fascism? It's a collectivist nightmare that attracts sociopaths into its top hierarchy. It does everything by force, and thrives through authoritarianism. It requires external enemies to distract people from its injustices and ineptitudes, so it glorifies militarism. It can exist in both the right or left of the political spectrum. It often unites people by promoting hate for some group declared to be 'enemies of the state'. These are just a few of its defects that I can think of off the top of my head--I could make a huge list of defects of fascism with just a small research effort.

We already have 'friendly' fascism in America, but it is getting less friendly every day. If you find fascism attractive, I find you repulsive.

I don't necessarily disagree with what you say, but fascism, as I think the point of the OP article is, has been villified vs the other -isms that won the war, socialism, liberalism, communism, and capitalism, leading to equally or more oppressive and corrupt societies...let's look upon it openmindedly.

[Rubicon]

If you find fascism attractive, I find you repulsive.

ANTIFA is repulsive.

[Uncle Salty]

Fascism is just another form of collectivist bullshit rhetoric to justify tyranny of the individual in the name of making everything better for the group.

How about LeaveMeTheFuckAloneIfIAmNotFuckingWithOthersism?

I'll take that form of government.

[Libertarian_Guard]

Fascism is just another form of collectivist bullshit rhetoric to justify tyranny of the individual in the name of making everything better for the group.

How about LeaveMeTheFuckAloneIfIAmNotFuckingWithOthersism?

I'll take that form of government.

Sounds good, except that we'll never have "LeaveMeTheFuckAloneIfIAmNotFuckingWithOthersism" because humans will never break away from alpha-male-ism.

[singular_me]

any ideology praising whatever gov = same ... it just is a matter of time to end up with same aftermath: slavery

[monochrome]

How about LeaveMeTheFuckAloneIfIAmNotFuckingWithOthersism?

I'll take that form of government.


That will never exist, it goes against our natural impulses.

[Dogman]

That will never exist, it goes against our natural impulses. Welcome to the nuthouse!

May you find color here!

Tho grey in some cases have made a buck or two.

As 50 shades.

;D

[monochrome]

Thanks for the welcome.

[osoab]

This article wasn't written by "The Tomato Bubble".

Who is James Miller, Phd?

I think it is this guy. http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/2011/09/what-is-fascism.html

his bio.


I am very concerned about globalization & immigration and their negative effect on White Western culture. Multiculturalism within a nation leads to internal tension and eventual violent conflict... 6,000 years of human warfare proves this (i.e., roughly 80% of all wars throughout history are rooted in racial/ethnic/religious conflict). All races and ethnicities are "tribal" & separatist in nature - these innate characteristics of human nature must be accepted and public policy should be crafted with such characteristics in mind. Hence, racial/ethnic homogeneity should be encouraged by policy makers. Pursuing racial/ethnic homogeneity is the most humane way to organize the world's peoples.

My views draw from: Adolf Hitler, Gottfried Feder, David Irving, Tom Metzger, David Icke, G. Edward Griffin, Norman Finkelstein, George Lincoln Rockwell, Dr. Karl Radl, David Duke, Michael Collins Piper, Pat Buchanan, Kevin MacDonald, & Jared Taylor.

Regarding my professional life, I have a PhD in Physics from Brown University. I do R & D (research & development) in High Energy Physics.

Looks like an Adolph lover. Then throw in MCP and Icke? This guy must be working on some neat stuff for the lizard people.

[Santa]

"You can clean up a pig, put a ribbon on it's tail, spray it with perfume, but it is still a pig."

[Dogman]

This article wasn't written by "The Tomato Bubble".

Who is James Miller, Phd?

I think it is this guy. http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/2011/09/what-is-fascism.html

his bio.



Looks like an Adolph lover. Then throw in MCP and Icke? This guy must be working on some neat stuff for the lizard people.

Your quote, some mi thinks is somewhat right, but as you his sources leave one to wonder.

Do not care for agendas.

[osoab]

"You can clean up a pig, put a ribbon on it's tail, spray it with perfume, but it is still a pig."

What does Sarah Palin have to do with this? :D

[monochrome]

I think Adolph was a great man, research life in Germany from 1933 to 1939 and I think you will find that his social experiment was having an incredible success and the parasites decided to destroy it before the rest of the world could learn from it an emulate it.

[Dogman]

Egomaniac runt.

[singular_me]

lets be fair: here is all the people he mentions....
My views draw from: Adolf Hitler, Gottfried Feder, David Irving, Tom Metzger, David Icke, G. Edward Griffin, Norman Finkelstein, George Lincoln Rockwell, Dr. Karl Radl, David Duke, Michael Collins Piper, Pat Buchanan, Kevin MacDonald, & Jared Taylor.

