Did we really go to the moon?............. V

[Ponce]

Here in this video they are saying what I have been saying for years.......shadows going wrong way and the landing craft is to damn clean.
======================================

http://beforeitsnews.com/space/2013/08/unreleased-moon-walk-footage-proof-of-moon-landing-hoax-a-funny-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-the-moon-2464528.html

[StreetsOfGold]

I wrote to the people that manufacture the official spacesuits for NASA (same people now as then) and they claim the suit I asked for is not available
All I was looking for was a suit which can keep me cool in +200 degree and warm in -200 degree climate.
Is that too much to ask?

I was not even looking for micro meteorite protection, radiation protection, oxygen provision and waste management as the Apollo astronauts (supposedly) had.

You would think after 40+ years this would not only be common technology but should be even BETTER and cheaper.

So, what happened? The suit NEVER existed in the first place, that's what happened.

Earlier this year there was a video of some U.S. Astronauts on one of their orbiting vessels and one of the astronauts needed to fix something.
He kept saying how incredibly COLD it was and even his vision was getting fogged up in the visor by the extreme cold. You could even hear it in his voice.

[Norweger]

The moonhoax is like the holohoax. Try to talk about it with the plebeians and they start attacking you right away.

Ever got the: "Oh yeah maybe you don't believe in the moon landing as well?" when discussing controversial subjects ? As if that is the most "crazy" thing you can do.

[palani]

How could there have been a moon landing in the '60s? I didn't discover the moon until several months ago when I chanced to glance skyward. Who is to say whether it is the same moon or not?

[Ponce]

Palani? did you see the face on the moon........I always did and my dad never did.....what a shame.

[palani]

I always did and my dad never did.....what a shame.

DDT baths at an early age?

Nope. There was no face there.

Shooting the moon was a practice from the 70's. Folks told me once of being presented with a car of teenagers passing them on the way to Minnesota on a fishing trip displaying a triple pressed ham.

Streaking was from the early 70's too. Lots of interesting things went on then.

[Serpo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnZqm5E6rqE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4hycqDNnPE#t=1218

[Ponce]

The head is the moon itself and you can see the face on the head........holy macro.....how can you guys see the elephant in the room? ... Upssssssssss I forgot, you can't even see the Zionist murders SOB right in front of you.

V

[Jerrylynnb]

I worked at NASA from 1968 to 1983. I was part of the ground simulation team and my area was the Saturn IVB, which comprised of the command module and the restartable J-2 rocket engine. I never doubted that the astronauts were onboard and completed the missions as advertised. Two things happened that have come back to haunt me with doubts.

First, at a large meeting of over 100 programmers they were discussing the lunar liftoff and one joker in the audience (who happened to be a friend of mine) popped a dumb question, intending as a wise-crack, as follows: "What about the abort sequence?" Now, we all knew that there was a tower on top of the command module that had rockets ready to pull the command module up and away from the Saturn rocket in case of any problems, and keep firing until the command module (with the astronauts riding inside) reached a height to where the parachutes could deploy and they would splash down safely in the waters off the cape. They never had to deploy this "abort sequence" for liftoff at the cape, but it was definitely a fully functioning sequence that was practiced often in simulations, and, when my friend asked that question (in jest), we all knew what he was talking about, and, the whole room started to laugh, due obviously to the idiocy of being able to abort liftoff from the moon. But the presenter, who I didn't know very well, didn't think it was funny, and, kept a stern look on his face until we all settled back down. Many years later, I started to wonder if perhaps the presenter knew something we didn't about not needing any abort sequence for a lunar liftoff - maybe if there were no astronauts really there to begin with that would need to be saved.

Secondly, after all the lunar missions were over, and we were all scrambling for projects to work on until the shuttle work got started up, I was offered a short term assignment to write the programs for something called, "Van Allen Belt Radiation Studies", which was a project to launch high altitude probes of sufficient height to traverse the Van Allen Belt and return, in which various life forms would be within the craft, complete with instruments to measure the effects the increased radiation would have on the life forms during their trek through the Van Allen Belt, which begins at about 400 miles up. As I read the specs, I caught myself wondering why they were conducting this study AFTER we had already gone to the moon WITH HUMANS several times. It seemed to me they had already determined the safety of traversing the Van Allen Belt, so, why spend the money to study it now with lower life forms? I asked my boss about it, who just shrugged it off, as I did also, but, years later, that question came back to haunt me. Could it be that they never actually had humans on board when they went through the Van Allen Belt (on the way to the moon), and, now that the fanfare and concomitant attention from news folks had died down, they were going to actually figure out just how safe, or dangerous, going through the belt would be for life forms? That question started to haunt me many years later, when it started looking like NASA had no plans to go higher than 400 miles with humans, and no other nation die either. WHY?

I am confident that we sent elaborate crafts all the way to the moon - I know we had the technology to do that, and I was familiar with the iterative techniques used to pinpoint where orbiting objects would be at any given time in the future, so a rendezvous was definitely something within the grasp of 1970's technology. I DO now have doubts about whether or not we actually had any life forms on board - I still wonder about that.

For me, the acid test will be if they ever take a photo of that flag, allegedly planted on the lunar surface, and show it to the whole world, with plenty of 3rd party observers with free access to the proceedings to concur that there really is a flag up there still standing.
Until then, I have to say I don't really know - and I wonder about it.

[foolsgold]

Hahaha


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wptn5RE2I-k

[Glass]

I saw a new report the other day claiming that Buzz recently said he did see activity of an UFO during their moon landing missions. That kind of claim would enthuse all the UFO'ers out there and convince them that man from apollo 11 landed on the moon.

[Cebu_4_2]

Hahaha


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wptn5RE2I-k

That is one of the most awesome videos I ever watched!

[Norweger]

I find it amusing reading comments from moonhuggers under YouTube-videos as the one posted over here. They are such mean, nasty, vicious effers.

[Cebu_4_2]

I find it amusing reading comments from moonhuggers under YouTube-videos as the one posted over here. They are such mean, nasty, vicious effers.

Those comments are disturbing... Back after commercials.

[monty]

Incontrovertible proof we went to the moon,










IN CASE YOU DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW THIS LITTLE TIDBIT OF WONDERFUL TRIVIA �

ON JULY 20, 1969, AS COMMANDER OF THE APOLLO 11 LUNAR MODULE, NEIL ARMSTRONG WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO SET FOOT ON THE MOON.

HIS FIRST WORDS AFTER STEPPING ON THE MOON,

"THAT'S ONE SMALL STEP FOR MAN, ONE GIANT LEAP FOR MANKIND," WERE TELEVISED TO EARTH AND HEARD BY MILLIONS.

BUT, JUST BEFORE HE RE-ENTERED THE LANDER, HE MADE THE ENIGMATIC REMARK "GOOD LUCK, MR. GORSKY."

MANY PEOPLE AT NASA THOUGHT IT WAS A CASUAL REMARK CONCERNING SOME RIVAL SOVIET COSMONAUT.

HOWEVER, UPON CHECKING, THERE WAS NO GORSKY IN EITHER THE RUSSIAN OR AMERICAN SPACE PROGRAMS.

OVER THE YEARS, MANY PEOPLE QUESTIONED ARMSTRONG AS TO WHAT THE 'GOOD LUCK, MR. GORSKY' STATEMENT MEANT, BUT ARMSTRONG ALWAYS JUST SMILED.

ON JULY 5, 1995, IN TAMPA BAY , FLORIDA , WHILE ANSWERING QUESTIONS FOLLOWING A SPEECH, A REPORTER BROUGHT UP THE 26-YEAR-OLD QUESTION ABOUT Mr. Gorsky TO ARMSTRONG.

THIS TIME HE FINALLY RESPONDED BECAUSE HIS MR. GORSKY HAD JUST DIED, SO NEIL ARMSTRONG FELT HE COULD NOW ANSWER THE QUESTION.

HERE IS THE ANSWER TO "WHO WAS MR. GORSKY":

IN 1938, WHEN HE WAS A KID IN A SMALL MID-WESTERN TOWN , HE WAS PLAYING BASEBALL WITH A FRIEND IN THE BACKYARD.

HIS FRIEND HIT THE BALL, WHICH LANDED IN HIS NEIGHBOR'S YARD BY THEIR BEDROOM WINDOW. HIS NEIGHBORS WERE MR. AND MRS. GORSKY.


AS HE LEANED DOWN TO PICK UP THE BALL, YOUNG ARMSTRONG HEARD MRS. GORSKY SHOUTING AT MR. GORSKY,


"SEX? YOU WANT SEX? YOU'LL GET SEX WHEN THE KID NEXT DOOR WALKS ON THE MOON!"


It broke the place up.

NEIL ARMSTRONG'S FAMILY CONFIRMED THAT THIS IS A TRUE STORY.

[Neuro]

I worked at NASA from 1968 to 1983. I was part of the ground simulation team and my area was the Saturn IVB, which comprised of the command module and the restartable J-2 rocket engine. I never doubted that the astronauts were onboard and completed the missions as advertised. Two things happened that have come back to haunt me with doubts.

First, at a large meeting of over 100 programmers they were discussing the lunar liftoff and one joker in the audience (who happened to be a friend of mine) popped a dumb question, intending as a wise-crack, as follows: "What about the abort sequence?" Now, we all knew that there was a tower on top of the command module that had rockets ready to pull the command module up and away from the Saturn rocket in case of any problems, and keep firing until the command module (with the astronauts riding inside) reached a height to where the parachutes could deploy and they would splash down safely in the waters off the cape. They never had to deploy this "abort sequence" for liftoff at the cape, but it was definitely a fully functioning sequence that was practiced often in simulations, and, when my friend asked that question (in jest), we all knew what he was talking about, and, the whole room started to laugh, due obviously to the idiocy of being able to abort liftoff from the moon. But the presenter, who I didn't know very well, didn't think it was funny, and, kept a stern look on his face until we all settled back down. Many years later, I started to wonder if perhaps the presenter knew something we didn't about not needing any abort sequence for a lunar liftoff - maybe if there were no astronauts really there to begin with that would need to be saved.

Secondly, after all the lunar missions were over, and we were all scrambling for projects to work on until the shuttle work got started up, I was offered a short term assignment to write the programs for something called, "Van Allen Belt Radiation Studies", which was a project to launch high altitude probes of sufficient height to traverse the Van Allen Belt and return, in which various life forms would be within the craft, complete with instruments to measure the effects the increased radiation would have on the life forms during their trek through the Van Allen Belt, which begins at about 400 miles up. As I read the specs, I caught myself wondering why they were conducting this study AFTER we had already gone to the moon WITH HUMANS several times. It seemed to me they had already determined the safety of traversing the Van Allen Belt, so, why spend the money to study it now with lower life forms? I asked my boss about it, who just shrugged it off, as I did also, but, years later, that question came back to haunt me. Could it be that they never actually had humans on board when they went through the Van Allen Belt (on the way to the moon), and, now that the fanfare and concomitant attention from news folks had died down, they were going to actually figure out just how safe, or dangerous, going through the belt would be for life forms? That question started to haunt me many years later, when it started looking like NASA had no plans to go higher than 400 miles with humans, and no other nation die either. WHY?

I am confident that we sent elaborate crafts all the way to the moon - I know we had the technology to do that, and I was familiar with the iterative techniques used to pinpoint where orbiting objects would be at any given time in the future, so a rendezvous was definitely something within the grasp of 1970's technology. I DO now have doubts about whether or not we actually had any life forms on board - I still wonder about that.

For me, the acid test will be if they ever take a photo of that flag, allegedly planted on the lunar surface, and show it to the whole world, with plenty of 3rd party observers with free access to the proceedings to concur that there really is a flag up there still standing.
Until then, I have to say I don't really know - and I wonder about it.
I hope you, and the rest of us will get an answer before we die!

[Glass]

hehe yeah right. Its the 1940's and I'm sure thats what happened. People talking loudly about sex and even arguing. Had to wait 20 years. The big G.

[Neuro]

Incontrovertible proof we went to the moon,









IN CASE YOU DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW THIS LITTLE TIDBIT OF WONDERFUL TRIVIA �

ON JULY 20, 1969, AS COMMANDER OF THE APOLLO 11 LUNAR MODULE, NEIL ARMSTRONG WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO SET FOOT ON THE MOON.

HIS FIRST WORDS AFTER STEPPING ON THE MOON,

"THAT'S ONE SMALL STEP FOR MAN, ONE GIANT LEAP FOR MANKIND," WERE TELEVISED TO EARTH AND HEARD BY MILLIONS.

BUT, JUST BEFORE HE RE-ENTERED THE LANDER, HE MADE THE ENIGMATIC REMARK "GOOD LUCK, MR. GORSKY."

MANY PEOPLE AT NASA THOUGHT IT WAS A CASUAL REMARK CONCERNING SOME RIVAL SOVIET COSMONAUT.

HOWEVER, UPON CHECKING, THERE WAS NO GORSKY IN EITHER THE RUSSIAN OR AMERICAN SPACE PROGRAMS.

OVER THE YEARS, MANY PEOPLE QUESTIONED ARMSTRONG AS TO WHAT THE 'GOOD LUCK, MR. GORSKY' STATEMENT MEANT, BUT ARMSTRONG ALWAYS JUST SMILED.

ON JULY 5, 1995, IN TAMPA BAY , FLORIDA , WHILE ANSWERING QUESTIONS FOLLOWING A SPEECH, A REPORTER BROUGHT UP THE 26-YEAR-OLD QUESTION ABOUT Mr. Gorsky TO ARMSTRONG.

THIS TIME HE FINALLY RESPONDED BECAUSE HIS MR. GORSKY HAD JUST DIED, SO NEIL ARMSTRONG FELT HE COULD NOW ANSWER THE QUESTION.

HERE IS THE ANSWER TO "WHO WAS MR. GORSKY":

IN 1938, WHEN HE WAS A KID IN A SMALL MID-WESTERN TOWN , HE WAS PLAYING BASEBALL WITH A FRIEND IN THE BACKYARD.

HIS FRIEND HIT THE BALL, WHICH LANDED IN HIS NEIGHBOR'S YARD BY THEIR BEDROOM WINDOW. HIS NEIGHBORS WERE MR. AND MRS. GORSKY.


AS HE LEANED DOWN TO PICK UP THE BALL, YOUNG ARMSTRONG HEARD MRS. GORSKY SHOUTING AT MR. GORSKY,


"SEX? YOU WANT SEX? YOU'LL GET SEX WHEN THE KID NEXT DOOR WALKS ON THE MOON!"


It broke the place up.

NEIL ARMSTRONG'S FAMILY CONFIRMED THAT THIS IS A TRUE STORY.
































I looked it up... According to this he never said such a thing...

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/48790315/ns/technology_and_science-space/t/debunking-myths-about-neil-armstrong/
Myth: During the moon walk, Armstrong made a cryptic comment, "Good luck, Mr. Gorsky," in honor of a childhood neighbor of his in Ohio whose outraged wife had screamed that she’d perform a sex act requested by her husband "when the kid next door walks on the moon."
Fact: The comment is not on any recordings or transcripts, nor was it heard by anyone in real time. It appears to have originated from a comedy routine by Buddy Hackett.

[PatColo]

I haven't watched this 1hr 9min ditty:


Thursday, December 10, 2015 Stanley Kubrick Confesses to Faking Moon Landings (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/12/stanley-kubrick-confesses-to-faking.html)

An Interview Filmed 3 days before His death in England has surfaced online after a 15 year embargo on it's publication has expired. Now you can see and hear Kubrick himself admitting to being the director of NASA's original hoax. Enjoy the Movie!

https://vimeo.com/148533954

https://vimeo.com/148533954


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[vacuum]

I haven't watched this 1hr 9min ditty:


Thursday, December 10, 2015

Stanley Kubrick Confesses to Faking Moon Landings (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/12/stanley-kubrick-confesses-to-faking.html)



An Interview Filmed 3 days before His death in England has surfaced online after a 15 year embargo on it's publication has expired. Now you can see and hear Kubrick himself admitting to being the director of NASA's original hoax. Enjoy the Movie!



Should this be it's own thread?

edit: might be fake, check the name at 14 minutes


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPHRpFFRDUk

[Glass]

its weirdly edited. keeps chopping.

as if they are trying to replicate a Kubrick or Hitchcock style. Mixed with some "A funny thing happened on the way to the Moon" segments.

[Glass]

editing gets more messed with. Kind of Max Headroom type of stuff.

Wondering why, as this would have been recorded on video, it has film type artifacts added to it? There are vertical hairlines running through it which you wouldn't get with video. Also not there on some other scenes which are clearly filmed at the same time.

It looks a fair bit like him but would be good to see the whole of his face. Using the half face close up shadow shit is annoying.

Half expect this to be put out there and when it gets some momentum, for it to be exposed as fake. Hope not.

He was promised things he needed, in exchange for doing it. This need over rode everything else. I wonder what he needed? Minute 38. Was flattered to be challenged with fooling the world.

[JohnQPublic]

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?86494-Beheading-Videos-Fake&p=805057&viewfull=1#post805057

[Jerrylynnb]

Well, PatColo, I watched it all the way through just now:

"Stanley Kubrick Confesses to Faking Moon Landings"

and I can advise you to skip it, EXCEPT that there are about 5 - 10 minutes peppered throughout it where they have a close-up of Kurbrick spilling the beans (that he faked Apollo 11). The video is a re-hash of "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon", with some audio exchanges between Jay Wieder appearing Jeff Rense's program (which I had listened to a while back - quite a while).

