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Hitch
24th May 2014, 08:59 AM
I am shocked this happened in Santa Barbara.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27556097

A gunman has killed six people in drive-by shootings near the Californian city of Santa Barbara, US police say.

The shootings took place late on Friday in Isla Vista near the University of California-Santa Barbara campus.

The suspected gunman was found dead in his car with a bullet wound. It is unclear whether it was self-inflicted.

Police are looking into a possible link with a Youtube video in which a young man complains of repeated rejection by women and threatens to take revenge.
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I heard shots, scream, pain”

Michael Vitek Eyewitness

Seven other people are in hospital, and being treated for bullet wounds.

The shootings occurred at several sites in the town of Isla Vista, and there were nine crime scenes, police said.

Witnesses described seeing a black BMW speeding through the streets, with shots being fired at people.

Student Michael Vitek told local TV station KEYT he had seen one woman being fatally struck and another critically injured. "I heard shots, scream, pain," he said

Hitch
24th May 2014, 09:01 AM
This is fucking creepy. The killers last video. I could only watch 1 minute of this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbv5Vpa-B-0

Dogman
24th May 2014, 09:07 AM
7 dead

Hitch
24th May 2014, 09:17 AM
Here's another article with a video. The attack occured on young folks who just graduated from college and were celebrating. This is so sad, kids just graduating with their whole lives ahead of them...

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/24/justice/california-shooting-deaths/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Horn
24th May 2014, 09:29 AM
Humanity was correct in its scum assessment.

EE_
24th May 2014, 09:29 AM
Here's another article with a video. The attack occured on young folks who just graduated from college and were celebrating. This is so sad, kids just graduating with their whole lives ahead of them...

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/24/justice/california-shooting-deaths/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

This is barely in the news. How many have to die to make headline news like in a theater or in school shooting?

singular_me
24th May 2014, 09:30 AM
he said that he didnt have any success with women and was still a virgin at age 22... strange, he is rather very handsome, IMHO

but I expect to hear from the media that he forgot to take his meds or never took them

possibly a mind-controlled victim to seize guns?

EE_
24th May 2014, 09:41 AM
This is fucking creepy. The killers last video. I could only watch 1 minute of this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbv5Vpa-B-0

Yep, pretty sick

midnight rambler
24th May 2014, 10:16 AM
he said that he didnt have any success with women and was still a virgin at age 22... strange, he is rather very handsome, IMHO

but I expect to hear from the media that he forgot to take his meds or never took them

possibly a mind-controlled victim to seize guns?

This kid suffered some issue/disability which drove girls away from him* and that disability also prevented him from seeing that he suffered from this disability - IOW he suffered from anosognosia.

OR

It was a case of mind control - imo.

*as indicated by his arrogance in his assertion twice that he was 'perfect' and manifesting that evil laugh of his

midnight rambler
24th May 2014, 10:36 AM
Is this the kid? Looks like him to me (and he has his shades hanging from his shirt like in the now removed video). A kid who lived a life of privilege yet somehow couldn't get laid?? ??? Certainly sounds to me like something about his personality drove girls away from him -

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/941503_4270078329087_1481512828_n-620x347.jpg

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/05/24/extreme-caution-this-frightening-youtube-video-may-be-the-manifesto-of-santa-barbara-mass-slayer/

midnight rambler
24th May 2014, 10:55 AM
"I am so awesome." "...in all my magnificence..."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4CressilIo

midnight rambler
24th May 2014, 11:07 AM
I'm thinking this may be why he turned off girls. I'm thinking he just didn't give himself enough time to find the one girl who wouldn't have been put off by his creepiness and high weirdness. She's out there somewhere. Yeah, you better believe it.


"I'm awesome. Yeah, you better believe it."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIwOKHZ_Bkc

midnight rambler
24th May 2014, 11:20 AM
No wonder. This is a classic case of anosognosia.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBvaVWdJRQM

Hitch
24th May 2014, 11:35 AM
No wonder. This is a classic case of anosognosia.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBvaVWdJRQM

It makes you wonder if this guy has even asked a girl out. It's like in his mind he just deserves things handed to him. I wonder how the parents never saw how messed up their kid was. You can tell just by looking at him he's nuts.

singular_me
24th May 2014, 11:38 AM
considering that dark rituals involve the upper class, elite/rich kids are more likely to be chosen as mind control targets




Is this the kid? Looks like him to me (and he has his shades hanging from his shirt like in the now removed video). A kid who lived a life of privilege yet somehow couldn't get laid?? ??? Certainly sounds to me like something about his personality drove girls away from him -

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/941503_4270078329087_1481512828_n-620x347.jpg

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/05/24/extreme-caution-this-frightening-youtube-video-may-be-the-manifesto-of-santa-barbara-mass-slayer/

Hitch
24th May 2014, 11:46 AM
Is this the kid? Looks like him to me (and he has his shades hanging from his shirt like in the now removed video). A kid who lived a life of privilege yet somehow couldn't get laid?? ??? Certainly sounds to me like something about his personality drove girls away from him -

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/941503_4270078329087_1481512828_n-620x347.jpg


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/05/24/extreme-caution-this-frightening-youtube-video-may-be-the-manifesto-of-santa-barbara-mass-slayer/

He's wearing the same shirt as in the video you posted.

Wild, how can not even a teacher notice he's insane? The parents? How was this guy walking around in society the whole time a ticking time bomb....and nobody noticed?

I'm truly baffled by this.

Dogman
24th May 2014, 11:48 AM
elite/rich kids are more likely chosen as mind control targets.



Not just the elite!

Have seen many kids grow up and weird out, despite good homes and upbringing.

Some are miss wired from the time they were born! Several are dead now, a few in prison never to get out, which is a good thing.

No outside help needed.

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midnight rambler
24th May 2014, 11:50 AM
He's wearing the same shirt as in the video you posted.

Wild, how can not even a teacher notice he's insane? The parents? How was this guy walking around in society the whole time a ticking time bomb....and nobody noticed?

I'm truly baffled by this.

It isn't like no one noticed. On one of his YT vids in early May he posted:


I temporarily took all of my Vlog's down due to the alarm it caused with some people in my family. I will post more updates in the future.

Hitch
24th May 2014, 12:00 PM
It isn't like no one noticed. On one of his YT vids in early May he posted:

I don't think you get that messed up in the head overnight. My guess is his parents were very wealthy, overworked, and instead of giving him any attention over the years, just gave him money and a fancy car.

Santa Barbara is a young college beach party town. I've passed through there over the years. Kids wear t-shirts, board shorts, and flip flops. This guy with his fancy clothes must have stuck out like a sore thumb.

singular_me
24th May 2014, 12:49 PM
Hollywood is a nest of dark energy... but I am surely not discounting what you said. It could be a random case of born mentally ill



Not just the elite!

Have seen many kids grow up and weird out, despite good homes and upbringing.

Some are miss wired from the time they were born! Several are dead now, a few in prison never to get out, which is a good thing.

No outside help needed.

Android Forum Runner

Dogman
24th May 2014, 12:58 PM
Hollywood is a nest of dark energy... but I am surely not discounting what you said. It could be a random case of born mentally ill For sure in the hell the kids I am thinking about never have been to L.A or stepped out of texas.


Singular, I am convinced there is evil in this world, I knew the family's, good people, close friends, nothing hidden. and the kids were bad to the bone from birth. In many cases I was there as a friend of the family's. And not in any classical mentally ill way. they were just evil. When ever they came to a fork in the road of life, they took the one to the dark side. hard to explain, Some people are just evil from birth, despite how well they are raised/brought up.

Uncle Salty
24th May 2014, 01:05 PM
Dude was weird. Definitely had some mental issues.

