Modern large city police training video

[midnight rambler]

The APD police academy lasts 8 months, it only takes 3 months to train a Marine.

A well informed friend mentioned to me that in this video the training includes the policy of 'shoot first, this is war'. I've only watched a few minutes, it's been eye-popping so far, it appears the training officers are unable to train their troops without verbal abuse including plenty of profanity (actually described in the video as 'frequent profanity' and one wonders why street cops act the same way toward lowly 'civilians') -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9QEg4VXliE

[midnight rambler]

Hey Hitch, this series of training vids clearly shows the mindset instilled in today's cops, what you at times consider 'exemplary Boy Scout/good guy types'.

[Hitch]

Hey Hitch, this series of training vids clearly shows the mindset instilled in today's cops, what you at times consider 'exemplary Boy Scout/good guy types'.

That video is pretty accurate man. In my academy, 33 started and 21 graduated. I'm surprised we even had that high of a number.

I had one instructor punch me in the eye during a training. As my eye swelled shut, he looked at me and yelled how hitting in the eye is not allowed and asked "Do You Understand?"

Sir, yes sir. That's what academy is, beating you up the whole time while you say Yes Sir and Yes Ma'am.

[midnight rambler]

I had one instructor punch me in the eye during a training. As my eye swelled shut, he looked at me and yelled how hitting in the eye is not allowed and asked "Do You Understand?"

I submit this is evidence you were trained by mentally unbalanced sadists with the intention of creating even more mentally unbalanced sadists/bullies. I'm so shocked! /sarc

[Hitch]

I submit this is evidence you were trained by the mentally unbalanced. I'm shocked. /sarc

Trained by some hardcore dudes, that's for sure. They want you to prove that you can fight through the toughest of situations, and they will test you. I'm sure you know this, why have me point it out?

Not sure what your agenda is with this thread, you know all this...

[EE_]

The APD police academy lasts 8 months, it only takes 3 months to train a Marine.

A well informed friend mentioned to me that in this video the training includes the policy of 'shoot first, this is war'. I've only watched a few minutes, it's been eye-popping so far, it appears the training officers are unable to train their troops without verbal abuse including plenty of profanity (actually described in the video as 'frequent profanity' and one wonders why street cops act the same way toward lowly 'civilians') -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9QEg4VXliE

I liked the drill where they had to tackle frail old people to the ground, and the doughnut shop drill was pretty good too.

The part that was interesting was where they are taught how to single out victims (hard working class people) that were most likely to be able to pay their fines and court costs and how to be sneaky enough to catch them doing something wrong.

Oh!, and how to always cite the victim with more offenses then necessary, that way they can give them a break on a couple...and the victim feels good driving away not getting ticketed for all offenses...but still has had his/her pockets emptied. lol

The trick questioning techniques part was kind of boring...everyone is on to them now anyway.

[midnight rambler]

This friend was pulled over during the day six months ago on a remote, rural county road and THREE deputies (one in a marked cruiser, two in an unmarked car) drew their guns on him when he hadn't been doing anything wrong. It went like this:

Deputy: Put both hands on the steering wheel!

my friend puts both hands on the steering wheel

Deputy: Now turn off the car

my friend: I can't turn off the car now, you told me to place both hands on the steering wheel - which is it?? (as in "I know I'm being set-up to get shot so I just won't move." - "He made a furtive movement after he was instructed to place both hands on the wheel so we had to shoot.")

[Hatha Sunahara]

There seems to be some equivocation about purpose. In one breath there was a claim that their fubction was to 'serve' the people of Austin. And at another point, when they were speaking about their numbers--2 officers per thousand, there was a message that this is what it takes to 'manage' a population. So, which is it? Are they serving the population, or managing it?

The training appears to be designed for 'elite' military units--like special ops forces, and that explains the 8 months duration. It is designed to cull out all but the extremely obedient, and anyone who might deviate even slightly from policies set by superiors. Constantly asking them if they want to succeed, with the message that you adopt our way of thinking if you want to succeed. You cannot be an individual and be a cop. I'm sure it is like this in every police department in America. They are the enforcers of the will of whoever is issuing the orders, Militarized. I'm sure by the time they finish training, their oath of office will be just a bunch of words that are a formality to getting 0n the payroll.

I wonder how the instructors are trained and where. My guess is they go to Israel for their training.


Hatha

[Hitch]

There seems to be some equivocation about purpose. In one breath there was a claim that their fubction was to 'serve' the people of Austin. And at another point, when they were speaking about their numbers--2 officers per thousand, there was a message that this is what it takes to 'manage' a population. So, which is it? Are they serving the population, or managing it?

