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old steel
7th May 2014, 10:21 AM
This can't be true? Seriously WTF?

Growing Your Own Food at Home is now illegal!

by lifeintheknow on March 27, 2014 in News (http://www.lifeintheknow.com/category/news/)


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a Disturbing new trend is emerging where people who try and live a sustainable life by growing their own food and harvesting their own energy from the sun and water from rain are now being raided by swat teams and in some cases thrown in jail.
Watch these two videos for more information regarding this new trend and make sure to let us know what you think in the comments.


If you are sensitive to profanity do not watch this one.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAVpDMy3RRA


UPDATE 5 May 2014


Michigan residents just lost their rights to farm.
Michigan residents lost their “right to farm” this week thanks to a new ruling by the Michigan Commission of Agriculture and Rural Development. Gail Philburn of the Michigan Sierra Club told Michigan Live, the new changes (http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2014/04/holda_change_in_rules_for_mich.html) “effectively remove Right to Farm Act protection for many urban and suburban backyard farmers raising small numbers of animals.” Backyard and urban farming were previously protected by Michigan’s Right to Farm Act. The Commission ruled that the Right to Farm Act protections no longer apply to many homeowners who keep small numbers of livestock.
Kim White, who raises chickens and rabbits, said, “They don’t want us little guys feeding ourselves. They want us to go all to the big farms. They want to do away with small farms and I believe that is what’s motivating it.”
Read more about this developing story here (http://www.inquisitr.com/1235774/michigan-loses-right-to-farm-this-week-a-farewell-to-backyard-chickens-and-beekeepers)..


http://www.lifeintheknow.com/do-not-even-try-and-grow-your-own-food-at-home-it-is-now-illegal/

madfranks
7th May 2014, 10:31 AM
Growing Your Own Food at Home is now illegal!

While the trend is true, this is not a universal federal law, it's usually smaller counties or cities enacting these ordinances, in this case the whole state of Michigan. Not that I agree with any of it, just stating that for most people, it's not illegal.

midnight rambler
7th May 2014, 10:32 AM
Time to show one's true colors and hoist the 'Come and Take It' flag...for the men and women with 'nads.

Dogman
7th May 2014, 10:37 AM
May have to do with what part of the country plus if living in an urban area?

Have not seen or heard anything like the op in this area. Not sure if one turns the front yard into a food garden, know there are restrictions abt fencing restrictions so far back from the road and also power lines. But there are plenty of back yard ones here. So far chickens are also allowed within all city limits in this ares. Could be that in some ways this area compared to others could be considered rural. Bunch of ranchers both cow and horse raisers in this area, plus within the city limits here.

But do have to say if you keep livestock, you better take care of them, many eyes are watching just waiting to call and turn in suspected abuse.

Forget it if one lives in a "gated community"!

7th trump
7th May 2014, 10:44 AM
A bit misleading headline.
From what I gathered from watching just a little of the video and reading on the link (correct me if I'm wrong)....this is about raising animals for food consumption....not growing vegetables.
I was raised on a farm (did all the butchering I care to ever do) and now living in the small city it would be a problem for most people to even raise an animal for consumption...muchless the butchering of the animal.
Most cant even raise a dog or cat...they just go ignored most of the time....neglected.
You just dont butcher an animal in your backyard like you would on a farm. Chickens would be an exception to butchering as they are relatively clean and easy.....throw then in the freezer right away after plucking.
But butchering a goat or pig in the back yard is complete stupidity.......not even going to mention how bloody the mess will be...then hang it in a cool place to get the temperature down to a level to kill some of the bacteria associated with butchering.

Ponce
7th May 2014, 11:35 AM
One more time "If you don't hold, you don't own it"..... GET A FREAKING LAND PATENT....I already use it twice against them and it works.....one against the "Water Master" and again with the fire department.......they wanted to "inspect" my property for fire hazard.

You can cultivate or build anything, they would need a warrant signed by a Federal Judge to get in, hard to get.

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old steel
7th May 2014, 12:00 PM
A bit misleading headline.
From what I gathered from watching just a little of the video and reading on the link (correct me if I'm wrong)....this is about raising animals for food consumption....not growing vegetables.
I was raised on a farm (did all the butchering I care to ever do) and now living in the small city it would be a problem for most people to even raise an animal for consumption...muchless the butchering of the animal.
Most cant even raise a dog or cat...they just go ignored most of the time....neglected.
You just dont butcher an animal in your backyard like you would on a farm. Chickens would be an exception to butchering as they are relatively clean and easy.....throw then in the freezer right away after plucking.
But butchering a goat or pig in the back yard is complete stupidity.......not even going to mention how bloody the mess will be...then hang it in a cool place to get the temperature down to a level to kill some of the bacteria associated with butchering.