Really interested to find out what meds he was on. He was a good looking, wealthy, weirdo.

midnight rambler
24th May 2014, 01:47 PM
I would be surprised not to see several lawsuits filed based on this YT posting of the shooter (along with other YT postings in the aggregate):


I temporarily took all of my Vlog's down due to the alarm it caused with some people in my family.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C6eVdsbZbg

"(S)ome people in his family" noted his behavior, were ALARMED by it, yet no one intervened, indeed his father and his family continued to enable and sponsor (pay for) his questionable behavior.

Worth noting - the shooter posted a video viewing out the window of an airliner on final approach into LAX on a return flight from London two years ago, and when he panned his camera you could see he was seated in first class. Do you know how much first class air fare round trip from LAX to London is?

Half Sense
24th May 2014, 01:59 PM
How dumb is this freak? He never heard of hookers?

Cebu_4_2
24th May 2014, 02:34 PM
How dumb is this freak? He never heard of hookers?

You mean "Escorts". I came in an escort once while in an escort. You can't drive a hooker.

Sandblaster
24th May 2014, 02:35 PM
I wonder if this will be another case of "affluenza" ?

Dogman
24th May 2014, 02:37 PM
I wonder if this will be another case of "affluenza" ? Naw, more of a social dumbass/shit that had visions of grander on a personal level.

Shami-Amourae
24th May 2014, 02:49 PM
He's wearing the same shirt as in the video you posted.

Wild, how can not even a teacher notice he's insane? The parents? How was this guy walking around in society the whole time a ticking time bomb....and nobody noticed?

I'm truly baffled by this.

I've dealt with people like this before, especially when I lived in a upscale community. It's very common in California. I had one guy who was exactly like this pull an axe on me after a verbal confrontation. He then tried to swing at me to kill me but my instincts kicked in and I simply charged in head on and tackled him down to the ground and started punching his face in until the neighbors pulled me off.

Why do you guys think I hate California so much?

Hitch
24th May 2014, 02:49 PM
How dumb is this freak? He never heard of hookers?

I don't know if even a hooker would have gone near that guy. I think women can sense when a guy is not only completely insane, but dangerously insane.

This is Santa Barbara, college beach town, how could a normal guy NOT hook up? Babes all over the place there.

Hitch
24th May 2014, 02:54 PM
I've dealt with people like this before, especially when I lived in a upscale community. It's very common in California. I had one guy who was exactly like this pull an axe on me after a verbal confrontation. He then tried to swing at me to kill me but my instincts kicked in and I simply charged in head on and tackled him down to the ground and started punching his face in until the neighbors pulled me off.

Why do you guys think I hate California so much?

Dang Shami, that's bad ass. You charged a guy with an axe and beat the crap out of him. Not many guys have done that. If you were a cop, you could have simply shot him. :)

midnight rambler
24th May 2014, 03:00 PM
"(S)ome people in his family" noted his behavior, were ALARMED by it, yet no one intervened, indeed his father and his family continued to enable and sponsor (pay for) his questionable behavior.



It turns out that the family DID 'make a report' to the social workers with guns who make housecalls yet - big surprise - they proved to be a worthless bunch. (Of course expecting state actors/social workers with guns to actually do anything useful is just plain stupid in the first place, that was their mistake - expecting state actors to look out for their best interests, a totally unreasonable expectation).

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/05/24/shooting-california-santa-barbara/9532405/

Dogman
24th May 2014, 03:01 PM
I don't know if even a hooker would have gone near that guy. I think women can sense when a guy is not only completely insane, but dangerously insane.

This is Santa Barbara, college beach town, how could a normal guy NOT hook up? Babes all over the place there. Kids of that age the hormones are turned up to the max, everything is new and exciting, things get old fast. it is a hormonal learning rush, they that can not get laid in that atmosphere, has to be off the charts.

Kids that age are pushing for an unknown future, but for dam sure because of hormones, sex is behind everything not academic. Everything fun, has a whisper of possible sex ether looking for or hooking up in hope of it. Guys for scoring gals for the same but also for longer term catches.

A young kid, needing to see a hooker, unless it was arranged by family/friends or what ever to bust his cherry. and yes I knew familys that did that, for their sons, but never for the daughters. Dad taking son out and making sure the son got schooled.

The guy was a freak, something wrong, highly warped viewpoints of reality.

Hitch
24th May 2014, 03:09 PM
It turns out that the family DID 'make a report' to the social workers with guns who make housecalls yet - big surprise - they proved to be a worthless bunch.

Please explain what the cops should have done. I can't wait for your response. Arrest him for a victimless crime?

Well, now you have victims. 6 innocent people dead. What could the cops have done to prevent this from happening...while, at the same time, upholding constitutional law?

Dogman
24th May 2014, 03:16 PM
Please explain what the cops should have done. I can't wait for your response. Arrest him for a victimless crime?

Well, now you have victims. 6 innocent people dead. What could the cops have done to prevent this from happening...while, at the same time, upholding constitutional law?
They could not, I agree hitch, hand were tied, some here think in what they want to see , vs what is real , But remember most here would love to see this nation crash because they do not agree nor believe what is now is what is the accepted reality of how this nation works. Yes the laws compared to the constitution are mostly wrong, and the courts mostly support the money.

It is a mess,

But I agree arresting the shit head just for shit that most kids do at that age, is a question, because we all had our times, all of us reading this!

But most of us grew out of it, of did some dumb thing, that opened a door so we could peek down path, that we would quickly decide not to go again, (get arrested and steel cells and all the fun they hold)

No good answer nor a magic wand , which is a shame.

But such is the price of freedom, give reasonable doubt, until something snaps.

midnight rambler
24th May 2014, 03:20 PM
Please explain what the cops should have done. I can't wait for your response. Arrest him for a victimless crime?

Well, now you have victims. 6 innocent people dead. What could the cops have done to prevent this from happening...while, at the same time, upholding constitutional law?

The *problem* in this instance is expecting fucking state actors to be of any help at all. Surely you've heard this before, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you." No, the problem is with dipshits who think the donut munchers are there to solve all their problems, rather than taking responsibility for their own issues. (anything from getting ripped off by their dealer to not getting laid, etc.)

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=woman+calls+911+over+mcnugget s+

Hitch
24th May 2014, 03:23 PM
The *problem* in this instance is expecting fucking state actors to be of any help at all. Surely you've heard this before, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you." No, the problem is with dipshits who think the donut munchers are there to solve all their problems, rather taking responsibility for their own issues. (anything from getting ripped off by their dealer to not getting laid, etc.)

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=woman+calls+911+over+mcnugget s+

Good answer midnight, and I agree. The family just reported their son to cover their own asses. That happens a lot in LE. Just having a report filed is an "I told ya so", and now it's on LE to some how magically stop bad things from happening in the future.

People don't accept responsibility for their own issues, that is a fact.

Dogman
24th May 2014, 03:27 PM
The *problem* in this instance is expecting fucking state actors to be of any help at all. Surely you've heard this before, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you." No, the problem is with dipshits who think the donut munchers are there to solve all their problems, rather taking responsibility for their own issues. (anything from getting ripped off by their dealer to not getting laid, etc.)

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=woman+calls+911+over+mcnugget s+
I agree, but hell some do not know they have a problem, if unknown how can one seek help?

Again have met some increadably dense people what can not understand what they are doing is wrong, they cherish their viewpoints of life and ignore the real world, hell, there are some on this forum, that fit that.

Just saying!

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Hitch
24th May 2014, 03:33 PM
I agree, but hell some do not know they have a problem, if unknown how can one seek help?

Again have met some increadably dense people what can not understand what they are doing is wrong, they cherish their viewpoints of life and ignore the real world, hell, there are some on this forum, that fit that.



The biggest challenge men need to overcome is their egos. Take this maniac, he in his mind thought he was the best thing out there, and couldn't face reality. He 'burst' because he was his own worst enemy. Another bubble, so to speak. Like the stock market, fiat, our society creates bubbles in people too.

We live in a narcissistic society. An entitlement society. People feel like they are owed something, just by being alive. I just don't understand it, and will never understand that mentality.

