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Cebu_4_2
9th June 2014, 04:18 PM
Game Changer: FDA Rules No Wooden Boards in Cheese Aging

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A sense of disbelief and distress is quickly rippling through the U.S. artisan cheese community, as the federal Food and Drug Administration (FDA) this week announced it will not permit American cheesemakers to age cheese on wooden boards.

Recently, the FDA inspected several New York state cheesemakers and cited them for using wooden surfaces to age their cheeses. The New York State Department of Agriculture & Markets' Division of Milk Control and Dairy Services, which (like most every state in the U.S., including Wisconsin), has allowed this practice, reached out to FDA for clarification on the issue. A response was provided by Monica Metz, Branch Chief of FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition's (CFSAN) Dairy and Egg Branch.

In the response, Metz stated that the use of wood for cheese ripening or aging is considered an unsanitary practice by FDA, and a violation of FDA's current Current Good Manufacturing Practice (cGMP) regulations. Here's an excerpt:

"Microbial pathogens can be controlled if food facilities engage in good manufacturing practice. Proper cleaning and sanitation of equipment and facilities are absolutely necessary to ensure that pathogens do not find niches to reside and proliferate. Adequate cleaning and sanitation procedures are particularly important in facilities where persistent strains of pathogenic microorganisms like Listeria monocytogenes could be found. The use of wooden shelves, rough or otherwise, for cheese ripening does not conform to cGMP requirements, which require that "all plant equipment and utensils shall be so designed and of such material and workmanship as to be adequately cleanable, and shall be properly maintained." 21 CFR 110.40(a). Wooden shelves or boards cannot be adequately cleaned and sanitized. The porous structure of wood enables it to absorb and retain bacteria, therefore bacteria generally colonize not only the surface but also the inside layers of wood. The shelves or boards used for aging make direct contact with finished products; hence they could be a potential source of pathogenic microorganisms in the finished products."

The most interesting part of the FDA's statement it that it does not consider this to be a new policy, but rather an enforcement of an existing policy. And worse yet, FDA has reiterated that it does not intend to change this policy.

In an email to industry professionals, Rob Ralyea, Senior Extension Associate in the Department of Food Science and the Pilot Plant Manager at Cornell University in New York, says: "According to the FDA this is merely proper enforcement of the policy that was already in place. While the FDA has had jurisdiction in all food plants, it deferred cheese inspections almost exclusively to the states. This has all obviously changed under FSMA."

Ah, FSMA. For those of you not in the know, the Food Safety Modernization Act (http://www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceRegulation/FSMA/default.htm) is the most sweeping reform of American food safety laws in generations. It was signed into law by President Obama on January 4, 2011 and aims to ensure the U.S. food supply is safe by shifting the focus from responding to contamination to preventing it.

While most cheesemakers have, perhaps, begrudgingly accepted most of what has been coming down the FSMA pike, including the requirement of HACCP plans and increased federal regulations and inspections, no one expected this giant regulation behemoth to virtually put a stop to innovation in the American artisanal cheese movement.

Many of the most awarded and well-respected American artisan cheeses are currently aged on wooden boards. American Cheese Society triple Best in Show winner Pleasant Ridge Reserve from Uplands Cheese in Wisconsin is cured on wooden boards. Likewise for award-winners Cabot Clothbound in Vermont, current U.S. Champion cheese Marieke Feonegreek, and 2013 Best in Show Runner-Up Bleu Mont Bandaged Cheddar.

Wisconsin cheesemaker Chris Roelli says the FDA's "clarified" stance on using wooden boards is a "potentially devastating development" for American cheesemakers. He and his family have spent the past eight years re-building Roelli Cheese into a next-generation American artisanal cheese factory. Just last year, he built what most would consider to be a state-of-the-art aging facility into the hillside behind his cheese plant. And Roelli, like hundreds of American artisanal cheesemaekrs, has developed his cheese recipes specifically to be aged on wooden boards.

"The very pillar that we built our niche business on is the ability to age our cheese on wood planks, an art that has been practiced in Europe for thousands of years," Roelli says. Not allowing American cheesemakers to use this practice puts them "at a global disadvantage because the flavor produced by aging on wood can not be duplicated. This is a major game changer for the dairy industry in Wisconsin, and many other states."

