Time to look at the big picture.

[old steel]

We must understand our Adversary.


"'I want to appeal to your analytical mind, ' don Juan said. 'Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the contradiction between the intelligence of man the engineer and the stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory behavior. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of beliefs, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal.'

"'But how can they do this, don Juan?' I asked, somehow angered further by what he was saying. 'Do they whisper all that in our ears while we are asleep?'

"'No, they don't do it that way. That's idiotic!' don Juan said, smiling. 'They are infinitely more efficient and organized than that. In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver - stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now. "

-- Carlos Castaneda

[woodman]

I read the books when I was a kid in the early 70's. I was entranced by the idea of the shaman and his potions.. I wonder if any of it was true or the whole thing made up. There is a lot of truth behind the rhetoric though.

[7th trump]

Carlos Castaned huh?

I'll up you one Old Steel with wisdom I use every single day of my life !

God on Mathew 10:16


"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."

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[old steel]

They are spiritual beings and use their chosen earth bound human slaves that we call the Ruling Elite to do their bidding. They not only use us for labor and tools, but also for food by feeding off of our spiritual energy.

If we look at the pyramid on the dollar bill, they are the "All Seeing Eye" on the capstone floating above the pyramid, separate and apart from the dense physical 3D human beings below. They have been here as long as humanity. In fact, they genetically created us. As a slave race, just as Sitchin told us. We truly are their cattle.

There is no escaping this reality after reaching a certain level of knowledge or wisdom. They have no intention of ever freeing us. EVER. Our only hope of escape is to understand our adversary. To understand who and what we really are. Then we can act through this understanding to free ourselves.

"We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest."

-- Carlos Castañeda

[singular_me]

that is what I have been saying in the epic thread several times, it is a derision to think we can get rid of them without learning everything about them and what they know... the willingness to learn without fear above all, because fear will prevent understanding.

Knowledge is a give and take, a zero sum game. There is nothing to win out there but freedom from coercion and more importantly feeling free from within

Every time I think of Humanity as a whole, the divide and conquer Matrix, it is like staring into the abyss.

the fact that Rh- blood doesnt have the monkey gene can only be explained by a genetic manipulation that has taken place several millennia ago by an advanced civilization or from outer space.









There is no escaping this reality after reaching a certain level of knowledge or wisdom. They have no intention of ever freeing us. EVER. Our only hope of escape is to understand our adversary. To understand who and what we really are. Then we can act through this understanding to free ourselves.

"We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest."

-- Carlos Castañeda

[aeondaze]

that is what I have been saying in the epic thread several times, it is a derision to think we can get rid of them without learning everything about them and what they know... the willingness to learn without fear above all, because fear will prevent understanding.

What is it they know again...? NOTHING that we don't. Your suposed 'sacred' and 'eosteric' contains nothing that current mathematic and scientific disciplines don't contain. FACT. You can give it all the emotive lables you like, but the truth is you FAILED to provide one scintila of evidence of this fabled knowledge.


the fact that Rh- blood doesnt have the monkey gene can only be explained by a genetic manipulation that has taken place several millennia ago by an advanced civilization or from outer space.

Again this is NOT fact. It is BULLSHIT. 99.9% of Rh- people have the c antigen which relates them back to our primate ancestors. FACT

D− C+ E+ c+ e+ (RhD−) dce/dCE rrY 0.0039
dCe/dcE r’r’’ 0.0234
D− C+ E+ c+ e− (RhD−) dcE/dCE r’’rY 0.0001
D− C+ E+ c− e+ (RhD−) dCe/dCE r’rY 0.0001
D− C+ E+ c− e− (RhD−) dCE/dCE rYrY <0.0001
D− C+ E− c+ e+ (RhD−) dce/dCe rr’ 0.7644
D− C+ E− c− e+ (RhD−) dCe/dCe r’r’ 0.0097
D− C− E+ c+ e+ (RhD−) dce/dcE rr’’ 0.9235
D− C− E+ c+ e− (RhD−) dcE/dcE r’’r’’ 0.0141
D− C− E− c+ e+ (RhD−) dce/dce rr 15.1020

None of this has anything to with the works of Castenada anyhow. I should know, in my naive days I read EVERY SINGLE BOOK, even The Art of Dreaming, which is a great read, for a work of fiction. I particularly enjoyed the part about The Death Defier.

[7th trump]

that is what I have been saying in the epic thread several times, it is a derision to think we can get rid of them without learning everything about them and what they know... the willingness to learn without fear above all, because fear will prevent understanding.