Shami-Amourae
24th May 2014, 03:34 PM
He's 22 with a BMW. That should tell you everything.

He's a spoiled little shit.

Dogman
24th May 2014, 03:44 PM
The biggest challenge men need to overcome is their egos. Take this maniac, he in his mind thought he was the best thing out there, and couldn't face reality. He 'burst' because he was his own worst enemy. Another bubble, so to speak. Like the stock market, fiat, our society creates bubbles in people too.

We live in a narcissistic society. An entitlement society. People feel like they are owed something, just by being alive. I just don't understand it, and will never understand that mentality. But most do not realise or can see oneself s ego. Some in time can understand what is "ego" and relate to self. The guy was ruled by his ego, which was a self important just knowing what hes/ego thought was totally right, the hell and dam the rest of the real world.

as an entitlement society, and how we got this way, to see the culprit is easy , just look into a mirror.

I have teeth grinding when i hear ad's and such saying we all deserve this or that. Because we are worth it. The last one was a makeup ad for women.

And I have storys about, Mary K and how they train, to get around husbands spending limits.

Media, sure has helped to get us to the "me" generations.

Hitch
24th May 2014, 03:51 PM
as an entitlement society, and how we got this way, to see the culprit is easy , just look into a mirror.

I guess you are suggesting we all allowed the entitlement mentality to happen. When I look in the mirror, I see the same me but getting gray hair. :)

I think this is why I like surfing. Young, old, rich, poor. The waves treat everyone the same. No entitlements out there at all. If you take a beating, it's all on you. Nobody else. I don't think I've ever felt more free than that.

Cebu_4_2
24th May 2014, 04:18 PM
He's 22 with a BMW. That should tell you everything.

He's a spoiled little shit.

Not necessarily, after all it's just a car. To a rich ass spoiled fucking psycho it's probably not even ever thought of. I remember getting my first BMW, life was grand, wanting everyone to look at it... Time goes on and it's forgotten. It's like bragging rights, if you win the lotto you want to tell everyone, but that is not a good decision so you keep quiet. Time goes on and your all set. No need to brag about it.

Or is there? LOL

http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6378&d=1400969883

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I'm kinda partial to the old E34 series.

Dogman
24th May 2014, 04:18 PM
But most do not realise or can see oneself s ego. Some in time can understand what is "ego" and relate to self. The guy was ruled by his ego, which was a self important just knowing what hes/ego thought was totally right, the hell and dam the rest of the real world.

as an entitlement society, and how we got this way, to see the culprit is easy , just look into a mirror.

I have teeth grinding when i hear ad's and such saying we all deserve this or that. Because we are worth it. The last one was a makeup ad for women.

And I have storys about, Mary K and how they train, to get around husbands spending limits.

Media, sure has helped to get us to the "me" generations.


I guess you are suggesting we all allowed the entitlement mentality to happen. When I look in the mirror, I see the same me but getting gray hair. :)

I think this is why I like surfing. Young, old, rich, poor. The waves treat everyone the same. No entitlements out there at all. If you take a beating, it's all on you. Nobody else. I don't think I've ever felt more free than that.

Well you are sorta dense any way which is a good thing! :)

No what I am talking about is a very slow thing that I am not sure how It came to be, but for sure I see the media push is in a veiled way or reenforce it.

Take heroes, now everone is one, that may or not deserve it, just doing a job, that you are payed for and volunteered for not so much.

But to step out of the mold and do the truely exceptional, then the title maybe deserved.

But now the word hero is becoming common .

The media , gives kudos, and the sheep accept it as so. Real I honor, but for day to day, not so!

Vet's day is cumming up, contrary to some, there were some heroes, not for any political system, but for the brotherhood of the military which are not to question the political reasons but just to do. And they did and died. For the right and the wrong! Most got into this fighting for the guy next to them, politics be dammed.

I question my service, during Vietnam, knowing the politics now we should never have been in that dam war. But we were, I lost many friends, even it was better not to make friends because here today , gone tomorrow.

I have seen every so called conflict/war using the filters that were lost that we have been in since. Most we should not have been in also. But the kids, that fought,and died or were maimed. I forgive them for their ignorance, because they were young and dumb. They were fighting for what they believed in and for that it is enough for me to honor them. Along with all other military vets that fought for the ideal ,right or wrong, for our freedoms. Which many countrys will clamp down on one of the ones at the time I fought for,freedom of speech other countrys would squash ones here like a bug speaking their minds.

For that if real to keep our freedoms I would do all over again with good or bad results. some punks here or people of other countrys will never understand, or it will piss them off.

Sorry for the bend in the topic to the forum.



Sorry to the forum, got a bit off topic.

But proud I served, and would do again, given the same times and common ideals.

So far all promaces made to me by this gov, if I play by the rules have been for filled.

Military and civil.

Norweger
24th May 2014, 04:19 PM
How long before Jewanne Jewstein makes an announcement?

Hillbilly
24th May 2014, 05:14 PM
Pretty neurotic crazy Joo kid. He would have become a serial killer eventually.

Dogman
24th May 2014, 05:16 PM
Pretty neurotic crazy Joo kid. He would have become a serial killer eventually.Eventually ?

He hit one of the jackpots, if 6 in a row within minuets counts!

Not much thought went into the post I can understand, we all do it.

But joo overrides everything ...No?

for the right and it does not matter for the wrong!

This kind of thing is not a joo thing or any other kind of lable, we will see more of it, as socitey becomes sicker. And it will

Because this nation has no anchor anymore.

It is adrift.

I repeat from another post look into a mirror, and see the evil that drives everything for the bad now.

Out of this thread. Let the bottom feeders have it. One already has chimed in.

OUT. is a military radio term, meaning that transmissions from me is over. Switched to monitoring mode.

Hitch
24th May 2014, 05:44 PM
Because this nation has no anchor anymore. .

This sentence here ^^ is the crux of the whole issue. There's nothing anchoring this nation anymore, there's no culture, that grips and is a stronghold to keep a focus and be a guiding light for the future.

We are a sailboat without a rudder, collectively. Driven by the wind, which is the mass media that's forced upon us.

Our anchor was the constitution, but sadly it has been lost.

midnight rambler
24th May 2014, 06:47 PM
The extremely emotional call has gone out for 'more gun control!!!' by the father of one of the dead kids. The only way to have stopped this particular kid from being able to get a gun is to stop everyone from being able to get a gun - iow, never going to happen however expect to see more "but it will make us feel good" attempts at 'gun control'.

Of course the irony here is that much like Chicago, Californicate is the shining example of how well harsh over the top 'gun control' laws work. /sarc

midnight rambler
24th May 2014, 06:56 PM
He's 22 with a BMW. That should tell you everything.

He's a spoiled little shit.

It was the entire privileged lifestyle he enjoyed that enabled his '*I* am special' perspective. In one of his videos he mentions how swell he looks in his $300 Armani sunglasses (yet this awesome look isn't getting me laid - why do girls hate me*??). Earlier I pointed out that on a return flight from London two years ago he was flying first class (as evidenced by his video when he panned inside the cabin) - a one way ticket LAX/Heathrow runs from $7k to $16k. How many 20 year olds fly to London and back first class? He was definitely in a bubble and his father was his enabler.

*in contrast to the non-arrogant view of "Gee, I'm not scoring, WHAT am I doing wrong?? Perhaps I should seek out some counseling on that!"

Dogman
24th May 2014, 08:34 PM
It was the entire privileged lifestyle he enjoyed that enabled his '*I* am special' perspective. In one of his videos he mentions how swell he looks in his $300 Armani sunglasses (yet this awesome look isn't getting me laid - why do girls hate me*??). Earlier I pointed out that on a return flight from London two years ago he was flying first class (as evidenced by his video when he panned inside the cabin) - a one way ticket LAX/Heathrow runs from $7k to $16k. How many 20 year olds fly to London and back first class? He was definitely in a bubble and his father was his enabler.