As if this weren't all bad enough, the FDA has also "clarified" - I'm really beginning to dislike that word - that in accordance with FSMA, a cheesemaker importing cheese to the United States is subject to the same rules and inspection procedures as American cheesemakers.

Therefore, Cornell University's Ralyea says, "It stands to reason that if an importer is using wood boards, the FDA would keep these cheeses from reaching our borders until the cheese maker is in compliance. The European Union authorizes and allows the use of wood boards. Further, the great majority of cheeses imported to this country are in fact aged on wooden boards and some are required to be aged on wood by their standard of identity (Comte, Beaufort and Reblochon, to name a few). Therefore, it will be interesting to see how these specific cheeses will be dealt with when it comes to importation into the United States."

Ralyea continues: "While most everyone agrees that Listeria is a major concern to the dairy industry, it appears that some food safety agencies interpret the science to show that wood boards can be maintained in a sanitary fashion to allow for their use for cheese aging, while others (e.g., the US FDA) believe that a general ban of any wooden materials in food processing facilities is the better approach to assure food safety. At this point, it seems highly unlikely that any new research data or interpretations will change the FDA policies in place."

In fact, many research papers do in fact conclude that wooden boards are safe. In 2013, the Wisconsin Center for Dairy Research published a paper on the subject, concluding: "Considering the beneficial effects of wood boards on cheese ripening and rind formation, the use of wood boards does not seem to present any danger of contamination by pathogenic bacteria as long as a thorough cleaning procedure is followed." You can read the whole report on pages 8-9 by clicking on this link (https://www.cdr.wisc.edu/sites/default/files/pipelines/2013/pipeline_2013_vol25_01.pdf).

Interesting side note: Health Canada does not currently have any regulations prohibiting aging and ripening cheese on wood, so apparently if we want to eat most American or European artisan cheeses, we'll need to drive across the border to do so.

So what's next? The American Cheese Society has mobilized its Regulatory & Academic Committee to learn more about this issue, and to ensure its members' interests are represented. The ACS promises to keep us apprised of developments. In the meantime, if you are a cheesemaker, and your operation is inspected and cited for the use of wooden surfaces, please contact the ACS office (720-328-2788 or info@cheesesociety.org).

Publico
9th June 2014, 07:43 PM
Proof the federal government wants to kill off any industry in the U.S.

Dogman
9th June 2014, 07:50 PM
Better start banning many brands of cheese. Many microorganisms that have worked their ass's off over the century's making and giving the flavor of the different species of cheese.

If this thing is true, the ones that voted for it need to be placed in rubber boxes and have their brains examined for stupidity.

willie pete
9th June 2014, 08:19 PM
a list of the various levels of foreign "matter" in foods the FDA Allows........from mold to rodent hairs ::) (I Never did like Maraschino Cherries, Glad I Don't)

http://www.fda.gov/food/guidanceregulation/guidancedocumentsregulatoryinformation/sanitationtransportation/ucm056174.htm

Dogman
9th June 2014, 08:23 PM
a list of the various levels of foreign "matter" in foods the FDA Allows........from mold to rodent hairs ::) (I Never did like Maraschino Cherries, Glad I Don't)

http://www.fda.gov/food/guidanceregulation/guidancedocumentsregulatoryinformation/sanitationtransportation/ucm056174.htm


Have not seen any recent ones, but the one I saw 30 years ago is enough to make the pope swear off praying!

Glass
9th June 2014, 08:37 PM
yoghurt will be next. Any source of "Good" bacteria must be eliminated.

Its like an EU treaty directive or something. You can't make champagne unless you are in he region of champagne. Anyone else has to call their sparkler wines something else. We had that problem down here about 2o years ago. Had to change the name of some beverages because they were not made in the region that the style was named after.

Or the other EU directive which banned bananas that were not straight. All bananas had to be bend free.

then there was the one about the sausages and so it goes on. But this is competition. The big food companies do not want any competition for their silicone based cheese flavoured goop. And they certainly don't want to compete with actual cheese. Too much like hard work.