What they should have done is just give us about 10 minutes (max) showing Kubrick tell about how he was approached by Nasa, then Nixon, to use his expertise (demonstrated to them with his "2001: A Space Odessy"), to fake the moon landing because, in what Kubrick says are Nixon's words, "we can't make it."

Okay, that is kinda' earth-shaking, yes, to see and hear Kubrick confessing like that, and, YES, I was impressed that he actually got an audience with Nixon and his account of it matches what we all came to be familiar with back when Nixon was on our minds (back in the late 60's and early 70's - they had a couple of very humorous talk-records back then making wholesome, and side-splittin' fun, of Nixon and his very recognizable mannerisms). But the makers of this video devalued it by sandwiching it with other video, and audio, which is NOT earth shaking, but, rather tiresome to have to sit through.

Yes, we know about the shadows, and about that phony photo of the earth, allegedly from half-way to the moon. Yes, we know about the odd, and otherwise inexplicable, behavior of the one man who should have been a hero and who should have acted like it - Niel Armstrong. Lots of already known stuff rehashed here, but, this talk by Kubrick to someone (not named) is really the only new thing here, and they could have done that in 5 minutes. It would have been better to cease with the splicing (obvious, and that makes one wonder "WHY").

As I wrote in a prior post (about the time I worked out at Clear Lake City on the NASA contract during those years), I have a keen interest in how this finally gets resolved, which, in my guess, will finally be settled when some other nation sends a very good camera to orbit over one of the sites where we are supposed to have a flag on a pole - that will settle it one way or the other. After seeing Kubrick here, I am starting to figure that we only went with equipment, but no astronauts ever left earth orbit. Best guess for the moment.

[Glass]

how are we going to trust any one who says they sent a camera? How is the footage going to get back here? Will it be able to be transmitted through the belt? Would recordings make it back if brought back?

I agree they mashed this in with other stuff unecessarily. At least it doesn't have Rense or others giggling all through it.

What I would have liked was a statement from Kubrick. I Stanley did fake the moon landing. I did it on this date through to this date at this film studio or recording location.

And talking over critical comments from people in the game. Armstrongs 25th Aniversary speech for instance.

Why an embargo? 15 years. By who? Who embargoed it?

How did the interviewee get away? Not killed for 15 years.

Will they release the raw interview?

He was dead 3 days later.

[PatColo]

7 comments (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=5482233409152683147)@ Mami's now; discussing whether the Kubrik video is real or fake?

[Jewboo]

http://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/2015/12/10/499aa846-f6de-42c6-8571-08fe6fdb2c00/766d2f380aaf804d15efcabb339bc44d/iss45crew.jpg
The crew of the International Space Station (left to right) Station commander Scott Kelly,
Sergei Volkov, Mikhail Kornienko, Soyuz TMA-17M flight engineer Kjell Lindgren,
TMA-17M commander Oleg Kononenko and flight engineer Kimiya Yui. NASA



Why would Russia co-conspire with the USA/Hollywood propaganda that glorifies superior America's Moon Landing? Russia has every motive and means to prove it was bullshit. If it was bullshit.

:rolleyes:


http://cdn.thejournal.ie/media/2010/08/Russia-Fires-31.jpg
Release our video and data on that USA Moon Landing hoax

[Jewboo]

...I never doubted that the astronauts were onboard...



http://www.staynehoff.net/8-mission-boarding.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/28/article-2194513-14B703CA000005DC-314_634x414.jpg
A walk to remember: Led by Neil Armstrong, the crew of the Apollo 11 lunar
landing mission is seen arriving atop Pad A, Launch Complex 39 at the
Kennedy Space Center in Florida, during the pre-launch countdown on July 16, 1969


:rolleyes: they somehow snuck out and didn't go up?

[Jerrylynnb]

Glass asks, "how are we going to trust any one who says they sent a camera"?

A very GOOD QUESTION, GLass. I thought that also, and, if you think about it, THIS is probably the way it would be done.

Let's say, Japan (or maybe China, who knows) outfits a launch with a top-notch camera to orbit over one, or maybe two or three, of the sites where a flag pole and flag were left. What they would do (the other country, say, Japan), would be to ANNOUNCE it loudly world-wide, and INVITE a multitude of reporters and space scientists and enthusiasts to be involved in the whole process from beginning to end. A whole crew of international participants, chosen without any untoward selection crap (that is, not excluding any popular pundit who would make such a stink about it that the whole effort would be discredited before it even got launched), and, these participants would insist on being able to inspect and be informed as to the totality of the whole mission. They'd write daily, or hourly, reports as to the various steps involved, and, as the craft approached lunar orbit and the sites chosen to be photographed, this army of international space enthusiasts would be right there, serving as the eyes of the world, to see to it that whatever got photographed was the absolute truth.

If the Japanese (just for example) were to pre-announce such a mission, and invite particpants from all over, and then proceed with the mission in full view of the world press and the billions who would be eagerly watching it, then, and ONLY then, those in the know within the US space crowd would have to know that the jig is up (if it is fake), OR, and this is a BIG OR, they would welcome the mission and be right there to co-announce the progress of the mission.

Now, if there really are american flags on flag poles at any of the sites, then, the US would welcome it, and be glad to finally put and end to all this speculation about faking a moon shot. However, if those on the inside know that it was faked, and that there really is NO FLAG nor FLAG POLE at any of those sites, they'd have to come clean way before the mission ever got very far, as a better alternative than having the whole world see for themselves that there ain't no flags there. They'd have to fess up, or, worse, try to come up with phony baloney excuses as to why the flag poles and flags aren't there anymore. I hate to say it, but, if these chareletons are as low as they just might be, this is probably the option they'll take, and, even though THE WHOLE WORLD will see them as fake fake fake, their jobs will require that they pretent their story is not the bullshit it would be. I'd hate to be in their shoes for that option.

So, it wouldn't be some secret mission where we hear about it after the fact - that wouldn't solve anyting but just cause more arugments and doubts. It would be widely announced, watched, participated in, and, would get beat to death with the many interested parties wanting an answer - dammit!

After watching these few minutes of Kubrick spilling his heart out over his over-ambitious and youthful willingness to perfect this deception, and how it had been eating at him for so many years, without really nothing to gain by this story, I am having a hard time finally actually believing we had life forms on those crafts we sent into lunar orbit. And that really digs me deep - all that money! All those salaries for all those experts - this is something of a shake-up when we finally start having semi-serious leanings that such a massive deception got carried out against so many well-educated and patriotic participants.

I am eagerly waiting for this mission I described above, and, I am wondering why some nation doesn't jump in and get it on. They would draw more attention than any other "show" I can think of.

[Neuro]

http://www.staynehoff.net/8-mission-boarding.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/28/article-2194513-14B703CA000005DC-314_634x414.jpg
A walk to remember: Led by Neil Armstrong, the crew of the Apollo 11 lunar
landing mission is seen arriving atop Pad A, Launch Complex 39 at the
Kennedy Space Center in Florida, during the pre-launch countdown on July 16, 1969


:rolleyes: they somehow snuck out and didn't go up?

They went to low earth orbit Jewboo...

[Neuro]

Strange I and my wife shared the Unedited Kubrick confession on Facebook. Gone from the newsfeed now.

[cheka.]

http://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/2015/12/10/499aa846-f6de-42c6-8571-08fe6fdb2c00/766d2f380aaf804d15efcabb339bc44d/iss45crew.jpg
The crew of the International Space Station (left to right) Station commander Scott Kelly,
Sergei Volkov, Mikhail Kornienko, Soyuz TMA-17M flight engineer Kjell Lindgren,
TMA-17M commander Oleg Kononenko and flight engineer Kimiya Yui. NASA



Why would Russia co-conspire with the USA/Hollywood propaganda that glorifies superior America's Moon Landing? Russia has every motive and means to prove it was bullshit. If it was bullshit.

:rolleyes:


http://cdn.thejournal.ie/media/2010/08/Russia-Fires-31.jpg
Release our video and data on that USA Moon Landing hoax


================================================== ========================



only if you think russia is adversary and not partner

china too

govs/banks on same team

[Jewboo]

http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/031208/031208_reaganactor_bcolumn.grid-4x2.jpg https://drinksandwings.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/ronald-reagan-ge.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/a9/94/9e/a9949e479da7f5fd500a225b591b9087.jpg

The moon landing being some kind of Hollywood production is hard to accept.

:rolleyes:


http://www.cinemaretro.com/uploads/kubrick450.jpg

Kubrick the Hollywood Jew just blowing his own horn (motive) about NASA

I don't have any problem with the Moon Landing being faked. It bankrupted the Soviet Union trying to compete.

[Jewboo]

only if you are fooled into thinking russia is adversary and not partner




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb9AMndjr2U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNYe_UaWZ3U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgdUgzAWcrw



:rolleyes: believe your own eyes

[Neuro]

http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/031208/031208_reaganactor_bcolumn.grid-4x2.jpg https://drinksandwings.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/ronald-reagan-ge.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/a9/94/9e/a9949e479da7f5fd500a225b591b9087.jpg

The moon landing being some kind of Hollywood production is hard to accept.

:rolleyes:


http://www.cinemaretro.com/uploads/kubrick450.jpg

Kubrick the Hollywood Jew just blowing his own horn (motive) about NASA
Yeah it can't be...

And those pesky Van Allen radiation belts, that no-one traversed the last 43 years wasn't that big of a bump in the road.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NlXG0REiVzE

[Jewboo]

https://josephpetrillo.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/376494_10150951961736275_1803773560_n.jpg

Good for bidness.

[Shami-Amourae]

/pol/ thread:

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/58098178/#58102822

[Neuro]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb9AMndjr2U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNYe_UaWZ3U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgdUgzAWcrw



:rolleyes: believe your own eyes
At least the Soviet Slavs didn't starve to death as US sold them 12 million short tons of grains in 1972 at a great discount...
http://www.world-grain.com/News/News%20Home/Features/2013/7/The%20inside%20story%20of%20a%20groundbreaking%20t rade%20agreement.aspx?cck=1

Stuff their mouths full of bread will shut them up, perhaps? Also called the "Great Grain Robbery", since the American plebs had to pay for it with higher grain prices!

[ximmy]

My friend has this encyclopedia on science and technology of the world printed in 1969. It overviews the space program and lists all the problems they were having up to 1968, especially rocket failures. It mentions Van Allen and the radiation and how they need to overcome that before they can send humans into space.

Then a year later, 1969, we are landing on the moon.

Lunar lander testing failure (1968).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWlvFzqtKcY

[Norweger]

================================================== ========================



only if you think russia is adversary and not partner

china too

govs/banks on same team

Easiest way to prove this is the cold war and all that mumbojumbo. They needed to prop up the US war machine so that they could use it for what it is today.. If they were that concerned with communism they would have followed the suggestions of mister Patton, but they did not. Jewry controls both the US and Russia and that holds true to this day. The myth of the moon landing is valuable and it ties into a lot of other illusions humanity lives under to this day.

[Horn]

http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/584395main_M168319885_LR.25cm_ap14_area.jpg

[PatColo]

Easiest way to prove this is the cold war and all that mumbojumbo. They needed to prop up the US war machine so that they could use it for what it is today.. If they were that concerned with communism they would have followed the suggestions of mister Patton, but they did not. Jewry controls both the US and Russia and that holds true to this day. The myth of the moon landing is valuable and it ties into a lot of other illusions humanity lives under to this day.

I heard an alt-media account of Patton's death; spun it as the car crash was deliberate/engineered, then he should've survived but was 'murdered' in the hospital. Coz Patton after the war had nasty things to say about jooowry, and good things to say about Germans.

jooweypedia's slanted account:


7.1 Accident and death (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_S._Patton#Accident_and_death)

[Glass]

was conspiracy theorist a thing in 2000?

The internet was not much of anything at that time. www hypertext had just started. everything else was what they now call dark web.

He says the conspiracy theorists were right on this occassion. He doesn't know about Paul Macartneys death but this one they got right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqSg6W8EMYU

I think it looks like him. Mole near the left eye. Nose. Might need to see another interview from an earlier time. See how close the mannerisms are

[Glass]

some interesting out takes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niEcNiU_2jA

Around 5 min mark gets heated. Guys name is Tom.

yes and the voice. I've never heard Kubrick speak myself. I figured he might have an accent of some sort.

[Jewboo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuwyY2DzO2I


Hollywood jew Kubrick (take #2)




:rolleyes: 41 second video

[Shami-Amourae]

I'm still on the fence about the moon landing.

Just saying.

I do find it weird there hasn't been a permanent base there.

[PatColo]

was conspiracy theorist a thing in 2000?

The internet was not much of anything at that time. www hypertext had just started. everything else was what they now call dark web.

He says the conspiracy theorists were right on this occassion. He doesn't know about Paul Macartneys death but this one they got right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqSg6W8EMYU

I think it looks like him. Mole near the left eye. Nose. Might need to see another interview from an earlier time. See how close the mannerisms are


^ ref'ing the Kubrick interview right? Anyway the weaponized CT/ist term was invented in the latter 1960s by the CIA as a way to marginalize the growing JFK murder/coup d'etat truth movement... CIA memo was made public in the '70s in response to a FOIA request. Prior to the CIA's introduction of the term, the words "conspiracy" & "theory/ist" weren't seen/used together.




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[monty]

was conspiracy theorist a thing in 2000?

The internet was not much of anything at that time. www hypertext had just started. everything else was what they now call dark web.

He says the conspiracy theorists were right on this occassion. He doesn't know about Paul Macartneys death but this one they got right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqSg6W8EMYU

I think it looks like him. Mole near the left eye. Nose. Might need to see another interview from an earlier time. See how close the mannerisms are



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqSg6W8EMYU

[vacuum]

some interesting out takes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niEcNiU_2jA

Around 5 min mark gets heated. Guys name is Tom.

yes and the voice. I've never heard Kubrick speak myself. I figured he might have an accent of some sort.

What's really weird about this video is, why would the outtakes be released? If you're trying to create a fake, you would delete that footage. Where did this video come from?

It could be that Kubrick really did film it, and this was created as an obviously fake video so that that theory would be discarded as "internet myth". But even the video without the outtakes would cause that effect, since there are a number of ways to tell it isn't him. So again, what is the purpose of the outtakes?

[Horn]

So again, what is the purpose of the outtakes?

I didn't get that far into it, but could it be that it wasn't worth editing once complete?

Guy took a look at the bulk of his work then said to himself, "why bother picking peanuts out of crap?"

[cheka.]

coast to coat tonight -- guest on there saying video is hoax

[Neuro]

I do remember watching this "mockumentary" some 12 years ago on Swedish TV. Interestingly I don't think I had really heard much until then that the Moon Landing was faked. Interesting that the first thing you hear about it would be the very people who would have first hand knowledge of the faking, and recorded it as a hoax witness documentary...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Side_of_the_Moon_(film)

Dark Side of the Moon (film)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This article is about the mockumentary (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mockumentary). For other meanings of "Dark Side of the Moon", see Dark Side of the Moon (disambiguation) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Side_of_the_Moon_(disambiguation))


Dark Side of the Moon


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Aldrin_Apollo_11.jpg/220px-Aldrin_Apollo_11.jpg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aldrin_Apollo_11.jpg)Photo of Buzz Aldrin on the moon, used for the DVD cover


Directed by
William Karel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Karel)


Produced by
Arte France / Point du Jour


Starring
Buzz Aldrin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_Aldrin), Christiane Kubrick (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christiane_Kubrick), Henry Kissinger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger), Donald Rumsfeld (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Rumsfeld), Vernon Walters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_Walters), etc.


Narrated by
Philippe Faure (French) / Andrew Solomon (English)


Cinematography
Stéphane Saporito, A.S.C.


Edited by
Tal Zana


Distributed by
Point du Jour International


Release dates
16 October 2002, France


Running time
52 mn


Country
France


Language
French / English




Dark Side of the Moon is a French mockumentary (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mockumentary) by director William Karel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Karel) which originally aired on Arte (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arte) in 2002 with the title Opération Lune. The basic premise for the film is the theory that the television footage from the Apollo 11 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11) Moon landing was faked and recorded in a studio by the CIA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA) with help from director Stanley Kubrick (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Kubrick). It features some surprising guest appearances, most notably by Donald Rumsfeld (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Rumsfeld), Dr. Henry Kissinger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger), Alexander Haig (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Haig), Vernon Walters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_Walters), Buzz Aldrin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_Aldrin)and Stanley Kubrick's widow, Christiane Kubrick (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christiane_Kubrick).

Apparently Kubricks widow and brother in law didn't know it was a mockumentary when it was recorded...

[Neuro]

I do remember watching this "mockumentary" some 12 years ago on Swedish TV. Interestingly I don't think I had really heard much until then that the Moon Landing was faked. Interesting that the first thing you hear about it would be the very people who would have first hand knowledge of the faking, and recorded it as a hoax witness documentary...