*in contrast to the non-arrogant view of "Gee, I'm not scoring, WHAT am I doing wrong?? Perhaps I should seek out some counseling on that!" Probably if he could keep his mouth shut and act the strong silent type he would have pussy to spare, but it looks like when ever he opened his mouth, game over!

Shami-Amourae
24th May 2014, 08:45 PM
Oy vey!
http://ajwnews.com/archives/tag/peter-rodger
http://ukjewishfilm.org/people/peter-rodger/

Take the goys' guns!
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/05/24/CA-Gunman-s-Family-Releases-Statement-They-Are-Against-Guns-Support-Gun-Control

Norweger
25th May 2014, 12:58 AM
Something smells.

Norweger
25th May 2014, 01:14 AM
What get's me suspicious of this whole thing is the manifesto. The same thing happened with the mass shooting in Norway in 2011. The case was investigated to completion before the last bullets had fallen and everybody "knew" what had happened, partially due to the release of this manifesto.

Talking about childhood memories and the last time his parents were together on his birthday at age 7 and how he ate his favorite meal lobster and blabla. It seems so constructed.

JohnQPublic
25th May 2014, 02:30 AM
CAst and crew of Oh My God:
http://www.omgmovie.com/about-movie/cast

http://www.omgmovie.com/img/about/about-the-cast-title.png Peter Rodger as Himself

Hugh Jackman as Himself

Ringo Starr as Himself

David Copperfield as Himself

Seal as Himself

Sir Bob Geldof as Himself

Baz Luhrmann as Himself

Jack Thompson as Himself

Princess Michael of Kent as Herself

John Demartini as Himself

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(Peter Rodger)

JohnQPublic
25th May 2014, 02:37 AM
http://youtu.be/WyH9lYZKa2Y

Shami-Amourae
25th May 2014, 03:13 AM
Full story from the cops. Dunno how much you wanna believe, but everyone is neatly dressed in uniforms so it must be true:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Wdq-OKfT4

Basically he stabbed 3 guys to death where he lived then killed 2 others with 2 Sig Sauer P226s and a Glock 34, both of which are in 9mm. The other was run over by a car. He was a good little Californian and used 10 round magazines, but simply had a ton of magazines.

Lets sum this up:
3 Stabbed + 2 Shot + 1 Run over with car + 1 Suicide = "Gunman"

midnight rambler
25th May 2014, 03:37 AM
Full story from the cops. Dunno how much you wanna believe, but everyone is neatly dressed in uniforms so it must be true:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Wdq-OKfT4

Basically he stabbed 3 guys to death where he lived then killed 2 others with 2 Sig Sauer P226s and a Glock 34, both of which are in 9mm. The other was run over by a car. He was a good little Californian and used 10 round magazines, but simply had a ton of magazines.

Lets sum this up:
3 Stabbed + 2 Shot + 1 Run over with car + 1 Suicide = "Gunman"

I really like the part where they handcuffed someone who was 'obviously dead'.

aeondaze
25th May 2014, 04:25 AM
I really like the part where they handcuffed someone who was 'obviously dead'.

The reportage of these tragedies has become a circus of the macabre.

The bit that struck me was the guy hollering vociferously that gun laws need revising. They never mentioned knives though, I mean the guy stabbed three of his flatmates to death. Fact is with or without guns, people with psychological issues are unfortunately going to kill others from time to time. Life is what it is for all the good and the bad. This is the reality that all the controllers, pretenders and tyrants don't want the little guy to come to grips with as it renders any need for them superfluous.

This guy had a complete inability to be happy with anything in his life, probably due to his parents throwing cash at the compounding problems of his existential turmoil. Truely sad.

Neuro
25th May 2014, 04:59 AM
What get's me suspicious of this whole thing is the manifesto. The same thing happened with the mass shooting in Norway in 2011. The case was investigated to completion before the last bullets had fallen and everybody "knew" what had happened, partially due to the release of this manifesto.

Talking about childhood memories and the last time his parents were together on his birthday at age 7 and how he ate his favorite meal lobster and blabla. It seems so constructed.
I agree, the storyline is constructed, if he indeed did kill the people, he was programmed to do so most likely.

singular_me
25th May 2014, 05:34 AM
how revealing...



CAst and crew of Oh My God:
http://www.omgmovie.com/about-movie/cast

http://www.omgmovie.com/img/about/about-the-cast-title.png Peter Rodger as Himself

Hugh Jackman as Himself

Ringo Starr as Himself

David Copperfield as Himself

Seal as Himself

Sir Bob Geldof as Himself

Baz Luhrmann as Himself

Jack Thompson as Himself

Princess Michael of Kent as Herself

John Demartini as Himself

6381
(Peter Rodger)

Horn
25th May 2014, 09:28 AM
EE_ said it was not a major news story, is it being made one for gun control laws?

I wouldn't think so with stabbing and car manslaughter involved.

singular_me
25th May 2014, 09:37 AM
how revealing - again
--------------
Hollywood gives star treatment to the CIA Memorial Wall
Washington Post (blog) ‎- ‎- 2 days ago
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/local/wp/2014/05/23/hollywood-gives-star-treatment-to-the-cia-memorial-wall/

Hitch
25th May 2014, 09:49 AM
Have any of you heard of an online forum called puahate?

Apparently the gunman was a member of a forum dedicated to sexually frustrated men.

It makes you wonder if they will us this incident to attack online forums, and free speech.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ucsb-shooting-forum-associated-with-elliot-rodger-reacts-2014-5

Police have not yet named a suspect in the mass shooting near the UC Santa Barbara campus that left seven people dead Friday night, but they have said they are studying a video posted to YouTube for connections to the incident. In it, a man identifying himself as Eliot Rodger sits in a car with palm trees in the background, calmly declaring his intention of murdering women as revenge for his romantic frustrations.

Someone with the username EliotRodger was a regular poster on an online message board called PUAhate, on which men who have been unlucky with women commiserate, criticize one another, excoriate the opposite sex, and denounce PUA's, or pick-up artists — dating gurus whom they accuse of preying on desperate men like themselves for financial gain.

Many of the posters identify themselves as "incels," short for involuntary celibates, and some of the posts fantasize about violence toward women.

At this point, Rodger has not been declared a suspect in the shooting. But the PUAhate community has responded to the incident. Late last night, a forum member posted the video and wrote that "Eliot Rodger, a member of this forum, just shot two girls near Santa Barbara (Isla Vista)."

The responses to the post are notable for the same tone of self-loathing and seething frustration displayed by the man in the video. "He sounds like an [expletive]," reads the first reply.

Another chimes in, "He sounds aspie as [expletive]," a reference to Asperger's syndrome. Several others criticize the man's "villain laugh."

An example of the sort of intense criticism of one another's appearance that is common on the site comes from a member named Colez, who writes:

He's not "ugly" in layman's terms, but he has no sex appeal. Short lower third and gay midface, with zero brow ridge. ... We must dig deeper.

He should've gotten a hair-cut, aqcuired neck tattoos and gone over the top with the sociopathic act, that would've gotten him hotties. Unfortunately, like most on this site, he's too aspie to realize it. Lock him up and throw away the key.

Another user claimed that Rodger was the son of Peter Rodger, a documentary filmmaker and a second unit director on the "Hunger Games," according to IMDB. The post included a picture of a young man resembling Eliot Rodger at a red carpet event.

Colez later followed up: "Nothing will come of this, you sensationalist losers. Certainly not national coverage."

But another member, manic786, disagreed.

If this is legit the future does not bode well for this forum.... This site, trolling aside, holds potentially dangerous material. Imagine a mass realisation amongst incels and the potential repercussions it will have. This forum will be closed, individual users will be investigated and will likely be prosecuted for crimes such as incitement etc.

We will be persecuted and hunted down like the vile abominations we are... Act quickly to avoid any link to this place.

gunDriller
25th May 2014, 10:09 AM
Have any of you heard of an online forum called puahate?