The training appears to be designed for 'elite' military units--like special ops forces, and that explains the 8 months duration. It is designed to cull out all but the extremely obedient, and anyone who might deviate even slightly from policies set by superiors. Constantly asking them if they want to succeed, with the message that you adopt our way of thinking if you want to succeed. You cannot be an individual and be a cop. I'm sure it is like this in every police department in America. They are the enforcers of the will of whoever is issuing the orders, Militarized. I'm sure by the time they finish training, their oath of office will be just a bunch of words that are a formality to getting 0n the payroll.

I wonder how the instructors are trained and where. My guess is they go to Israel for their training.


Hatha

I will never forget the day I graduated academy and was sworn in. Our lead instructor, whom we grew to fear, looked us over and said "you have just joined a gang".

[Hillbilly]

I will never forget the day I graduated academy and was sworn in. Our lead instructor, whom we grew to fear, looked us over and said "you have just joined a gang".

you must be so proud
SARC

[Santa]

I will never forget the day I graduated academy and was sworn in. Our lead instructor, whom we grew to fear, looked us over and said "you have just joined a gang".

Why'd you quit the gang, Hitch?

[EE_]

I will never forget the day I graduated academy and was sworn in. Our lead instructor, whom we grew to fear, looked us over and said "you have just joined a gang".

I'm sorry Hitch, no disrespect, but this acknowledgement did not help your case at all.

Every gang I've ever known or heard of, always puts other gang members before anyone else, period!

So, what we have is a 'gang' of thugs trained to hurt people, there job is to protect corporate interests, they have the power to take any life they see fit and and get away with it...and, other 'gang' members will support and cover for them no matter what.

And we aren't in that 'gang'!

What's not to like about this 'gang'?

Please stop beating this dead horse...you will not change any minds about this gang at this forum.
I'm sure there are several police gang sites you can visit where the gang members love having their ego's stroked on what good guys they are.

http://img.pandawhale.com/88611-beating-dead-horse-gif-South-P-ZqEc.gif

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/gang
gang 1 (găng)
n.
1. A group of criminals or hoodlums who band together for mutual protection and profit.

List of gangs in the United States
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Notable criminally active gangs in the United States include:

The Police

African American/Black
Almighty Black P. Stone Nation (People)
Almighty Vice Lord Nation (People)
Four Corner Hustlers
Black Disciples (Folk)
Black Guerilla Family
Bloods
Black P. Stones (Jungles)
Bounty Hunter Bloods
Double II Set
Piru Street Boys
Sex Money Murda
United Blood Nation
Crips
East Nashville Crips
Du Roc Crips
Grape Street Watts Crips
Rollin' 30s Harlem Crips
Rollin 60 Neighborhood Crips
Venice Shoreline Crips
D.C. Blacks
Gangster Disciples (Folk)
OutLaw Gangster Disciples
Hidden Valley Kings
KUMI 415
Mickey Cobras (People)
Philadelphia Black Mafia
Zoe Pound Gang
Albanian[edit]Albanian Mafia
Albanian Boys gang
Defunct:

Rudaj Organization

Irish
Irish Mob
K&A Gang
Westies
Winter Hill Gang
Defunct:

19th Street Gang
Bottoms Gang
Bowe Brothers
Charlestown Mob
Dead Rabbits
The Ducky Boys gang
Egan's Rats
Forty Thieves (New York gang)
Gopher Gang
Grady Gang
Gustin Gang
Hogan Gang
Hudson Dusters
Kerryonians
Live Oak Boys
Marginals
Mullen Gang
Potashes (gang)
Ragen's Colts
Rhodes Gang
Roach Guards
Swamp Angels
Valley Gang
White Hand Gang
Yakey Yakes

Italian
116th Street Crew
American Mafia
Bonanno crime family
Bufalino crime family
Buffalo crime family
Chicago Outfit
Cleveland crime family
Colombo crime family
DeCavalcante crime family
Detroit Partnership
Gambino crime family
Genovese crime family
Kansas City crime family
Los Angeles crime family
Lucchese crime family
Milwaukee crime family
New Orleans crime family
Patriarca crime family
Philadelphia crime family
Pittsburgh crime family
Porrello crime family
San Francisco crime family
Scarfo crime family
St. Louis crime family
Trafficante crime family
The Jersey Crew
Ozone Park Boys
South Brooklyn Boys
The Vario Crew
Defunct:

Genna crime family
Morello crime family
Philadelphia poison ring
Rochester crime family
Sciortino crime family
Denver crime family
Hispanic/Latin[edit]18th Street gang (Mexican)
Association Ñeta (Puerto Rican)
Barrio Azteca (Mexican)
Cali Cartel (Colombian)
Dominicans Don't Play (Dominican)
Fresno Bulldogs (Mexican)
Ghetto Brothers (Puerto Rican)
Gulf Cartel (Mexican)
Jheri Curls (Dominican)
Juárez Cartel (Mexican)
La Raza Nation (Mexican)
Latin Eagles (Puerto Rican)
Latin Kings (Puerto Rican/People)
Los Zetas (Mexican)
Mara Salvatrucha (Salvadoran)
Maniac Latin Disciples (Puerto Rican/Folk)
Medellín Cartel (Colombian)
Mexican Mafia (Mexican)
MS-13 (Salvadoran)
Norteños (Mexican)
Puro Tango Blast (Mexican)
Sinaloa Cartel (Mexican)
Spanish Gangster Disciples (Mexican/Folk)
Sureños (Mexican)
38th Street gang
The Avenues
Clanton 14
Culver City Boys 13
El Monte Flores 13
Logan Heights Gang
Tooner Ville Rifa 13
Varrio Nuevo Estrada
Santa Monica 13
Tijuana Cartel (Mexican)
Trinitarios (Dominican)
Marielitos (Cuban)
Middle Eastern[edit]Armenian Power (Armenian American)
Assyrian/Chaldean Mafia (Assyrian/Chaldean)
Israeli mafia (Israeli American)
Defunct:

Jewish Mafia (Jewish American)
TAP Boyz (Palestinian American)
Native American[edit]Indian Posse
native pride

Prison
211 Crew (white supremacist)
Aryan Brotherhood (white supremacist)
Aryan Circle (white supremacist)
European Kindred (white supremacist)
Public Enemy No. 1
Dead Man Inc.
Black Guerrilla Family
Bloods
Crips
D.C. Blacks
KUMI 415
Folk Nation
People Nation
Mara Salvatrucha
Mexican Mafia
Mexikanemi
Netas
Nuestra Familia
Puro Tango Blast
Texas Syndicate
Trinitario
Zoe Pound Gang
Russian[edit]Russian Mafia
Solntsevskaya Bratva
Polish mob



White/Other
Aryan Brotherhood (white supremacist)
Aryan Circle (white supremacist)
Aryan Nation (white supremacist)
Hammerskins (white supremacist)
Ku Klux Klan (white supremacist)
Nazi Lowriders (white supremacist)
Public Enemy No.1 (white supremacist)
Volksfront (white supremacist)
South Side Popes
Chicago Gaylords
Almighty Saints
Juggalo gangs
Freight Train Riders of America
Dixie mafia

[Tumbleweed]

That was a pretty good video and I saw future police being trained when I took a truck driving course. I went to a vocational school and the truck driver trainees would often walk past the police trainees. They were teaching the police trainees to be assholes and we would be meeting them later on the hi ways.

I was neutral on cops before I started driving truck but a few months later I was hatin their guts. I met a couple of the cops in Texas where these guys in the video were being trained. I could see right away that I had to shut up, look straight ahead and play along with them while they justified their existance.

They pulled me over just because I was driving a truck and because they could. There's a thick book of rules and regulations for trucks and they can always find something to write you up for.

When ever I had to deal with them either at a Dot scale or on the hi way it was the same feeling as when I was dealing with a rattle snake at home. You have to be damn careful when you're around them. SOB's

[midnight rambler]

They pulled me over just because I was driving a truck and because they could.

If one is behind the wheel of a medium duty truck or larger (or even a dually pickup with a loaded gooseneck) around these parts it's a matter of WHEN not IF one will get pulled over - no matter HOW careful and 'compliant with the *traffic laws*' one is.

[Hitch]

I'm sorry Hitch, no disrespect, but this acknowledgement did not help your case at all.

EE, for the record, it's not about having a "case". I don't want to come off like I'm trying to sell some idea. I posted that gang quote, because it is true, that's all.

For what it's worth, the biggest thing I disliked about LE, was that you go around butting into other folk's business. They train you to try and catch people committing crimes, real crimes, yes that's good and if you can prevent a crime from happening, even better.

A live and let live philosophy doesn't fit well with LE.

[Hatha Sunahara]

'Law Enforcement' is a generous term for the police. The legal system is so corrupt, that it makes everyone a criminal--regrdless of how righteously you live your life. The police are more about population control than they are about keeping the peace or catching criminals. They are also revenue enhancers for citing violators of policies that involve 'fines'. They are, effectively, enemies of freedom, and agents of tyranny. All of us run a huge risk with such a monstrous gang in our midst. It's not enough to be careful when you are around them. Because they are unaccountable, and cover for each other, they are able to commit any crime they please without consequence, and many of them do just that. They'll shoot your dog just to demonstrate how untouchable they are. You have to be lucky as well as careful in any encounter with the police. They are no less dangerous than the criminals which they pretend to protect you from--maybe even more dangerous. Criminals are at least accountable for their crimes if they are caught, but not cops. If you can avoid them entirely you are doing all you can to stay safe.


Hatha

[Hitch]

Hatha, the cops navigate the gray areas of the law. You have to know these areas. To fight crime, it's not so black and white.

You have an amazing mind and your posts I truly learn from.

[Cebu_4_2]

I am glad I live in a small town where the PIGS are scared of me. I had a B&E they asked permission to come on my property and again to access my home. What about that Pete?