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singular_me
20th May 2014, 04:36 PM
one question: for how long has this been going on?
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Coke to drop flame retardant from drinks
By Patrick M. Sheridan
May 6
Coca-Cola has already removed from Powerade a chemical that is linked with fire retardants. It will remove it from all drinks.
Brominated vegetable oil, also known as BVO, contains bromine which is used as a flame retardant in plastics, upholstered furniture, and some clothing for children and is not approved for use in foods in Japan and the European Union.
Coca-Cola uses the chemical in Fanta, Fresca and some citrus flavored fountain drinks.
Kavanagh petitioned Pepsico (PEP, Fortune 500) to remove BVO from her favorite drink Gatorade. The company relented after the petition garnered momentum and 200,000 people signed it. Pepsi still uses the chemical in Mountain Dew and other products. A spokeswoman said the company is working to remove it from the rest of its products.
Kavanagh added Powerade to the petition, which received 59,000 signatures. Coca-Cola dropped BVO from Powerade's fruit punch and strawberry lemonade flavored drinks in "the last month or two," according to a spokesman.
According to the Mayo Clinic's website, BVO has been linked to memory loss and skin and nerve problems when consumed in large amounts.
Coke reiterated that its drinks are safe, saying "All of our beverages, including those with BVO, are safe and always have been -- and comply with all regulations in the countries where they are sold. The safety and quality of our products is our highest priority."
http://money.cnn.com/2014/05/05/news/companies/coca-cola-bvo/
osoab
20th May 2014, 04:55 PM
and comply with all regulations in the countries where they are sold.
No mention that they buy the regulations they want for their products?
singular_me
20th May 2014, 05:08 PM
The carbonation in all soft drinks causes calcium loss in the bones through a three-stage process:
The carbonation irritates the stomach.
The stomach "cures" the irritation the only way it knows how. It adds the only antacid at its disposal: calcium. It gets this from the blood.
The blood, now low on calcium, replenishes its supply from the bones. If it did not do this, muscular and brain function would be severely impaired.
But, the story doesn't end there. Another problem with most soft drinks is they also contain phosphoric acid (not the same as the carbonation, which is carbon dioxide mixed with the water). This substance also causes a drawdown on the store of calcium.
So, soft drinks soften your bones (actually, they make them weak and brittle) in three ways:
Carbonation reduces the calcium in the bones.
Phosphoric acid reduces the calcium in the bones.
The beverage replaces a calcium-containing alternative, such as milk or water. Milk and water are not excellent calcium sources, but they are sources.
Diabetes in a can
The picture gets worse when you add sugar to the soft drink. The sugar, dissolved in liquid, is quickly carried to the bloodstream, where its presence in overload quantities signals the pancreas to go into overdrive. The pancreas has no way of knowing if this sugar inrush is a single dose or the front-end of a sustained dose. The assumption in the body's chemical controls is the worst-case scenario. To prevent nerve damage from oxidation, the pancreas pumps out as much insulin as it can. Even so, it may not prevent nerve damage.
But, this heroic effort of the pancreas has a hefty downside. The jolt of insulin causes the body to reduce the testosterone in the bloodstream, and to depress further production of it. In both men and women, testosterone is the hormone that controls the depositing of calcium in the bones. You can raise testosterone through weight-bearing exercise, but if you are chemically depressing it via massive sugar intake (it takes very small quantities of sugar to constitute a massive intake, because refined sugar is not something the human body is equipped to handle), then your body won't add calcium to the bones.
Add this to what we discussed above, and you can see that drinking sweetened colas is a suicidal endeavor. And now you know why bone damage formerly apparent only in the very old is now showing up in teenagers.
Cancer in a can
In the spring of 2005, research showed a strong correlation between esophageal cancer and the drinking of carbonated beverages. We aren't providing extensive detail here yet, because the subject is still rolling through the medical community. Basically, it works like this:
You drink soda.
It makes you burp (acid reflux, actually).
The burping carries acid into the esophagus, causing lesions.
The lesions become cancerous.
So, maybe it's not so bad if you sip sodas instead of guzzle them. By the time this issue settles out through double blind studies (rather than statistical analysis only), that is probably what researchers will conclude. It's common sense.
Of course, the softdrink companies have conducted their own flawed studies using flawed methods to obtain the flawed results they want. This way, they can deny that their toxic products also cause esophageal cancer in addition to other diseases their beverages cause. I wonder if these folks have flawed sleep at night, or if they are just psychopathic?
Do a Yahoo or Google search on softdrinks + esophageal cancer, and you'll get several thousand pages of results. Most of the articles say softdrinks "may" cause esophageal cancer. And that's true--in the sense that lying down on a railroad track "may" get you run over by a train or holding a revolver with one bullet in it and pulling the trigger "may" blow your brains out. It's a game of chance. How many chances do you want to take?