I think the author is just VERY confused...




This article wasn't written by "The Tomato Bubble".

Who is James Miller, Phd?

I think it is this guy. http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/2011/09/what-is-fascism.html

his bio.



Looks like an Adolph lover. Then throw in MCP and Icke? This guy must be working on some neat stuff for the lizard people.

[osoab]

Your quote, some mi thinks is somewhat right, but as you his sources leave one to wonder.

Do not care for agendas.


Sometime before World War II, a coup took place in the United States - our government was hijacked by a group of Jewish globalist Super-elites. Thus, it really doesn't matter who is "President": Republican, Democrat, Bush, Obama, etc... they all work for Jewish globalists. Obama is just the latest employee of these Jewish Super-elites and their Gentile lackeys; he merely carries out their orders. In light of this, dissent is the only true form of patriotism - the Founding Fathers would agree.

This guy is still in la la land. It's been controlled from day one.

The quote above is the banner on his blog. His piece that was posted at "The Tomato Bubble" was from 2011

He has some good stuff on the joo issue on his blog. I am surprised he keeps his job with those posts.

[osoab]

I think Adolph was a great man, research life in Germany from 1933 to 1939 and I think you will find that his social experiment was having an incredible success and the parasites decided to destroy it before the rest of the world could learn from it an emulate it.

Schicklgruber was just going along with the plan.

[Dachsie]

I am a subscriber to Mike King's Tomato Bubble, but I do not agree with everything he writes.

I think this description of what fascism is is abstract and utopian.

All the experience of fascist governments and countries in this world have failed. They all were administered in a strict totalitarian manner.

All the isms are bad, including capitalism, fascism and communism.

Certain Christians sort of have a congenital weakness for fascism. I guess because it purports to be primarily concerned with the common good of the people. When we try to ask ourselves what political philosophy and form of government would be most consistent with Christ and His teachings, we see that there really has never been any such perfect system in this world's history.

I saw several things wrong with this article about fascism.

It seems that those of us who struggle to expose in the right way the Zionist, Israeli and Jew connection to our geopolitical and social milieu often end up praising fascism and telling everyone what a wonderful human being Hitler was and how loving and caring the camps were in Germany.

Dachsie says NO SALE.

[Horn]

Fascism is a direct approach to the unsolvable problem of humanity,

a nation of people governing itself by it are comparable to a dry drunk standing on a ledge.

[Libertarian_Guard]

I think Adolph was a great man, research life in Germany from 1933 to 1939 and I think you will find that his social experiment was having an incredible success and the parasites decided to destroy it before the rest of the world could learn from it an emulate it.

Since WWII had nothing (other than rhetoric) to do with Germany & Russia invading Poland and the western powers never had a gripe against Russia for their part in the heist, it must have been something else that put Germany in the western powers crosshairs.

Zionist money power players (bankers, central banks, press & politicians) call all the really big moves in this world for the last 100+ years and Hitler wasn't playing ball with that bunch, quite the opposite is true.

[Dachsie]

"Zionist money power players (bankers, central banks, press & politicians) call all the really big moves in this world for the last 100+ years and Hitler wasn't playing ball with that bunch, quite the opposite is true. "

I wonder if that is true. It sounds good to me on the surface, but I know that the big "Zionist money power players (bankers, central banks, press & politicians)" strongly financed Hitler's Germany up to and during the war as they also did finance Russia around the same time and up through the Viet Nam war.

I think it is possible Hitler wanted to not play ball with that bunch, but he and Germany were already firmly in the clutches of the dialectical program to have another world war, and there was nothing he could do to get out of the trap.

I guess I look at the goal of a one world death and slavery system, a "New World Order", to have been the goal for well over a century. Countries and leaders are created and/or built up and sustained and played like pawns in a big chess game. Wars move the "brotherhood of darkness" players closer to the goal very efficiently and profoundly so they must make them happen. If there is no enemy for a country or coalition of countries to fight against in a war, they will create and build up the best enemy money can buy.

This is not going to end well.

[Libertarian_Guard]

My best guess is that those very close to the top of the food chain, the real power players, always hedge their bets, simply because you can never be sure how events will play out, and its better to be an insider, rather than an outsider, after the shooting stops.

During much of the great depression Hitler's Germany was a shining star, especially compared with the other basket case economies, so naturally it attracted attention and investment, zionist bankers and their minions are not hermetically sealed at the hips or brains, money & power will always attract attention …. (even if only to help steer events into the ground, wtf do I know?)