Guess you're no hunter.

7th trump
7th May 2014, 12:12 PM
Guess you're no hunter.

No, not so much anymore.
More of a fisherman than a hunter these days.
I have a good friend in Blue Grass Iowa that supplies me with all the beef I need.

If i want deer I have two brothers who do all the deer hunting they care to field dress. Between them two and my dad......9 deer last year.

Cebu_4_2
7th May 2014, 12:22 PM
http://youtu.be/DQHVCOT4PPw

First video, isn't this the sandy hoax guy?

Cebu_4_2
7th May 2014, 12:26 PM
Michigan Loses ‘Right To Farm’ This Week: A Farewell To Backyard Chickens and Beekeepers

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Michigan residents lost their “right to farm” this week thanks to a new ruling by the Michigan Commission of Agriculture and Rural Development. Gail Philburn of the Michigan Sierra Club told Michigan Live, the new changes (http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2014/04/holda_change_in_rules_for_mich.html) “effectively remove Right to Farm Act protection for many urban and suburban backyard farmers raising small numbers of animals.” Backyard and urban farming were previously protected by Michigan’s Right to Farm Act. The Commission ruled that the Right to Farm Act protections no longer apply to many homeowners who keep small numbers of livestock.

Kim White, who raises chickens and rabbits, said, “They don’t want us little guys feeding ourselves. They want us to go all to the big farms. They want to do away with small farms and I believe that is what’s motivating it.” The ruling will allow local governments to arbitrarily ban goats, chickens and beehives on any property where there are 13 homes within one eighth mile or a residence within 250 feet of the property, according to Michigan Public Radio. The Right to Farm Act was created in 1981 to protect farmers from the complaints of people from the city who moved to the country and then attempted to make it more urban with anti-farming ordinances. The new changes affect residents of rural Michigan too. It is not simply an urban or suburban concern.

Shady Grove Farm in Gwinn, Michigan is the six and a half acre home to 150 egg-laying hens that provide eggs to a local co-op and a local restaurant. The small Michigan farm also homes sheep for wool and a few turkeys and meat chickens to provide fresh healthy, local poultry. “We produce food with integrity,” Randy Buchler told The Blaze (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/30/state-rule-change-challenges-protection-of-some-residential-farmers/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=ShareButton) about Shady Grove Farm. “Everything we do here is 100 percent natural — we like to say it’s beyond organic. We take a lot of pride and care in what we’re doing here.” Shady Grove Farm was doing its part to bring healthy, local, organic food to the tables of Gwinn residents, and it mirrors the attitudes of hundreds of other small farming operations in Michigan and thousands of others popping up around the nation. The ruling comes within days of a report by The World Health Organization that stated the world is currently in grave danger of entering a post-antibiotic era (http://www.inquisitr.com/1232751/the-who-urgently-warns-post-antibiotic-era-is-almost-upon-us/). The WHO’s director-general Dr. Margaret Chan argued that the antibiotic use in our industrialized food supply is the worst offender adding to the global crisis. “The Michigan Agriculture Commission passed up an opportunity to support one of the hottest trends in food in Michigan – public demand for access to more local, healthy, sustainable food,” Gail Philbin told MLive.

Meanwhile, neighboring Indiana Governor Mike Pence signed Senate Bill 179 a few weeks before which freed up poultry and egg sales from local and state regulation. Yesterday, the USDA Secretary Tom Vilsack announced massive funding to support research about small and medium-sized family farms, such as small farms ability to build-up local and regional economic systems. “There’s a lot of unnecessary legal action being taken against small farms who are doing good things in their communities,” said Randy Buchler, who is also on the board of directors for the Michigan Small Farm Council. The Michigan Small Farm Council (https://www.facebook.com/michigansmallfarmcouncil) actively fought to support Michigan farming freedom, but ultimately the Commission voted to approve the new restrictions.

“Farm Bureau has become another special interest beholden to big business and out of touch with small farmers, and constitutional and property rights of the little guy,” Pine Hallow Farms wrote to the Michigan Small Farm Council. The Michigan Farm Bureau endorsed the new regulatory changes. Matthew Kapp, government relations specialist with Michigan Farm Bureau, told MLive that the members weighed in and felt that people raising livestock need to conform to local zoning ordinances. The Farm Bureau did not feel Michigan’s Right To Farm Act was meant to protect the smaller farms, and ultimately the Michigan Commission of Agriculture and Rural Development agreed.