Apparently the gunman was a member of a forum dedicated to sexually frustrated men.


that sounds like a wierd thing to have a forum about.

if forums were a big store, i guess it would be one aisle over from the gay forums and one aisle down from the circle-jerk forums ?

on the opposite side of the store from the gardening forums.

Neuro
25th May 2014, 10:17 AM
CAst and crew of Oh My God:
http://www.omgmovie.com/about-movie/cast

http://www.omgmovie.com/img/about/about-the-cast-title.png Peter Rodger as Himself

Hugh Jackman as Himself

Ringo Starr as Himself

David Copperfield as Himself

Seal as Himself

Sir Bob Geldof as Himself

Baz Luhrmann as Himself

Jack Thompson as Himself

Princess Michael of Kent as Herself

John Demartini as Himself

6381
(Peter Rodger)
Didn't Bob Geldof's son also kill himself recently...

Horn
25th May 2014, 10:20 AM
Have any of you heard of an online forum called puahate?

Apparently the gunman was a member of a forum dedicated to sexually frustrated men. .


No, hope you're aren't a member over there, Hitch.

Horn
25th May 2014, 10:28 AM
Didn't Bob Geldof's son also kill himself recently...

Daughter, Peaches

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/rocker-bob-geldof-hadnt-seen-daughter-peaches-for-weeks-before-her-unexplained-death/story-fn907478-1226881178367

Hitch
25th May 2014, 10:28 AM
No, hope you're aren't a member over there, Hitch.

Of course not, but it's eye opening a forum like that even exists in the first place. What would happen to this forum if a poster went on a rampage and made international news?

Horn
25th May 2014, 10:33 AM
What would happen to this forum if a poster went on a rampage and made international news?

JQP would most likely remove that video banner...

Hitch
25th May 2014, 10:42 AM
JQP would most likely remove that video banner...

Thing is, we are such a small forum, a lot of us have actually met in person and are good friends. The members of this forum are all level headed, intelligent and for the most part, sane.

But imagine this scenario. We get some new poster, a complete lunatic, who makes a bunch of posts, then goes on some mass rampage....

Then this site gets locked down, everyone gets investigated, there's a bunch of drama, etc.

singular_me
25th May 2014, 10:59 AM
have no time to review this...

In the video below, TeamWakeEmUP exposes the inconsistencies of this mass shooting event.
Santa Barbara Drive-By Mass Shooting Hoax Exposed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sttXrM32lCo&list=TLTlVNLorI6_YD3GeJsxneMGmCIHnN8ZtO

Cebu_4_2
25th May 2014, 11:18 AM
That video was great! Kind of surprising in a way, the details are so scattered I wouldn't have guessed it was a hoax until this video. The public speech hits the agenda dead nuts.

singular_me
25th May 2014, 11:28 AM
only watched 1 minute here and there... but seems like very bad acting to me.

no women wanted a female in a guy's body? veryyyy possible...

http://i.cbc.ca/1.2653526.1401016646!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_300/elliot-rodger.jpg

http://localtvwiti.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/elliot-rodgers1.jpg


effeminate men exist, but the more I look at the face, the more I see a woman...

midnight rambler
25th May 2014, 12:07 PM
http://youtu.be/WyH9lYZKa2Y

Who was Peter Rodger's benefactor in this load of bovine fecal matter production??

Hey Peter, you're an UTTER FAILURE as a parent, now you're trying to deflect YOUR responsibility for this failure elsewhere. You have NO CLUE as to the essential nature of the Creator, Bill Hicks was light years ahead of you in understanding what this life is all about.

midnight rambler
25th May 2014, 12:40 PM
On a side note, I'm wondering why the little lost boy took the windshield wiper blades off his Beemer. In his videos made before the shooting when he's doing selfies in his Beemer you can see the ww blades are missing and in the photo of the last crime scene the ww blades are missing. The only thing I can think of is that numbnuts thought the ww blades interfered with his jootube presentation of his world.

Hillbilly
25th May 2014, 01:51 PM
Eventually ?

He hit one of the jackpots, if 6 in a row within minuets counts!

Not much thought went into the post I can understand, we all do it.

But joo overrides everything ...No?

for the right and it does not matter for the wrong!

This kind of thing is not a joo thing or any other kind of lable, we will see more of it, as socitey becomes sicker. And it will

Because this nation has no anchor anymore.

It is adrift.

I repeat from another post look into a mirror, and see the evil that drives everything for the bad now.

Out of this thread. Let the bottom feeders have it. One already has chimed in.

OUT. is a military radio term, meaning that transmissions from me is over. Switched to monitoring mode.

Yes he was a crazy neurotic Joo Kid, he was like a virganal version of Jerry Seinfeld. Had he not shot his wad all at once he most likely would have killed 40+ people over the next 30 years as a serial killer. He would have been on par with Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs...this kids was crazy!

Horn
25th May 2014, 02:17 PM
Thing is, we are such a small forum, a lot of us have actually met in person and are good friends. The members of this forum are all level headed, intelligent and for the most part, sane.

But imagine this scenario. We get some new poster, a complete lunatic, who makes a bunch of posts, then goes on some mass rampage....

Then this site gets locked down, everyone gets investigated, there's a bunch of drama, etc.

Nobody here has those kinds of issues with women, do they?

Cebu_4_2
25th May 2014, 02:29 PM
On a side note, I'm wondering why the little lost boy took the windshield wiper blades off his Beemer. In his videos made before the shooting when he's doing selfies in his Beemer you can see the ww blades are missing and in the photo of the last crime scene the ww blades are missing. The only thing I can think of is that numbnuts thought the ww blades interfered with his jootube presentation of his world.

The crime scene I saw did have WW blades on it... Interesting though. We should post this, might be a double or something going on also.

Cebu_4_2
25th May 2014, 02:30 PM
nobody here has those kinds of issues with women, do they?

lmfao!

midnight rambler
25th May 2014, 02:47 PM
The crime scene I saw did have WW blades on it... Interesting though. We should post this, might be a double or something going on also.

After reviewing photos of the wrecked Beemer it appears the passenger side ww blade is still in place and the driver's side was knocked off by the bicyclist who crashed through his windshield.

Cebu_4_2
25th May 2014, 02:52 PM
After reviewing photos of the wrecked Beemer it appears the passenger side ww blade is still in place and the driver's side was knocked off by the bicyclist who crashed through his windshield.

Link me the vid you are referring to please...

midnight rambler
25th May 2014, 03:04 PM
Link me the vid you are referring to please...

I'm thinking it's just the way that model has the ww blade assembly configured, in the videos of numbnuts cruising down the road the ww appears to be without the blade and when I watched the vids initially I was wondering why it had that appearance (as in 'what is that on the dash or windshield?'). And no, I don't care to watch anymore of numbnuts' vids where he's winking and blowing kisses at the camera/himself*, it's on his jootube channel if you care to see for yourself.

*I cannot fathom why someone who obviously loved himself as much as he did would go off like that. He WAS awesome and magnificent...yeah, better believe it. As was noted in an earlier post, if he would just have kept his mouth shut and come across as the strong silent type he would have surely found some airheaded valley girl who would have rubbed herself all over him. "85% of success is just showing up." --Woody Allen

Hitch
25th May 2014, 03:12 PM
Nobody here has those kinds of issues with women, do they?

I think folks here are sharp enough to know if someone has those kind of issues.

Cebu_4_2
25th May 2014, 03:15 PM
Transcript of his retribution video:

(CNN) -- Authorities searching for a motive in the drive-by shootings in Santa Barbara, California (http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/24/justice/california-shooting-deaths/index.html), were looking into a video posted on social media that contains a man's tirade against women who rebuffed him, according to police.
In the chilling YouTube video, titled "Retribution," a young man rants for nearly seven minutes against women he says ignored and rejected him.

Authorities have not released the identity of the gunman, but based on what police have told the family of 22-year-old Elliot Rodger (http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/24/us/california-shooting-suspect/index.html), the parents believe he is the man behind the shootings, attorney Alan Shifman, the family spokesman, told reporters on Saturday.