To what degree was Hitler being used as a set-up / fall guy in order to complete the 6 million victims zionist wet dream, I don't know, but others have stated a good case for this being possible.

[midnight rambler]

My best guess is that those very close to the top of the food chain, the real power players, always hedge their bets, simply because you can never be sure how events will play out, and its better to be an insider, rather than an outsider, after the shooting stops.

During much of the great depression Hitler's Germany was a shining star, especially compared with the other basket case economies, so naturally it attracted attention and investment, zionist bankers and their minions are not hermetically sealed at the hips or brains, money & power will always attract attention …. (even if only to help steer events into the ground, wtf do I know?)

To what degree was Hitler being used as a set-up / fall guy in order to complete the 6 million victims zionist wet dream, I don't know, but others have stated a good case for this being possible.

When one views the amazing photos of Germany's well advanced progress and development in the '30s it's hard to imagine how they got there when Germany's currency and economic state of affairs was completely eviscerated only a mere 10-15 years earlier. Regardless of one's view of Hitler Germany was a real powerhouse in the '30s.

[Neuro]

"Zionist money power players (bankers, central banks, press & politicians) call all the really big moves in this world for the last 100+ years and Hitler wasn't playing ball with that bunch, quite the opposite is true. "

I wonder if that is true. It sounds good to me on the surface, but I know that the big "Zionist money power players (bankers, central banks, press & politicians)" strongly financed Hitler's Germany up to and during the war as they also did finance Russia around the same time and up through the Viet Nam war.

I think it is possible Hitler wanted to not play ball with that bunch, but he and Germany were already firmly in the clutches of the dialectical program to have another world war, and there was nothing he could do to get out of the trap.

I guess I look at the goal of a one world death and slavery system, a "New World Order", to have been the goal for well over a century. Countries and leaders are created and/or built up and sustained and played like pawns in a big chess game. Wars move the "brotherhood of darkness" players closer to the goal very efficiently and profoundly so they must make them happen. If there is no enemy for a country or coalition of countries to fight against in a war, they will create and build up the best enemy money can buy.

This is not going to end well.
No kidding! Especially not if the enemy is Putin and Russia. I saw this TV talk show a month ago when I was in Sweden, where the ex-CEO of Volvo (Per G Gyllenhammar) and a Norwegian foreign correspondent, both Jews, claimed first that both their families were made virtually extinct, apart from themselves, during the holocaust, and that Russia's actions in Ukraine is the same as Germany's pre WWII. And that Putin is the same as Hitler. The ex-Volvo chairman is very liked in Sweden, he was the chairman about 25 years ago, but I had never heard of his Jewish past before or that he supposedly lost all his extended family in the holocaust.

They were brought in to give sufficient credence to the Hitler-Putin angle. No doubt!

Putin is a very smart intelligent strategic leader though. If they decide to throw him under the bus, it will end badly. Very bad!

[iOWNme]

Sounds good, except that we'll never have "LeaveMeTheFuckAloneIfIAmNotFuckingWithOthersism" because humans will never break away from alpha-male-ism.

Accept for the fact that we are not run by the 'Alpha males' of our society. The 'Alpha males' are being run by narcissistic sociopathic CRIMINALS. Which makes them not really 'Alpha males' at all.

[iOWNme]

That will never exist, it goes against our natural impulses.


Do YOU have a 'natural impulse' to violently dominate your fewllow man?

[Neuro]

No kidding! Especially not if the enemy is Putin and Russia. I saw this TV talk show a month ago when I was in Sweden, where the ex-CEO of Volvo (Per G Gyllenhammar) and a Norwegian foreign correspondent, both Jews, claimed first that both their families were made virtually extinct, apart from themselves, during the holocaust, and that Russia's actions in Ukraine is the same as Germany's pre WWII. And that Putin is the same as Hitler. The ex-Volvo chairman is very liked in Sweden, he was the chairman about 25 years ago, but I had never heard of his Jewish past before or that he supposedly lost all his extended family in the holocaust.

They were brought in to give sufficient credence to the Hitler-Putin angle. No doubt!

Putin is a very smart intelligent strategic leader though. If they decide to throw him under the bus, it will end badly. Very bad!
Now, funny thing was that I googled for Pehr G Gyllenhammar, to see if something was written about his loss of extended family during holocaust, after writing my reply. He has apparently been working for the Rothschilds as a vice Chairman, according to Wikipedia!