Apparently Kubricks widow and brother in law didn't know it was a mockumentary when it was recorded...
The filmmaker is interesting too... William Karel, he emigrated to Israel when young and spent 10 years on a Kibbutz, after going to Paris in 1981, where after first working as a photographer, he started making documentary films, of French extreme right, CIA, George W Bush (2004, where he exposed Prescott Bush's connection to the Nazi's), etc...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Karel

[Glass]

I remember that mockumentary. I think one of the closing segments was a comment made by Rumsfeld and a moon landing photo with a coke can in it.

The out takes is supposed to include an exchange between the interviewer and "Kubrick" about what he is supposed to talk about, how to do talk about it. He is being coached by someone. It gets a bit heated and he calls him Tom.

I wasn't sure if the voice behind the camera in the first version of the interview, the one with the funny thing documentary mixed in, was the same voice as the outtakes one. They sounded different to me. The way the interviewer guy in the outtakes video spoke was hard to understand. rushed and slurred to my ear compared to the first one. I need to listen again, but I wondered if the outtakes was overdubbed?

[Jerrylynnb]

See Rense's website ( www.rense.com ) for the TWO videos that reveal that the first "confession" video is a fake - done on purpose with coaching of the Kubrick look-alike player (as shown in the 2nd, "outtake" video).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kNwv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CA5hwTyU6A



A thought: Could this be a double fake - that is, a fake of a fake?

Suppose you had an affair and your wife keeps getting more and more suspicious and she's starting to lean more that you did than that you didn't. So, being a clever bloke, you hire an unknown actress to seek her out and "confess" that she is having an affair with you, where she describes many of the instances where you actually DID have an affair, but, then she throws in one or two episode, that your wife, upon reflection, will know aren't true because she was with you during the time of these "fake" confessions you purposefully had her pepper her overall confession with.

At first, you wife will be broken-hearted and CONVICNED of your affair, but, upon reflection, and when you remind her where you were on the fake times you had your actress put in also, then, you wife realizes that this gal who came to her with her story was lying, at least about those episodes - this will tend to make her doubt the ENTIRE confession, and, you'll be off the hook.

Even if your actress included some episodes that were an accurate account of your philandering, you will be seen as innocent due to having this confessorette be discredited by having her include some episodes your wife KNOWS can't be true.

Could it be that the NASA insiders are starting to worry that too many intelligent and responsible people in the public are having doubts about whether or not the astronauts actually left earth orbit, so, they concoct this fake confession, allow it to float for a few hours, then float the outtake so as to discredit the fake confession, and, let that serve to shut the fuck up the mouths of those who were going public with their doubts. A fake upon a fake, to sneak by a real fake as being real.

Are there any psychological experts here who can tell us what this kind of maneuver is called? A double fake?

I am suspicious that Kubrick really did fake it, as revealed in this fake confession, at least to some extent. But, by letting us all see shortly afterwards that this Kubrick "look-alike" was being coached (as revealed in the "outtakes"), we might be drawn to the assumption that the entire fake confession is fake - that would shore up the public's confidence in the moon landing, even if it really was fake.

This is spinning me around in circles, but, somehow, these two videos smell rotten - there's something very fishy and sneaky going on here. I mean, why'd they release these videos? Why'd they even make them?
Whose behind this and WHY! I'm waiting for Jay Wiedner to comment on this - should be interesting.

[PatColo]

I listened to this poodcast yesterday,



http://crazzfiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/bataclan_cropped-70x53.jpg (http://crazzfiles.com/deep-inside-the-rabbit-hole-with-david-weiss/)
Deep Inside the Rabbit Hole With David Weiss (http://crazzfiles.com/deep-inside-the-rabbit-hole-with-david-weiss/)
 December 12, 2015 // 0 Comments



and in the last few minutes, Weiss said don't fall for this fake Kubrick "confession" vid... he added that Kubrick had asked that his video be made public 15 years after his death, and that 15 years isn't until next month.

So I checked https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Kubrick#Death which says he died Mar 7 1999, IE 15 years after was 3/7/14 aka ~21 months ago. Shame on David Weiss, damn flat earther joo! >:(

[JohnQPublic]

https://youtu.be/EAs8DK7AvHU

[Horn]

He must've been busily working with the Russians at the same time,

surprised he had time to make any other movies with all of the Apollo missions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nlFpal3Tpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missions_to_the_Moon

[Jerrylynnb]

Horn, that is a very interesting video of the Russian lunar photos - but I didn't see any photo of any of the flag poles nor flags left behind - I have to wonder why not? Surely the Russians know how conclusive such a photo would be. I also notice that the shadow areas of these Russian photos have zero, or near-zero shadow illumination, which is what you would expect on the moon, even if the "regalite" theory of ambient illumination of the shadows carried any weight - that phenomena isn't present in these Russian photos that I can see.

I wish they'd just take photos of where those flagpoles and flags are supposed to be, and, put and end to this question once and for all; no flagpoles nor flags = no man on the moon; flag poles and flags = man on the moon; end of doubts.

[Horn]

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/the-french-went-to-the-moon.jpg

[Glass]

I'm thinking the chances are pretty slim. Another future good news story like the medical breakthroughs coming in 5 years story.

It doesn't hold up to even a little scrutiny.


Europe ‘will build 3D-printed base on the moon by 2030’

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/lunar_base_made_with_3d_printing.jpg?w=748&h=447&crop=1

Scientists and space officials have unveiled plans to build a 3D-printed base on the moon within the next two decades.

The European Space Agency plans to build a ‘moon village’ from a naturally-occurring radiation-resistant moon material called regolith. The ‘village’ would most likely be built on the rim of a south pole crater called Shackleton, where it would receive almost limitless solar power.

Though the European Space Agency first discussed plans to build a lunar base from which it could explore the galaxy in 2013, it has now developed a timetable for the plans and has set 2030 as its goal.


More @ metro.co.uk (http://metro.co.uk/2016/01/02/europe-will-build-3d-printed-base-on-the-moon-by-2030-5597317/)

Admirable and clever. They are going to 3D print the shelter they need using local moon materials. Amazingly this moon material is radiation resitent, which is handy. It's also abundant. Also handy.

The material is called "regolith". It's basically dirt. Topsoil. Not too rocky. Mostly dust and sand. I'm wondering how they can 3D print with that stuff? But then you see the ESA mockup and you can see they will use it as dirt berms and dig caves in to it. So the answer to the radiation is to live in caves.

It's actually pretty logical. They should just lay it out plain. ESA, "We build bunkers under ground and people live in those". Does the dirt stop the radiation? How deep?

[cheka.]

last 10 years interesting proclamations:

1. nasa: we taped over the original footage

2. nasa: we are bombing the moon with nuclear weapon(s?) (for science)

[mick silver]

but once I drove there when I was younger , bud an me

[Neuro]

but once I drove there when I was younger , bud an me

Must have been good bud man...

[Jerrylynnb]

I just had another pesky worry - where did they pack the flagpoles that they used on the moon? How long were those poles? Eight feet? And what about the post hole digger? Did they carry that along for the ride also? They didn't show any of the astronauts digging a two foot hole, did they? And it was pretty crowded aboard that command module, so, those flagpoles would have had to be discussed and requisitioned for. I'm betting that they didn't worry about none of that because they didn't figure anybody would make a big deal out of flag poles and flags and hole diggers and such - as I remember it back then, there was such excitement that nobody I knew voiced any doubts about it.

I wonder if anyone ever asked how they dug the hole into which the flagpoles were sunk? Can you imagine an astronaut, all clad with that bulky outfit, operating a post hole digger, huffin' and puffin', and then cramming the "regalite" back into the hole after dropping the pole down into it - he'd be working up quite a sweat? No? And did they bring the post hole digger back to earth (why "on earth" would they do that - every ounce counted heavily). So, there ought to be a post hole digger laying around there somewhere. I am getting bogged down with this flagpole/flag/hole digger nonsense. Just take a photo of it and let that be the end of it.

[Horn]

Here's a page with a list of some of the experimental relay equipment that went on thru the span of all Apollo missions.

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-350/i12-10c.jpg



The top surface of the central station in an aluminum honeycomb sunshield. Before deployment, the antenna and several ALSEP experiments were attached to the brackets atop the sunshield with quick-release bolts. When raised, the sunshield and insulating side curtains provide thermal protection for the electronics. A leveling head on the antenna mast permitted the astronaut to aim the helical S-band antenna earthward.

(http://history.nasa.gov/SP-350/ch-12-6.html)http://history.nasa.gov/SP-350/ch-12-6.html

[Glass]

I'm thinking the chances are pretty slim. Another future good news story like the medical breakthroughs coming in 5 years story.

It doesn't hold up to even a little scrutiny.


Europe ‘will build 3D-printed base on the moon by 2030’

Scientists and space officials have unveiled plans to build a 3D-printed base on the moon within the next two decades.

The European Space Agency plans to build a ‘moon village’ from a naturally-occurring radiation-resistant moon material called regolith. The ‘village’ would most likely be built on the rim of a south pole crater called Shackleton, where it would receive almost limitless solar power.

Though the European Space Agency first discussed plans to build a lunar base from which it could explore the galaxy in 2013, it has now developed a timetable for the plans and has set 2030 as its goal.



https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/lunar_base_made_with_3d_printing.jpg?w=748&h=447&crop=1
More @ metro.co.uk

Admirable and clever. They are going to 3D print the shelter they need using local moon materials. Amazingly this moon material is radiation resitent, which is handy. It's also abundant. Also handy.

The material is called "regolith". It's basically dirt. Topsoil. Not too rocky. Mostly dust and sand. I'm wondering how they can 3D print with that stuff? But then you see the ESA mockup and you can see they will use it as dirt berms and dig caves in to it. So the answer to the radiation is to live in caves.

It's actually pretty logical. They should just lay it out plain. ESA, "We build bunkers under ground and people live in those". Does the dirt stop the radiation? How deep?

http://metro.co.uk/2016/01/02/europe-will-build-3d-printed-base-on-the-moon-by-2030-5597317/

[Neuro]

I just had another pesky worry - where did they pack the flagpoles that they used on the moon? How long were those poles? Eight feet? And what about the post hole digger? Did they carry that along for the ride also? They didn't show any of the astronauts digging a two foot hole, did they? And it was pretty crowded aboard that command module, so, those flagpoles would have had to be discussed and requisitioned for. I'm betting that they didn't worry about none of that because they didn't figure anybody would make a big deal out of flag poles and flags and hole diggers and such - as I remember it back then, there was such excitement that nobody I knew voiced any doubts about it.

I wonder if anyone ever asked how they dug the hole into which the flagpoles were sunk? Can you imagine an astronaut, all clad with that bulky outfit, operating a post hole digger, huffin' and puffin', and then cramming the "regalite" back into the hole after dropping the pole down into it - he'd be working up quite a sweat? No? And did they bring the post hole digger back to earth (why "on earth" would they do that - every ounce counted heavily). So, there ought to be a post hole digger laying around there somewhere. I am getting bogged down with this flagpole/flag/hole digger nonsense. Just take a photo of it and let that be the end of it.
Quite a lot on the flag on Wikipedia ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Flag_Assembly

Nothing written on how the flag pole was inserted in the ground though!

[Cebu_4_2]

Quite a lot on the flag on Wikipedia ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Flag_Assembly

Nothing written on how the flag pole was inserted in the ground though!

Lots of flags up there:



Mission
Date
Location
Erected by


Apollo 11 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11)
July 21, 1969
Sea of Tranquility (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tranquility_Base)
Neil Armstrong (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Armstrong)
Buzz Aldrin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_Aldrin)


Apollo 12 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_12)
November 19, 1969
Ocean of Storms (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_of_Storms)
Charles "Pete" Conrad (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Conrad)
Alan Bean (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Bean)


Apollo 14 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_14)
February 5, 1971
Fra Mauro formation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fra_Mauro_formation)
Alan Shepard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Shepard)
Edgar Mitchell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Mitchell)


Apollo 15 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_15)
August 1, 1971
Hadley–Apennine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadley%E2%80%93Apennine)
David Scott (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Scott)
James Irwin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Irwin)


Apollo 16 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_16)
April 21, 1972
Descartes Highlands (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descartes_Highlands)
John Young (javascript:void(0))
Charles Duke (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Duke)


Apollo 17 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_17)
December 11, 1972
Taurus–Littrow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus%E2%80%93Littrow)
Eugene Cernan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Cernan)
Harrison Schmitt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Schmitt)

[mick silver]

I also had a flag and a pole with me when me an bud went there . me an bud own half the moon now ....
Must have been good bud man...

[Jerrylynnb]

I'm quoting a paragraph from the wikipedia webpage:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Flag_Assembly

concerning the flags:

"A review of photographs taken by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) INDICATES that flags placed during the Apollo 12, Apollo 16, and Apollo 17 missions were still standing as of 2012.[7]".


Notice the verb "INDICATES" (my caps).

What? Why not "SHOWS"? Because the resolution is such that only one or two pixels (if that many) cover where a flag and flagpole would be. Are they teasing us? Oh, excuse me, they just couldn't afford to bring along a better camera with enough zoom to SHOW a flag and a flagpole, so, we are left with only an "INDICATION" that the flagpoles are still there (that's ok, folks, because they overlay their photos with white arrows showing us where their photos "indicate" that their stupid flags really are - trust us, we wouldn't make this up).

See for yourself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Reconnaissance_Orbiter

Ok, I admit I'm being a cad about this.

But it just irks me that they can't zoom in right where the flagpoles and flags are and let the whole world see it in real time. If I were on a jury and had to grade this from a "beyond reasonable doubt" criteria, well, I got "reasonable" doubts - so there. It is like when a prosecutor claims the defendant used a gun, and produces a blurry grainy photo of what could be a gun, were it a sharp and clear photo, but, assures the jury and judge that this phony baloney photo really is that of the weapon, because the authorities who took the photo say so. I am offended by this kind of underhanded chicanery.

[Horn]

Cause the flags are all white surrender type from environment and no longer U.S.?

Best site I can see for the landing sites on the moon.

http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/featured_sites#ApolloLandingSites



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDV1WzQ8-ww#t=11

[Jerrylynnb]

The video doesn't show much of anything about a flag or flagpole, but:

Go to the photo for Apollo 16 (the 13th photo from the top) of:

http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/featured_sites#descrId12

and look at the upper part to the right - that looks like what might be a pole and a flag, with a shadow to match. This is getting closer to something we can recognize, but, still, a bit too fuzzy to be conclusive. But there are other shadows in this very same picture that are way off parallel, so, there must be some explanation for that.

Anyway, this is evidence, somewhat, that supports there being a flagpole there - surely they can do a flyby where they can get a zoom on it about 4 times the rez here - that would do it. Still, this does argue for there being a flag pole there, but just not quite clear enough to end all doubts.

Getting closer, though.

[gunDriller]

A person can only keep up on so much of the Bullshit that the US government spews.
Sorting it out is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than a full-time job.
The alleged moon landing is one alleged historical event which I have not tried to keep up on.

Was the moon project used as a cover for anything else major ?
I have always felt that the Vietnam War did not make sense (no oil, and obviously not a threat as a Communist nation) - unless the goal was simple population reduction - which only makes sense if you're a Jew and just want to practice killing.
I wonder if one of the purposes of the Vietnam War was to keep the US extraordinarily distracted while Israel
A/ Stole weapons grade uranium and
B/ killed a whole bunch of their neighbors.
Seeing as how the USS Liberty incident occurred right in the middle of this time-frame ...

Is there a connection between the Moon project and the Vietnam War ?

[Horn]

but just not quite clear enough to end all doubts.

NASA mission lately appears to be increasing doubt not eliminating it, so they get a large stipend. lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7F4izvq0YU

[JohnQPublic]

Chinese Lunar Rover Finds No Evidence Of American Moon Landings (http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/)

September 22nd, 2014

Beijing | Top officials of the Chinese Space Program have come out this morning and expressed their feelings that the American moon landings “were a complete hoax” reports the Beijing Daily Express

"These recent discoveries could strangely give credence to conspiracy theorists whom have claimed for decades that America had never gone to the moon but that the American moon landings were but an elaborate hoax to foul Russia into the space race and eventually, the nuclear arms race, with the purpose of ruining Russia, much like the financing of the Mujahideen forces during the soviet Afghanistan war successfully achieved."



Propaganda wars?

[Horn]

Chinese Lunar Rover Finds No Evidence Of American Moon Landings (http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/chinese-lunar-rover-finds-no-evidence-of-american-moon-landings/)
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Seems reliable and legit! ;D

[Horn]

October 7, 2015 (http://trendswends.com/out-box/3-reasons-why-nasas-moon-landing-mission-was-real-original-images-declassified/)

NASA decided to declassify Project Apollo files earlier this month. The complete photo gallery is now available in Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive). If you carefully examine these pictures you will see there is a trail of continuity in the shots. Some even have some shots taken randomly. There could be no way someone could keep taking pictures at definite intervals. There is a clear trail of continuity in the images and we at TrendsWends, definitely do not sense any trail of hoax in there.

http://trendswends.com/out-box/3-reasons-why-nasas-moon-landing-mission-was-real-original-images-declassified/

slideshow at link

this page gets interesting,

https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/page7

[Glass]

This is an interesting video by Crrow777. Looks at a recent ISS video released by NASA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2Dk4dYEhYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2Dk4dYEhYM

Its pretty clear NASA are faking it. If you watch this video you can see they "prepare" viewers for the edits by sending flashes across the screen. The first one or two flahses are not related to a cut in the video, but it looks like a screen swipe or some kind of transition between scenes.