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1235774/michigan-loses-right-to-farm-this-week-a-farewell-to-backyard-chickens-and-beekeepers/#YxoFtXISvARxVEpj.99

Norweger
7th May 2014, 02:58 PM
The parasite wont allow freedom.

Uncle Salty
7th May 2014, 03:15 PM
So you buy a million dollar home and you neighbor starts raising chickens and you hear chicken sounds from sunrise to sunset and smell chicken shit all day long.

Yep, sounds great to me!

Big difference between that and growing vegetables in your back yard.

hoarder
7th May 2014, 03:20 PM
I think this only applies to chickens goats and bees within 250' of neighbors.

midnight rambler
7th May 2014, 03:24 PM
So you buy a million dollar home and you neighbor starts raising chickens and you hear chicken sounds from sunrise to sunset and smell chicken shit all day long.

Yep, sounds great to me!

Big difference between that and growing vegetables in your back yard.

A handful of backyard chickens aren't going to be creating any odor (definitely less than a few dogs in the backyard which aren't being picked up after), one would have to have a commercial chicken operation to get an odor going on.

pitwab
7th May 2014, 03:47 PM
A handful of backyard chickens aren't going to be creating any odor (definitely less than a few dogs in the backyard which aren't being picked up after), one would have to have a commercial chicken operation to get an odor going on.

Three chickens in a unclean coop will do it. I agree that no one with less than a 1/2 mile square piece of land should be allowed to produce food.

hoarder
7th May 2014, 06:21 PM
Three chickens in a unclean coop will do it. I agree that no one with less than a 1/2 mile square piece of land should be allowed to produce food.That would be alright for communist canada.

Dogman
7th May 2014, 06:30 PM
That would be alright for communist canada.hell they have elbow room, I degress not so much communist, but for sure socialist, just like the us is turning into but I suspect with a twist. Most of the old empire all seem to have gone the same rout or are heading the way the mother country is at this time, England.

Very scarey!

But it will be up to the majority that vote ass hats that have the agenda.

pitwab
7th May 2014, 06:53 PM
I ain't communist or socialist but pragmatic. Just finished building butter from our little farm and will have fresh buttermilk to drink with the Tbone and fried spuds we grew too. If only farmers could produce food then only farmers would survive. I kinda/sorta like that plan.

Dogman
7th May 2014, 07:18 PM
I ain't communist or socialist but pragmatic. Just finished building butter from our little farm and will have fresh buttermilk to drink with the Tbone and fried spuds we grew too. If only farmers could produce food then only farmers would survive. I kinda/sorta like that plan. Unlike some, I am all for those that grow ether in the dirt or raise critters for food. And I really do not care if rural or my next door neighbor in town here, as long as they do not raise hogs everything is good. (get down wind of even a small hog farm and your nose will hide within your skull.

1/2 squair mile?

Very few places these days that that kind of acreage can be had, within most peoples budgets. Know many that make the most out of the postage stamp. 1/8 give or take/ more or less land to raise critters as pets/food and grow veg's.

Cebu_4_2
7th May 2014, 07:39 PM
Three chickens in a unclean coop will do it. I agree that no one with less than a 1/2 mile square piece of land should be allowed to produce food.

320 acres? That's all? You have got to be fucking kidding!

pitwab
7th May 2014, 07:47 PM
Unlike some, I am all for those that grow ether in the dirt or raise critters for food. And I really do not care if rural or my next door neighbor in town here, as long as they do not raise hogs everything is good. (get down wind of even a small hog farm and your nose will hide within your skull.

1/2 squair mile?

Very few places these days that that kind of acreage can be had, within most peoples budgets. Know many that make the most out of the postage stamp. 1/8 give or take/ more or less land to raise critters as pets/food and grow veg's.

I agree with you on all accounts but the pigs. A few pigs in a decent sized pen have little odor. We raise 2-6 a year for our and a few friends consumption. I'll explain my reasons for my thoughts later on the size and why I feel as I do.[gotta let the mass's stew a bit first]




320 acres? That's all? You have got to be fucking kidding!

So you can use the F bomb like a real he man out behind the barn but have absolutely no clue about the size of an acre. Impressive to say the least.

pitwab
7th May 2014, 07:52 PM
Oh yeah the steak me and the boys had for supper, cooked over about the cheapest barbecue made.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh145/pitw75/Making%20food/IMG_0743_zps4303a2dd.jpg

Best steak I've had since the last one.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh145/pitw75/Making%20food/IMG_0744_zps53098318.jpg

You don't need to be rich to eat better than a king. China need not make me any fancy ques to throw in the trash after a season.