Gyllenhammar is now Vice Chairman of Rothschild Europe.

further...

Gyllenhammar was made Commander of the "Ordre National du Mérite" in France in 1980 and he was made Commander of the Legion of Honour in France in 1987. Gyllenhammar became an Honorary Master of the Bench of the Inner Temple, London in 2001

And now he is also the chairman of the Rothschild news agency Reuters:

He serves as a director of the Reuters Founders Share Company since 1997 (now Chairman) and was awarded in 2003 an honorary doctorate by Gothenburg School of Economics and Commercial Law.


Nothing though about his extended family being holocausted the bunch of them!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pehr_G._Gyllenhammar

[Hatha Sunahara]

I think the stories of the Rothschilds financing Hitler are a bit exaggerated.

It was not fascism that caused Germany's economic revitalization under Hitler, but Hitler's 'money system' which was essentially the government issuing interest free money that resulted in Germany's ability to rearm itself and wage a huge war. All other countries even today bear that burden. Hitler perhaps deserves credit for this. Despite this, Fascism is still a system of slavery, and even more often than democracies, leads to the emergence of a kakistocracy--often one run by lunatics.



Hatha

[Neuro]

Do YOU have a 'natural impulse' to violently dominate your fewllow man?
Probably not, most don't, but a few do, and it is the natural impulse of most to follow these psychopaths, unfortunately.

[Libertarian_Guard]

Accept for the fact that we are not run by the 'Alpha males' of our society. The 'Alpha males' are being run by narcissistic sociopathic CRIMINALS. Which makes them not really 'Alpha males' at all.


"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"

[gunDriller]

what the US has now is Judeo-fascism.

[Hatha Sunahara]

Probably not, most don't, but a few do, and it is the natural impulse of most to follow these psychopaths, unfortunately.





I think you've hit on the real danger of fascism with this comment. Most people would welcome being 'protected' by a strong leader. They would gladly become slaves for such protection. Those who see fascism clearly have to contend not only with the lunatics who present themselves as 'strong leaders' but with the sheep who would willingly follow them. If that condition arises in your country, your only recourse is to move out. If we are faced with global fascism, as we are today, we'll just have to wait it out till it self-destructs--as all fascist states do.


Hatha

[Horn]

When one views the amazing photos of Germany's well advanced progress and development in the '30s it's hard to imagine how they got there when Germany's currency and economic state of affairs was completely eviscerated only a mere 10-15 years earlier. Regardless of one's view of Hitler Germany was a real powerhouse in the '30s.

Putin could be placed along those same lines today.

I do believe most countries these days employ the softer parts of blending a czar style fascism with oligarchy, so fascism itself is not all that unfamiliar to us on the commune.

[Neuro]

I think you've hit on the real danger of fascism with this comment. Most people would welcome being 'protected' by a strong leader. They would gladly become slaves for such protection. Those who see fascism clearly have to contend not only with the lunatics who present themselves as 'strong leaders' but with the sheep who would willingly follow them. If that condition arises in your country, your only recourse is to move out. If we are faced with global fascism, as we are today, we'll just have to wait it out till it self-destructs--as all fascist states do.


Hatha
Actually, it happens with every strong leader regardless of their ideological taint. I don't know why you prefer to single out fascist leaders?

[Horn]

It is prerequisite to be designated Forum Lord before you can apostate for fascism. lol :)

http://www.quotesvalley.com/images/04/all-power-tends-to-corrupt-and-absolute-power-corrupts-absolutely-2.jpg

[mick silver]

nothing more then a tax

[Neuro]

It is prerequisite to be designated Forum Lord before you can apostate for fascism. lol :)

http://www.quotesvalley.com/images/04/all-power-tends-to-corrupt-and-absolute-power-corrupts-absolutely-2.jpg
Nice underhanded harassment there Horn!

[midnight rambler]

what the US has now is Judeo-fascism.

I think that's the most accurate description I've heard of for what we're now suffering under, in fact I'm going to start using that term.

[midnight rambler]

What's the definition of a Fascist?

Go to the source, Black's Law Dictionary (West Publishing).

FASCIST. A believer in the corporate state. --Black's Law Dictionary, 4th Edition

And there you have it, Fascism is another belief system (aka 'religion').

[Hatha Sunahara]

Actually, it happens with every strong leader regardless of their ideological taint. I don't know why you prefer to single out fascist leaders?