Then later they do they same but they use the flashes to cover up edits in the footage. There appears to be no reason for the edits, because the scene is just someone doing personal grooming. But if you actually pay attention you can see they line the person up as if they have not moved between the edits but objects have moved around. Been moved from the sticky board or placed in another location.

The logical conclusion is the edits are needed for when the plane finishes the weightless decent and needs to start the next run. There are a few other anomalies such as allowing water to float around. Somehow it gets cleared out by the AC or something?

And the woman?? What do we think? Pretty obvious.

[Glass]

interesting images. From Jeranisms video linked below.

This one is from inside NASA's ISS control centre. Some one in a wheel chair. Looks like Bush senior but never mind.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/glassgold/nasa/nasa_ISS_fake_screen1_zps1k5gipl6.jpg

Look at the middle large screen. It shows a man standing in front of a blue screen with a white grid on it. You can see over the wall into the back ground. That man is an astronaut and he is supposed to be on the ISS. He is playing with an apple in a gravity free environment.

If ou look at the far right screen, the portion that is visible, you can just see the same mans hand but this is the close up shot. You can see that there is no blue screen with a white grid behind him in that image.

so they are filming, either in an aircraft or actually on earth in front of a screen.

I got this at minute
2:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrWVDtQgf28

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/glassgold/nasa/nasa_ISS_fake_screen2_zps0fepiupg.jpg
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrWVDtQgf28)

[Glass]

No space suits required when you open the hatch door.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/glassgold/nasa/nasa_ISS_openhatch_nosuit_zpscqplurfl.jpg

That is lucky. From Jeranisms video linked below in #81.

[Glass]

Earth from the moon?

Earth image.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/glassgold/nasa/moon_from_earth1_zps0rqfnrgm.jpg

Earth after running through photoshop and adjusting levels.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc88/glassgold/nasa/moon_from_earth2_zps2ptm8ulh.jpgyou might need to zoom in but it's clear the image was edited. From Jeranisms video linked below in #81.

[PatColo]

interesting images.

This one is from inside NASA's ISIS control centre. Some one in a wheel chair. Looks like Bush senior but never mind.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrWVDtQgf28)

what's ISIS stand for? Besides Israeli Secret Intel Service, I mean?

[Glass]

yeah sorry, should read ISS.

AFAIK the ISIS haven't announced a space program but they may as well. The quality of their head chopper or burned alive videos, they should be able to pull it off.

[PatColo]

^ not sure, those ISIS jooz/stooges are all larger than life; need a lot of fuel to get their big selves out of earth's atmosphere;


http://cdns.yournewswire.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Giant-ISIS-soldiers.jpg


OTOH, they DO have sweet propaganda video sound stages; if nothing else they can just pull another Apollo/Capricorn One (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077294/) on the world...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41nLNFwoz4o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41nLNFwoz4o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz3oWmDUW1Q << 4.8M views! :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz3oWmDUW1Q

[Glass]

Look at the middle large screen. It shows a man standing in front of a blue screen with a white grid on it. You can see over the wall into the back ground. That man is an astronaut and he is supposed to be on the ISS. He is playing with an apple in a gravity free environment.


So I ask myself, where does he get the apple when he is on the ISS? Is it an apple? Is it a green screen object? So they have some thing on a string that is green and they can CGI it with some other kind of object.

Perhaps they can replace it with some kind of spinning object that looks weightless? And the man can't even see what the object is or knows what it is going to be, and imagines it. But plays with a green ball the whole while.

[Ponce]

Great thread guys......thank you.

V

[mick silver]

http://i.imgur.com/0uH9Uup.png

[Glass]

interesting ISS video showing fakery of the NASA. No people are on the ISS.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7LT3ACoWQ

I've seen this video segment many times before and not noticed the problem with it. The Astronaught becomes transparent and disappears through the wall? His name must be Casper.

The last minute or two is a cracker. It shows another piece of footage which clearly shows that gravity suddenly came to the ISS.

There is also another similar video where the guy shoots himself down to the other end, then springboards off the wall or something, into the corridor. I'd like to look at that one again. Maybe this is the one that I think I have seen many times.

[Glass]

Crrow777's position is that "space" is likely a liquid, water. Not proof, but a statement of his conclusion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmhX1w_Ahoc

I tend to agree that it isn't a vacuum of nothing - obviously it isn't empty of anything except air, which means it isn't really a vacuum.

I think the great flood was probably caused by something else. I think it was the condensing of the water vapour that surrounded or covered the earth when the break with Saturn occured. This reduced the temperature of the earth, causing the suspended mist to condense and fall to earth as rain.

This mist was what enabled the massive/giant "prehistoric" trees and animals (dinosaurs) to exist. I contend that beasts that big would not have been able to survive on earth unless it was vastly different atmosphere and it would have had to have been much richer in oxygen and moisture. There is no way in my mind that animals that big could consume food and water fast enough to sustain themselves. I believe they may have been absoring moisture through their skin and that the atmosphere was very damp making this possible.

Ancient texts seem to bear this out with suggestions that even man could live for many centuries. At a time when there was more oxygen and moisture in the air.

Once the break happened and the water condensed out of the atmosphere the beasts perished. I think it's a reasonable thesis.

brings to mind the lyrics of the yellow submarine

In the town where I was born
Lived a man who sailed to sea
And he told us of his life
In the land of submarines

So we sailed up to the sun
Till we found the sea of green
And we lived beneath the waves
In our yellow submarine

We all live in a yellow submarine
Yellow submarine, yellow submarine
We all live in a yellow submarine
Yellow submarine, yellow submarine

And our friends are all on board
Many more of them live next door
And the band begins to play

[Glass]

hmmm. So, just take a look at these images and this story, and tell me NASA is really doing space.

This is not 3D. This is "virtual" reality. It's virtually real.


One Giant Leap for Virtual Reality
How NASA is helping an Aussie game developer create amazing VR.

Earthlight: one giant leap for virtual reality
http://www.theage.com.au/content/dam/images/g/o/7/b/6/f/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.go74xj.png/1460694937468.png
A screenshot from Earthlight shows the ISS above Earth. Photo: Opaque Media

2016 is shaping up to be the year that virtual reality finally came good.
With both the HTC Vive and Oculus Rift VR kits landing on customers' doors in the last month, there are now two different VR platforms that deliver on the revolutionary potential of this all-encompassing technology.
While the hardware has been getting rave reviews (http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/oculus-rift-first-australian-review-20160401-gnw003.html), they demand a wealth of experiences to flourish, and one of the most anticipated virtual jaunts is being built by a small Aussie developer called Opaque Media.

http://www.theage.com.au/content/dam/images/g/o/7/c/k/1/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.go74xj.png/1460694937468.jpg
Astronauts are lowered into a pool at NASA's Neutral Buoyancy Lab. Photo: Bennett Ring

ased in Melbourne, their title Earthlight (http://www.earthlightvr.com/#earthlight-landing) aims to replicate the training of a NASA astronaut, before sending players to the International Space Station (ISS). Early demos of this experience were so enthusiastically received that NASA itself reached out to the team and granted them a first for Australian game developers — behind the scenes access to the Johnson Space Center where the team were given unprecedented access to the real training facilities and those who run them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmgNpfqSy2M


http://www.theage.com.au/content/dam/images/g/o/7/c/h/1/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.go74xj.png/1460694937468.jpg
Inside NASA's mock-up of the ISS. Photo: Bennett Ring

We joined the team on their visit to NASA's Houston-based headquarters, to see what goes into building the most authentic space experience ever created.

According to Norman Wang, project lead on the game, the opportunity to visit NASA is a god-send. "The visit is invaluable to the project. Given the subject matter of space exploration, there is just so much depth in the source material that we can't even gleam without being able to directly connect with people involved." Over the course of three days in late March, half of Opaque's staff visited each of the key facilities used by NASA to train its astronauts.


First stop on the research trip was the world's largest indoor pool, the Neutral Buoyancy Lab. This is used to acclimatise astronauts to the effects of weightlessness, and trainees spend six hours at a time working on a mock-up of the ISS at the bottom of the pool. The first episode of Earthlight will focus heavily on this, serving as a tutorial to ease players into the motion-based gameplay that will feature heavily in later episodes.


http://www.theage.com.au/content/dam/images/g/o/7/b/6/h/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.go74xj.png/1460694937468.png

Simple tasks such as moving around the outside of the ISS via handrails, unscrewing access panels, and removing circuit boards are all practiced extensively in this area, which may seem mundane compared to the action-packed shoot-outs of today's games.
However, even something as simple as using a drill becomes a rewarding experience in VR, as explained by Emre Deniz, the game's design and creative lead.
"We're able to map people's hands and head movements directly onto their digital avatar," he said. "This means that even very normal movements or interactions within a digital environment are very engaging ... the experiences we create facilitate a greater variety of emotional reactions from players."

http://www.theage.com.au/content/dam/images/g/o/7/c/g/c/image.related.articleLeadwide.620x349.go74xj.png/1460694937468.jpg

Emre Deniz checks out the bubble helmet on a NASA suit. Photo: Bennett Ring

As players will spend a large part of the Earthlight experience from within a space suit, getting up close and personal with the real Extravehicular Mobility Unit suits worn today gave the team the opportunity to capture the finest of details, right down to the pattern of the material that is used to protect against micro-meteor strikes.

The team were even able to don the suit's bubble helmet, and noticed that the astronauts had a much clearer view than Earthlight's virtual helmets, forcing them to adjust their in-game field of view.

NASA's Systems Engineering Simulator (SES) building houses large physical replicas within projection domes where trainees practice using the ISS' giant robotic Canadarm2 arm, as well as docking procedures that are still being developed for the new Orion space capsule. These activities will also appear in the game, so the team spent a morning trying out each module, as a simulation within a simulation presents unique challenges for the developers.

Norman explains, "SES is a very busy space with lots of little bits and pieces crammed into a really small space. In VR, it's difficult to clearly represent objects that are close to you, as you can see an object in one eye but not the other because it is so close to your head, which is known as 'parallax'. SES is basically the worst case scenario for parallax problems, and requires some clever VR tricks to work around.
One of the most valuable activities for the team was a tour of the replica ISS used to train astronauts in emergency procedures, such as a fire or pressure drop. The team were escorted through this huge structure (the real ISS is the length of an American football field) by former astronaut Dr Thomas Marshburn, who has spent six months living on the real station.


Another couple paragraphs at The Age

(http://www.theage.com.au/technology/games/earthlight-one-giant-leap-for-virtual-reality-20160415-go74xj.html)I expect this will get as much critical thought traction as 60 million year old Brontosaurus meat.

[Glass]

SPACE-X to send MRSA bacterium to International Space Station
Lots of threads on the Moon. This one should go in the "What could possibly go wrong" thread.

But then, that would give credence to the idea that there is a space station up there with people on it. That the video linkups are real. That the interviews of "spacetranaughts" are real. That the women with hair that stands up in weightlessness are not upside down or using "product" to make their hair stand on end. That the spacetranaughts are not suspended using harnesses. That they are not using chroma-screens to project some kind of space station behind them. That people can pee and crap and go without showers and shed skin and hair and spill food and water around sensitive instruments and breath in the same air for year after year on a "space submarine" and it's always so smiley happy and jolly to be in space. ....../sarc

So just read this story and contemplate it for a while. Let it percolate and sink in a bit. And apart from thinking "what could possibly go wrong", think about what this story is saying about biology in space, biology in radiation. Then think about what else is on board that thing, exposed to the same things this bacteria is exposed to. Then ask how likely is any of it?


The Next SpaceX Launch Will Carry Deadly Bacteria

Sending it into space might give us an early look at what the future holds.
On February 14th, SpaceX will be transporting a lethal pathogen into space for study upon the International Space Station. What sounds like the premise for a claustrophobic horror movie is actually going to be a study of what impact near-zero gravity has on gene expression and mutation patterns.

The pathogen which will be the subject of the study, sponsored by NASA and CASIS (http://www.iss-casis.org/), is particularly resilient one. Methicillin-resistant staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) is a bacterium which is at the root of many hard-to-treat infections. MRSA often flourishes in environments that are crowded and confined, where poor hygiene practices spread. This includes everywhere from military barracks (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/03/mrsa-military-rate_n_1647015.html) to prisons (http://epi.publichealth.nc.gov/cd/mrsa_ca/jails.html) and even hospitals (http://www.aftermath.com/content/why-is-mrsa-a-big-problem-in-hospitals).

Once the Falcon 9 rocket (http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/rockets/a13927/space-reusable-falcon-9-diagram/) gets to the ISS, the MRSA will find its way into the hands of Dr. Anita Goel, M.D., Ph.D., and CEO of Nanobiosym (http://nanobiosym.com). In 2015, Goel won $500,000 in grant funding through the Galactic Grant Competition."We will leverage the microgravity environment on the ISS to accelerate the Precision Medicine revolution here on Earth," she said (http://www.iss-casis.org/NewsEvents/PressReleases/tabid/111/ArticleID/182/ArtMID/586/Governor-Baker-Massachusetts-Life-Sciences-Center-and-CASIS-Announce-Winners-of-Galactic-Grant-Competition.aspx) at the time. "Our ability to anticipate drug-resistant mutations with Gene-RADAR will lead to next generation antibiotics that are more precisely tailored to stop the spread of the world's most dangerous pathogens."

Goel hypothesizes that microgravity will speed up to the evolution of MRSA, granting scientists on Earth a look into the future of where the bacterium is heading, to better plan against it.

Popular Mechanics (http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/rockets/a25084/spacex-carrying-msra-to-iss)


Back in 2015, Nanobiosym developed a device known as Gene-RADAR (https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/experiments/2420.html) - the world's first mobile scanner that enables real-time diagnosis of any disease, at a tenth of the cost (http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnnosta/2017/02/03/elon-musk-is-about-to-launch-a-lethal-pathogen-into-space-and-it-might-just-save-your-life/#7971d623761f) of similar diagnostic tests.

The device will be used on the International Space Station to evaluate how bacterial mutations of two strains of MRSA respond to the microgravity environment.
From that, Goel and her team will develop models that predict how the antibiotic-resistant pathogen will mutate on Earth in the coming years, giving drug developers a chance to pre-empt its next defensive moves.

"Our ability to anticipate drug-resistant mutations with Gene-RADAR will lead to next generation antibiotics that are more precisely tailored to stop the spread of the world's most dangerous pathogens," says Goel (https://www.yahoo.com/news/next-spacex-launch-carry-deadly-175657720.html).

At this stage, the team doesn't know for sure how the MRSA bacteria will respond to their new home in Earth's orbit, but previous research (https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/experiments/92.html) on space-faring bacteria has shown that the environment can result in similar growth, mutation, and population trends - just at an accelerated rate.

This is because in space, some metabolism-related proteins became more active, and low-dose space radiation can change the activity of certain genes.
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But it's thought that the effects of microgravity are the main drivers for this accelerated mutation, and suspect that exposure to radiation outside the protective barrier of Earth's magnetic field could also be at play.

Science Alert (http://www.sciencealert.com/spacex-is-about-to-send-a-lethal-superbug-into-orbit)

If you got to Science Alert they show some Purple Virus..... purple.

Got all that? Radiation accelerates the growth?? People are on the station, in an environment of accelerated growth. We getting that part? People, basically big wet sacks of bacteria. In an accelerated growth environment?

And Gene-RADAR? what the hell is that? Is it like a SciScan (Red Dwarf) or a TriCorder (Star Trek). It can just scan and diagnose a disease. Amazing. Why doesn't my Doctor have one? How come ParaMedics don't have them? Surely they have these in the Armed Forces right? Combat medics can just scan the wounded to diagnose whats wrong with the injured..... He's dead Jim.

Did Theranos know of this technology? Apparently not.

[Glass]

Crrow777 covers Virgin Galactic.
Still not in Space

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMj_aXcD_Wo

Been making statements of going to space for more than a decade. According to wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Galactic),
Founded in 2004
2008 announced first flight in 2009
in 2009 Announced first flight in 2010
In 2009 Announced first flight in 2011
in 2011 Announced first flight in 2013
In 2013 announced 100 launches per day
in 2013 announced flights to start end of 2014
in 2014 announced flights to start in 2015

So far lost 1 craft, still building replacement
Maximum test flight speed Mach 1.2 = half required speed
Maximum test flight altitude = 67 miles = suggested maximum flight possibility for all craft, turbine or rocket powered.
Craft designs are not sufficient for fuel capacity required for orbital flight
No video ever produced of any flights
Craft designations display significant numberology. 33/11 etc
SpacePort America located near the Longitude and Latitudes of 33 and 107/108.
Space Port America is located near the town of Truth or Consequences.

[Glass]

Space X to send Two Tourists on a trip around the Moon in 2018.

Another teaser story from your friendly Space Fakers Space - X. Juts like the Apollo Astronauts before them.