You can search online for data on the number of esophageal cancer cases per year and the startling increase in this cancer occurring with the huge ramp-up in soft drink consumption. This disease was unheard of two generations ago--now, it's common. You can also search for the source reports and articles. But, that's not really necessary because basic science is at work here:
Mechanical damage to cells is a huge risk factor for cancer. It's why asbestos particles, for example, cause lung cancer.
Soft drinks cause acid reflux (stomach acid rising up past the esophageal valve). This is more pronounced when the body is horizontal (as in sleeping), but the sheer volume of soft drinks consumed in the USA means the acid reflux is well past the danger point. Any time you ingest a gassy drink, you are going to get belching--and acid into the esophagus. How much is too much? The research doesn't say where the limit is--it only shows that most Americans are far, far, far past it.
Stomach acid dissolves tissue--that's its purpose. The stomach lining does not extend into the esophagus, so the lower esophagus gets damaged by acid far more frequently in soft drink users than in non soft drink users. This results in a radical increase in cell mutations, along with a far higher level of free radicals.
This isn't an attack on the Coca-Cola or Pepsi corporations. It's a revealing of the truth about all carbonated beverages. This has been widely reported in many authoritative sources.
Remember, soft drinks kill.
http://www.supplecity.com/articles/softdrinksunsafe.htm
Cebu_4_2
20th May 2014, 06:43 PM
The only soda I ever drink is Mexican Coke. No HFCS it says sugar instead. Stuff is night and day to the regular crap I can't drink here. Also only available in glass bottles.
Ares
20th May 2014, 08:07 PM
The stomach "cures" the irritation the only way it knows how. It adds the only antacid at its disposal: calcium. It gets this from the blood.
That's not the only antacid at the stomachs disposal. The body will also use magnesium if it has adequate amounts in the blood stream.
Uncle Salty
20th May 2014, 08:14 PM
Water also puts out fires. Are they going to replace that?
Hitch
20th May 2014, 08:52 PM
Singular, what about carbonated water? Does that lead to low calcium levels. I don't drink any sodas, but I do like carbonated water with ice as a refreshing drink.
I stopped drinking coke years ago when I learned Denver Police, keep 2 litres in their patrol cars. Not to drink, but to kill anything in blood if they come in contact with on scene.
I used coke to clean up thick oil stained on cement. The cement was stained, nothing worked. Coke did, took that oil right off.
singular_me
21st May 2014, 04:42 AM
yes I heard a few times what you say about coke. I dont drink any sodas either. maybe 3 or 4 times a year I have a gulp from a friends glass but every time the chemical after taste reminds me why I made this choice 20 years ago.
Carbonated water is purported to prevent calcium absorption... but it all depends on how much you drink of it.
I like san pellegrino in glass bottle and drink one big bottle a week... which is a little bit less than a quart. (750ml)
I make my own sparkle-free lemonade, with maple syrup, limes and well water when I really want something different.
govcheetos
24th May 2014, 12:55 PM
The only soda I ever drink is Mexican Coke. No HFCS it says sugar instead. Stuff is night and day to the regular crap I can't drink here. Also only available in glass bottles.
I've always heard the Mexican stuff has been stepped on a bunch with borax and laxative powder.
Cebu_4_2
24th May 2014, 01:36 PM
I've always heard the Mexican stuff has been stepped on a bunch with borax and laxative powder.
Funny, reg soda with HFCS gives me the shits but not the Mex Coke.
Dogman
24th May 2014, 01:41 PM
Carbon dioxide is a real flame killer/retardant.
Better get rid of it also, so what if the drinks will taste flat as hell.
Better yet ban carbon dioxide,
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BrewTech
24th May 2014, 08:28 PM
Beer is also carbonated...however it contains significant amounts of Ca, Mg, and Si, (with other minerals and trace nutrients) which promote bone health.
Soft drinks bad. Beer good
Beer is food.
Dogman
24th May 2014, 08:34 PM
Beer is also carbonated...however it contains significant amounts of Ca, Mg, and Si, (with other minerals and trace nutrients) which promote bone health.
Soft drinks bad. Beer good
Beer is food.
Historically you are very correct! Also used as money back in the days, along with salt and garlic.
For some here, ever wonder where the term "Worth their weight in salt" or salary comes from? The root is salt, it was equal or higher in value than gold in the times.
Garlic deserves its own thread.
Lesson, gold and silver is rare, but common minerals have and still have potential of having higher values depending on the times.
No refrigeration, salt will preserve meat and other foods for later use, where gold and or silver will not!
As an example!
A rich man can starve to death if wealth is counted in gold and silver and is his only goal, but a poor man of the land will eat and prosper if he has salt.
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