Maybe because their first impulse in dealing with a problem is to apply force. They deny natural rights. And they are totalitarians by nature. What makes American fascism more palatable is that it has no personality cult (no identifiable strong leader), and they assume people are sheep, and make a big deal of getting you to agree that their outrageous demands are rational.. Fascism basically is the denial of freedom. It is the closest thing you can get to anti-freedom. The fascists are the masters and everybody else is a slave. I single them out as repulsive because I put a high value on personal freedom.

Hatha

[Neuro]

Maybe because their first impulse in dealing with a problem is to apply force. They deny natural rights. And they are totalitarians by nature. What makes American fascism more palatable is that it has no personality cult (no identifiable strong leader), and they assume people are sheep, and make a big deal of getting you to agree that their outrageous demands are rational.. Fascism basically is the denial of freedom. It is the closest thing you can get to anti-freedom. The fascists are the masters and everybody else is a slave. I single them out as repulsive because I put a high value on personal freedom.

Hatha
And it is different from Communism or Socialism how, since you obviously think fascism is worse than those and want to single out fascism?

[gunDriller]

And it is different from Communism or Socialism how, since you obviously think fascism is worse than those and want to single out fascism?

>> Communism

A form of social organization that Jews use to promote their own interests.

>> Socialism

A form of social organization that Jews use to promote their own interests.

>> fascism

A form of social organization that Jews use to promote their own interests.


hmmm ... seems like a pattern.

does this merely reflect my own perspective - or is something else going on ?


ref. Obamacare - promoted by Rahm Emanuel when he was in the White House. Co-written by Ezekiel Emanuel (his brother). also promoted by Ari Emanuel, most powerful talent agent in Hollywood & major Obama fund-raiser.

and they're all the sons of retired Israeli terrrorist Benjamin Emanuel.

[Hatha Sunahara]

And it is different from Communism or Socialism how, since you obviously think fascism is worse than those and want to single out fascism?

They are all government, and governmen is the use of force. Fascism idealizes 'efficient' government, which is the effective use of force, and therefore in my mind, the worst of the lot. I am singling out the worst of a very bad lot.

Now I'm trying to understand why you so persistently defend fascism. Or is it that you are just tweaking me for expressing hostility toward it. My father was a proto fascist. He was a big fan of 'law and order' meaning the use of force to make people conform and obey. An authoritarian. "Love it or leave it.' He was also an elitist because he valued his own freedom--just not that of others.


Hatha

[mick silver]

back up for gundriller he said all you need to know

[Neuro]

They are all government, and governmen is the use of force. Fascism idealizes 'efficient' government, which is the effective use of force, and therefore in my mind, the worst of the lot. I am singling out the worst of a very bad lot.

Now I'm trying to understand why you so persistently defend fascism. Or is it that you are just tweaking me for expressing hostility toward it. My father was a proto fascist. He was a big fan of 'law and order' meaning the use of force to make people conform and obey. An authoritarian. "Love it or leave it.' He was also an elitist because he valued his own freedom--just not that of others.


Hatha
I think by demonising fascism, but giving a free pass to every other equally or worse opressive authoritarian ideology you are giving a free pass to all of them, and it happens to coincide with NWO programming since WWII, that is all!

[singular_me]

some deja vu here :)



Now I'm trying to understand why you so persistently defend fascism. Or is it that you are just tweaking me for expressing hostility toward it.

[Horn]

http://www.quotesvalley.com/images/04/all-power-tends-to-corrupt-and-absolute-power-corrupts-absolutely-2.jpg

...

[monty]

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[Horn]

I think by demonising fascism, but giving a free pass to every other equally or worse opressive authoritarian ideology you are giving a free pass to all of them, and it happens to coincide with NWO programming since WWII, that is all!

Fascist Apologist extraordinaire.

[Shami-Amourae]

Fascist Apologist extraordinaire.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnP9d1nuxDw

[singular_me]

more of the same "government planning"... we are here to protect you from Liberty... errr Slavery... same dialectic. Simply because "we" know better.

moreover, thats exactly what said the communists.

agree with Horn. those defending fascism are big gov and centralization apologists



OP: First and foremost, Fascism is an economic system in which a nation's government plays a central role in monitoring all banking, trade, production, and labor activity which takes place within the nation. Such monitoring is done for the sole purpose of safeguarding & advancing the nation and its people.


Hatha Sunahara
They are all government, and government is the use of force.


Thank you Hatha, this forum has lost a great thinker the day you vanished. Thinking of you

[Shami-Amourae]

I think the best option is what I call National Libertarianism.

Basically that's how America was founded and was up until the mid-1900s.

We used to only allow immigrants from White nations.