Musk's SpaceX Will Send Two Private Citizens On A Trip Around The Moon In 2018

Not wanting to be bothered by such earthly matters as Goldman's downgrade of Tesla to Sell which sank the stock 4% lower today, killing the recent euphoria-driven rally, Elon Musk has instead chosen to look skyward, and specifically toward the moon, where as his SpaceX company announced moments ago, it will send two private citizens - supposedly not PwC auditors - on a voluntary (and very expensive) trip around the moon in the second quarter of 2018. From the SpaceX press release (http://www.spacex.com/news/2017/02/27/spacex-send-privately-crewed-dragon-spacecraft-beyond-moon-next-year):
SPACEX TO SEND PRIVATELY CREWED DRAGON SPACECRAFT BEYOND THE MOON NEXT YEAR

We are excited to announce that SpaceX has been approached to fly two private citizens on a trip around the moon late next year. They have already paid a significant deposit to do a moon mission. Like the Apollo astronauts before them, these individuals will travel into space carrying the hopes and dreams of all humankind, driven by the universal human spirit of exploration. We expect to conduct health and fitness tests, as well as begin initial training later this year.

ZeroHedge (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-27/musks-spacex-will-send-two-private-citizens-trip-around-moon-2018)

And if you don't by that story they have Self driving cars that are Environmentally friendly Zero Carbon Footprint and they also have a Hyper Rail...... and they have a super profitable zero carbon footprint solar power station.

Ever notice how Elon Musk's name is an anagram for Leon Skum? A quick google seems like lots of people have noticed

edit: Here's a couple numberology Xtras:
Cape Canaveral = 66
Date of announcement = 2/27/2017 = 2+ 27+20+17 = 66

227 looks like 22/7 = pi
pi = 3.14
Twenty Two Divided by Seven = 314 (ordinal)

Cape Canaveral initials = CC = 33
Tourists = 33 (reduced)
Thirty Three = 141 (reverse ordinal)
Tourists = 141 (ordinal)

Tourists = 57 (reverse reduced)
Moon = 57 (ordinal)

[Joshua01]

I sure as hell wouldn't go! Me thinks it's all fake speech anyway! The way things are today they will never be able to pull the wool over America's eyes twice in one century, not with the technology available to root out the truth now a days.

[Neuro]

I sure as hell wouldn't go! Me thinks it's all fake speech anyway! The way things are today they will never be able to pull the wool over America's eyes twice in one century, not with the technology available to root out the truth now a days.

They do it all the time, JFK, Tonkin bay, Apollo project, Iran-contras, 911, Obama

[Joshua01]

They do it all the time, JFK, Tonkin bay, Apollo project, Iran-contras, 911, Obama
Yeah but at what point to we say the jig is up! More and more people are waking up....the question is how many are enough to actually turn the tide? I don't know the answer to that question.

[monty]

Yeah but at what point to we say the jig is up! More and more people are waking up....the question is how many are enough to actually turn the tide? I don't know the answer to that question.


People don't think logically. If it is -40F at 37000 ft. What is the temparature at the international space station space station? Where do they store enough oxygen for breathing between replenishing trips? What is the temparature there? How is it heated. How much drinking water storage do they have? If people asked themselves these questions they wouldn't buy this bullcrap.

[crimethink]

Elon Musk is one of the great confidence men of history. There will no circumlunar flight, next year, or ever, by SpaceX.

[Glass]

People don't think logically. If it is -40F at 37000 ft. What is the temparature at the international space station space station? Where do they store enough oxygen for breathing between replenishing trips? What is the temparature there? How is it heated. How much drinking water storage do they have? If people asked themselves these questions they wouldn't buy this bullcrap.

Apparently SPACE is thousands of degrees hot. BUT because it's a vacuum that HEAT doesn't condense enough to BURN anything. Of course if you got close enough to the Sun you would hit some condensed PLASMA and get FRIED. But most of the time it's freezing boiling icy hot.

Some parts of space are hot! Gas between stars, as well as the solar wind, both seem to be what we call "empty space," yet they can be more than a thousand degrees, even millions of degrees.

However, there's also what’s known as the cosmic background temperature, which is minus 455 degrees Fahrenheit. So what would a thermometer in space reveal? Somewhere between those extremes — depending on whether it's in the sun or the shade.

Here's what’s going on: Most of the gas in space is too thin to warm anything up. Essentially, there are not enough gas particles to "bump" into and transfer heat to an object. So if you were in space, but shielded from the sun, you would radiate away nearly all your heat pretty quickly and cool to the cosmic background temperature. Step (or float) into the sun, and you’d be warmed. Either way you'd need lots of protection!

Space.com (because we've been there) (http://www.space.com/14719-spacekids-temperature-outer-space.html)

[Neuro]

Here is a video, a bit long, showing many of the apparent hoaxes involved with the Apollo program! I like the one with two different video films shot at the exactly the same spot on "the moon", while claiming it was at a distance. Start at last 10 minutes for that one. Someone got Lazy... :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3xmK-LNhtA&feature=share

[Joshua01]

The longer I live the more I realize the degree of lies I've been told over my lifetime

[Glass]

that video is a keeper. Still watching 2nd half. The only question I have so far is, is that LIM actually one that went to the moon and came back or is it a replica? If a replica is it 1:1? Likewise the orbiting module.

I remember seeing a space exhibition at the London museum, where they had an orbiting module on display and thinking that it was mighty small. Too small for the number of people they said were in it. But I don't know if it was a replica or real deal.

The natural history museum also had a full sized dinosaur. Can't recall if a T Rex or Bronto, I think Bronto. Was a replica. Very big. It seems that all museum dinosaurs are replicas....

[Neuro]

that video is a keeper. Still watching 2nd half. The only question I have so far is, is that LIM actually one that went to the moon and came back or is it a replica? If a replica is it 1:1? Likewise the orbiting module.

I remember seeing a space exhibition at the London museum, where they had an orbiting module on display and thinking that it was mighty small. Too small for the number of people they said were in it. But I don't know if it was a replica or real deal.

The natural history museum also had a full sized dinosaur. Can't recall if a T Rex or Bronto, I think Bronto. Was a replica. Very big. It seems that all museum dinosaurs are replicas....

I went to the science museum in London in the end of March, they had a lunar lander module there. It seems like getting in and out of it with the space suits, would be virtually impossible!

[Joshua01]

That's because it is ;)

There was no Moon landing. We've been had!
I went to the science museum in London in the end of March, they had a lunar lander module there. It seems like getting in and out of it with the space suits, would be virtually impossible!

[StreetsOfGold]

There was no Moon landing. We've been had!

Exactly, you cannot land on a LIGHT, a transparent one at that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDoGotVDFnQ

[Neuro]

Exactly, you cannot land on a LIGHT, a transparent one at that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDoGotVDFnQ

That video is ridiculous! I just looked at it for 30 seconds, and no you can't just see through it. It is oceans apart from doubting the lunar landings and the existence of the moon as a satellite of earth. Troll! ;D

[Joshua01]

I got to :48....I'm not buying it
Exactly, you cannot land on a LIGHT, a transparent one at that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDoGotVDFnQ

[Cebu_4_2]

I got to :48....I'm not buying it


Bull Fucking Shit! Remember this forum decided that the Earth was flat?

Fucking nutcase.

[Glass]

That video is ridiculous! I just looked at it for 30 seconds, and no you can't just see through it. It is oceans apart from doubting the lunar landings and the existence of the moon as a satellite of earth. Troll! ;D

I have seen examples where it looks like some "points" of light are apparent in the darkened areas/slices of the moons surface - as it waxes and wanes. I'm not saying transparent but certainly interesting phenomena that on the face of it look like light shining through but might be explained by something else. It's possible they could be points of light reflectivity but it's hard to tell. If they were, the question would be, what is the light source being reflected. It can't be sunlight...so not sure.

I haven't watched that vid. Just commenting on the idea, having seen a few examples before.

[Glass]

I went to the science museum in London in the end of March, they had a lunar lander module there. It seems like getting in and out of it with the space suits, would be virtually impossible!

I'm trying to remember what I saw, because it was such a long time ago now. I think they had the lunar lander suspended in the air. Can't recall if it was upside down or not. I remember there was an astronaut figure, again, can't recall if it was near the lunar module or the capsule. IIRC you could walk along and up this gantry way which took you amongst the exhibits and allowed you to get closer to high exhibits and look down on lower exhibits and at some point you were level with one of those vehicles and could see in through the hatch. I think it was the re-entry/orbiter vehicle but I could be mistaken. It really struck me as odd, how small the units were that I thought they were 2/3'rds scale or something.

[PatColo]

Fetzer on with host Brian Ruhe,

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WcpNwF5ehls/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=67&sigh=u_Mf9apm49zS3z9jUL-RWCn6Wbc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcpNwF5ehls) 12:26
Jim Fetzer on the Moon Landing Hoax (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcpNwF5ehls)

104 views
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[Norweger]

I always enjoy browsing the comment section of moon landing videos on youtube. They are very similar to what you find in holocaust videos.

"I can't belive people are actually so stupid blablabla the moon landing happenened for sure because my grandmother saw it on tv and her uncle made pasta for a guy that supplied NASA with gravel"

"Moon landing deniers are cancer"

And so on.. nothing of substance, just condemnation and ridicule.

[StreetsOfGold]

That video is ridiculous! I just looked at it for 30 seconds, and no you can't just see through it. It is oceans apart from doubting the lunar landings and the existence of the moon as a satellite of earth. Troll! ;D

30 seconds? Josh says 48

WOW! How incredibly UN objective, so, from a NON Christian who has WAY more video PROOF that the moon is in fact, TRANSPARENT!!

2:50


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH7BjIzXWOg

[Neuro]

30 seconds? Josh says 48

WOW! How incredibly UN objective, so, from a NON Christian who has WAY more video PROOF that the moon is in fact, TRANSPARENT!!

2:50


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH7BjIzXWOg

What an idiot, those 'stars' he saw in his 5" telescope would go away immediately if he bothered to clean the mirror/lens. You can't see the dark side of the moon in daylight, because you can't see it in night time, but you can see the atmosphere, that is why the sky is blue, and the atmosphere is below the moon.

Logic isn't really your cup of tea is it?

[Glass]

the last crescent moon we had, a week or 10 days ago, was looking like the thumbnail in that YT video. It was possible to see the whole shape of the moon. Even through it was in crescent you could still see a faint lit outline of the whole of it. I thought it was unusual but couldn't convince myself I hadn't seen a moon like that before and just never paid any notion to it. Not saying you could see the darkened surface facing us just that the light illuminating it was obviously further to the rear of it, than to the side, but not by much. The whole "dark side" of the moon must have been lit up brightly for it to happen. The times I saw it were between about 6:30 pm and maybe 8pm. At 6:30pm the moon is already nearly due north. Maybe NNE. Not long after sun set.

[Glass]

NASA delays launch of $23 Billion dollar Moon Rocket and Capsule?

They spent $23 billion but then Choke on spending another $600 to $900 million. 3% - 5% more to send astronauts around the moon. Also still using tech from old projects. No new tech in the Space race. Same as everything else. Nothing new in the world of technology. Just the same shit for the last 100 years.

This rocket will only go up 100 miles anyway, which also appears to be the determined maximum height and the accepted border between Earth atmosphere and "Space".

So I wonder if it was the money or something else that is stopping them from sending someone up..... They're sending astronauts to the ISS already aren't they? Whats so different about this rocket if it's only going 100 miles up? I think the last quote speaks volumes.


NASA delays debut launch of $23 billion moon rocket and capsule
NASA has delayed the first launch of its heavy-payload rocket until 2019 and decided against an idea floated by the White House to put astronauts aboard the capsule that is set to fly around the moon, the U.S. space agency said on Friday.
The National Aeronautics and Space Administration had hoped to launch the Space Launch System, or SLS, rocket in November 2018. The rocket will send the deep-space Orion capsule on a high lunar orbit.

The launch is part of NASA`s long-term program to use the rocket to get astronauts and equipment to Mars.

In February, at the behest of President Donald Trump`s administration, NASA began to weigh the implications of adding a two-person crew for the trial flight.
The conclusion of the study was to wait until a second flight before adding a crew, NASA Acting Administrator Robert Lightfoot said.

The research "really reaffirmed that the baseline plan we have in place was the best way for us to go,” he told reporters on a conference call.
Adding systems to support a crew would have cost NASA $600 million to $900 million more and would likely have delayed the flight to 2020, he said.

Even without a crew, the SLS will not be ready to blast off from the Kennedy Space Center in Florida until 2019, Lightfoot said, adding that the agency would have a more specific timeframe in about a month.
The delay would push back the rocket’s second flight beyond 2021, said NASA Associate Administrator William Gerstenmaier.

The delays are largely due to technical issues encountered during the development of SLS and Orion, as well as tornado damage to the rocket’s manufacturing plant in New Orleans.

By the end of the next fiscal year on September 30, 2018, NASA will have spent $23 billion on the rocket, capsule, launch site and support systems, according to an audit by NASA’s Office of Inspector General.
That excludes $9 billion spent on the mothballed Constellation lunar exploration programme, which included initial development of the Orion and a second heavy-lift rocket.

Initially, the SLS rocket, which uses engines left over from the space shuttle programme and shuttle-derived solid rocket boosters, will have the capacity to put about 77 tons (70 metric tons) into an orbit about 100 miles (160 km) above Earth.
Later versions are expected to carry nearly twice that load.

“We’re really building a system,” Gerstenmaier said. “It is much, much more than one flight.”


Post News (http://postnewsd2.blogspot.in/2017/05/nasa-delays-debut-launch-of-23-billion.html) - I don't know this source

[Norweger]

One thing i've noticed when it comes to "discussions" about the moon landing is that plebs always say that "If we didn't go to the moon then the soviets would have exposed us blablabla" nonsense. As if there really was animosity between Soviet and the West. Also as if the Soviet press wasn't controlled by jews and that it somehow had the ability to penetrate the western jew controlled press. Holy crap people are stupid. And always that personal twist to it.. "I was 21 at the time blabla".

[Uncle Salty]

One thing i've noticed when it comes to "discussions" about the moon landing is that plebs always say that "If we didn't go to the moon then the soviets would have exposed us blablabla" nonsense. As if there really was animosity between Soviet and the West. Also as if the Soviet press wasn't controlled by jews and that it somehow had the ability to penetrate the western jew controlled press. Holy crap people are stupid. And always that personal twist to it.. "I was 21 at the time blabla".

Yep.

At the top, they all know the earth is flat as well.

Gotta keep the bigger lie going.

[Dogman]

Funny !

[Neuro]

One thing i've noticed when it comes to "discussions" about the moon landing is that plebs always say that "If we didn't go to the moon then the soviets would have exposed us blablabla" nonsense. As if there really was animosity between Soviet and the West. Also as if the Soviet press wasn't controlled by jews and that it somehow had the ability to penetrate the western jew controlled press. Holy crap people are stupid. And always that personal twist to it.. "I was 21 at the time blabla".
Soviet Union was given millions of ton of wheat by the Nixon administration in the late 60's early 70's, at ridiculously low prices, to keep their mouth shut.

[Horn]

Soviet Union was given millions of ton of wheat by the Nixon administration in the late 60's early 70's, at ridiculously low prices, to keep their mouth shut.

To spread the fiat dollar communism.

[7th trump]

Soviet Union was given millions of ton of wheat by the Nixon administration in the late 60's early 70's, at ridiculously low prices, to keep their mouth shut.

Ohhh looky there!
Another arm chair mouth suggesting something he cannot prove because he doesnt for sure know.....just spewing forth what appears to be more lies and confusion.
Can you back this accusation up?

[crimethink]

Ohhh looky there!
Another arm chair mouth suggesting something he cannot prove because he doesnt for sure know.....just spewing forth what appears to be more lies and confusion.
Can you back this accusation up?

I suggest we send another mission to the Moon. You, 7th trump, can be the command asstronaut.

[osoab]

I suggest we send another mission to the Moon. You, 7th trump, can be the command asstronaut.

I second your nomination.

[Dogman]

Dammed right we did on the hairy edge of failure..The moon shot gifted us all with the tech

anyone born and did live those times and the changes in many things ,electronics as an example. The integrated circuit did not exist before.

Hell, that crap booted industry which was changed everything compared to before..

Small example is wd-40 plus more things I can count. That beside hard examples, but the huge one was in electronics which your cell phone electronics would be so small today.

The moon shot was duel one military and the other one was stick a sharp pointy into the ussr eye.

Sadly bleed down of tech is from military to civilian.

War and assorted crap in human history has been a double edged sword, tech that cuts both ways.

[PatColo]

Dammed right we did on the hairy edge of failure..The moon shot gifted us all with the tech

Didn't the "Tang" orange flavored drink tout that the astronauts drank it? Or am I thinking of "Ovaltine" ?

And Velcro too? Revolutionized society, these did! :)

[osoab]

Dammed right we did on the hairy edge of failure..The moon shot gifted us all with the tech

anyone born and did live those times and the changes in many things ,electronics as an example. The integrated circuit did not exist before.

Hell, that crap booted industry which was changed everything compared to before..

Small example is wd-40 plus more things I can count. That beside hard examples, but the huge one was in electronics which your cell phone electronics would be so small today.

The moon shot was duel one military and the other one was stick a sharp pointy into the ussr eye.

Sadly bleed down of tech is from military to civilian.

War and assorted crap in human history has been a double edged sword, tech that cuts both ways.

We did not go to the moon. All of the innovations you listed could easily be attributed to DoD research and passed off as NASA. Come to think of it NASA is DoD.

[Dogman]

Didn't the "Tang" orange flavored drink tout that the astronauts drank it? Or am I thinking of "Ovaltine" ?

