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Horn
24th July 2014, 07:34 PM
could fully charge a cellphone in minutes

PUBLISHED: 19:34 GMT, 23 May 2014 | UPDATED: 20:53 GMT, 23 May 2014

Material can turn phone casings, car chassis and even walls into quick charging batteries
Researchers at Vanderbilt have created first working prototypes

Mobile phones that can be charged in minutes could soon be possible thanks to a radical new battery technology.
Called supercapacitors, the material, in the form of a wafer, can turn phone casings, car chassis and even walls into quick charging batteries.
Researchers at Vanderbilt say they have created the first working prototypes of the technology


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'These devices demonstrate -for the first time as far as we can tell - that it is possible to create materials that can store and discharge significant amounts of electricity while they are subject to realistic static loads and dynamic forces, such as vibrations or impacts,' said Cary Pint, one of the researchers.

The new device that Pint and Westover has developed is a supercapacitor that stores electricity by assembling electrically charged ions on the surface of a porous material, instead of storing it in chemical reactions the way batteries do.

As a result, supercaps can charge and discharge in minutes, instead of hours, and operate for millions of cycles, instead of thousands of cycles like batteries.
'When you can integrate energy into the components used to build systems, it opens the door to a whole new world of technological possibilities.

'All of a sudden, the ability to design technologies at the basis of health, entertainment, travel and social communication will not be limited by plugs and external power sources,' Pint said.


Supercapacitors store ten times less energy than current lithium-ion batteries, but they can last a thousand times longer - meaning they can be built into walls and chassis.
'Battery performance metrics change when you’re putting energy storage into heavy materials that are already needed for structural integrity,' said Pint.

'Supercapacitors store ten times less energy than current lithium-ion batteries, but they can last a thousand times longer.

'That means they are better suited for structural applications.

'It doesn’t make sense to develop materials to build a home, car chassis, or aerospace vehicle if you have to replace them every few years because they go dead.'


In a paper appearing online May 19 in the journal Nano Letters, Pint and Westover report that their new structural supercapacitor operates flawlessly in storing and releasing electrical charge while subject to stresses or pressures up to 44 psi and vibrational accelerations over 80 g (significantly greater than those acting on turbine blades in a jet engine).
Furthermore, the mechanical robustness of the device doesn’t compromise its energy storage capability.

'In an unpackaged, structurally integrated state our supercapacitor can store more energy and operate at higher voltages than a packaged, off-the-shelf commercial supercapacitor, even under intense dynamic and static forces,' Pint said.




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The engineers suspended a heavy laptop from the supercapacitor to demonstrate its strength

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Serpo
24th July 2014, 07:47 PM
and operate for millions of cycles

Ponce
24th July 2014, 07:51 PM
A new era for cars, motorcycles and even home power.....the electric companies will fight this all the way......how will they steal from us if they don't have the means to steal from us?....and the oil companies of course.

V

Dogman
24th July 2014, 07:56 PM
Have some electronics that use some of the early ones, 1 farad or so, that are amazing. Instant (almost) charging and then they act like a battery. My davis weather station uses one on the remote sensor package.

Small/high energy density/do not have the cycle limitations that current batterys have.

What is there not to like?

Horn
24th July 2014, 07:57 PM
Alls you'd need is one good lightning strike to charge the house and car up for the rest of your life. :)

We need to package it into lego block housing material.

Dogman
24th July 2014, 07:59 PM
Alls you'd need is one good lightning strike to charge the house and car up for the rest of your life. :)

We need to package into lego block housing material.

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Serpo
24th July 2014, 08:02 PM
A new era for cars, motorcycles and even home power.....the electric companies will fight this all the way......how will they steal from us if they don't have the means to steal from us?....and the oil companies of course.

V

grass roots its got to come from the grass roots and it will,its becoming overwhelming for them to stop it

Glass
25th July 2014, 09:36 AM
I think they will still consume a lot of electricity to charge them. Just delivered in a shorter time. Not sure if that is because of the size of each of these or if overall faster when joined to make appliance size battery. Do they use a specifically designed charger?

Horn
25th July 2014, 09:55 AM
I think they will still consume a lot of electricity to charge them. Just delivered in a shorter time. Not sure if that is because of the size of each of these or if overall faster when joined to make appliance size battery. Do they use a specifically designed charger?

Its a capacitor, they charge and discharge easily (more efficient) just doesn't hold as much. These particular researchers are looking to incorporate it into a structural material, or the capacitor itself has the initial strength integrity to become the structural material, and lasts indefinitely or until damaged.

basically the chassis or shell of a car or cellphone could be your battery (capacitor), how you tap into that capacity would be handled and protected as with any other mechanical electrical connection.

singular_me
25th July 2014, 10:22 AM
anything created with the real understanding of electricity and electro-magnetism will revolutionize society.

They fooled Tesla and stole his knowledge to stall all discoveries in the field and control patents/academia... but lies cannot last forever

Hatha Sunahara
25th July 2014, 12:06 PM
This is a development that is expected since the discovery of a substance known as 'graphene' in 2004. Graphene is a surface mesh material made of carbon atoms sort of like a fishing net on a nano scale. It has properties that would support many varied applications, one of which is as a supercapacitor and as a battery. I can also be developed into a material that makes reverse osmosis on a large scale economically viable, thus making desalination of seawater economically viable. Here's a link to an article that gives some more background on graphene based batteries. Anyone interested in profitable hi-tech investments that could make you wealthy in a few yeas should look into companies that are engaged in graphene development.

http://phys.org/news/2014-05-graphene-large-scale-electricity-storage.html

And here is a link describing wider uses of graphene technologies:

http://www.understandingnano.com/graphene-applications.html


Hatha

singular_me
25th July 2014, 02:06 PM
Hatha, with all my due respect, if real inexpensive or almost free technologies begin to take over, speculation will die in slow motion.

speculation is a NWO monopoly concept

Horn
25th July 2014, 02:53 PM
speculation is a NWO monopoly concept

Practice, not concept.