Under National Libertarianism government is small, but their primary objective is to maintain the borders and preserve the racial demographics of the population. Current Libertarianism calls for open borders. This is suicide. Limited government and self-determinism are White ideas, not readily held by non-Whites.

Basically if you bring in a bunch of Mexicans into the United States you turn it from a Libertarian society into a Socialistic society. Having a large government infrastructure encourages non-Whites since non-Whites are what keep beaurocracies humming. White people just want to be left alone and work for a living. Non-Whites want to complain all day, tell everyone how to live, and get free handouts from White people. That's primarily why government bureaucracies favor non-Whites since it keeps them in power.

Fascism can only work under a benevolent dictator, and few of those exist in history. It does seem to work in Russia currently with Putin. Fascism is the best tool to deal with Communism when it's taken complete control. Fascism is basically the offensive end of Libertarianism/Capitalism. It's a great thing as long as the leaders remember to step down and reduce the size of the government after they give Commie Pinochet helicopter rides.

[Horn]

You left out your "Manifest Destiny" portion that started about the 1840s, Shami.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOCcbKAhlY0

[Shami-Amourae]

You left out your "Manifest Destiny" portion that started about the 1840s, Shami.


What's wrong with that?

Manifest Destiny was a good thing.

The only problem is we didn't slaughter all the Amerindians. We were dumb enough to put them on fucking preserves and pay them for breathing. Now they are all flooding the country and turning everything into fucking Taco.

Imagine how awesome Mexico and the rest of the Americas would have been if the Spanish had slaughtered the Amerindians down there like we did here in America. Now the White ruling class in Mexico is dumping all their Amerindian Shitskins on us with our retarded open-border policy and Mexico is slowly turning into a White nation.

[Horn]

I see, so protecting borders goes hand in hand with expanding them into "the promised land" how very kosher of you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40McA9M_2ls

[Shami-Amourae]

I see, so protecting borders goes hand in hand with expanding them into "the promised land" how very kosher of you.

I see nothing wrong with what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians.

My issue is they they are hypocrites in saying we cannot do the same.

I'm not a hypocrite on this issue.

[singular_me]

utter control for a greater good... whole country coerced into a vanilla life style ???


OP
Under Fascism, government plays a key role in monitoring: film, theatre, art, literature, music, education, etc in order to maintain a high moral standard, keep things clean and respectable, promote a strong sense of patriotism and honor, and prevent the dissemination of depraved filth which corrupts society.




SHAMI
I see nothing wrong with what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians.

RE: so you agree with those behind the balfour declaration and agenda 21 then?

[Horn]

I see nothing wrong with what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians.

My issue is they they are hypocrites in saying we cannot do the same.

You mean us Palestinians by "we" of course?

[Neuro]

Fascist Apologist extraordinaire.
Not at all, the comparison was with communism.

[Shami-Amourae]

SHAMI
I see nothing wrong with what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians.

RE: so you agree with those behind the balfour declaration and agenda 21 then?

No, since it's being done to me.

I see what you're setting up.

Basically "You wouldn't want that to happen to you so you shouldn't do that to them." Non-aggression principle stuff. I know you think I'm an Evil monster since I'm against that. I used to believe in it, but I've come to terms that we live in a predatory world full of idiots. Because of that scumbags will always rise to the top of power and fuck you over. The only real defense is to fuck others back so you can cut your own place in this world. When an oppressor sees you as predatory, even if you are a lesser predator than them, they will typically leave you alone and go for easier prey.

Dog eat dog to survive. We live in a society that has convinced us self-preservation is Evil by the people screwing us over. It's just common sense to me that I need to be a predator to survive, and feeling sorry for it is just weakness.


Fact is if we aren't doing the oppressing someone will rise up and do it to us, and those people are the Jews. Jews took power over us in recent history when we stopped being racist, enslaving and subjugating lesser peoples. We are weak now, and easily cucked.

Ideally I'd prefer to be left alone, and harm no one, but since we have an enemy who wants to flood our nations full of the Turd World and champion our destruction I can't sit idly by.


Predator or Prey. Pick one.

[Horn]

Not at all, the comparison was with communism.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58RDtNElSgw

[singular_me]

shami: I see nothing wrong with what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians.
RE: so you agree with those behind the balfour declaration and agenda 21 then?
shami: No, since it's being done to me.


because it is happening to them, it is happening to you

no, I am not going to use the non aggression principle here... but which of cause and effect

[Shami-Amourae]

but which of cause and effect

It's not cause and effect. It's nature. It's just how things are. It will happen no matter what.