Knowledge is a give and take, a zero sum game. There is nothing to win out there but freedom from coercion and more importantly feeling free from within

Every time I think of Humanity as a whole, the divide and conquer Matrix, it is like staring into the abyss.

the fact that Rh- blood doesnt have the monkey gene can only be explained by a genetic manipulation that has taken place several millennia ago by an advanced civilization or from outer space.

Theres two people on this board that you can write off as officially whackooooooooo!

[singular_me]

read the OP, the OP and I share the same ideas... debunk the OP instead

here is an idea: go and learn about Plato or write a book to deconstruct and debunk his theses. You might become successful

if you cant see all the scams and hoaxes of our world, no wonder you talk the way you do... begin to start digging the real issues and the lies of the entire academia (see list below)

(search GSUS for more details)
Nuclear energy fallacies, oceans are dying since fukushima, air radioactive
Bioengineering destroying/poisoning the food supply
geoengineering altering the climate
multiculturism to spread racism
feminism to destroy family values and relationships
Vaccines as neurotoxic and causing learning disorders in children
Media monopoly reporting disinfo and distractions 24/7
fraudulent central banking
Military complex racket
Big Pharma Inc
Fracking and the pollution of world aquifers
chemtrails, spread chemical or biological agents to alter our DNA or viruses
Archeology/History falsification/concealment throughout the ages
Food waste amounting to almost 50% of world food production

Until you start pointing to data about root causes of humanity' sufferings and conspiracies behind, you and I have no business. If they can poison us with chemtrails, GMOs, Neurotoxic vaccines, Bioengineering etc.... WHY on earth should I trust the biology cartel that is teaming up with the archeology cartel to hide the origins of mankind?

L@@@K at my list above: I can you spell *i-n-t-e-n-t-e-d...g-r-a-n-d... s-c-a-l-e.. g-e-n-o-c-i-d-e* !?!? can you spell that, can't you... or can you ??? You are the one defending fabled knowledge





What is it they know again...? NOTHING that we don't. Your suposed 'sacred' and 'eosteric' contains nothing that current mathematic and scientific disciplines don't contain. FACT. You can give it all the emotive lables you like, but the truth is you FAILED to provide one scintila of evidence of this fabled knowledge.

Again this is NOT fact. It is BULLSHIT. 99.9% of Rh- people have the c antigen which relates them back to our primate ancestors. FACT

None of this has anything to with the works of Castenada anyhow. I should know, in my naive days I read EVERY SINGLE BOOK, even The Art of Dreaming, which is a great read, for a work of fiction. I particularly enjoyed the part about The Death Defier.

[Santa]

Theres two people on this board that you can write off as officially whackooooooooo!

OK. That would be you and who else? :D

[singular_me]

while I agree with the chosen excerpts, that doesnt mean that would agree with the author's entire work. Since he has had many experiences with peyote, he has many detractors and followers on the net. Very first time I heard of him but have no time to investigate his experiences into mind expanding. Just made a quick search.

Before we start criticizing him, lets keep the following in the back of our minds: the evidence of mushrooms in early Christianity. I expect some to be upset at me for pointing this out but this is **history** above all... history concealed. Was the Bible written or/and interpreted by scholars on mushrooms? Since hallucinogenics have been used by all cultures and for spiritual purposes, it is up to us to delve into this very fact.

The Pharmacratic Inquisition (300,000+ views)
Thousands of years ago, in the pre monarchic era, sacred plants and other entheogenic substances where politically correct and highly respected for their ability to bring forth the divine, Yahweh, God, The Great Spirit, etc., by the many cultures who used them. The Church’s inquisitions extracted this sacred knowledge from the local Shamans who were then exterminated…

(Excerpt from gnosticmedia.com)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyQOeiY11RA&list=TLUMrpdmNiT7HKITzI6sAmaRXYwt557BCa

[Cebu_4_2]

Have to agree, fluoride calcifies the pituitary gland so we can't experience the divine. This could be why 100 years ago there was God in most families and also lots of children. Same thing in 3rd world countries, no fluoride and very christian and also large families. But that also works against them because of overpopulation by design.

[Horn]

They want you living in a world where you've been under pressure for so long that only even more pain at the end is a self generated prophecy necessary to make the jump.

Many mummers alleviate the pain by repeating long held notions in circular fashion to create a certain level of enacted numbness to deaden the nerve endings.

[govcheetos]

Theres two people on this board that you can write off as officially whackooooooooo!

write off??.......officially??