Cebu_4_2
7th May 2014, 08:48 PM
So you can use the F bomb like a real he man out behind the barn but have absolutely no clue about the size of an acre. Impressive to say the least.

1/2 mile is 320 acres, WTFuck don't I have a clue about? Your statement is retarded. (no offense to those that are retarded besides poster).

Cebu_4_2
7th May 2014, 08:49 PM
Oh yeah the steak me and the boys had for supper, cooked over about the cheapest barbecue made.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh145/pitw75/Making%20food/IMG_0743_zps4303a2dd.jpg

Best steak I've had since the last one.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh145/pitw75/Making%20food/IMG_0744_zps53098318.jpg

You don't need to be rich to eat better than a king. China need not make me any fancy ques to throw in the trash after a season.

Dried pork with pine dust? Nice garnish.

hoarder
7th May 2014, 08:55 PM
You don't need to be rich to eat better than a king.Because land is a dollar an acre in kanada, anyone can buy 320 acres.

Cebu_4_2
7th May 2014, 08:57 PM
Because land is a dollar an acre in kanada, anyone can buy 320 acres.

I'd rather concentrate on 420...

pitwab
7th May 2014, 09:16 PM
1 square mile of land is 640 acres. Do the math if you are able too. 1/2 square mile is 1/4 of a square mile is the only hint I will give you. My butt has been in the seat of a machine that has covered 1,000,000 acres so I know some of what I speak.
If you wonder why I say only people with enough land should grow animals just read the threads in many forums about how neighbors hate their neighbors because of animals. I believe there is enough land in America for everyone to have about 7.6 acres. I figure by the time people figure out how to feed themselves that number should climb to about 160. Everyone seems to like farmers cause the city slickers are always coming out expecting us to allow them to run all over our land in pursuit of happiness. I did a test a few years back[did a thread on it on a hunting forum] by asking 6 different city slickers if I could hunt or camp on their lot. I met cops and hostility doing this test. Yet they keep coming out and driving in my yard[the ones who ask] like it is their right to be here. If you want the life, pay the price and live it.
I came to this forum hoping to learn something about PM's, but the PM section is little used as a lot who post here seem to want to bitch about things they cannot change or dream the unattainable. Growing three chickens isn't going to feed anyone but a single person who doesn't require many calories so it isn't being self sufficient but rather a hobby.

Cebu_4_2
7th May 2014, 09:55 PM
1 square mile of land is 640 acres. Do the math if you are able too. 1/2 square mile is 1/4 of a square mile is the only hint I will give you. My butt has been in the seat of a machine that has covered 1,000,000 acres so I know some of what I speak.
If you wonder why I say only people with enough land should grow animals just read the threads in many forums about how neighbors hate their neighbors because of animals. I believe there is enough land in America for everyone to have about 7.6 acres. I figure by the time people figure out how to feed themselves that number should climb to about 160. Everyone seems to like farmers cause the city slickers are always coming out expecting us to allow them to run all over our land in pursuit of happiness. I did a test a few years back[did a thread on it on a hunting forum] by asking 6 different city slickers if I could hunt or camp on their lot. I met cops and hostility doing this test. Yet they keep coming out and driving in my yard[the ones who ask] like it is their right to be here. If you want the life, pay the price and live it.
I came to this forum hoping to learn something about PM's, but the PM section is little used as a lot who post here seem to want to bitch about things they cannot change or dream the unattainable. Growing three chickens isn't going to feed anyone but a single person who doesn't require many calories so it isn't being self sufficient but rather a hobby.


The hobby comes from enlightening those that are in the know that 320 acres = a 1/2 square mile. you must have been family to get that job. You must know the new math that just doesn't work or are plain fucking stupid. I opt for the latter since you just joined and are a reinstatement of a former member... or are just stupid. I'll stick with that.

old steel
7th May 2014, 10:33 PM
Ok just to confirm, a 1/2 mile square = 160 acres or 1/4 section.

A section or 640 acres of dry land down the road from us sold last fall for $3000.00 @ acre so just under 2 million dollars.

Acreages go for a lot more. I saw a 16 acre parcel for sale off a secondary highway with no house or buildings or trees, just bare land and they wanted $160,000.00 for it.

Dunno if they got it but it sold so they probably did or very close to it.

They aren't making any more land, anywhere.

Santa
8th May 2014, 06:18 AM
Three chickens in a unclean coop will do it. I agree that no one with less than a 1/2 mile square piece of land should be allowed to produce food.

Rug rats stink more than chickens by a mile. I agree that no one with less than 10 square miles of land should be allowed to raise em. Filthy critters. They go around crapping their britches for years.