And Velcro too? Revolutionized society, these did! :) yep tang was a small spinoff. ovaltine I think was older..of the top of my head..without googling it.

[Dogman]

We did not go to the moon. All of the innovations you listed could easily be attributed to DoD research and passed off as NASA. Come to think of it NASA is DoD. Believe what you wish.. I know be we did it.

But you are also right NASA is DOD, especially back when. Were the same thing.

The original space race was driven mostly by cold war politics. Which boiled down to my dick was bigger than yours. as far as tech and capability's went.

The soviets were looking back were just a step behind, but had massive ability's that also led to the ussr collapsing in the long run.

God I hate saying it this way, but we trumped them (using the trump name , I want to gag)

Not a dam thing today we do in space that does not have a military advantage or coat, lightly camouflaged.

The us won the space race , mostly because of free thinkers that were mobile vs locked down central control.

Which is a bald ass very short look and saying overview.

Minds, I post but miss most, most is sorta a short hand of what I really think..voice or face to fac really works..

how about a vocal chat room, to cuss and discuss. ?

or all can hide, and show their asss .

Can do video also.. Then we can see whos viewpoint holds water..

[woodman]

One thing i've noticed when it comes to "discussions" about the moon landing is that plebs always say that "If we didn't go to the moon then the soviets would have exposed us blablabla" nonsense. As if there really was animosity between Soviet and the West. Also as if the Soviet press wasn't controlled by jews and that it somehow had the ability to penetrate the western jew controlled press. Holy crap people are stupid. And always that personal twist to it.. "I was 21 at the time blabla".

Excellent post. I agree 100%

[crimethink]

Dammed right we did on the hairy edge of failure..The moon shot gifted us all with the tech

anyone born and did live those times and the changes in many things ,electronics as an example. The integrated circuit did not exist before.

Hell, that crap booted industry which was changed everything compared to before..

Small example is wd-40 plus more things I can count. That beside hard examples, but the huge one was in electronics which your cell phone electronics would be so small today.

The moon shot was duel one military and the other one was stick a sharp pointy into the ussr eye.

Sadly bleed down of tech is from military to civilian.

War and assorted crap in human history has been a double edged sword, tech that cuts both ways.

The urban legend about the NASA space pen project is an illustration, whether true or not, of how we got all that tech. NASA spent a large sum on developing a writing instrument that could write upside down, in extreme temperatures, and on most surfaces. The Soviet Space Agency equipped their cosmonauts with a 5 cent pencil.

Huge sums of taxpayer funds were spent on Apollo. It is indisputable that we have received great derivative benefits from that research.

However, the fact that money was spent, and we now have Velcro and Plantronics headsets and polyurethane foam and so many other "high-tech" items is, in no way, proof of landing any man on the Moon. Did NASA land a machine on the Moon? Probably. Was there an astronaut inside? Likely not, since the technical ability to do so does not exist now, and definitely did not exist then.

[Dogman]

The urban legend about the NASA space pen project is an illustration, whether true or not, of how we got all that tech. NASA spent a large sum on developing a writing instrument that could write upside down, in extreme temperatures, and on most surfaces. The Soviet Space Agency equipped their cosmonauts with a 5 cent pencil.

Huge sums of taxpayer funds were spent on Apollo. It is indisputable that we have received great derivative benefits from that research.

However, the fact that money was spent, and we now have Velcro and Plantronics headsets and polyurethane foam and so many other "high-tech" items is, in no way, proof of landing any man on the Moon. Did NASA land a machine on the Moon? Probably. Was there an astronaut inside? Likely not, since the technical ability to do so does not exist now, and definitely did not exist then.Yep, we wasted a bunch of bucks, we made a pen and they used pencils.

Fred, go away....how many time have you plagiarized me and go banned here that you have done to others,>?

Fred=something we all walk on despite the smell.

[crimethink]

Fred, go away....how many time have you plagiarized me and go banned here that you have done to others,>?

Bottle Boy, you must be hitting the sauce tonight. "Plagiarized" you? Why would I want to copy your half-assed, misspelled, grammatically-incorrect spew?

And no, I'm going nowhere. :)

[Dogman]

Bottle Boy, you must be hitting the sauce tonight. "Plagiarized" you? Why would I want to copy your half-assed, misspelled, grammatically-incorrect spew?

And no, I'm going nowhere. :) I think you did, neverless, you are a sad punk locked intio your very small world view.

Maybe I have you wrong, ?

In the early days on this forum , 2010 were you not ether a mod or sump thing. that got banned because of plageration.

Neverthe less you are not worth even sweat of any good mans balls in a heat wave.

[Cebu_4_2]

Balls and cock sucking get brought up a lot here. Is this place changing?

[Glass]

Balls and cock sucking get brought up a lot here. Is this place changing?

A lot of trucker CB talk if you ax me. That 70 year old who climbed into a truck like a boss talked like that. Grabbed that rig by the pussy and climbed aboard. Or something like that. I'm just trying to fit in.

[Dogman]

cuddle up with your dad. Stinky..

Bet you have a wok well used in your house.

;D

Hell I have one, and love it..

[midnight rambler]

...I know be we did it. (sic)

And you *know* this is true...because...you saw it on teevee?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwhxeaVfk3s

[Norweger]

https://youtu.be/XlGis35Epvs?t=180

[Dogman]

And you *know* this is true...because...you saw it on teevee?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwhxeaVfk3s you wish, close family at the time ,

komrad find another tree to worry..

It happened, and worked on a wish and prayers.

I was there watching a Saturn 5 launch, in the day , I can say for and to the idiots here, many things that are denied are faults and are or were real been there and done that.

boules down to money honey. fighting a war, that was not called that, I was personally involved doing my crap..

We did do it to the moon, to the surprise of they involved,

wishes and prayers worked .

spin offs ..look at the tech we use now. traceable now to then.

Luddite.

Edit: Kennedy getting his head blown off ,I remember to my states shame, I was in the 6th grade when it happened. and the dam thing my teacher at the time was named kennedy.

were you even though of ??

I think not, komrad..

Punk

[midnight rambler]

Oh, so your source is mass hysteria huh? Got it.

[PatColo]

A lot of trucker CB talk if you ax me. That 70 year old who climbed into a truck like a boss talked like that. Grabbed that rig by the pussy and climbed aboard. Or something like that. I'm just trying to fit in.

same with Adam here,

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ivVOOvK4SDg/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=6CP2RJcYQEylUa_0chBnXCqW4_I6:08
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivVOOvK4SDg) Man Show - Trucking With Lionel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivVOOvK4SDg)
Adam's The Man Show (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB9OClSbYUaHaLeG8QAlkUQ)


1 year ago
2,824 views

[Dogman]

Gay glasses guy has showed up and ? proves white is black, and the thread is going into the rabbit hole.

Again

[crimethink]

In the early days on this forum , 2010 were you not ether a mod or sump thing. that got banned because of plageration.


I was banned for publicly posting the evidence that the con man then in charge of the technical aspects of this forum had banned and insulted my wife without bothering to check the facts (in part, because we, what a surprise, shared an IP address).

But a drunk like yourself would have problems remembering the facts.





Neverthe less you are not worth even sweat of any good mans balls in a heat wave.

Good to know I'm definitely worth much more than the sweat off your balls then. :D

[crimethink]

https://youtu.be/XlGis35Epvs?t=180

Zero-emissions rocket motor propelling them to escape velocity? LOL

[Horn]

They did shoot one over there recently that rang the moon like a bell.

Didn't anyone hear it, i did?

[Cebu_4_2]

https://youtu.be/XlGis35Epvs?t=180


Who was manning the camera on the moon/

[Norweger]

Who was manning the camera on the moon/

Some random dude in Houston timed it perfectly with the delay and they used wifi or something... at least that is what the moonhuggers say. I like the rainbow sparkle effect.

[Cebu_4_2]

Wifi LOL

[Santa]

Maybe they had a 1-hour photo lab on the moon with deluxe courier service back to earth.

[crimethink]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKbwdTCL8rA

One of the must-see movies.

[Glass]

yes they really went to the moon
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0a/20/61/0a206147e52e6265747baaaab3426fee.jpg

[Glass]

Of course the first space program was Mercury
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Mercury-patch-info.png/270px-Mercury-patch-info.png

7 Men from out of space
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f8/f8/00/f8f800cfb187676e126188f8c48837db.jpg

Then of course there was Gemini
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/GeminiPatch.png/200px-GeminiPatch.png
Ruled of course by Mercury.

[Norweger]

Again with the Soviet bs.

Heavily upvoted comment from random youtube video:

"Okay, just for second: If the moon landing was a set-up by the US government ... just how could they get the soviets to play along? In the middle of the cold war, this would have been such a major propaganda success, the USA would have lost all credibility, in the eyes of the entire planet."

[cheka.]

Again with the Soviet bs.

Heavily upvoted comment from random youtube video:

"Okay, just for second: If the moon landing was a set-up by the US government ... just how could they get the soviets to play along? In the middle of the cold war, this would have been such a major propaganda success, the USA would have lost all credibility, in the eyes of the entire planet."

somebody needs to do some homework

[Joshua01]

I doubt it very seriously. Like everything else we've been told, take a step back and ask yourself if you believe in your heart of hearts we were able to do all that back then with the technology available and knowing all the lies we KNOW we have been told over the years by our government
yes they really went to the moon
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0a/20/61/0a206147e52e6265747baaaab3426fee.jpg

[Neuro]

Ohhh looky there!
Another arm chair mouth suggesting something he cannot prove because he doesnt for sure know.....just spewing forth what appears to be more lies and confusion.
Can you back this accusation up?

Sure. It is called the Great Grain Robbery...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_grain_robbery

Probably the main reason why your mom didn't feed you when you were a baby, and you ended up brain damaged!

[7th trump]

Sure. It is called the Great Grain Robbery...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_grain_robbery

Probably the main reason why your mom didn't feed you when you were a baby, and you ended up brain damaged!

Again you stupid fuck up.
Show any evidence that this so called grain robbery was to keep the soviets mouth shut.
You pathetic attempt just proves you're just like 99.99999% of the retarded population.

You suggest the idea...now prove it is what you say it is....other wise you're nothing but another worthless rumor mongering asshole the world, and especially this site, has way too many of.

Basically quite being a "Sally said" puss!



BTW, I probably ate back then better than you.
Fresh farm raised chickens, ducks, beef, goose and turkeys...and deer, three large gardens and 20 plus fruit trees, vines and bushes.
So go fuck yourself asshole!

[Neuro]

Again you stupid fuck up.
Show any evidence that this so called grain robbery was to keep the soviets mouth shut.
You pathetic attempt just proves you're just like 99.99999% of the retarded population.

You suggest the idea...now prove it is what you say it is....other wise you're nothing but another worthless rumor mongering asshole the world, and especially this site, has way too many of.

Basically quite being a "Sally said" puss!



BTW, I probably ate back then better than you.
Fresh farm raised chickens, ducks, beef, goose and turkeys...and deer, three large gardens and 20 plus fruit trees, vines and bushes.
So go fuck yourself asshole!

Still you are being brain damaged. :)

The height of the Cold War fighting the war in Vietnam and US decides to help out "Great Satan" Soviet Union with 12 million tons of wheat, without which Soviet Union would have starvation, and you want me to find the official documents proving the hook USSR had on USA? Do you really think such a document exist?

This USAID to USSR costed the American people plenty, for what reason? What could possibly Soviet Union have on United States, for them to get away with this extortion?

You really can't connect dots at all can you feeble brained moronic fool?

Did you ever consider why your height (5'7") is way less than the European male average? You were starved as a kid so the Soviets could eat, and it made you brain damaged as well.

[crimethink]

The height of the Cold War fighting the war in Vietnam and US decides to help out "Great Satan" Soviet Union with 12 million tons of wheat, without which Soviet Union would have starvation, and you want me to find the official documents proving the hook USSR had on USA? Do you really think such a document exist?

This USAID to USSR costed the American people plenty, for what reason? What could possibly Soviet Union have on United States, for them to get away with this extortion?

You really can't connect dots at all can you feeble brained moronic fool?

Antony Sutton demolished the "USA and USSR were 'enemies'" nonsense in his magnum opus, Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development, published by the Hoover Institution Press.

https://archive.org/details/Sutton--Western-Technology-1917-1930

https://archive.org/details/Sutton--Western-Technology-1930-1945

https://archive.org/details/Sutton--Western-Technology-1945-1965

He proved, with original documents - not speculation or conjecture - that the same entities that own and operate the United States owned and operated the USSR, namely, (((banksters))).

I read this three-volume set in my teens, and it was the end of the delusion about "the Cold War" I was a slave to, taught to me by the Talmudvision and publik skool.

It explains why the USSR was allowed to win World War II, and why high-technology transfer from the USA, Germany, and other "free countries" continued from the founding of the USSR right into Vietnam. The "rumors" that some GIs came back from Vietnam with, that US ordnance was being used on them by the NVA, not captured, but supplied to them new via Russia, were true.

The wheat was actually a small piece of the "inexplicable anomalies."

Why the Bolshevists in Moscow didn't "expose" the Apollo mythology is no mystery.

[Glass]

I doubt it very seriously. Like everything else we've been told, take a step back and ask yourself if you believe in your heart of hearts we were able to do all that back then with the technology available and knowing all the lies we KNOW we have been told over the years by our government

I think the photo illustrates just how close they got. I marvel at how detailed that model is and how much time someone must has spent recreating it on that model. And how easy it would be to do some close ups..... and very few would be the wiser.

[Joshua01]

That makes the most sense to me. All this alien and UFO crap is all fantasy too supported by both the US a Russian governments. There are no aliens, there are no UFO's (other than all the man made ones we've been hearing about since the 50's). Government feeds up a steady diet of bullshit on a daily basis!
Antony Sutton demolished the "USA and USSR were 'enemies'" nonsense in his magnum opus, Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development, published by the Hoover Institution Press.

https://archive.org/details/Sutton--Western-Technology-1917-1930

https://archive.org/details/Sutton--Western-Technology-1930-1945

https://archive.org/details/Sutton--Western-Technology-1945-1965

He proved, with original documents - not speculation or conjecture - that the same entities that own and operate the United States owned and operated the USSR, namely, (((banksters))).

I read this three-volume set in my teens, and it was the end of the delusion about "the Cold War" I was a slave to, taught to me by the Talmudvision and publik skool.

It explains why the USSR was allowed to win World War II, and why high-technology transfer from the USA, Germany, and other "free countries" continued from the founding of the USSR right into Vietnam. The "rumors" that some GIs came back from Vietnam with, that US ordnance was being used on them by the NVA, not captured, but supplied to them new via Russia, were true.

The wheat was actually a small piece of the "inexplicable anomalies."

Why the Bolshevists in Moscow didn't "expose" the Apollo mythology is no mystery.

[7th trump]

Antony Sutton demolished the "USA and USSR were 'enemies'" nonsense in his magnum opus, Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development, published by the Hoover Institution Press.

https://archive.org/details/Sutton--Western-Technology-1917-1930

https://archive.org/details/Sutton--Western-Technology-1930-1945

https://archive.org/details/Sutton--Western-Technology-1945-1965

He proved, with original documents - not speculation or conjecture - that the same entities that own and operate the United States owned and operated the USSR, namely, (((banksters))).

I read this three-volume set in my teens, and it was the end of the delusion about "the Cold War" I was a slave to, taught to me by the Talmudvision and publik skool.

It explains why the USSR was allowed to win World War II, and why high-technology transfer from the USA, Germany, and other "free countries" continued from the founding of the USSR right into Vietnam. The "rumors" that some GIs came back from Vietnam with, that US ordnance was being used on them by the NVA, not captured, but supplied to them new via Russia, were true.

The wheat was actually a small piece of the "inexplicable anomalies."

Why the Bolshevists in Moscow didn't "expose" the Apollo mythology is no mystery.

Yeah what ever!
Lemmings is all I see here.
Must be right because dumbthink post links to Sutton books.....LMAO!
Question is......where did this guy Sutton get his info? Has any of it been verified?
How creditable are Suttons sources?
Or....have all you been led down a path because egotistical dumbthink posts a few links?

Can you think and decide on your own?
Or are you just a bunch of lemmings eager to follow anything that crosses your path?

[7th trump]

Still you are being brain damaged. :)

The height of the Cold War fighting the war in Vietnam and US decides to help out "Great Satan" Soviet Union with 12 million tons of wheat, without which Soviet Union would have starvation, and you want me to find the official documents proving the hook USSR had on USA? Do you really think such a document exist?

This USAID to USSR costed the American people plenty, for what reason? What could possibly Soviet Union have on United States, for them to get away with this extortion?

You really can't connect dots at all can you feeble brained moronic fool?

Did you ever consider why your height (5'7") is way less than the European male average? You were starved as a kid so the Soviets could eat, and it made you brain damaged as well.Again you demonstrate nothing, but attempting to reinforce you've done nothing wrong by telling a lie.
I call it a lie because none of what you say has been verified or confirmed....and that doesnt make your babble truthful or even trustworthy.
You're dishonest, untrustworthy and spread lies.

Have I ever told you that your Creator absolutely hates what you do?
He hates rumors and looks upon those that do spread lies with discontent.