The only place that speculation belongs in the tech realms, not in commodity and finance markets. There's nothing wrong with speculative investment specifically on sound morals, imo when you are "speculating" in a new field.

Its not really speculating in other founded fields its leeching.

Hatha Sunahara
25th July 2014, 03:13 PM
When you buy stock in hi-tech companies that are developing new technologies with the expectation of the value of the stock to go up, is that speculating? The investment is full of risk--risk that the company will fail for any of a number of reasons--not least of which is poor management. If they suceed, you deserve some reward. If they fail you will lose your money.

If you manipulate the market, and provide your friends with tips on what you are doing, your friends are speculating. Speculating is always done in manipulated markets. In my post above, I was assuming investors are honest, and not getting inside information that guarantee them a risk-free (dishonest) reward.



Hatha

Neuro
26th July 2014, 01:55 AM
Alls you'd need is one good lightning strike to charge the house and car up for the rest of your life. :)

We need to package it into lego block housing material.
I was just thinking that as I read the article. How about solar film on the outside surface, then capacitator film, insulation and on the inside LED-film, for a nice ambient light, and you just print the whole shebang in a 3D-printer, in whatever shape you like...

Another application due to its fast discharge capabilities would be weapons, like ray-guns, high powered lasers. Put one of those on the roof of your solar capacitator house, and who would get the idea to bother you?

Anyway you look at it, this is a great breakthrough and it is going to change the world.

Danubian
26th July 2014, 03:17 AM
Practice, not concept.

The only place that speculation belongs in the tech realms, not in commodity.........

Wouldn't 'speculation in the tech realm' be more accurately characterised as funding 'research and development' - an entrepreneurial activity? But speculating in commodities benefits society as a whole in the absence of fiat money. In that instance the speculators use their own money to hedge production variations which even out nature driven risks. Of course, provided the speculation occurs in a sound money economy and no one controls the weather, there's only nature driven risks. This type of speculation is legitimate.

Conversely, financial speculation, namely speculating on man made risks, such as interest rates and their derivatives or currencies and their derivatives is counterproductive, no, even destructive to society, enriching a few at the expense of the many. This type of speculation is illegitimate. In a sound money economy it doesn't exist because interest rates are stable so bond speculators starve.

Horn
26th July 2014, 09:31 AM
Book driven commodity speculation as some type of an insurance plan...

Well we ca all see the apparent downsides of rampant insurance collusion.

Horn
26th July 2014, 09:38 AM
I was just thinking that as I read the article. How about solar film on the outside surface, then capacitator film, insulation and on the inside LED-film, for a nice ambient light, and you just print the whole shebang in a 3D-printer, in whatever shape you like...

Another application due to its fast discharge capabilities would be weapons, like ray-guns, high powered lasers. Put one of those on the roof of your solar capacitator house, and who would get the idea to bother you?

Anyway you look at it, this is a great breakthrough and it is going to change the world.

Honestly i don't know enough about electrical but am determined to learn, maybe it is as glass states that you would need an equal or greater force to charge it, can you slow charge a capacitor as per a solar example?

Dogman
26th July 2014, 10:00 AM
Honestly i don't know enough about electrical but am determined to learn, maybe it is as glass states that you would need an equal or greater force to charge it, can you slow charge a capacitor as per a solar example?
Yes it should,

The cap voltage and charge will increase and then float at its rated capacity!

As long as the supply voltage/current is at or less than the caps
Ratings.

Over voltage can make caps go bang/explode!

One thing that is different abt caps!

They are not like battery's as far as serial/parallel goes!

Ohms law treats them different!

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_13/4.html

singular_me
26th July 2014, 12:11 PM
speculation goes along with hype and who says hype says booms and busts :)

speculating on robots to take over people's jobs ? we shall see how wall street is doing when that happens.



Practice, not concept.

The only place that speculation belongs in the tech realms, not in commodity and finance markets. There's nothing wrong with speculative investment specifically on sound morals, imo when you are "speculating" in a new field.

Its not really speculating in other founded fields its leeching.

Horn
26th July 2014, 02:35 PM
The cap voltage and charge will increase and then float at its rated capacity!

No rated break horsepower needed to puncture surface tension? If a car were built out of this stuff it may not be the safest place in a thunder storm anymore. lol!

I read something where they use nano-diamonds along with the graphene to create...

Horn
26th July 2014, 02:41 PM
speculation goes along with hype and who says hype says booms and busts :)

You are struggling against a fabricated singularity. :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdNE7gjSE0w

Neuro
27th July 2014, 01:21 AM
No rated break horsepower needed to puncture surface tension?
It would be the voltage. The current (Amps) could be variable, iow slow charge/rapid discharge of electrons or vice versa, just like a normal battery, the main difference would be that it could be charged/discharged much more rapidly. If you are into that you probably need superconducting wires, or a LOT of silver if you are poor...

Horn
27th July 2014, 09:48 AM
If you are into that you probably need superconducting wires, or a LOT of silver if you are poor...

At another article I read they were claiming the materials and process used were cost prohibitive enough to do the large scale structural type applications they are referring to.

Who knows if that's just the hype section?

steyr_m
27th July 2014, 07:33 PM
Dunno, I have a data-logger that I made in 2005 that has a super-cap. Not that new to me....