The man in the video identifies himself as Elliot Rodger.
Below is a transcript of the disturbing video, prepared by CNN.

Hi. Elliot Rodger here.
Well, this is my last video, it has all had to come to this. Tomorrow is the day of retribution, the day in which I will have my revenge against humanity, against all of you. For the last eight years of my life, ever since I hit puberty, I've been forced to endure an existence of loneliness, rejection and unfulfilled desires all because girls have never been attracted to me. Girls gave their affection, and sex and love to other men but never to me.

I'm 22 years old and I'm still a virgin. I've never even kissed a girl. I've been through college for two and a half years, more than that actually, and I'm still a virgin. It has been very torturous. College is the time when everyone experiences those things such as sex and fun and pleasure. Within those years, I've had to rot in loneliness. It's not fair.

You girls have never been attracted to me. I don't know why you girls aren't attracted to me, but I will punish you all for it. It's an injustice, a crime, because... I don't know what you don't see in me. I'm the perfect guy and yet you throw yourselves at these obnoxious men instead of me, the supreme gentleman.

I will punish all of you for it. (laughs) On the day of retribution I'm going to enter the hottest sorority house of UCSB. And I will slaughter every spoiled, stuck-up, blond slut I see inside there. All those girls I've desired so much, they would have all rejected me and looked down upon me as an inferior man if I ever made a sexual advance towards them (scoffs) while they throw themselves at these obnoxious brutes. I'll take great pleasure in slaughtering all of you.

You will finally see that I am in truth the superior one. The true alpha male. (laughs) Yes. After I've annihilated every single girl in the sorority house, I will take to the streets of Isla Vista and slay every single person I see there. All those popular kids who live such lives of hedonistic pleasures while I've had to rot in loneliness for all these years. They've all looked down upon me every time I tried to go out and join them, they've all treated me like a mouse.

Well now I will be a god compared to you. You will all be animals. You are animals and I will slaughter you like animals. And I will be a god. Exacting my retribution on all those who deserve it. You do deserve it. Just for the crime of living a better life than me. All you popular kids, you've never accepted me, and now you will all pay for it. And girls, all I ever wanted was to love you, and to be loved by you. I've wanted a girlfriend, I've wanted sex, I've wanted love, affection, adoration. You think I'm unworthy of it. That's a crime that can never be forgiven.

If I can't have you, girls, I will destroy you. (laughs) You denied me a happy life, and in turn, I will deny all of you life. (laughs) It's only fair.

I hate all of you. Humanity is a disgusting, wretched, depraved species. If I had it in my power, I would stop at nothing (points finger at camera) to reduce every single one of you to mountains of skulls and rivers of blood. And rightfully so.
You deserve to be annihilated and I'll give that to you. You never showed me any mercy and so I will show you none. (laughs)

You've forced me to suffer all my life and now I'll force you all suffer. I've waited a long time for this. I'll give you exactly what you deserve. All of you. All you girls who rejected me and looked down upon me and you know, treated me like scum while you gave yourselves to other men. And all of you men, for living a better life than me, all of you sexually active men, I hate you. I hate all of you. I can't wait to give you exactly what you deserve. Utter annihilation. (laughs)

Cebu_4_2
25th May 2014, 03:19 PM
I think the kid was a little douche that jacked off so much that he didn't have the "urge" to pick up some hoe.

Picking up chicks when I was younger was stupid easy, I would pick chicks up for my buddies too. Go to a bar and tell them to pick out a chick any chick and I'll lay her tonight... They stopped betting against me.

midnight rambler
25th May 2014, 03:24 PM
I think the kid was a little douche that jacked off so much that he didn't have the "urge" to pick up some hoe.

Picking up chicks when I was younger was stupid easy

That's what I'm thinking, 'cause when one is in one's early 20s, not looking like an ogre, clean, neat, and appearing to have resources/money getting laid comes with the territory. So there just had to be something about this kid's makeup which totally turned off girls WHEN he did try* to talk to 'em.

*another strike against getting absorbed in video games to the extent of developing anti-social tendencies, or just not developing any social skills at all

Cebu_4_2
25th May 2014, 03:31 PM
*another strike against getting absorbed in video games to the extent of developing anti-social tendencies, or just not developing any social skills at all

I briefly remember them mentioning the video game angle, have not found much though. Interesting his father was a partner in regards to the Hunger Games. Almost could qualify as a MKULTRA style scenario...

midnight rambler
25th May 2014, 03:34 PM
Fascinating. What a contrast - his pop got all sorts of desirable women to disrobe for his camera. Things that make you go, "Hmmm...." -

http://www.showbiz411.com/2014/05/25/exclusive-hunger-games-killers-dad-sells-art-photos-of-womens-behinds

Cebu_4_2
25th May 2014, 03:43 PM
This dude looks like a complete whack job!

Bet he would regularly sodomize the kid leading to this.

http://www.showbiz411.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/peter-rodger.jpg

midnight rambler
25th May 2014, 03:51 PM
This dude looks like a complete whack job!

Bet he would regularly sodomize the kid leading to this.


What I've been thinking all along, something extremely strange about that father/son relationship, the seeds of what was to follow.

Of course we all know that this was simply another case of guns being to easy to get. /sarc

Hitch
25th May 2014, 04:03 PM
I think the kid was a little douche that jacked off so much that he didn't have the "urge" to pick up some hoe.

Picking up chicks when I was younger was stupid easy, I would pick chicks up for my buddies too. Go to a bar and tell them to pick out a chick any chick and I'll lay her tonight... They stopped betting against me.

Makes you wonder if he even talked to any girls. This is Santa Barbara too, college parties, beach babes, stuff the Beach Boys would sing about. It would be heaven to go to school there, imo.

I'm thinking you might be right about mkultra. This whole incident really doesn't make sense. In the earlier video, the fake actor of a parent screaming to take the guns away. Maybe if someone at what, one of the 10 crime scenes, was a CCW, they could have saved a life. But this is CA, and nobody can carry...

Shami-Amourae
25th May 2014, 04:08 PM
His mother

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xn6gtY8W6Mc/U4EPM3d8YSI/AAAAAAAAHGI/S57G5W9525g/s1600/chinrodger.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bpLyvNyZgWE/U4EPeL9UhHI/AAAAAAAAHGY/Dl_qsi6XCFk/s1600/rodgerpeter.jpg

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bob38BWIIAAiokO.jpg:large

midnight rambler
25th May 2014, 04:08 PM
Maybe if someone at what, one of the 10 crime scenes, was a CCW, they could have saved a life.

IMO, that would have been difficult at best. He encountered/was engaged by deputy sheriffs (on foot) in at least two instances but because he was mobile he had the initiative.

Of course the criminally minded are naturally drawn to locations where they know they're highly unlikely to encounter someone (other than a cop) armed.

midnight rambler
25th May 2014, 04:10 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bpLyvNyZgWE/U4EPeL9UhHI/AAAAAAAAHGY/Dl_qsi6XCFk/s1600/rodgerpeter.jpg

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bob38BWIIAAiokO.jpg:large

It appears the seeds of his unhappiness were sown at a very early age.

Cebu_4_2
25th May 2014, 04:14 PM
Kid looked drugged to you?

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bpLyvNyZgWE/U4EPeL9UhHI/AAAAAAAAHGY/Dl_qsi6XCFk/s1600/rodgerpeter.jpg

midnight rambler
25th May 2014, 04:21 PM
Kid looked drugged to you?



Bad chemicals in his head, however those bad chemicals got there.

Cebu_4_2
25th May 2014, 04:23 PM
The plot thickens. Not sure if I just missed it but...


The gunman who killed six people in a furious shooting rampage near the University of California, Santa Barbara began the spree by stabbing to death three people in his home, police said tonight

There isn't much on this part.

midnight rambler
25th May 2014, 04:25 PM
The plot thickens. Not sure if I just missed it but...



There isn't much on this part.

The killing spree is all about the gun, the knife...meh.

What there also isn't much discussion of is that he got up close and personal* by stabbing to death THREE people he lived with and knew very well. Yikes**. But of course the gun aspect of this incident is of FAR greater importance.

*I know a 'little' about violence and I've got to tell ya, stabbing someone to death is absolutely as up close and personal as it gets - one has to be SERIOUSLY fucked up in the head to stab someone to death, ESPECIALLY someone they know (outside of genuine self-defense)

**this is precisely the sort of whacked out EXTREMELY dangerous PSYCHOPATH you need to either A) kill IMMEDIATELY upon realizing their nature, or B) run like Hell until you're a reliably safe distance from them

Cebu_4_2
25th May 2014, 05:13 PM
So who were the people in his house? Family?

There's a big WTF going on in my head right now on this.

midnight rambler
25th May 2014, 05:17 PM
So who were the people in his house? Family?


His roommates in a furnished apartment oriented toward students.

http://col.stb00.s-msn.com/i/3D/D8D016A7D559B823598755715DA0C8.jpg

Hitch
25th May 2014, 05:19 PM
The killing spree is all about the gun, the knife...meh.

What there also isn't much discussion of is that he got up close and personal* by stabbing to death THREE people he lived with and knew very well. Yikes**. But of course the gun aspect of this incident is of FAR greater importance.

*I know a 'little' about violence and I've got to tell ya, stabbing someone to death is absolutely as up close and personal as it gets - one has to be SERIOUSLY fucked up in the head to stab someone to death, ESPECIALLY someone they know (outside of genuine self-defense)

**this is precisely the sort of whacked out EXTREMELY dangerous PSYCHOPATH you need to either A) kill IMMEDIATELY upon realizing their nature, or B) run like Hell until you're a reliably safe distance from them

Something doesn't sit right with the 3 stabbing victims as well. Unless he snuck up and slit their throats really quick, how does this thin weak kid kill THREE people? I could see one, but the other two. It doesn't make sense and almost seems impossible. If he attacked one with a knife, where were the other two? This happened on a friday evening, I doubt they were asleep. Knife fights are fights, people keep fighting when stabbed.

I have a very hard time believe this.

midnight rambler
25th May 2014, 05:30 PM
Something doesn't sit right with the 3 stabbing victims as well. Unless he snuck up and slit their throats really quick, how does this thin weak kid kill THREE people? I could see one, but the other two. It doesn't make sense and almost seems impossible. If he attacked one with a knife, where were the other two? This happened on a friday evening, I doubt they were asleep. Knife fights are fights, people keep fighting when stabbed.

I have a very hard time believe this.

I've been trying to wrap my head around it myself. He struck me as very cunning (like his interaction with the SEVEN cops who showed up on the welfare check, that would have rattled most 22 y.o.s to the point of obviously being rattled), he obviously came up with a plan that worked (or so we're being told). In a small apartment setting after offing the first one how did he manage to keep the other two from picking up on the fact that he was bloodied himself (I cannot imagine stabbing someone without getting at least a noticeable amount of blood on one's self and/or clothing). Plus a stabbing victim is going to be vocalizing/making noise while struggling for sure, I can't see him doing it any other way than one at a time alone in the apartment since a death rattle is very unique and alarming sound - one that will definitely give you the impression that SOMETHING is seriously amiss if one is within earshot (even if one has never heard a death rattle before, it's a HOLY SHIT! kind of sound).

Then again, we may have all been punked...again.

Hitch
25th May 2014, 05:42 PM
I've been trying to wrap my head around it myself. He struck me as very cunning (like his interaction with the SEVEN cops who showed up on the welfare check, that would have rattled most 22 y.o.s to the point of obviously being rattled), he obviously came up with a plan that worked (or so we're being told). In a small apartment setting after offing the first one how did he manage to keep the other two from picking up on the fact that he was bloodied himself (I cannot imagine stabbing someone without getting at least a noticeable amount of blood on one's self and/or clothing). Plus a stabbing victim is going to be vocalizing/making noise while struggling for sure, I can't see him doing it any other way than one at a time alone in the apartment since a death rattle is very unique and alarming sound - one that will definitely give you the impression that SOMETHING is seriously amiss if one is within earshot (even if one has never heard a death rattle before, it's a HOLY SHIT! kind of sound).

Then again, we may have all been punked...again.

All good points, yeah I think we may have gotten punked again. The only way he could have pulled that off, imo, is if one roommate comes home, he kills him, then the other walks in the door, surprises him, and then the third one comes home.

This thin girly kid was Rambo? I think not.

Maybe he did have a heck of a plan. I'm reminded of when I was doing ER clinicals, and a family came in all slashed up by a knife like some horror movie. Blood everywhere, a mother, father, and teenage girl. They all had at least a dozen deep lacerations each. The teenage girl got help in this attack by pounding on the neighbor's doors as she went down the street screaming. Her brother, mentally snapped, and caused all that.

The point is, they all lived. As cut up as they were. I think it's really hard to kill someone with a knife. I've seen a lot of very bad knife victims that have lived. Gruesome topic, but worth discussing, because this story seems a bit too crazy to believe.

edit: Just a thought, but maybe all the roommates were drugged, or passed out drunk?

Cebu_4_2
25th May 2014, 05:48 PM
Where are the pictures of all these so called dead people?

JohnQPublic
25th May 2014, 05:58 PM
Where are the pictures of all these so called dead people?

This was my comment very early on in the Sandy Hook incident.

JohnQPublic
25th May 2014, 07:28 PM
I should mention that in Mass today, the priest said some words about one of the sorority girls who was killed, and apparently from our parish. I think the shooting was real. Not sure about who did it. In fact there was a man with a video camera in our Church as we left. I did not see any station ID, but it makes sense now.

Cebu_4_2
25th May 2014, 07:38 PM
I should mention that in Mass today, the priest said some words about one of the sorority girls who was killed, and apparently from our parish. I think the shooting was real. Not sure about who did it. In fact there was a man with a video camera in our Church as we left. I did not see any station ID, but it makes sense now.

Remember people exist when talked about or mentioned, kinda like POTUS Barry. Same deal in the Sand Hoax thing. Sometimes I take even verbal communication with a grain of salt.

Last time my wife was in church they had some Jew bitch up there preaching change to convert to jewism or whatever the fuck she was rambling. This was in a Catholic church.

JohnQPublic
25th May 2014, 07:50 PM
Where are the pictures of all these so called dead people?

Here you go. Unlike SH, there are pictures at least starting:

https://twitter.com/VictoriaSanchez/status/470319159616606209/photo/1

JohnQPublic
25th May 2014, 07:59 PM
Remember people exist when talked about or mentioned, kinda like POTUS Barry. Same deal in the Sand Hoax thing. Sometimes I take even verbal communication with a grain of salt...

I recognize at least one person who knows her (per the news stories), and I recognize another name associated with the story. I think this is real.

Cebu_4_2
25th May 2014, 08:32 PM
I wouldn't jump yet, those look like black bags to me. If someone was hired per say they could possibly be paid a lot to disappear to funville forever if they stopped chatting... Be a nice retirement and start over. Just thinking out loud man.

singular_me
25th May 2014, 09:01 PM
that is what I suggested earlier in this thread.... hollywood is a cult.



I'm thinking you might be right about mkultra. This whole incident really doesn't make sense..

singular_me
25th May 2014, 09:25 PM
while the killer supposedly was under emotional/romantic duress, the father had/has a good time

California shooting: First pictures of Elliot Rodger's victims ... (only 3 pix)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/california-shooting-first-pictures-elliot-3605188

Exclusive: “Hunger Games” Killer’s Dad Sells Art Photos of Women’s Behinds
http://www.showbiz411.com/2014/05/25/exclusive-hunger-games-killers-dad-sells-art-photos-of-womens-behinds

2 hours ago - The father of one of the victims shot by Elliot Rodger during his murderous rampage ...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/california-killings-father-of-victim-shot-by-elliot-rodger-blames-irresponsible-politicians-and-the-nra-for-sons-death-9432710.html


1 hour ago - SEE IT: Victims flee from Santa Barbara killer Elliot Rodger .
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/victims-flee-santa-barbara-shooter-video-article-1.1804940
(nothing to see here... I smell a rat)

singular_me
25th May 2014, 09:33 PM
something in a body bag ????


Here you go. Unlike SH, there are pictures at least starting:

https://twitter.com/VictoriaSanchez/status/470319159616606209/photo/1

singular_me
25th May 2014, 09:45 PM
now I see where his effeminate features come from, the mother is asian... ok

he looks like a kid severely abused or already 'programed' ... george lucas, steven spielberg are absolutely cult insiders.



His mother

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xn6gtY8W6Mc/U4EPM3d8YSI/AAAAAAAAHGI/S57G5W9525g/s1600/chinrodger.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bpLyvNyZgWE/U4EPeL9UhHI/AAAAAAAAHGY/Dl_qsi6XCFk/s1600/rodgerpeter.jpg

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bob38BWIIAAiokO.jpg:large

Cebu_4_2
26th May 2014, 01:42 AM
Ahh what a beautiful picture. Love the natural hair color and natural speaking posture. This reeks of agenda again. I believe NOTHING about this fictional story.

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9432701.ece/alternates/w620/Richard-Martinez.jpg

singular_me
26th May 2014, 10:50 AM
Mass killing all too familiar in scenic college town of Isla Vista
CNN ‎- 1 day ago
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/24/us/santa-barbara-isla-vista-shooting-profile/

strange coincidence: author of the Hunger Games lives in Newton/Sandy Hook
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oMfbZRNWMQ

Silver Rocket Bitches!
26th May 2014, 02:29 PM
Ahh what a beautiful picture. Love the natural hair color and natural speaking posture. This reeks of agenda again. I believe NOTHING about this fictional story.

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9432701.ece/alternates/w620/Richard-Martinez.jpg

I watched this guy speak and it reminded me of the crocodile tears of the SH parents. No tears to be seen yet endless sobbing. The guy even goes on to start rambling about the SH incident and as an after thought brings it back around to talk about his son.

Cebu_4_2
26th May 2014, 03:16 PM
I watched this guy speak and it reminded me of the crocodile tears of the SH parents. No tears to be seen yet endless sobbing. The guy even goes on to start rambling about the SH incident and as an after thought brings it back around to talk about his son.

He looks familiar, also the girl on the right. I wonder if they are the same crisis actors as SH?

Cebu_4_2
26th May 2014, 03:18 PM
I'm going to post the video:


http://youtu.be/1oMfbZRNWMQ

http://youtu.be/1oMfbZRNWMQ

singular_me
26th May 2014, 03:33 PM
he must have grown a beard knowing he would have to perform - or was told to grow one ???


Ahh what a beautiful picture. Love the natural hair color

Silver Rocket Bitches!
26th May 2014, 06:19 PM
The more I watch and read on this the more obvious it appears this is just another rattle of the cage to keep gun control in the forefront of the sheep minds.

Shami-Amourae
26th May 2014, 07:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce1AcFdksig

singular_me
26th May 2014, 09:21 PM
this vid says that the killer was going after blond girls... but here is a pic of him as a blond kid in elementary school. I have a little bit of a problem to imagine parents going along with bleaching hair when one is that young.

our maybe was 'everything' already going according to plan?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2639177/Parents-shooter-read-manifesto-driving-stop-son-heard-massacre-radio-revealed-investigators-search-moms-house.html
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/24/article-2638427-1E2E4A6600000578-972_634x392.jpg

Shami-Amourae
26th May 2014, 09:27 PM
Many boys at that age and time period bleached their hair and/or had spiky hair since that was the fashion trend at the time.

Hitch
26th May 2014, 09:32 PM
What doesn't make sense in Ramsy's video, was that he killed 6 people. 4 of them men. He ranted about hating blonde girls but he killed mostly men. Explain that.

Furthermore, this is Santa Barbara. Again, full beach college town. Blonde women everywhere.

But he killed men instead. I don't see this as a race issue, but more of a raving lunatic issue. Nothing about this guy makes any sense at all. From his rants, his actions, nothing.

singular_me
26th May 2014, 09:43 PM
hair color spray for temporay dye (lasting a few days) have been on the market for at lest 2 décades, but I dont feel like in the picture that it was the result of some exentricity... maybe parents' solution to protect him from discrimination as he was short and an partly eurasian...

or like I said, "programing' was already going on




Many boys at that age and time period bleached their hair and/or had spiky hair since that was the fashion trend at the time.

Shami-Amourae
26th May 2014, 10:05 PM
hair color spray for temporay dye (lasting a few days) have been on the market for at lest 2 décades, but I dont feel like in the picture that it was the result of some exentricity... maybe parents' solution to protect him from discrimination as he was short and an partly eurasian...

or like I said, "programing' was already going on

Umm no I saw a ton of Asian and Eurasian kids who did that in California. It was quite normal.

Glass
26th May 2014, 10:13 PM
white kids with light coloured hair spending a ton of time in the water will get the blonde surfer look going on. For the rest of us some hydrogen peroxide would do the trick, or turn our hair green trying. no different from african americans getting "highlights". Lotsa people did/still do it.

Shami-Amourae
26th May 2014, 11:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-viMLaobEco

singular_me
27th May 2014, 04:08 PM
2nd man/shooter theory is here to stay...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKZX_FbzGrk

JohnQPublic
27th May 2014, 06:02 PM
Any signs of a drill anywhere close or being planned?

JohnQPublic
27th May 2014, 06:13 PM
Any signs of a drill anywhere close or being planned?

Ok. Here we go:

(http://www.lompocrecord.com/news/local/education/campus-shooting-drill-staged/article_cc11fc76-0565-11e3-a4c7-001a4bcf887a.html)Campus shooting drill staged (http://www.lompocrecord.com/news/local/education/campus-shooting-drill-staged/article_cc11fc76-0565-11e3-a4c7-001a4bcf887a.html)
August 15, 2013
Lompoc schools, responders test disaster plan

"...The shooter and the victims were all portrayed by volunteers from Santa Barbara County’s Sheriff’s Explorers program. Many of the volunteers — there were about 20 — were high school students from Santa Maria, Lompoc and Santa Ynez.

“We’re just happy to help out,” said volunteer 19-year-old Matt Gruver. “With all the recent shootings, you always need to hone your tactics and everything like that. This will definitely help them out.” ..."

JohnQPublic
27th May 2014, 06:15 PM
http://youtu.be/ACbVfyTtAiA


Lompoc Drill
subtitle: What ER looks like during a drill

JohnQPublic
27th May 2014, 06:21 PM
Isla Vista Shooting: Echoes of David Attias (http://www.independent.com/news/2014/may/24/isla-vista-shooting-echoes-david-attias/)


Similarities Abound Between I.V.’s Madmen, But What Could Have Been Done?


"In 2001, Attias, then a UCSB freshman with a long history of severe mental illness, plowed his black Saab into a crowded Isla Vista street, killing four and wounding others. Attias, who was filmed at the scene hopping around the dead bodies and proclaiming himself the “angel of death,” attributed his action to frustration over lack of sexual contact."

What is going on in Santa Barbara?

willie pete
27th May 2014, 07:25 PM
just another wing-nut that snapped, the country/world is FULL of them

Awoke
28th May 2014, 06:38 AM
There's nothing anchoring this nation anymore, there's no culture, that grips and is a stronghold to keep a focus and be a guiding light for the future.


And who, pray tell, worked relentlessly in the shadows to destroy all those things, and worked ceaselessly to turn this continent into a place with no pride or identity or heritage or tradition?
That does not happen by itself. You know who's hand was behind it all.