[crimethink]

Yeah what ever!
Lemmings is all I see here.
Must be right because dumbthink post links to Sutton books.....LMAO!
Question is......where did this guy Sutton get his info? Has any of it been verified?
How creditable are Suttons sources?
Or....have all you been led down a path because egotistical dumbthink posts a few links?

Can you think and decide on your own?
Or are you just a bunch of lemmings eager to follow anything that crosses your path?

Time for you to just shut the fuck up, retard.

Unlike you, Sutton was a serious & sincere researcher who sourced primary materials. He didn't need to get his "truth" from a televangelist, like you do. Since you've never actually been in a real university as a scholar, I guess I can't expect you to understand the difference.

Sutton's sources are available for anyone who wishes to investigate them. And his publisher, Hoover Institution Press, was regarded as a premiere patriotic organization for decades.

Why your spam is allowed to be here is a mystery to me. Spam is not freedom of expression.

[7th trump]

Time for you to just shut the fuck up, retard.

Unlike you, Sutton was a serious & sincere researcher who sourced primary materials. He didn't need to get his "truth" from a televangelist, like you do. Since you've never actually been in a real university as a scholar, I guess I can't expect you to understand the difference.

Sutton's sources are available for anyone who wishes to investigate them. And his publisher, Hoover Institution Press, was regarded as a premiere patriotic organization for decades.

Why your spam is allowed to be here is a mystery to me. Spam is not freedom of expression.Hoover institute huh?
I'm sure it too has been targeted and infiltrated like all the other higher institutes.

LMAO fool.
I question Neuro about his "unconfirmed opinion" (a lie when you get right down to it) and you post Sutton I guess in his defense..as if thats is some kind of "official" confirmation....because you say so....LMAO!
I question Sutton's sources and why you blindly agree with him.......and you deemed it spam....rolling my eyes!
Guess what?
You're still a nobody posting shit you dont know for sure that actually has anything to do with the sale of crops to the soviets.
100% pure speculation on your part....100%!
Not any truth in it at all.......100% rumors
Niether one of you fucks are anything to anyone or anything....and what has no logic at all is why you think you are something to somebody.

Figure it out yet?
I'm showing the forum you're no different than the little man behind the curtains in the green suit pulling the ropes in the Wizard of OZ.
You're posting is just as much "FAKE NEWS" as whats aired on the evening news.

[Neuro]

Again you demonstrate nothing, but attempting to reinforce you've done nothing wrong by telling a lie.
I call it a lie because none of what you say has been verified or confirmed....and that doesnt make your babble truthful or even trustworthy.
You're dishonest, untrustworthy and spread lies.

Have I ever told you that your Creator absolutely hates what you do?
He hates rumors and looks upon those that do spread lies with discontent.
Why did US sell USSR 12 million tons of wheat at very low subsidized prices at the height of Cold War in 1972 to the detriment of its own population?

This is a fact. And you are completely unable to deal with it. You are an imbecile and an idiot.

[vacuum]

Sure. It is called the Great Grain Robbery...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_grain_robbery

Probably the main reason why your mom didn't feed you when you were a baby, and you ended up brain damaged!


Grain prices soon reached 125-year highs in Chicago. In a 10-month span, soybeans went from $3.31 to $12.90 a bushel. Food prices around the world rose 50% in 1973.

I wonder if people in poor countries starved at the time, with the cost of food through the room.

[woodman]

Antony Sutton demolished the "USA and USSR were 'enemies'" nonsense in his magnum opus, Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development, published by the Hoover Institution Press.

https://archive.org/details/Sutton--Western-Technology-1917-1930

https://archive.org/details/Sutton--Western-Technology-1930-1945

https://archive.org/details/Sutton--Western-Technology-1945-1965

He proved, with original documents - not speculation or conjecture - that the same entities that own and operate the United States owned and operated the USSR, namely, (((banksters))).

I read this three-volume set in my teens, and it was the end of the delusion about "the Cold War" I was a slave to, taught to me by the Talmudvision and publik skool.

It explains why the USSR was allowed to win World War II, and why high-technology transfer from the USA, Germany, and other "free countries" continued from the founding of the USSR right into Vietnam. The "rumors" that some GIs came back from Vietnam with, that US ordnance was being used on them by the NVA, not captured, but supplied to them new via Russia, were true.

The wheat was actually a small piece of the "inexplicable anomalies."

Why the Bolshevists in Moscow didn't "expose" the Apollo mythology is no mystery.

The first link has an extremely interesting review with other fascinating links within. I am halfway through a book I downloaded from the site: (I Was a Slave in Russia). It is by a fellow Detroiter who got trapped within Germany and taken into the Russian prison system as did other US soldiers. The USSR was one of the most viscious systems of control ever undertaken and it is coming here.

[7th trump]

Why did US sell USSR 12 million tons of wheat at very low subsidized prices at the height of Cold War in 1972 to the detriment of its own population?

This is a fact. And you are completely unable to deal with it. You are an imbecile and an idiot.

In 1972 I was 4 years old and now in 2017 I could care less. I really dont know why the US sold 12 million tons of wheat to the USSR.
And the fact is neither do you.
But the problem with your "FAKE NEWS" is you cant go around saying it was hush money to keep the soviets from exposing the US space program.
Heck you dont even know for sure the US didnt go to the moon which is itself more FAKE NEWS.

How about this idea.
Stop being an idiotic imbecile with all your speculative FAKE NEWS and just be an unbiased professional about it....its time to start being honest with yourselves.
If not, I can award you a PALANI trophy.
Its a naked idiot trotting gleefully with an unlit torch in his hand while wearing a Greek grrel.

[7th trump]

The first link has an extremely interesting review with other fascinating links within. I am halfway through a book I downloaded from the site: (I Was a Slave in Russia). It is by a fellow Detroiter who got trapped within Germany and taken into the Russian prison system as did other US soldiers. The USSR was one of the most viscious systems of control ever undertaken and it is coming here.But if you listen to the pro-russian idiots on GSUS they say Putin has changed russia by kicking out the jews. No more Gulags and the jews dont control russia anymore....its all peachy in russia. Prime rose paths everywhere.
So why are you concerned that this "viscious system of control" is coming to America?

Not gonna happen in America.
It was new york jews that over thrown the Czar Nickolas and implemented communism.

[7th trump]

This is more like it instead of this hush money "FAKE NEWS" spread by a few talented and ingenious conspiracy nutcase idiots on this forum.
Bravo to Neuro and dumbthink...they have achieved the rank of "PALANI". All three receive a dunce cap and get to eat their lunch at the same table.
Lets hope all three dont pick their noses in unison.

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1973/11/16/america-gets-the-shaft-pthe-1972/

[Jerrylynnb]

To 7th trump: What is a "Greek grrel"? (Unknown to "https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/")...

But that is a nifty saying about a "naked idiot", if I only knew what a "Greek Grrel" was.

As to the "men on the moon", lets see a recent high rez photo of the sites where those flag poles are supposed to be sticking up and what's left of their flags. Waiting...

[7th trump]

To 7th trump: What is a "Greek grrel"? (Unknown to "https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/")...

But that is a nifty saying about a "naked idiot", if I only knew what a "Greek Grrel" was.

As to the "men on the moon", lets see a recent high rez photo of the sites where those flag poles are supposed to be sticking up and what's left of their flags. Waiting...

The grrel is the leaf crown the greeks had on their heads. At least thats what came up on a search on my PC.
I assumed it is a greek symbol of intelligence.

They're naked.
Their flame is out and
They think they are intelligent

[Neuro]

This is more like it instead of this hush money "FAKE NEWS" spread by a few talented and ingenious conspiracy nutcase idiots on this forum.
Bravo to Neuro and dumbthink...they have achieved the rank of "PALANI". All three receive a dunce cap and get to eat their lunch at the same table.
Lets hope all three dont pick their noses in unison.

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1973/11/16/america-gets-the-shaft-pthe-1972/

LOL, the assumption is that Henry Kissinger is stupid, and they had no idea how bad the situation was in Soviet Union when the deal was made. Clearly the article is a coverup of the reason for the deal.

At least you did some research, but you still can't think! ;D

[midnight rambler]

Still you are being brain damaged. :)

Did you ever consider why your height (5'7") is way less than the European male average?


So the card-carrying Communist dung beetle is not only retarded he also suffers from short man syndrome? Well that explains a lot!

[7th trump]

LOL, the assumption is that Henry Kissinger is stupid, and they had no idea how bad the situation was in Soviet Union when the deal was made. Clearly the article is a coverup of the reason for the deal.

At least you did some research, but you still can't think! ;D

No matter what you say to save your ass from being labeled a fool you do not have any proof the deal was to shut the soviets up from exposing the US space agency.
Keep digging your sorry ass into the ground.
Your ego is so huge you cannot deal with it.

[Neuro]

No matter what you say to save your ass from being labeled a fool you do not have any proof the deal was to shut the soviets up from exposing the US space agency.
Keep digging your sorry ass into the ground.
Your ego is so huge you cannot deal with it.

Being labeled a fool by you is one of the greatest compliments on this forum.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c9/40/1c/c9401c53b23270a0c97871f4434eee9e.jpg
You suffer from cranio-rectal inversion syndrome, it seems chronic.

[7th trump]

Being labeled a fool by you is one of the greatest compliments on this forum.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c9/40/1c/c9401c53b23270a0c97871f4434eee9e.jpg
You suffer from cranio-rectal inversion syndrome, it seems chronic.Still having are hard time with me calling your silly ass out for soliciting FAKE NEWS .
Still waiting for you to procure any evidence that suggests your FAKE NEWS is true.
You're a failure!

[woodman]

But if you listen to the pro-russian idiots on GSUS they say Putin has changed russia by kicking out the jews. No more Gulags and the jews dont control russia anymore....its all peachy in russia. Prime rose paths everywhere.
So why are you concerned that this "viscious system of control" is coming to America?

Not gonna happen in America.
It was new york jews that over thrown the Czar Nickolas and implemented communism.

The 'New York' Jews are and were in league with all the other Jews who are intent on implementing a system of control even more savage than what they did in the USSR. As far as Putin and whether or not the Jews control Russia, I would say that Putin is walking a thin line. The Jews still certainly hold massive influence there and Putin himself may be a tool. He is proving himself to have some redeeming qualities, such as trying to preserve Christianity and keep the muslims in the middle east. He may 'turn dog' in the long run though. Russia has long had it's own problems with the moslem hordes.

Human beings and individual identity do not exist to these monsters. People are merely animals without souls as far as they are concerned. These people are the animals who are missing their souls. They happen to control the worlds monetary systems (banking) and this does not bode well for western civilization or any of us who have the capacity to think. The thinkers will be wiped out first. It is always so.

I believe you are arguing simply to amuse yourself, which is a poor substitute for real debate. Do you actually deny that the Jews have been and are, the force of chaos and terror behind world events? Do you really not believe that Zionism controls world events? Do you deny that most world leaders and all of consequence are put in place by international Jewry for the purpose of subverting western civilization and destroying the white race? Have you investigated any of the links that are posted here? How about the Coudenhove, Kalergi plan?

I suggest you investigate and learn. You seem rather closed-minded. I don't believe you are stupid, I just think you refuse to see reality.

[7th trump]

The 'New York' Jews are and were in league with all the other Jews who are intent on implementing a system of control even more savage than what they did in the USSR. As far as Putin and whether or not the Jews control Russia, I would say that Putin is walking a thin line. The Jews still certainly hold massive influence there and Putin himself may be a tool. He is proving himself to have some redeeming qualities, such as trying to preserve Christianity and keep the muslims in the middle east. He may 'turn dog' in the long run though. Russia has long had it's own problems with the moslem hordes.

Human beings and individual identity do not exist to these monsters. People are merely animals without souls as far as they are concerned. These people are the animals who are missing their souls. They happen to control the worlds monetary systems (banking) and this does not bode well for western civilization or any of us who have the capacity to think. The thinkers will be wiped out first. It is always so.

I believe you are arguing simply to amuse yourself, which is a poor substitute for real debate. Do you actually deny that the Jews have been and are, the force of chaos and terror behind world events? Do you really not believe that Zionism controls world events? Do you deny that most world leaders and all of consequence are put in place by international Jewry for the purpose of subverting western civilization and destroying the white race? Have you investigated any of the links that are posted here? How about the Coudenhove, Kalergi plan?

I suggest you investigate and learn. You seem rather closed-minded. I don't believe you are stupid, I just think you refuse to see reality.What happened in russia is not gonna happen in America.
The jews are not out to destroy the race that makes them powerful...plain and simple. Show me one white country destroyed by the jews that no longer exists.
Russia still exists after peak control of jews.
Sure you can say Rome, Greece and a few others. Maybe those particular civilizations but white man hasnt gone anywhere. Still more caucasians today than there ever was in the past. 100's of millions more than the next race.
They need the white race to hide in plain sight. They may heavily influence (and at a very high cost), but they certainly do not control.
Its too hard to control in todays info tech world. They do eventually fail. The serpent gets a mortal blow...dont forget that.
Close minded? Not at all. Far far ahead of you!
It seems you're closed minded focusing on what "man" tells you....snap out of it!

[osoab]

Are you really 5'-7?

[Jerrylynnb]

I remember when that wheat deal with Russia went through - my father-in-law was a life-long farmer and he was mighty happy when they announced it. Farmers are always keen on the world-wide market for their grains, and, when something like that happens, they gain some assurance that they will get their price and not be held to any government quota's or set-asides. Even though he was mostly cotton, he also grew substantial acres of grain and he paid great attention to early morning radio where they announced farm commodity prices (I mean REALLY EARLY MORNING, like 5:00 am).

Neither he nor I ever dreamed of any ulterior motive for that deal, only that it was good news (for farmers). I just assumed someone in the agricultural department had bargained for and struck a good deal to expand US markets by so much. Farmers have an outlook that is very close to the ground.

As for as why the Soviets said nothing, even though they didn't bother to meddle with any "man-on-the-moon" business themselves, they really had no reason to pop the bubble of so many amazed americans (like me) watching it on TV. They also knew who killed JFK, and why Oswald was killed, but they said nothing. Why would they? They had gotten their kick start back in 1920's with money from american jews, so, why bite the hand that fed them?

And their GOLEM would sooner or later reach his collapse and they were jockeying amongst their selfish selves to open up the carcass (mother Russia) and go on a feeding frenzy (that would be under the accommodating and drunkard Yeltsin).

I got no problem with figuring out why Russia decided to let we gullible americans trot gleefully but naked with our torch unlit and sporting our greek grrels (credit to 7thtrump, OK?).

Why tell a fool he's a fool when he seems so happy about it?

[Jewboo]

Show me one country destroyed by the jews that no longer exists.



http://www.thedailystar.net/upload/gallery/image/arts/landgrab.jpg

[Cebu_4_2]

http://notmytribe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/palestine-map-one-state-solution.jpg


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[7th trump]

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I think that is his point.
No countries have been destroyed and the white man is still here. More now than ever before.

[singular_me]

:)

China Reaches the Moon Snapping Incredible, Never-Before-Seen High-Definition Images
5/23/2017
For the first time ever, you can take a peek at the lunar surface like never before thanks to the sophisticated cameras located onboard the Chang’e 3, one of China’s most advanced lunar landers.

.................. The images are beyond fascinating and have helped scientists around the world, to understand the complex and mysterious geology of the lunar surface, even revealing a completely new moon rock, undiscovered by previous mission of the Soviet Union and United States.

Two years after touching down on the lunar surface, the instruments onboard the lander remain functional.

“China is trying to reach the top tier and show that they’re a major space power,” says Kevin Pollpeter, a Defense Group, Inc. analyst affiliated with the University of California San Diego. “They’re also contributing real knowledge about the moon that we haven’t been able to get before.”

But China isn't stopping there and it seems they have great plans for the moon, reveling possible manned moon mission in the near future, expanding the lunar exploration like never before.

While the CNSA website is difficult to navigate - not to mention entirely in Chinese - the US Planetary Society has reposted the images from both Yutu and Chang'e 3 in accessible formats.

In 2017, China plans to send another lander to the moon which will even return numerous lunar samples back to Earth, exploring the moon in the process and helping researchers back on Earth understand the complex geology and origin of the moon, which has remained one of the most mysterious celestial objects in our solar system.
http://www.physics-astronomy.com/2017/05/china-reaches-moon-snapping-incredible.html#.WS1jVDq1tdj

more links
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=China+Reaches+the+Moon&t=ffnt&atb=v60-1&ia=web

[midnight rambler]

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Actually if one hits reply with quote one can see a map of Palestine.

[midnight rambler]

http://notmytribe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/palestine-map-one-state-solution.jpg

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[Jerrylynnb]

PROSECUTION WITNESS: Yessir, the chinese found the missing murder pistol, took it back home with them, but took multiple photos of it and let me see them - I have them here for the jury to see - here they are - see, this one is of the murder pistol and they took fingerprints and they match the defendant's, as shown in these photos here.

PROSECUTOR: That oughtta' settle any doubts any fools have about the defendant not ever having the pistol that killed the victim. SO THERE!

DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, now, if the Chinese say all this and they let us see these outstanding photos, then who amongst us dare question them? Right? Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I suggest any amongst you who fall for this gobbledeegook, excuse yourself from any jury duty! Why weren't some amongst us here invited to take part in this "investigation" (so-called) by the Chinese? Especially someone from the defense team? Huh? I mean, I can bring to you photos of the defendant attending church at the very time the murder was committed - will those photos be introduced as conclusive "evidence" of his innocence? I suggest the prosecutor grow up and treat us like adults who dare to question photos presented to us AFTER THE FACT!