[Horn]

If you aspire to become just like the jew and you really wanna go vampire and all, Shami

Remember they used a combination of weakness to flight rather than fight and then predatory lending strength to cutout their piece of the promised land. Strength in a small mobile numbers Not in the individual is their winning strategy.

Though even some individuals have managed to survive the onslaught and nasty neck bites.

[Neuro]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58RDtNElSgw
And another video non-response... Continue your forum spamming Hornstein...

[singular_me]

It's not cause and effect. It's nature. It's just how things are. It will happen no matter what.

the laws of electromagnetism are Nature, you are half correct

But Man has the dominion over Nature, so it can influence it.

If spreading respect for Live, he will transcend his instincts

understanding is essential to understand the world state of affairs... what makes one either a spiritual being or atheist.

the NWO banks on the masses to never get this.

[mick silver]

in Nature the strong live on and the weak die off that's the way its always been and always will be

[Shami-Amourae]

in Nature the strong live on and the weak die off that's the way its always been and always will be


Yes that's what I'm saying.

That's also the belief of the ruling class. They just try to amass so much wealth their descendants are protected for many generations.

All I'm saying is be strong enough so you can keep going.


By not eating GMOs, rejecting vaccines, and so on you're getting through the eugenical hurdle that the public is subjected to.

[brosil]

Wow, I'm impressed that he got the definition right. Now, wander over to the Von Mises library and download a copy of The Vampire Economy to see how it turns out.

[singular_me]

in Nature the strong live on and the weak die off that's the way its always been and always will be

you do not understand what does mean and entail "having dominion over nature", man cannot even behave like an animal, when he does he becomes a BEAST of destruction, the 666... look at the state of the planet.

anybody who doesnt get this, have the same mindset than NWOs.

[Horn]

in Nature the strong live on and the weak die off that's the way its always been and always will be

Again is more vidence that man is not exactly a part to nature, jews played upon their weakness to dominate the rest. I mean if that is what Shami's plan is to dominate racially the jew is his example and mentour.

The meek have inherited the earth.

[mick silver]

your so full of yourself you cant think
you do not understand what does mean and entail "having dominion over nature", man cannot even behave like an animal, when he does he becomes a BEAST of destruction, the 666... look at the state of the planet.

anybody who doesnt get this, have the same mindset than NWOs.

[mick silver]

man was a big part of Nature and still is today ... there were cavemen that live off of Nature just as I do today . still hunt fish trap so doing that not part of Nature . some of you need to go outside and be part of Nature . learn were you food comes from

[Neuro]

Wow, I'm impressed that he got the definition right. Now, wander over to the Von Mises library and download a copy of The Vampire Economy to see how it turns out.
You enjoy reading communist Zionist fiction?

[singular_me]

your so full of yourself you cant think

not full of myself... man is NOT an animal because he has dominion over nature... I repeat NOT animal. And the nwo wants us to believe that...

sorry that has been 1000s of years that we were taught a SCAM

anyone believing this helps NWO achieve its goal.

[mick silver]

do you ever think before you open your mouth . one more person I will not feed . why cant a human be a animal

[Neuro]

you do not understand what does mean and entail "having dominion over nature", man cannot even behave like an animal, when he does he becomes a BEAST of destruction, the 666... look at the state of the planet.

anybody who doesnt get this, have the same mindset than NWOs.
666? You argued before this was an integral part of the sacred geometry... Who are this mysterious NWO, you continue harping about?

[mick silver]

It is true that humans differ from other animals in terms of intelligence. However, from a biological perspective, humans are classified as animals! Why does this bother people, and why do people take great measures to prove that they are not animals? If you think about it, it is only a classification system anyway. It is a biological classification system designed to classify any living organism it encounters into groups according to the organism's characteristics.
Therefore, biologically we are members of the Animalia Kingdom; we are animals Biblically, the word animal was used in a way that made distinctions between humans and other organisms

[singular_me]

666? You argued before this was an integral part of the sacred geometry... Who are this mysterious NWO, you continue harping about?

... every number has a double meaning, is dual, just as every thought we have... depends on the intent projected into it. the mind decides everything. 666 could be the quintessence of Man too.

why do you think God created man the 6th day? ooh... sacred geometry in the bible? No way :D

brainwash people into believing they are animals and all you get are beasts. The state of the planet is an irrefutable evidence at this stage.

Neuro, you will never get metaphysics, sorry. That the NWO has absolute mastery of the physical and metaphysical. And I am on this path to beat them at their own level. Knowledge is power.