I think there should be an exemption for this type of thing. Artisian foods.

Cebu_4_2
9th June 2014, 08:45 PM
In the USi they banned wooden cutting boards and utensils 30+ years ago based on the same reasoning. Put smaller companies away. So cheese manufacturers that have did the same for 500 years are now the enemy?? Nice to live in a free world huh.

Glass
9th June 2014, 09:13 PM
yes.... the chopping boards. You have to have a minimum of 3 chopping boards now. A white one, a green one, a yellow one and a red one. I was taught Core Math so that's ok.

I can see that whiskey is going to loose it's flavour soon. Some rule about wood no doubt.

And what's going to happen to all those blue cheese induced dreams?

I think the yellow one is for dairy isn't it? Maybe it's seafood. Do I still need it or can I get away with only 2 cutting boards? The white one, the green one and the red one.

BrewTech
9th June 2014, 09:20 PM
Thank goodness the FDA didn't exist for the last several thousand years, or the human race would have become extinct under its regulation.

Glass
9th June 2014, 09:28 PM
Thank goodness the FDA didn't exist for the last several thousand years, or the human race would have become extinct under its regulation.

Quick question BT if I may, Can I add more yeast to my secondary fermenter or is it too late now it's dry hopping? Cheers.

BrewTech
10th June 2014, 07:24 AM
Quick question BT if I may, Can I add more yeast to my secondary fermenter or is it too late now it's dry hopping? Cheers.



I'm thinking you would have to start the yeast prior to adding it if you were going to derive any benefit. Adding dry yeast to an already fermented batch would probably do more harm than good, as the yeast wouldn't have much nutrition to grow on. If you could get your hands on some liquid yeast you might be better off, but I would just run this one and make changes next go-around. It's still beer!

gunny highway
10th June 2014, 08:02 AM
This is just another example of the .gov "fixing" something that isn't broken so that they can justify their existence and make it look like they are doing something. Meanwhile, the gigantic meatpacking plants and CAFOs go uninspected and the GMO companies continue their practices unchecked, which causes untold sickness and death every day. But I can't have a piece of properly aged cheese. Has anyone told the regulators that cheese is controlled spoilage and that it needs the very bacteria and microorganisms that they are trying to "protect" us from? I hope Cabot says fuck you and continues to use wood shelves to age.

gunny highway
10th June 2014, 08:08 AM
a list of the various levels of foreign "matter" in foods the FDA Allows........from mold to rodent hairs ::) (I Never did like Maraschino Cherries, Glad I Don't)

http://www.fda.gov/food/guidanceregulation/guidancedocumentsregulatoryinformation/sanitationtransportation/ucm056174.htm

I'm sure that rodent hair is generally free of pathogens, because rodents are so clean. /sarc/ But I can't have a piece of properly aged cheese?!!!

Twisted Titan
10th June 2014, 11:04 AM
When cheese making is outlawed.....only outlaws will make cheese.

Twisted Titan
10th June 2014, 11:08 AM
Oh yeah, before you get lost in the insanity of the issue..... guess jew said you cant make cheese?

A response was provided by Monica Metz, Branch Chief of FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition's (CFSAN) Dairy and Egg Branch.In the response, Metz stated that the use of wood for cheese ripening or aging is considered an unsanitary practice by FDA, and a violation of FDA's current Current Good Manufacturing Practice (cGMP) regulations.




Proof positive yet again your misery and hardship always can be traced back to the Shylocks.

Glass
11th June 2014, 06:30 AM
this kind of ruling could affect other food producers and even beverage producers aging with wood, barrels and so on. Wine. Beer even.

Tumbleweed
11th June 2014, 07:03 AM
Oh yeah, before you get lost in the insanity of the issue..... guess jew said you cant make cheese?

A response was provided by Monica Metz, Branch Chief of FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition's (CFSAN) Dairy and Egg Branch.In the response, Metz stated that the use of wood for cheese ripening or aging is considered an unsanitary practice by FDA, and a violation of FDA's current Current Good Manufacturing Practice (cGMP) regulations.




Proof positive yet again your misery and hardship always can be traced back to the Shylocks.


I think back a few years we were told wooden cutting boards were unsanitary but eventually tests were done that proved they were the most sanitary.

Below is a song for goyim's about the uses of wood that have been provided for us and it's a song I don't think the Jews would like. It would remind them of what a bunch of satanist sob's they are.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVdN5Osv7G0

Shami-Amourae
11th June 2014, 07:59 AM
Wood is actually one of the safest materials when it comes to dealing with food. It is organic and somewhat "alive" in a way and naturally protects against germs. I know this from working in the culinary industry, where this has been widely known forever.

The same goes for bare hands versus gloved hands when handling food. Human hands have a lot of oils that fight germs; while gloves are a blank slate that can become an easy carrier of germs with no interference.

brosil
11th June 2014, 01:30 PM
Let Old Brother Silicon tell you a story from my youth. I suspect that everyone here is too young ( except Ponce) to remember when Holland produced a good Gouda cheese. It was flavorful but smelled like crap. That was because the Dutch aged their cheese in large pits of fresh horse manure. As the bacteria broke down the manure, the cheeses went through a very specific temperature regimen also picking up a distinctive odor. The U.S..gov decided that this was just plain yucky and told the Dutch that we wouldn't allow the import of anymore Gouda until they changed their wicked ways. Now, the Dutch exported a lot of Gouda to the U.S. and the EU was on the horizon with another set of stupid rules so they developed curing ovens designed to mimic the rotting horse manure. That made everyone happy except those few who actually cared what their food tasted like. It is my hope that I shall someday find a bootleg cheese producer that still makes good Gouda before I die.

Tumbleweed
11th June 2014, 09:21 PM
^ I don't think horse shit will kill you but I don't think I'd want to eat any real Gouda cheese. A couple of nights ago I was showing a neighbor kid how to hold and lead a colt so he wouldn't get run over or stepped on. I was drinking a beer and asked his brother to hold my beer for me while I was doing it. The one I handed the beer to drank the beer while I wasn't looking then scooped up some water in the can out of a puddle in the barn yard then handed it back to me. I took a drink of it before I realized what the little bastard had done. I'm not sick or dead yet.

Dogman
11th June 2014, 09:50 PM
My weakness in life or one of them is cheese,

I have tried every cheese that I could get my hand on all over the world, in civilian life and more importantly military life.

The air force had this thing that any plane going anywhere that was set up to carry passengers, I could hook a ride. And some that were not I got a ride.

Been on combat rides in a ac130 gunships on missions over the trail at night helping where I could, holy crap, it was star wars graphics , ruined me for civilian fireworks.

Made quick visits to many country's, karmakasi trips but bunch of fun, and cheese is a love. Can not remember but close to 40 country's flying in and then out within a 24hr or less window!

Cheese will never kill anyone, may give you the shits, if your diet and body is not accustomed to it.

Same as going to mexico, first time major shits, then the bugs in your gut adapt.

Ares
13th June 2014, 06:44 AM
FDA Backs Down In Fight Over Aged Cheese

The FDA is backing away (at least temporarily) from a policy statement that declared cheese makers would no longer be able to age their cheese on wooden boards. The statement caused outrage in the artisan cheese community and consumers quickly came to the aid of the industry signing onto a petition and expressing their outrage through social media. The American Cheese Society released a position statement, and it was clear that the industry was prepared to fight back if the FDA did not change its position.

Today, the FDA claimed that it in fact had not issued a new policy, they stated:

“The FDA does not have a new policy banning the use of wooden shelves in cheese-making, nor is there any FSMA requirement in effect that addresses this issue. Moreover, the FDA has not taken any enforcement action based solely on the use of wooden shelves.

In the interest of public health, the FDA’s current regulations state that utensils and other surfaces that contact food must be “adequately cleanable” and properly maintained. Historically, the FDA has expressed concern about whether wood meets this requirement and has noted these concerns in inspectional findings. FDA is always open to evidence that shows that wood can be safely used for specific purposes, such as aging cheese.

The FDA will engage with the artisanal cheese-making community to determine whether certain types of cheeses can safely be made by aging them on wooden shelving.”


Good for the FDA for backing down. Although it’s unfortunate that they are dodging accountability by claiming they did not change their policy. The American Cheese Society released a .PDF version of the statement by FDA’s Branch Chief Monica Metz, the chief official responsible for food safety issues involving cheese. In that document she stated

The use of wooden shelves, rough or otherwise, for cheese ripening does not conform to cGMP requirements, which require that “all plant equipment and utensils shall be so designed and of such material and workmanship as to be adequately cleanable, and shall be properly maintained.” 21 CFR 110.40(a). Wooden shelves or boards cannot be adequately cleaned and sanitized. The porous structure of wood enables it to absorb and retain bacteria, therefore bacteria generally colonize not only the surface but also the inside layers of wood. The shelves or boards used for aging make direct contact with finished products; hence they could be a potential source of pathogenic microorganisms in the finished products.

So let’s consider this a clarification, of their earlier clarification, which improperly characterized their official policy. Either way it’s good news.

This is also a lesson for people in other regulated industries. When government officials make pronouncements that don’t seem grounded in law or policy, and threaten your livelihood with an enforcement action, you must organize and fight back. While specialized industries may think that nobody cares, the fight over aged cheese proves that people’s voices can be heard, cheese expert Gordon Edgar summed it up nicely here:

Wow. Talk about a groundswell. This is the kind of issue that scares the cheese world because, while crucial to us, the surface a cheese is aged on might be seen as too esoteric or boring to draw public attention. Clearly this has not been the case here.

While this is clearly a victory for the cheese industry, nothing is stopping the FDA from promulgating new regulations, so cheese makers will need to stay pay attention to what the FDA does next. FDA spokesperson Lauren Sucher signaled as much when she stated the agency would “engage with the artisanal cheese-making community to determine whether certain types of cheeses can safely be made by aging them on wooden shelving.” That sounds like the FDA is planning to make some new regulations, and the engagement will likely come through the notice and comment rule-making process I described here. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregorymcneal/2014/06/09/fda-may-destroy-american-artisan-cheese-industry/)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregorymcneal/2014/06/10/fda-backs-down-in-fight-over-aged-cheese/

gunny highway
13th June 2014, 09:22 AM
Hooray cheese!!!

jimswift
13th June 2014, 10:55 AM
All of the crookery going on, and THIS is really what a "taxpayer" gets?

osoab
13th June 2014, 08:10 PM
FDA Backs Down In Fight Over Aged Cheese (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregorymcneal/2014/06/10/fda-backs-down-in-fight-over-aged-cheese/)



The FDA is backing away (at least temporarily) from a policy statement that declared cheese makers would no longer be able to age their cheese on wooden boards (http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregorymcneal/2014/06/09/fda-may-destroy-american-artisan-cheese-industry/). The statement caused outrage in the artisan cheese community and consumers quickly came to the aid of the industry signing onto a petition and expressing their outrage through social media. The American Cheese Society released a position statement (http://www.cheesesociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ACS-Statement-on-Safety-of-Aging-Cheese-on-Wood.pdf), and it was clear that the industry was prepared to fight back if the FDA did not change its position.


Today, the FDA claimed that it in fact had not issued a new policy, they stated:
“The FDA does not have a new policy banning the use of wooden shelves in cheese-making, nor is there any FSMA requirement in effect that addresses this issue. Moreover, the FDA has not taken any enforcement action based solely on the use of wooden shelves.
In the interest of public health, the FDA’s current regulations state that utensils and other surfaces that contact food must be “adequately cleanable” and properly maintained. Historically, the FDA has expressed concern about whether wood meets this requirement and has noted these concerns in inspectional findings. FDA is always open to evidence that shows that wood can be safely used for specific purposes, such as aging cheese.
The FDA will engage with the artisanal cheese-making community to determine whether certain types of cheeses can safely be made by aging them on wooden shelving.”



rest at link

BrewTech
13th June 2014, 09:26 PM
Similarly to what I said before, how does the FDA explain the survival of (indeed, the *insert appropriate word I cannot think of here* of) the human race prior to their existence?

Santa
13th June 2014, 10:58 PM
Game Changer: FDA now Rules in favor of the water boarding of domestic aging cheese.