[Neuro]

Still having are hard time with me calling your silly ass out for soliciting FAKE NEWS .
Still waiting for you to procure any evidence that suggests your FAKE NEWS is true.
You're a failure!

LOL, we are discussing the reasons for a historical fact, the GREAT GRAIN ROBBERY. Where the US dumped an enormous amount of grains which essentially prevented the certain collapse of Soviet Union, at the height of the Cold War, no-one here can present any evidence for what reason the US and Kissinger had for this course of action. Them knowing that the Apollo project was a hoax is a possible explanation, or perhaps the military industrial complex, really wanted to keep USSR as an adversary. Later they had to invent the war on terror with 9/11, to keep the war profiteering going.

Obviously I didn't write the above for you Gump, as you don't know the difference between spreading "fake news" and discussing possible hypotheses for historical facts. Once you figure out the difference in these basic definitions of terms you may progress from your state of abject stupidity. Here is a clue, "News" means that it is new. And even though your intellect still is at the 4 year old level, you were at in 1972, the concept isn't based on your mental ability prowess.

During the 7 years you have decided to plague this site to the detriment of any other member interested in discussing the reality of what has happened, you haven't demonstrated any willingness to improve yourself, your skull is as firmly lodged between your sacrum and your pubic symphysis, as it was the day you decided to join.

You really are stupid beyond redemption, and you are only kept on here because of the entertainment value you provide to the membership. However your stupidity is predictable, and rather tedious, even though the depth and breadth of it is astronomical.

[osoab]

<img src="http://notmytribe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/palestine-map-one-state-solution.jpg" alt="" border="0">


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Actually if one hits reply with quote one can see a map of Palestine.


I never could see the pic when trying the reply option.

http://notmytribe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/palestine-map-one-state-solution.jpg

[osoab]

But if you listen to the pro-russian idiots on GSUS they say Putin has changed russia by kicking out the jews. No more Gulags and the jews dont control russia anymore....its all peachy in russia. Prime rose paths everywhere.
So why are you concerned that this "viscious system of control" is coming to America?

Not gonna happen in America.
It was new york jews that over thrown the Czar Nickolas and implemented communism.

Of course jews control Russia. (((They))) have the central bank.

[Glass]

Interesting how the RowWay (rover) is called "rabbit" thinking back the 62 Pound bunny held hostage for 33 hours.

Won't be long for the internet to dissect those images and highlight any anomalies. Things like the horizon which looks odd, as if someone has gone along that line and cut it out.

The "river bed" which just looks like a dried up riverbed on earth.

Did their lander get any dirt on it or was it spotless too after firing retro rockets.

And yes 4 years seems like a long time to release images and the explanation for that was unintelligible gibberish.

And then there is this classic:

exploring the moon in the process and helping researchers back on Earth understand the complex geology and origin of the moon, which has remained one of the most mysterious celestial objects in our solar system.

[7th trump]

I never could see the pic when trying the reply option.

http://notmytribe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/palestine-map-one-state-solution.jpg

Jewboo is fucking with you people and I see some of you are gullible as a baby in diapers. Believe anything!

Palestine was never a country.
https://www.thoughtco.com/palestine-is-not-a-country-1435430

[7th trump]

Of course jews control Russia. (((They))) have the central bank.

Tell that to dumbthink and retard rambler.

[7th trump]

LOL, we are discussing the reasons for a historical fact, the GREAT GRAIN ROBBERY. Where the US dumped an enormous amount of grains which essentially prevented the certain collapse of Soviet Union, at the height of the Cold War, no-one here can present any evidence for what reason the US and Kissinger had for this course of action. Them knowing that the Apollo project was a hoax is a possible explanation, or perhaps the military industrial complex, really wanted to keep USSR as an adversary. Later they had to invent the war on terror with 9/11, to keep the war profiteering going.

Obviously I didn't write the above for you Gump, as you don't know the difference between spreading "fake news" and discussing possible hypotheses for historical facts. Once you figure out the difference in these basic definitions of terms you may progress from your state of abject stupidity. Here is a clue, "News" means that it is new. And even though your intellect still is at the 4 year old level, you were at in 1972, the concept isn't based on your mental ability prowess.

During the 7 years you have decided to plague this site to the detriment of any other member interested in discussing the reality of what has happened, you haven't demonstrated any willingness to improve yourself, your skull is as firmly lodged between your sacrum and your pubic symphysis, as it was the day you decided to join.

You really are stupid beyond redemption, and you are only kept on here because of the entertainment value you provide to the membership. However your stupidity is predictable, and rather tedious, even though the depth and breadth of it is astronomical.

No douche bag!
You're not getting off that easy.
You stated that the grain sale was to shut Russia up from telling the truth.......that was not hypotheses.
You are just saving your worthless ass now

[Neuro]

No douche bag!
You're not getting off that easy.
You stated that the grain sale was to shut Russia up from telling the truth.......that was not hypotheses
Yes? And? Without proof the statement is a hypothesis.

You really are stupid beyond redemption, and you are absolutely clueless as to how ridiculous your argumentation is and how easy it is to counter it... LOL

[Neuro]

Are you really 5'-7?

Mentally he is 3'5! ;D

[Jewboo]

Jewboo is fucking with you people and I see some of you are gullible as a baby in diapers. Believe anything! Palestine was never a country.



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:rolleyes:

[7th trump]

Mentally he is 3'5! ;D

Actually 5' 9", 177lbs

But I consider the source.
1. Married a muslim
2. Makes up FAKE NEWS
3. Tries covering up his FAKE NEWS

[midnight rambler]

Confirmed - suffers from a severe case of short man syndrome. I have suspected this forever.

[Neuro]

Confirmed - suffers from a severe case of short man syndrome. I have suspected this forever.

He is like those small dog breeds, that can't stop yapping... ;D

[7th trump]

He is like those small dog breeds, that can't stop yapping... ;D

Yes thank you!
You look at me like that because I annoy you.

Start acting like a respectable person instead of an egotistical jack ass.

[7th trump]

Confirmed - suffers from a severe case of short man syndrome. I have suspected this forever.

Just trying for a dig......pathetic!

[midnight rambler]

The card-carrying Communist dung beetle comes when he's called! He knows who and what he is. lol

[osoab]

Actually 5' 9", 177lbs




Measuring with boots on does not count.

[Neuro]

Measuring with boots on does not count.

http://restartyourstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Risers.jpg

[Norweger]

The great grain robbery was probably something they did to prevent total systemic collapse in the Soviet Union. Don't think they had to pay to keep anyone silent.

[PatColo]

The great grain robbery was probably something they did to prevent total systemic collapse in the Soviet Union. Don't think they had to pay to keep anyone silent.


just speculating: Putee-Poot was on record, ~2010 or so IIRC, said those who speculate 9/11 was an inside/conspiracy are... (something derogatory, forgot now...), and that "a conspiracy that large could never work... someone would talk!" :rolleyes: That old REAL conspiracy re-bunking slogan's been shot down so many times now... most recent being Pizza-Pedo-gate. Also it's believed in alt-truth circles that PuteeCo did that big apartment bombing outside Moscow 10-15 years ago; a Russian FF-- so it seems the Russians wish to reserve the right to conduct their own FFs as a tool; and the 2 joo controlled nations are willing to keep each others secrets when the truth would derail the whole game! So Russians keeping the Apollo missions secret, merely fit that rule. And hey maybe Sputnik was hoaxed?! :(??

[crimethink]

The great grain robbery was probably something they did to prevent total systemic collapse in the Soviet Union. Don't think they had to pay to keep anyone silent.

LOL

The wheat was intended to allow the USSR to plow the money into military spending to keep the "Cold War" ("Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia") going. Fungibility. Money to be spent on food could then be redirected, at US taxpayer - and wheat consumer - expense.

[Norweger]

LOL

The wheat was intended to allow the USSR to plow the money into military spending to keep the "Cold War" ("Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia") going. Fungibility. Money to be spent on food could then be redirected, at US taxpayer - and wheat consumer - expense.

Yeah that is more reasonable than some hush money about the farce that is the so called moon landing(s). Afterall they did go into Afghanistan not long after.

[osoab]

Yeah that is more reasonable than some hush money about the farce that is the so called moon landing(s). Afterall they did go into Afghanistan not long after.

Needed the poppies to curb appetites?

[7th trump]

LOL

The wheat was intended to allow the USSR to plow the money into military spending to keep the "Cold War" ("Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia") going. Fungibility. Money to be spent on food could then be redirected, at US taxpayer - and wheat consumer - expense.

There you go folks.
Conspiracy "FAKE NEWS" nutcases such as crimethink always, and I mean always, have plenty of fake news angles to pitch.
They know it all, but never can prove any of it.

All of it is his own dreamt up bullshit to feed is ego.
Ignore him and watch him implode from lack of attention.

[crimethink]

There you go folks.
Conspiracy "FAKE NEWS" nutcases such as crimethink always, and I mean always, have plenty of fake news angles to pitch.
They know it all, but never can prove any of it.

All of it is his own dreamt up bullshit to feed is ego.
Ignore him and watch him implode from lack of attention.

Nigger Boy, you yourself won't ignore me. LOL

The facts are plain to see, but you are Hell-bent on not seeing it.

[crimethink]

Yeah that is more reasonable than some hush money about the farce that is the so called moon landing(s). Afterall they did go into Afghanistan not long after.

I don't consider the wheat quid pro quo to shut up about Apollo, but it is a piece of evidence of why.

[7th trump]

Nigger Boy, you yourself won't ignore me. LOL

The facts are plain to see, but you are Hell-bent on not seeing it.
LoL!
Facts?
Those maybe facts, but are they relevant facts?

I'm not as cynical as you to make that kind of connection.....nor that stupid.


It's fun pointing out your bullshit and exposing your silly egotistical ass.
Biblical fool is all you are.

[vacuum]

Interesting article. The "moon rocks" have been tested by scientists and have been found to be identical to earth rocks.

So now they are adjusting their theories to explain this.

"In 2001, using advanced mass spectrometry techniques, Swiss researchers remeasured troctolite 76536 and 30 other lunar samples (http://science.sciencemag.org/content/294/5541/345). They found that its oxygen isotopes were indistinguishable from those on Earth. Geochemists have since studied titanium, tungsten, chromium, rubidium, potassium and other obscure metals from Earth and the moon, and everything looks pretty much the same.

This is bad news for Theia. If Mars is so obviously different from Earth, Theia — and thus, the moon — ought to be different, too. If they’re the same, that means the moon must have formed from melted bits of Earth. The Apollo rocks are then in direct conflict with what the physics insist must be true."

https://www.quantamagazine.org/what-made-the-moon-new-ideas-try-to-rescue-a-troubled-theory-20170802/

[Neuro]

Interesting article. The "moon rocks" have been tested by scientists and have been found to be identical to earth rocks.

So now they are adjusting their theories to explain this.

"In 2001, using advanced mass spectrometry techniques, Swiss researchers remeasured troctolite 76536 and 30 other lunar samples (http://science.sciencemag.org/content/294/5541/345). They found that its oxygen isotopes were indistinguishable from those on Earth. Geochemists have since studied titanium, tungsten, chromium, rubidium, potassium and other obscure metals from Earth and the moon, and everything looks pretty much the same.

This is bad news for Theia. If Mars is so obviously different from Earth, Theia — and thus, the moon — ought to be different, too. If they’re the same, that means the moon must have formed from melted bits of Earth. The Apollo rocks are then in direct conflict with what the physics insist must be true."

https://www.quantamagazine.org/what-made-the-moon-new-ideas-try-to-rescue-a-troubled-theory-20170802/

Occam's razor would suggest that the rocks are from earth not the moon. Instead they had to invent earth-moon was a molten bagel-theory before they separated into two. LOL

[PatColo]

richie allen show; guest is a brit, brings a little different perspective

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NjihzX5izHk/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLB86sd1LrE02dy424TAdHoDnpna4A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjihzX5izHk) 50:10
Marcus Allen "Nearly 50 Years On & I Have Seen No Hard Evidence That Man Has Set Foot On The Moon." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjihzX5izHk)

6,862 views
22 hours ago

[PatColo]

vlogger TradCatKnight,

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Xo_olbkJAUA/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEXCNACELwBSFryq4qpAwkIARUAAIhCGAE=&rs=AOn4CLDzAO24pv5eZVBtrESzqt6n2YHR9A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo_olbkJAUA) 52:08
Bart Sibrel, "Fake Moon Landing, Fake News & Freemasons" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo_olbkJAUA)

101 views
1 hour ago

[PatColo]

Sean/SGT Report with Bart, 44m: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Aw4Ngab9g


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Aw4Ngab9g

[ziero0]

Your entire world is created by your mind. If you believe a moon landing occurred then that becomes your religion ... your belief. If you believe Trump is president or that Obama ever was president then that is your religion.

Reality is associated with things you can touch, hear, smell, see or taste. The world is constructed of things other people attest to.

[monty]

Daily Mail Cinema expert claims it would have been IMPOSSIBLE to fake the Apollo 11 moon landing and debunks common conspiracy theories about the filming of the iconic missionhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7236293/amp/Expert-reveals-moon-landing-IMPOSSIBLE-fake.html?__twitter_impression=true


I call BS.

[old steel]

From what i have researched about the moon landing i am now of the opinion that they did go to the moon and when they landed and took a look around they realized the entire rim of the crater where they landed was populated with UFO's, so much so that they couldn't film or photograph without getting them in the picture.

This then forced them to set up and record everything in a studio to actually have film that was controlled on the event.

So they went to the moon but the photo's and film was all done at home in a controlled studio environment.

The actual reason they went was to look at the moon rocks for evidence of a Sun micro nova event and they found it in the rocks glazed over with shards of tiny impacts from outside impacting them.

Every 12,000 years give or take the Sun goes through this cycle and we are coming up on another event in the next 20 years give or take but that is just a guess, it could happen much sooner.

This is what wipes out most life every 12,000 years but it is a survivable event or we wouldn't be here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB_LTCwNSH8

[Cebu_4_2]

From what i have researched about the moon landing i am now of the opinion that they did go to the moon and when they landed and took a look around they realized the entire rim of the crater where they landed was populated with UFO's, so much so that they couldn't film or photograph without getting them in the picture.

This then forced them to set up and record everything in a studio to actually have film that was controlled on the event.

So they went to the moon but the photo's and film was all done at home in a controlled studio environment.

The actual reason they went was to look at the moon rocks for evidence of a Sun micro nova event and they found it in the rocks glazed over with shards of tiny impacts from outside impacting them.

Every 12,000 years give or take the Sun goes through this cycle and we are coming up on another event in the next 20 years give or take but that is just a guess, it could happen much sooner.

This is what wipes out most life every 12,000 years but it is a survivable event or we wouldn't be here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB_LTCwNSH8

So what are the other UFO's they hide?

[C.Martel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpuKu3F0BvY

[woodman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpuKu3F0BvY
So you watched this vid, over 3 1/2 hours long? No comment on it?

[osoab]

From what i have researched about the moon landing i am now of the opinion that they did go to the moon and when they landed and took a look around they realized the entire rim of the crater where they landed was populated with UFO's, so much so that they couldn't film or photograph without getting them in the picture.

This then forced them to set up and record everything in a studio to actually have film that was controlled on the event.

So they went to the moon but the photo's and film was all done at home in a controlled studio environment.

The actual reason they went was to look at the moon rocks for evidence of a Sun micro nova event and they found it in the rocks glazed over with shards of tiny impacts from outside impacting them.

Every 12,000 years give or take the Sun goes through this cycle and we are coming up on another event in the next 20 years give or take but that is just a guess, it could happen much sooner.

This is what wipes out most life every 12,000 years but it is a survivable event or we wouldn't be here.



You need to check what you are smoking.

[StreetsOfGold]

You need to check what you are smoking.

and if the moon was FILLED with UFO's, you could SEE them with a powerful telescope, now available to common folks.
What you do SEE, on occasions, is the ability to see THROUGH the moon (transparent)
This means the moon is not even a PLACE, you can put your foot on but instead, a LIGHT, like the Bible says!

Genesis 1:16 And God made two great (places? NO!) lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

[Neuro]

and if the moon was FILLED with UFO's, you could SEE them with a powerful telescope, now available to common folks.
What you do SEE, on occasions, is the ability to see THROUGH the moon (transparent)
This means the moon is not even a PLACE, you can put your foot on but instead, a LIGHT, like the Bible says!

Genesis 1:16 And God made two great (places? NO!) lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

Hmmm I am going to Goa, India tonight. on the 26th of December a solar eclipse is scheduled, how is it that a lesser light can block out a stronger light? I suppose it is possible I was lied to, and that there isn’t a “solar eclipse” either.

[JDRock]

does anyone know for certain what became of ponce?

[Cebu_4_2]

Pretty sure he died. How that happened there is no certain cause. Through reasearch you can find the threads on this but there are no solid answers.

[Neuro]

does anyone know for certain what became of ponce?

I wouldn’t rule out he was murdered, for starting spilling the beans on the Kennedy assasination...

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?97053-Was-Ponce-Murdered-by-the-CIA-over-JFK-knowledge&highlight=Ponce+Kennedy