SWAT burns baby in crib.............................. V

[Ponce]

What can I say that you are not already thinking about?
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Toddler critically burned during SWAT raid - Throws flash bang in baby's crib

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c68_1401404361


A family says a SWAT team raided its home in the middle of the night and seriously injured a 19-month-old boy with a stun grenade.

The child is at the Grady Memorial Hospital burn unit, and is in a medically induced coma. Phonesavanh said she was at her sister-in-law’s home, in Habersham County, early Wednesday when police raided the house. "It's my baby. He's only a baby. He didn't deserve any of this," Phonesavanh said.

Cornelia Police Chief Rick Darby confirmed that the raid took place at the home just before 3 a.m. He said a multijurisdictional drug unit issued a warrant and organized the SWAT operation. Deputies said they bought drugs from the house and came back with a no-knock warrant to arrest a man known to have drugs and weapons. "Everyone's sleeping. There's a loud bang and a bright light," Phonesavanh said. "The cops threw that grenade in the door without looking first and it landed right in the playpen and exploded on his pillow right in his face." They arrested Wanis Thometheva, 30, during the raid.


Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c68_1401404361#JcTL9dWGHQzf6Zm5.99

[midnight rambler]

Wow.


"The cops threw that grenade in the door without looking first and it landed right in the playpen and exploded on his pillow right in his face."

and from the other article


Hopefully he will make a full recovery.

Having a 'full recovery' after having a grenade go off right in one's face when a baby is NOT possible. Someone has been smoking crack.

Killing and maiming in the name of the law. And of course it's 'tragic accident'(ly on purpose). Really. An ACCIDENT.

[7th trump]

And these drug pusher thugs had no clue that eventually they'd be caught and swat team raided?
Not even going to mention the types of dangerous people coming to the house and buying drugs isn't putting the toddler in danger....some parents!
And now the cops are getting the blame?

Just love these people who yap their mouths off about others not taking responsibility and then you read their comments that are completely hypocrite and blame the cops....hahahahahaha.....!
Yes, very unfortunate, but clearly the blame should not rest on the cops 100%.
The cops wouldn't be there in the first place if it wasn't for the trash street thugs.......the odds are these morons are african?

[Spectrism]

Somebody tell the moron that the perp was not even in the house when they raided it.

Cowardly cops like to use shock & awe tactics as if they are in Iraq searching for WMDs.

[iOWNme]

And these drug pusher thugs had no clue that eventually they'd be caught and swat team raided?
Not even going to mention the types of dangerous people coming to the house and buying drugs isn't putting the toddler in danger....some parents!
And now the cops are getting the blame?

A vice IS NOT A CRIME.

Disobeying the scribbles of 'politicians' IS NOT A CRIME.

Voluntarily interacting with people via mutual consent IS NOT A CRIME.


BUT, being the aggressor using proactive offensive violence is IMMORAL and UNJUST which is the very definition of CRIMINAL.



Just love these people who yap their mouths off about others not taking responsibility and then you read their comments that are completely hypocrite and blame the cops....hahahahahaha.....!

Hello Pot, Meet Kettle.



Yes, very unfortunate, but clearly the blame should not rest on the cops 100%.

There you go again blaming the VICTIMS of State aggression. You are a STATIST, not a Christian. Christians do not cheer on the destruction of innocent non violent people by Satan (Man's Laws). You choose to follow Satan (Man's Laws) instead of using your own free will and conscience to figure out the world. If this EXACT same scenario played out but it was just a normal guy who threw the flash grenade you would have a completely different perspective because YOU are the hypocrite.



The cops wouldn't be there in the first place if it wasn't for the trash street thugs.......the odds are these morons are african?

Another amazing insight from a true 'Christian'.

[7th trump]

Somebody tell the moron that the perp was not even in the house when they raided it.

Cowardly cops like to use shock & awe tactics as if they are in Iraq searching for WMDs.

Doesnt matter if the perp was there or not.....drugs were purchased from that location....so naturally the police will raid the location.
Even if the perp didnt live there and conducted a drug deal at the residence while visiting it is the people who live theres fault for allowing criminal activity fully knowing there are children.....stupid stupid stupid!

This is acken in simularity to muslim terrorists using children as shields.

I notice you say nothing about the drug deal itself (the source of the problem) at the residence....these drug dealers must be hero's in your eyes?

[7th trump]

A vice IS NOT A CRIME.

Disobeying the scribbles of 'politicians' IS NOT A CRIME.

Voluntarily interacting with people via mutual consent IS NOT A CRIME.


BUT, being the aggressor using proactive offensive violence is IMMORAL and UNJUST which is the very definition of CRIMINAL.




Hello Pot, Meet Kettle.




There you go again blaming the VICTIMS of State aggression. You are a STATIST, not a Christian. Christians do not cheer on the destruction of innocent non violent people by Satan (Man's Laws). You choose to follow Satan (Man's Laws) instead of using your own free will and conscience to figure out the world. If this EXACT same scenario played out but it was just a normal guy who threw the flash grenade you would have a completely different perspective because YOU are the hypocrite.




Another amazing insight from a true 'Christian'.

My my my.....how you twist everything around!

[midnight rambler]

Doesnt matter if the perp was there or not.....drugs were purchased from that location....so naturally the police will raid the location.
Even if the perp didnt live there and conducted a drug deal at the residence while visiting it is the people who live theres fault for allowing criminal activity fully knowing there are children.....stupid stupid stupid!



The rant of a genuine dyed-in-the-wool statist. lol And yet Odie has the gall to accuse others of being Communist. Gawd how I love irony.

[iOWNme]

My my my.....how you twist everything around!


Can you please define a 'Crime'?

[madfranks]

My my my.....how you twist everything around!

Acts Chapter 4:18-19

18 So they called them and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus.
19 But Peter and John answered and said to them, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you more than to God, you judge.

The "they" in verse 18 are the "rulers of the people" (see verse 8), or in today's nomenclature, the politicians. Peter and John stated that they would obey God, not the scribbles of politicians, as iOWNme puts it. Do you think God condones armed intruders breaking into someone's home and tossing grenades at them? I do not, and in this case I would rather listen to God who condemns such behavior rather then the "rulers of the people" who say it's ok.

[7th trump]

Acts Chapter 4:18-19

18 So they called them and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus.
19 But Peter and John answered and said to them, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you more than to God, you judge.

The "they" in verse 18 are the "rulers of the people" (see verse 8), or in today's nomenclature, the politicians. Peter and John stated that they would obey God, not the scribbles of politicians, as iOWNme puts it. Do you think God condones armed intruders breaking into someone's home and tossing grenades at them? I do not, and in this case I would rather listen to God who condemns such behavior rather then the "rulers of the people" who say it's ok.

Mean while back at the ranch the drug pushers are glorified in the name of God because police are trying to stop an infection of self mutilation and destruction.

Come on Mr. Franks....lets be a bit more on target with the scripture.
The scripture you are citing is out of context.

Lets see if you can pick up on the wisdom in this scripture?
Try this scripture to see if it fits more properly as the police were unaware of the child being at the residence.
Deu 19:4


4And this is the case of the slayer, which shall flee thither, that he may live: Whoso killeth his neighbour ignorantly, whom he hated not in time past; 5As when a man goeth into the wood with his neighbour to hew wood, and his hand fetcheth a stroke with the axe to cut down the tree, and the head slippeth from the helve, and lighteth upon his neighbour, that he die; he shall flee unto one of those cities, and live: 6Lest the avenger of the blood pursue the slayer, while his heart is hot, and overtake him, because the way is long, and slay him; whereas he was not worthy of death, inasmuch as he hated him not in time past. 7Wherefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt separate three cities for thee.

[mick silver]

what go's around always come's back around in time

[madfranks]

Mean while back at the ranch the drug pushers are glorified in the name of God because police are trying to stop an infection of self mutilation and destruction.

Come on Mr. Franks....lets be a bit more on target with the scripture.
The scripture you are citing is out of context.

Lets see if you can pick up on the wisdom in this scripture?
Try this scripture to see if it fits more properly as the police were unaware of the child being at the residence.
Deu 19:4


4And this is the case of the slayer, which shall flee thither, that he may live: Whoso killeth his neighbour ignorantly, whom he hated not in time past; 5As when a man goeth into the wood with his neighbour to hew wood, and his hand fetcheth a stroke with the axe to cut down the tree, and the head slippeth from the helve, and lighteth upon his neighbour, that he die; he shall flee unto one of those cities, and live: 6Lest the avenger of the blood pursue the slayer, while his heart is hot, and overtake him, because the way is long, and slay him; whereas he was not worthy of death, inasmuch as he hated him not in time past. 7Wherefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt separate three cities for thee.






Hewing wood is honest productive work, and is not an act of aggression. Breaking into someone's house and tossing grenades at them is unquestionably an act of aggression. The difference is very important to understand. One is an accident, which is why God commands us to show them mercy, as they are "not worthy of death". The other is murder, the penalty of which is death.

The difference is explained clearly in Exodus 21:


12 He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.

13 And if a man lie not in wait, but God deliver him into his hand; then I will appoint thee a place whither he shall flee.
14 But if a man come presumptuously upon his neighbour, to slay him with guile; thou shalt take him from mine altar, that he may die.



The man "lying not in wait" that accidentally kills a man is to be shown mercy, a God-appointed place for him to flee, away from any potential avengers of blood. The man who comes "presumptuously upon his neighbour" a.k.a. breaking into his house and assaulting him such that he dies, shall be killed.

[Hillbilly]

This makes me so sick and angry. If I hurt a little baby like that, even "on the job" I would want to die, I could not live with myself. These are true sociopathic beasts!

[7th trump]

Hewing wood is honest productive work, and is not an act of aggression. Breaking into someone's house and tossing grenades at them is unquestionably an act of aggression. The difference is very important to understand. One is an accident, which is why God commands us to show them mercy, as they are "not worthy of death". The other is murder, the penalty of which is death.

The difference is explained clearly in Exodus 21:



The man "lying not in wait" that accidentally kills a man is to be shown mercy, a God-appointed place for him to flee, away from any potential avengers of blood. The man who comes "presumptuously upon his neighbour" a.k.a. breaking into his house and assaulting him such that he dies, shall be killed.

And here is where you take the scripture way way way out of context to fill your emotional void.


12 He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.

13 And if a man lie not in wait, but God deliver him into his hand; then I will appoint thee a place whither he shall flee.
14 But if a man come presumptuously upon his neighbour, to slay him withguile; thou shalt take him from mine altar, that he may die.


guile (gaɪl)

n.
insidious cunning in attaining a goal; crafty deception.

[1175–1225; Middle English < Old French < Germanic; akin to wile]

These cops weren't there to take a life...they were there to get a possible criminal and drugs off the streets and out of children and idiot adults who take drugs.
Big ass difference Franks...big ass difference I guess you cant comprehend.

The scripture you are referencing is about laying in wait to take a life.
Ask yourself this Franks....were the cops there to take a life or make an arrest?
I'm sure you're intelligent enough to make the correct discernment....but maybe I'm wrong!

[midnight rambler]

....were the cops there to take a life or make an arrest?

Spoken like a true, staunch, unyielding, bone-headed dyed-in-the-wool statist. Stalin would have been proud to have an army of this sort of psycho filling the ranks.

[7th trump]

Spoken like a true, staunch, unyielding, bone-headed dyed-in-the-wool statist. Stalin would have been proud to have an army of this sort of psycho filling the ranks.

No midnight....its a simple question that separates the just from the unjust.
It makes all the difference....an unbiased difference...something you demonstrate you cannot achieve.....true honesty!

Last I read the police raided the place because of an informant (snitch) stated he bought drugs at that location earlier in the day......it doesn't read the police knocked on a random door, for no apparent reason to take a life, any life, that you are so trying to ram down our throats as the truth.
But you being a communist sympathizer will distort and convolute the truth to fulfill an agenda...as all communists do...even the bastard zionists.
And from your demonstration you prefer to be "unjust".
You slither away from the truth quite cunningly.

[midnight rambler]

Last I read the police raided the place because of an informant (snitch) stated he bought drugs at that location earlier in the day

Well there ya go! lol Two of the MOST RELIABLE sources of info in the whole wide world - the joosmedia and some 'snitch'* who's 'truth-telling' is beyond reproach. lolololol

*an informant/snitch is usually 'cooperating' with LE because LE has some charges against the informant/snitch so you can DEPEND on that info being totally accurate since the snitch is hoping for a reduced sentence by 'cooperating' therefore a snitch would NEVER(!) lie lololololol

Man dies when informant gives cops 'ever so slightly' inaccurate info - http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95475

And here's another case of 'reliable' info coming from an informant - http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/12/18/minneapolis-swat-team-raids-wrong-house/

[7th trump]

Well there ya go! lol Two of the MOST RELIABLE sources of info in the whole wide world - the joosmedia and some 'snitch'* who's 'truth-telling' is beyond reproach. lolololol

*an informant/snitch is usually 'cooperating' with LE because LE has some charges against the informant/snitch so you can DEPEND on that info being totally accurate since the snitch is hoping for a reduced sentence by 'cooperating' therefore a snitch would NEVER(!) lie lololololol

Man dies when informant gives cops 'ever so slightly' inaccurate info - http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95475

And here's another case of 'reliable' info coming from an informant - http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/12/18/minneapolis-swat-team-raids-wrong-house/
You're just playing games now.....reaching way out there to justify your agenda.
Those cases have no bearing on this case...and changes nothing to the fact the police in this case weren't knocking on random doors and simply murdering individuals.
Those two cases don't prove these cops in this case were laying in wait to take a life at random.

Try harder midnight....try something you've never done before like looking straight into the truth!

[Cebu_4_2]

Since the other threads on the subject are currently fucked up....

Toddler In Medically Induced Coma After Police Toss Flashbang Into Crib

VIDEO: Toddler critically burned during SWAT raid

ATLANTA (WSB-TV (http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/toddler-critically-burned-during-swat-raid/nf9SJ/?GxbuEu)) — The mother of the toddler told Channel 2 Action News Friday morning that the boy remains in a medically-induced coma.

“He is in a medically induced coma and he is paralyzed. I hope he’s not going to remember this. I know his sisters, his mommy and his daddy will never forget this," the boy's mother, Alecia Phonesavanh, said. "Our kids have been through enough this year. This is just more trauma that they didn’t need, and I just wish there was something better I could do to make it better for him. Wrong place, wrong time. There’s nothing I can do about it."

The family's home in Wisconsin recently burned down, prompting their trop to Atlanta to visit family.

http://i.imgur.com/fTtfnSg.jpg (http://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/)

“There’s nothing we can do to change the situation, my husband and I would gladly both give up our lives just to see him not like this. He’s such a happy little boy, and to see him like this laying there, not moving, it’s heartbreaking. We just want to hold him and we can’t," Phonesavanh said.

A family says a SWAT team raided their home in the middle of the night and seriously injured a 19-month-old boy with a stun grenade.
Alecia Phonesavanh told Channel 2’s Ryan Young her child is at the Grady Memorial Hospital burn unit, and is in a medically induced coma.

Phonesavanh said she was at her sister-in-law’s home in Habersham County early Wednesday when police raided the house.

"It's my baby. He's only a baby. He didn't deserve any of this," Phonesavanh said.

Phonesavanh told Young the grenade landed in the child’s crib; she showed him a photo of a charred portable crib.

"It landed in his playpen and exploded on his pillow right in his face," Phonesavanh said.

She also showed Young pictures of her child in the Grady burn unit. Channel 2 has decided not to share most of the photos because of the graphic nature of the child’s injuries.

"He's in the burn unit. We go up to see him and his whole face is ripped open. He has a big cut on his chest," Phonesavanh said. "He's only 19 months old. He didn't do anything."
Cornelia police Chief Rick Darby confirmed that the raid took place at the home just before 3 a.m. He said a multijurisdictional drug unit issued a warrant and organized the SWAT operation.

Deputies said they bought drugs from the house, and came back with a no-knock warrant to arrest a man known to have drugs and weapons.
“There was no clothes, no toys, nothing to indicate that there was children present in the home. If there had been then we'd have done something different,” Darby said.

"Everyone's sleeping. There's a loud bang and a bright light," Phonesavanh said. "The cops threw that grenade in the door without looking first, and it landed right in the playpen and exploded on his pillow right in his face."

They arrested Wanis Thometheva, 30, during the raid.

Darby told Channel 2's Wendy Corona that the entire unit is very broken up about the incident.

“You're trying to minimize anything that could go wrong and in this case the greatest thing went wrong,” Darby said. “Is it going to make us be more careful in the next one? Yes ma'am, it is. It's gonna make us double question.”
The Phonesavanh family told Young they have no insurance and have set up a fund to pay for medical expenses. (http://www.gofundme.com/9mih84)

[midnight rambler]

You know Donald Trump if you keep going to the dark side of town to buy those crack rocks you're addicted to* eventually YOU will find yourself being turned into a snitch. lol

*your delusional state can only be attributed to two things imo - 1) you're a crackhead statist (which is what I think is the case) OR 2) you're a trouble-maker on Uncle Satan's payroll (less likely imo however the likelihood DOES exist)

[midnight rambler]

I fail to see how any normal man or woman could live with themselves after being a party to this. Those responsible are truly monsters. If any of them have a shred of decency or honor they would repent by quitting their 'job'.

[Cebu_4_2]

I would settle for a flashbang in their face, televised live.

[7th trump]

You know Donald Trump if you keep going to the dark side of town to buy those crack rocks you're addicted to* eventually YOU will find yourself being turned into a snitch. lol

*your delusional state can only be attributed to two things imo - 1) you're a crackhead statist (which is what I think is the case) OR 2) you're a trouble-maker on Uncle Satan's payroll (less likely imo however the likelihood DOES exist)

Answer this one question.
Why were the police summoned to raid the house in the first place?

A. To murder randomly.
B. To take a known drug pusher off the streets.

Answer it honestly...if that's even possible!

[7th trump]

I fail to see how any normal man or woman could live with themselves after being a party to this. Those responsible are truly monsters. If any of them have a shred of decency or honor they would repent by quitting their 'job'.
Who you shitting midnight?
If anybody on this board should know.........its you.

The communist you defend have done far far far worse on a global scale than the police unknowingly letting off a flash bang in a toddlers crib in a purported drug house.

[Camp Bassfish]

Accepted globally, just not in my crib. (Or my kids)

[Hitch]

I think it's unfair to assume the officers involved in this sad situation don't feel like shit. I would hope, and think, each one involved in this is at home questioning things, praying hopefully, seeking guidance, etc.

You don't do a no knock raid on folks who aren't the worst of the worst.

Think about who LE attracts to recruit. Young men, full of testosterone, who want to be the big hero. They want to make a difference, catch bad guys, the adrenaline rush, and going home at the end of the shift with that feeling of "I don't have a normal job".

So, they flash bang some home and raid it, because they are told, these people are evil inside that house and we need to save the day. Then, they find out they flash banged a baby...

This is just, hopefully some understanding from the "other side of the fence". These raids, are done, so they could hopefully catch the bad guys off guard, and where wouldn't be any violence.

To knock on the door in the middle of the day, and say "Hi, I'm mr. officer and I have a warrant for your arrest, we have your house surrounded" That would lead to a massive shootout where both the bad guys and the cops would die.

There are bad guys out there in this world. Don't think the cops don't come across them. You folks haven't seen them, I guarantee it. If you have, you'd be more objective, imo.

[madfranks]

So, they flash bang some home and raid it, because they are told, these people are evil inside that house and we need to save the day. Then, they find out they flash banged a baby...

At this point a rational man would question whether or not the man inside was the evil one, or if he was the evil one for blowing a baby's face off. A rational man would realize that breaking into someone's personal home and attacking their baby makes them more of a bad guy than the man selling product to voluntary customers, even though you personally do not like what he is selling. I don't care if the higher ups say the cop who blew the baby's face apart is the good guy, I am not naive enough to believe that.

[madfranks]

And who exactly did the cops need to "save the day" from? Who was it that this man was hurting? I wish someone was there to "save the day" for the poor innocent baby who's now in a coma from this brutal attack.

[Hitch]

And who exactly did the cops need to "save the day" from? Who was it that this man was hurting? .

The article doesn't say. The man, according to the police, must have been a threat to someone, everyone, to necessitate a no knock warrant to be issued for his immediate arrest.

Basically, he was a threat. A big one, according to LE. That's all I know.

[midnight rambler]

you don't do a no knock raid on folks who aren't the worst of the worst.

...bullshit!



man dies when informant gives cops 'ever so slightly' inaccurate info - http://abcnews.go.com/us/story?id=95475

and here's another case of 'reliable' info coming from an informant - http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/12/18/minneapolis-swat-team-raids-wrong-house/

[Spectrism]

The article doesn't say. The man, according to the police, must have been a threat to someone, everyone, to necessitate a no knock warrant to be issued for his immediate arrest.

Basically, he was a threat. A big one, according to LE. That's all I know.

Oh yeah... a drug dealer. That is his crime without evidence. Some slime fingered him as the drug dealer. OK... so how much of a drug haul did they find at the house? A big time dealer surely has a supply. What did they find?

Oh, they found some poor people and a baby. Frustrating. No dog to shoot.

[midnight rambler]

Frustrating. No dog to shoot.

They fragged a baby, that earns more points with Satan than shooting or stomping the family pet to death.

[7th trump]

Answer this one question.
Why were the police summoned to raid the house in the first place?

A. To murder randomly.
B. To take a known drug pusher off the streets.

Answer it honestly...if that's even possible!

I didn't think Midnight Rambler would answer that simple little question above.

It speaks volumes of who and what type of character midnight rambler is.....he wont touch a question that exposes him...imagine that!
If he was to answer it most likely it wouldn't have been honestly, so he keeps his yap closed!

[Horn]

Another case of law enforcement using tools unavailable to civilians gone wrong.

[Spectrism]

I didn't think Midnight Rambler would answer that simple little question above.

It speaks volumes of who and what type of character midnight rambler is.....he wont touch a question that exposes him...imagine that!
If he was to answer it most likely it wouldn't have been honestly, so he keeps his yap closed!

Why don't you just shut up Trump? You are a freekin embarrassment.

Here is the drug dealer they came for:

http://www.policestateusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Alecia-Phonesavanh-1.jpg

[Spectrism]

And here is their achievement after all their hard efforts:

http://www.policestateusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Alecia-Phonesavanh-2.jpg

[Santa]

This makes me so sick and angry. If I hurt a little baby like that, even "on the job" I would want to die, I could not live with myself. These are true sociopathic beasts!

Every one of the perps in uniform who contributed to this atrocity should stuff a flash grenade in their mouth and pull the pin. To save face.

[Spectrism]

Every one of the perps in uniform who contributed to this atrocity should stuff a flash grenade in their mouth and pull the pin. To save face.

At least give them a choice. An alternate is they can wear some nice whitey-tighteys and detonate a flash-bang their pants... front side... with feet shoulder width apart.

Or... they can surrender their government pensions and half their future earnings to the family of this child and cover all medical costs. Civil law suits additional.

[mick silver]

so your telling me the guy they were looking for NEVER leaves his house ? come on hitch they could of took the guy down any time out of his home if he was a drug dealer like they are saying . I just know if I was taking him down I would want him outside with me . it would be safer for all

[Horn]

so your telling me the guy they were looking for NEVER leaves his house ? come on hitch they could of took the guy down any time out of his home if he was a drug dealer like they are saying

They want to catch him before he flushes his contraban, while using their own form of flashbang contraban.

[7th trump]

Why don't you just shut up Trump? You are a freekin embarrassment.

Here is the drug dealer they came for:

http://www.policestateusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Alecia-Phonesavanh-1.jpg

Now you're just making up lies spectrism.......I thought satan was your father after all....now we have proof satan is your father. Hes the father of all lies and you are following your fathers footsteps of speaking lies.
Just look at you defending drug dealers by hiding behind children to sway the readers to agree with your lies!

Hahahaha....the truth hurts those who hate righteousness....therefore spectrism wants me to shut up......the truth hurts him.

Why not answer the question midnight refuses to answer.


Why were the police summoned to raid a residence.

A. To randomly flash bomb a innocent child
B. to rid the streets of a known drug dealer

Answer the question honestly if you can spectrism?
I bet you cant without injecting some sort of propaganda lie to twist the truth around.
Its either A or B....so what is it?

[Santa]

Why were the police summoned to raid a residence

A. To randomly flash bomb a innocent child
B. to rid the streets of a known drug dealer

C. To extort, intimidate and steal for financial gain. It's what all gang members do.

[Spectrism]

Now you're just making up lies spectrism.......I thought satan was your father after all....now we have proof satan is your father. Hes the father of all lies and you are following your fathers footsteps of speaking lies.
Just look at you defending drug dealers by hiding behind children to sway the readers to agree with your lies!


And now you bring judgment on yourself. You will be hearing from my Father.

[midnight rambler]

so your telling me the guy they were looking for NEVER leaves his house ? come on hitch they could of took the guy down any time out of his home if he was a drug dealer like they are saying . I just know if I was taking him down I would want him outside with me . it would be safer for all

That would require time and patience and of course:

"We don't have time for this."

[7th trump]

And now you bring judgment on yourself. You will be hearing from my Father.

Hahahahahaha....
Looky looky here....specy here knows I have him cornered into telling the truth with that question I posed him and hes refusing the question even exists.
So he goes and acts just like a little child does..."I'm going to tell mommy on you...yada yada yada!".

Spec.........grow the fuck up!

Watch what you ask for spec.....the Father is highly intelligent and doesn't just do as you or anyone wishes...it might all just back fire back onto you.
I highly doubt anything will come of it.....cause you aren't being honest from the beginning.
After all you said the child is who the police came for which is not true...but a lie.

[Cebu_4_2]

Specs right, your wrong. Send in the friendly police to sort this bullshit out.. bet you lose.

[Hitch]

so your telling me the guy they were looking for NEVER leaves his house ? come on hitch they could of took the guy down any time out of his home if he was a drug dealer like they are saying . I just know if I was taking him down I would want him outside with me . it would be safer for all

mick, I've just been posting information, that's all. What police do. I've left my own personal opinion out of this thread. Do you want my opinion?

I agree with you. I'm against swat raids on people's homes, or personal invasions. I think it's a bad tactic. The only time I agree with it is in situation were innocent lives are immediately threatened and there's no time to wait out the arrest. I think swat raids should be a last resort. Catching a drug dealer is not a last resort.

[midnight rambler]

Playing cowboys and drug dealers is good for only two things - rendering the police state a growth industry and job security for thugs with badges. IF the pushers of heavy-handed 'police' tactics were TRULY concerned* about the flow of narcotics then they would go to the top and cut the head off the snake starting with the Cocaine Importation Agency and the politicians who profit from the flow of narcotics (e.g. the Bushco Crime Syndicate).

*I submit this type is too fucking stupid to be concerned about anything other than their career/paycheck and their pension

[7th trump]

Playing cowboys and drug dealers is good for only two things - rendering the police state a growth industry and job security for thugs with badges. IF the pushers of heavy-handed 'police' tactics were TRULY concerned* about the flow of narcotics then they would go to the top and cut the head off the snake starting with the Cocaine Importation Agency and the politicians who profit from the flow of narcotics (e.g. the Bushco Crime Syndicate).

*I submit this type is too fucking stupid to be concerned about anything other than their career/paycheck and their pension

Why wont you answer my question Midnight?
What are you scared of?
Are you scared the truth might convict you as being not as intelligent as you made yourself out to be?

[Spectrism]

Why wont you answer my question Midnight?
What are you scared of?
Are you scared the truth might convict you as being not as intelligent as you made yourself out to be?

Trump, why don't you pick a fight with a wheel-chair bound grandmother?
A. You are afraid you will lose.
B. You might enjoy it too much.

Now answer the question. A or B. I know this is hard because you want to choose both, but you can only pick one.

[7th trump]

Trump, why don't you pick a fight with a wheel-chair bound grandmother?
A. You are afraid you will lose.
B. You might enjoy it too much.

Now answer the question. A or B. I know this is hard because you want to choose both, but you can only pick one.

I would never pick on the elderly like that.
Whats wrong with you to suggest such a thing?

What are you afraid of specy?
Why the defensive posture?
Are you afraid of "common sense" and "reasoning" as well since you refuse to answer the same question?

Got your tits in a ringer don't you spec boy?
Yep you sure do!
Apparently you must equate midnight ramblers intellect to the elderly in a wheel chair to even compare the two.

[Spectrism]

Didn't answer the question, did you Trumpster? Are you afraid to?
Why are you so defensive? The answer is easy if you have a little common sense.

Maybe you compare an 18 month old boy to a drug dealer. I suppose you figure cops are reasonable to shoot up a whole neighborhood if there are some suspected drug dealers there.

[midnight rambler]

I would never pick on the elderly like that.

Yeah, but toddlers are fair game. lol

[midnight rambler]

Salivatin' like Pavlov's dog -

http://www.mydogrulez.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/odie.jpg

Now speak Odie, SPEAK!

[7th trump]

Didn't answer the question, did you Trumpster? Are you afraid to?
Why are you so defensive? The answer is easy if you have a little common sense.

Maybe you compare an 18 month old boy to a drug dealer. I suppose you figure cops are reasonable to shoot up a whole neighborhood if there are some suspected drug dealers there.

I asked you days ago and you still refuse to answer.......and now you are playing games.
I answered it your question before you even posted your question.
And no I'm not in the defensive....stop putting words in my mouth.
I said it was unfortunate the little one was caught in the middle of it....its not the little guys fault... but the parents for allowing a known drug dealer in their house who made a drug deal at the location...stupid ...stupid...stupid and not much for responsible parents.

No I didnt compare an 18 month old to a drug dealer....but you certainly did to win over the "emotions" of others that the cops are the bad guys!
What you did was use a little child as a shield/means to gain influence....not actually a very honest thing to do now is it?
No, of course not!
You play politician using hurt children to gain votes for an agenda that all cops are bad and all drug dealers are good and victims....and then try and peg that somehow on my behalf the todler as a drug dealer.
Not a good idea to call God into this one when you are the one caught playing satanic truth twisting games.

Do you use little children all the time to gain things specy?

[7th trump]

Yeah, but toddlers are fair game. lol

Keep playing your games....notice not many people are paying attention to you...and now you are being addressed as a "comrade".
Hmmm.....not everyone is as stupid as you think to believe you're not a communist.

[midnight rambler]

Good boy! Here's a treat for you!

http://www.stayathomemum.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/dog-biscuits1.jpg

[vacuum]

These no-knock warrants are such complete bullshit. Cowardly thugs enforcing evil laws. The people who perpetrate this are subhuman.

[Spectrism]

Come on Trump. Are you afraid to answer?
And why do you keep saying all cops are bad? You are always too defensive. All cops are good. You got good guys and bad guys. The cops are the good guys and the babies in cribs are the bad guys. Let's get this straight so we know who to cheer for.

[7th trump]

Come on Trump. Are you afraid to answer?
And why do you keep saying all cops are bad? You are always too defensive. All cops are good. You got good guys and bad guys. The cops are the good guys and the babies in cribs are the bad guys. Let's get this straight so we know who to cheer for.
Wow....do you distort and lie.....satan really is your father when it comes right down to it.

This isn't about me....this is about you not going to the source of why the police raided the location and you want the heat taken off you.
The child is collateral damage do to these parents allowing a known drug dealer in their home conducting drug business.
Its apparent you'll defend the drug dealers.

Like I said before...you fools are a dangerous to be around.

[midnight rambler]

you fools are a dangerous to be around. (sic)

That would make you an even bigger fool for exercising poor judgement by keeping what YOU consider 'bad company'. lol

[7th trump]

That would make you an even bigger fool for exercising poor judgement by keeping what YOU consider 'bad company'.

Finally found a pic of GS-US resident cheerleader.....................midnight rambler!!

6403

[Horn]

What's with the USAF mockery avatar anyways, trumpster?

[Hitch]

I swear, this forum has the most opinionated folks on the whole internet.

[midnight rambler]

I post images of happy doggies and Donald Trump posts an image of a transvestite. Hmmm...reminds me of -

"Queer minds think queer thoughts." --Dr. Rosenbloom (a shrink who was the father of a classmate in school)

[midnight rambler]

Back on topic -

SWAT needs some lovin' too!!! Don't be hatin' on SWAT!!! (this should really please a couple of folks) -

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/30/us/georgia-toddler-injured-stun-grenade-drug-raid/

[midnight rambler]

My preference is as a spectator in the nosebleed section when He smites the assholes of the world for what they've been up to -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owx3ao42kwI

[midnight rambler]

Back on topic -

SWAT needs some lovin' too!!! Don't be hatin' on SWAT!!! (this should really please a couple of folks) -

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/30/us/georgia-toddler-injured-stun-grenade-drug-raid/

I really like this part -


Thonetheva was arrested at another Cornelia residence, along with three other people, shortly after the raid, Terrell said. He is charged with distribution of methamphetamine. Habersham County Chief Assistant District Attorney J. Edward Staples said Thonetheva could also be charged in connection with the baby's injuries.

Jus' some collateral damage* there, that's all. So what are ya gonna do? Why press charges against the perp who wasn't even at the scene of course! (Talk about pushing out the limits on absurdity)

*damage to the collateral...oops!

[Spectrism]

Wow....do you distort and lie.....satan really is your father when it comes right down to it.

This isn't about me....this is about you not going to the source of why the police raided the location and you want the heat taken off you.
The child is collateral damage do to these parents allowing a known drug dealer in their home conducting drug business.
Its apparent you'll defend the drug dealers.

Like I said before...you fools are a dangerous to be around.

I played a little game Mr Trump. You see, I study people for a living and make my money understanding how they think. Two things happening here: projection and mirroring. I saw you projecting your "condition" on others and falsely accusing them of things that you owned.

So, I played a little "game" of mirroring. I mirrored you. I said the kinds of things you have been saying. I put your face in front of YOU. I played the the Trump card.

Your response? You called your reflection a liar among other things. Thanks for proving my point Trump.

And you know... I already know what your response will be. I also have played many games of chess. You have only one honorable move, but the move you make will be entirely your choice.

[Cebu_4_2]

Complete Bullshit!!!


Because the suspected drug dealer, Wanis Thonetheva, had a previous weapons charge, officers were issued a "no-knock warrant" for the residence, Terrell said.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/140530120910-wanis-thonetheva-story-body.jpeg
Wanis Thonetheva is being held without bond.


When the SWAT team hit the home's front door with a battering ram, it resisted as if something was up against it, the sheriff said, so one of the officers threw the flash-bang grenade inside the residence.
Once inside the house, the SWAT team realized it was a portable playpen blocking the door, and the flash-bang grenade had landed inside where the 19-month-old was sleeping, the sheriff said.
A medic on the scene rushed the baby outside to administer first aid, and a nearby ambulance was summoned. Authorities wanted to transport the baby via Life Flight to Atlanta's Grady Memorial Hospital, 75 miles southwest of Cornelia, but weather conditions wouldn't allow it. The baby was driven to the hospital


No officers have been suspended, and Staples said he expects the review of the incident -- being conducted by Mountain Judicial Circuit District Attorney Brian Rickman -- to take about a week.

[7th trump]

I played a little game Mr Trump. You see, I study people for a living and make my money understanding how they think. Two things happening here: projection and mirroring. I saw you projecting your "condition" on others and falsely accusing them of things that you owned.

So, I played a little "game" of mirroring. I mirrored you. I said the kinds of things you have been saying. I put your face in front of YOU. I played the the Trump card.

Your response? You called your reflection a liar among other things. Thanks for proving my point Trump.

And you know... I already know what your response will be. I also have played many games of chess. You have only one honorable move, but the move you make will be entirely your choice.
Nope try again grasshopper!
I don't play games. I haven't changed my view point one bit. And haven't moved from my view point that its the parents of this child who is to blame...not the police.
What you want is to place the blame on the police when the perp drug dealer has a history with the police...one I wouldn't take lightly....and neither would you clown!

Now you can continue to play your silly mirror games and pretend all you want....all its doing is slowly, but surely, ruining you creditability.
Keep playing games clown.

[7th trump]

Complete Bullshit!!!

Yep.....a known drug dealer and has a history of weapons charges!
yeah...this idiot isn't all about himself at all....much less the little guy....bet he doesn't even give a shit what happened to the little guy either....all because he made a drug deal at the location of a child....didn't think about the consequences at all....just himself...a quick deal and down the road he goes.
Wonder what kind of weapons charge it was....drive by shooting...gang related....drug related?

Anybody who blames the police for this child's injury's is a damn stupid fool.
And I'd bet if this guy shot a few police officers you fools would hale this piece of shit drug dealing street thug.......a hero!
I know Spectrism most certainly is.

[madfranks]

1. Pharmacists are drug dealers too, yet their babies are not subject to being hit with grenades. Why? Because scribbles of politicians declare that certain drugs are good, and other drugs are bad. Note that the list of approved vs. unapproved drugs is arbitrary and changes all the time. Last year in Colorado a SWAT team could have tossed a grenade into a mans house for growing weed and they would have cheered it as justice. This year if that same man is growing weed and you throw a grenade at him, you would go to jail for attempted murder. What changed between then and now? Did morality change? Did right and wrong change? No, the scribbles of politicians changed. Which is why most here see through the bullshit and don't believe this "drug dealer" was worthy of a full on assault on his family.

2. Weapons charges? Again, the scribbles of politicians change year to year. Take Colorado again; last year if you had a 30 rd magazine, you are a morally upstanding citizen. This year if you have a 30 rd magazine you are a criminal trafficking in illegal weapons. Does the man who is ignorant of this new change in policy deserve a grenade to his baby's face for weapons charges?

3. Can't blame the cops for this? They're the ones who threw the grenade at a baby, doesn't matter if they didn't know the baby was there or not. If you, personally, tossed a grenade into a residential home and it struck a baby, do you think it would be a viable defense for you to say it's not your fault because you didn't know the baby was there?

[7th trump]

From reading another website about the same incident...this street thug criminal is a meth dealer.
However, you're in luck, I didn't verify.

If true, how does it feel that you guys associate yourselves with meth and meth pushers?
Do you feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing you agree with people destroying themselves and the suppliers getting a profit from it?
I thought you guys dispised the CIA bringing in drugs for profit....looks like deep down it really is just a dog and pony show you're putting on.

[midnight rambler]

I had no idea that having a chronic crack smoking habit for years would have such a noticeable impact on someone's brain chemistry. Wow. You learn something new everyday.

[EE_]

From reading another website about the same incident...this street thug criminal is a meth dealer.
However, you're in luck, I didn't verify.

If true, how does it feel that you guys associate yourselves with meth and meth pushers?
Do you feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing you agree with people destroying themselves and the suppliers getting a profit from it?
I thought you guys dispised the CIA bringing in drugs for profit....looks like deep down it really is just a dog and pony show you're putting on.

We need to get those cigarette pushers off the street next! Cigarettes are very addictive!
I hate seeing people destroying themselves and the suppliers getting a profit from it.

Flash-bang grenade needed here?
https://www.oneidaretail.com/pdf/image/Page%20Images/SmokeShop1.jpg

[7th trump]

I had no idea that having a chronic crack smoking habit for years would have such a noticeable impact on someone's brain chemistry. Wow. You learn something new everyday.

Coming from a guy who defends communists.....hahahahahahaha!
Never met a commie who didn't lie to gain something.

You and spectrism brothers? You both claim the father of all lies as your daddy!

[madfranks]

From reading another website about the same incident...this street thug criminal is a meth dealer.
However, you're in luck, I didn't verify.

If true, how does it feel that you guys associate yourselves with meth and meth pushers?
Do you feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing you agree with people destroying themselves and the suppliers getting a profit from it?
I thought you guys dispised the CIA bringing in drugs for profit....looks like deep down it really is just a dog and pony show you're putting on.

I personally do not like meth and would never advocate that anyone use it or buy it. But that does not mean I want to break into the sellers home, attack his family, kidnap him and put him in a cage. And the truth is, most people would not do it either, but most people are happy to let the cops do the dirty work for them. They are true hypocrites.

[midnight rambler]

There's no way that anyone on this forum has a more extreme view of tweakers than me however NOTHING can justify doing what the thugs with badges and without consciences did in this case and are doing routinely elsewhere.

[Hitch]

These no-knock warrants are such complete bullshit. Cowardly thugs enforcing evil laws. The people who perpetrate this are subhuman.

This, ^^, is the crux of this whole thread. The no knock warrant. Seems this type of warrant has been massive abused in our system.

There was 3000 no knock warrants in 1981. In 2005, there was 50,000 of them. How many are there now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_knock_warrant

[Horn]

This, ^^, is the crux of this whole thread. The no knock warrant. Seems this type of warrant has been massive abused in our system.

There was 3000 no knock warrants in 1981. In 2005, there was 50,000 of them. How many are there now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_knock_warrant

The abuse IS the no knock warrant.

[mick silver]

what every body here needs to think about here is the no-knock warrant could happen to anyone here for no reason , just cause someone makes a call to the cops saying he are she doing something wrong

[madfranks]

what every body here needs to think about here is the no-knock warrant could happen to anyone here for no reason , just cause someone makes a call to the cops saying he are she doing something wrong

It's a very dangerous catch-22 we have now. If you suffer a home invasion and defend yourself, if it's the cops you are dead. If you suffer a home invasion and surrender, and it's not cops, you're dead. In the heat of the moment, there's no way to know what you're dealing with, and if you guess wrong, you're dead.

[Ponce]

Because twice the Zionist have told me to take my sign down I would 1= get hurt and my home would catch fire and 2= I would die ........ that's one of the reason that I got my land patent.....as far as I am concern anyone in my private property is a Zionist trying to do me harm and I feel that I should protect myself BEFORE they have a chance to hurt me.........by the way, the part about getting hurt and my home catching fire? is in the police record and my attorney.....and like I said before, even the city mayor and council knows about my land patent.

V

[madfranks]

Ponce, I've been intrigued by your land patent adventure for a long time, but my family and I live in a suburban home from which we plan to move in the near future. Once we are in a better position, I look forward to getting my own land patent too.