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EE_
15th July 2014, 05:25 PM
anyone ever wonder what would happen if something bad happened, (natural disaster, or man made, etc.) in Mexico/central/south America and 1 million people charged the US border at one time?
Libertarian_Guard
15th July 2014, 05:27 PM
anyone ever wonder what would happen if something bad happened, (natural disaster, or man made, etc.) in Mexico/central/south America and 1 million people charged the US border at one time?
Wow. We might have to drop back to the other side of the Red River and give up Texas.
old steel
15th July 2014, 05:28 PM
The population of USA increases by 1 million in very short order?
Dogman
15th July 2014, 05:28 PM
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Serpo
15th July 2014, 05:32 PM
Or all you guys rush the Mexican border..............for some reason.......
Libertytree
15th July 2014, 05:34 PM
Or?...N America has a calamity and the folks that can head go south, or north for that matter.
Libertarian_Guard
15th July 2014, 05:36 PM
The population of USA increases by 1 million in very short order?
From the late 1970's till now (most of my adult lifetime) the US population has increased by over a 100 million and it isn't attributable to the birth rate. The trend will continue unabated.
EE_
15th July 2014, 05:40 PM
So we'd just buck up and go about our business?
What if it was 10 million?
Doesn't seem like the government would do squat about it?
gunDriller
15th July 2014, 05:44 PM
anyone ever wonder what would happen if something bad happened, (natural disaster, or man made, etc.) in Mexico/central/south America and 1 million people charged the US border at one time?
i would want to be sitting there with a taco stand, LOTS of tacos, and a .50 caliber machine gun, to protect the cash register.
EE_
15th July 2014, 05:47 PM
i would want to be sitting there with a taco stand, LOTS of tacos, and a .50 caliber machine gun, to protect the cash register.
It really might take American's to join with our firearms to stop them. The government can't even stop children now.
Uncle Salty
15th July 2014, 06:02 PM
A fiesta!
Libertytree
15th July 2014, 06:06 PM
As in any SHTF scenario there's just too many variables to comprehend, only a small percentage really have it all covered.
madfranks
15th July 2014, 06:15 PM
anyone ever wonder what would happen if something bad happened, (natural disaster, or man made, etc.) in Mexico/central/south America and 1 million people charged the US border at one time?
1 million people would begin to receive free welfare, education, food, hospital stays, etc.
madfranks
15th July 2014, 06:17 PM
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/07/ron-paul/missing-from-the-immigration-debate/
Over the past several weeks we have seen a significant increase in illegal immigration, as thousands of unaccompanied minors pour across what seems an invisible southern border into the United States. The mass immigration has, as to be expected, put an enormous strain on local resources, and it has heated up the immigration debate in the US.
Most liberals and conservatives miss the point, however, making the same old arguments we have all heard before. Liberals argue that we need to provide more welfare and assistance to these young immigrants, while conservatives would bus them to the other side of the border, drop them off, and deploy drones to keep them out.
Neither side seems interested in considering why is this happening in the first place. The truth is, this latest crisis is a consequence of mistaken government policies on both sides of the border.
In fact much of the problem can be directly traced to the US drug war, which creates unlivable conditions in countries that produce narcotics for export to the US. Many of those interviewed over the past several weeks have cited violent drug gangs back home as a main motivation for their departure. Because some Americans want to use drugs here in the US, governments to the south are bribed and bullied to crack down on local producers. The resulting violence has destroyed economies and lives from Mexico to Nicaragua and beyond. Addressing the failed war on drugs would go a long way to solving the immigration crisis.
I understand the argument of some libertarians that there should be no limits at all on who comes into the United States, but the reality is we do not live in a libertarian society. We live in a society where healthcare is provided — often by over-burdened emergency rooms that cannot legally turn away the sick — “free” education is provided, and other support via food stamp programs is also made available for “free” to illegal immigrants. Many even argue that they should be allowed to vote!
In a free society where the warfare-welfare state ceased to exist, immigration laws would be far less important. A free market would seek workers rather than immigrants to add to its welfare rolls. Voting itself would decline in significance. If 20 people lived on a privately-owned island, for example, one owner could decide to have a guest on his property without bothering the other 19. Were we to move in this direction in the US, the current immigration crisis would be a thing of the past.
Over many years while I was in Congress, I met with scores of employers in my district who faced terrible red tape just to be allowed to bring in temporary agricultural workers who would willingly return home once the work was finished. How ironic that Americans willing to provide jobs for immigrants seeking honest work were thwarted by the same government that has now opened the door to a flood of immigrants seeking welfare and other assistance.
One thing we can be sure about: as Republicans and Democrats tussle over “reform” bills, more money will be thrown at the symptoms produced by past bad policies instead of addressing the real causes of the current crisis. The president’s $4 billion supplemental request to address the issue is a costly mix of welfare and enforcement that will do very little to solve the problem because it treats the symptoms instead of the cause. Real reform means changing a failed approach, and until that happens we can count on more expensive mistakes.
Cebu_4_2
15th July 2014, 06:54 PM
Wrong, there is no reason but TPTB wants this. No reasoning will work. We just need to know what the reasoning is to counter it.
Hypertiger
15th July 2014, 07:39 PM
Yes you all love Turkey shoots....but the pawns go first...and when you blast them...you reveal your positions or expose yourselves.
And then you can be plinked like gophers.
You all think you know anything about war?
When the kid gloves fly off in the USA...your pop guns will become useless.
Cold dead hands...there will not be enough left of you to fill an ash tray...you all are living in la la land currently.
Ponce
15th July 2014, 07:40 PM
Ponce <----------- leaving gringo country and going back to Cuba, I might be crazy but I am not stupid........any one wants to come with me?
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old steel
15th July 2014, 07:53 PM
Yes you all love Turkey shoots....but the pawns go first...and when you blast them...you reveal your positions or expose yourselves.
And then you can be plinked like gophers.
You all think you know anything about war?
When the kid gloves fly off in the USA...your pop guns will become useless.
Cold dead hands...there will not be enough left of you to fill an ash tray...you all are living in la la land currently.
Not in Canada. We don't have enough of an army to lock down more than a few major cities at any given time.
BrewTech
15th July 2014, 08:01 PM
So we'd just buck up and go about our business?
What if it was 10 million?
Doesn't seem like the government would do squat about it?
If it's in my best interest, I expect the government to inhibit, not promote it. Were you born yesterday?
:p
Hypertiger
15th July 2014, 08:17 PM
Prior to the 2006 collapse of the 1991 to 2006 new home real estate boom the exponentially grew by 11% per year for 15 years.
100,000 illegals were crossing the border a month...then the flow began to reverse as the boom turned bust into the 2008 collapse.
Now its reversed again and sucking them back in.
The rich dry backs are the demand for the poor wet backs.
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