[mick silver]

The majority of humans will agree that we are the smartest living creature. The truth is we really don't know, so why make the assumption? We can get animals to learn our languages, and react to our commands, but we can't do the same. We put ourselves at the top, because we can do all these things we assume animals can't do, never once questioning IF we should do these things. Other animals do not destroy for wealth, kill because they like it, misuse our resources, and slowly kill our planet. Humans see the other animals as less than, but in reality I think they have a better grasp on humanity than we 'humans' do. We are all animals, some are just better than others, and I don't mean humans.

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[mick silver]

Human beings are categorized in the Animalia Kingdom. Father down the scientific classifications humans are in the Mammalia Class. So, we are both animals and mammals!

Scientists mostly divide the world of living things into animals and plants. If something gets its energy from sunlight and doesn’t move around on its own, a scientist will usually call that creature a plant. Grass, moss, pumpkins and apple trees are all examples of plants.

If a creature gets its energy from eating other things and it can move around on its own, then scientists call it an animal. Dogs, cats, frogs, fish, dinosaurs, and humans are all examples of animals.

Mammals (or Mammalia) are members of a class of air-breathing vertebrate animals characterized by the possession of hair/fur, three middle ear bones, warm-blooded and mammary glands functional in mothers feeding their offspring. Most mammals also possess sweat glands and specialized teeth, and give birth to live offspring rather than lay eggs. - We humans have all of these things. Therefore we are mammals.

[Shami-Amourae]

We could never be animals since that makes me feel less important!

MY FEELINGS!

Stop being mean to singular_me.

She's special.

http://orig15.deviantart.net/b9b8/f/2012/111/5/1/special_snowflake_by_keiggy-d4x484i.png

[Neuro]

... every number has a double meaning, is dual, just as every thought we have... depends on the intent projected into it. the mind decides everything. 666 could be the quintessence of Man too.

why do you think God created man the 6th day? ooh... sacred geometry in the bible? No way :D

brainwash people into believing they are animals and all you get are beasts. The state of the planet is an irrefutable evidence at this stage.

Neuro, you will never get metaphysics, sorry.
I don't think God created man on the 6th day. It took him more than a trillion days. But he did it! God gave you a brain to think with, you used the option not to. Do you think God is happy with your choice?

[singular_me]

mick, the day you hear of animals that can build planes, design complex technologies, project the future far ahead or have discovered God, let me know.



Human beings are categorized in the Animalia Kingdom. Father down the scientific classifications humans are in the Mammalia Class. So, we are both animals and mammals!

Scientists mostly divide the world of living things into animals and plants. If something gets its energy from sunlight and doesn’t move around on its own, a scientist will usually call that creature a plant. Grass, moss, pumpkins and apple trees are all examples of plants.

If a creature gets its energy from eating other things and it can move around on its own, then scientists call it an animal. Dogs, cats, frogs, fish, dinosaurs, and humans are all examples of animals.

Mammals (or Mammalia) are members of a class of air-breathing vertebrate animals characterized by the possession of hair/fur, three middle ear bones, warm-blooded and mammary glands functional in mothers feeding their offspring. Most mammals also possess sweat glands and specialized teeth, and give birth to live offspring rather than lay eggs. - We humans have all of these things. Therefore we are mammals.

[singular_me]

I don't think God created man on the 6th day. It took him more than a trillion days. But he did it! God gave you a brain to think with, you used the option not to. Do you think God is happy with your choice?

werent we talking of sacred geometry, so I gave you an example, god created man the 6th day.

[Neuro]

werent we talking of sacred geometry, so I gave you an example, god created man the 6th day.
You asked why I think God created man on the 6th day. I don't. Do you?

[mick silver]

are you on meth .... there thing that animal can do that human animals cant so it even

[singular_me]

yes, animal can fathom the entire universe... consciousness is why we differ from animals essentially.


are you on meth .... there thing that animal can do that human animals cant so it even

[singular_me]

We could never be animals since that makes me feel less important!

MY FEELINGS!

Stop being mean to singular_me.

She's special.

http://orig15.deviantart.net/b9b8/f/2012/111/5/1/special_snowflake_by_keiggy-d4x484i.png

ahhh shami... you are too special... yet everybody too, each of us holds a precious piece of the puzzle, called humanity.

I am just sick and tired of wars that always benefit the NWO, and people falling for it.

[Horn]

yes, animal can fathom the entire universe... consciousness is why we differ from animals essentially.

I can fathom the universe and do better than any animal can do too.

Fascism is for Phil Collins fans.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNJVFloPIVA