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mick silver
22nd August 2014, 01:59 PM
White-on-white murder in America is out of control Updated by Matthew Yglesias (http://www.vox.com/authors/matthew-yglesias) on August 21, 2014, 4:40 p.m. ET @mattyglesias (http://twitter.com/mattyglesias) matt@vox.com
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"Blacks represent 13% of the population but commit 50% of the murders; 90% of black victims are murdered by other blacks," writes Time's Joe Klein (https://time.com/3153340/beyond-a-simple-solution-for-ferguson/), calling for "provocative" thinking on race in America. "The facts suggest that history is not enough to explain this social disaster."
there are many countries where white people murder each other at a much lower rate than you see here in the United States


Yet the disturbing truth, according to the FBI's most recent homicide statistics (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6), is that the United States is in the wake of an epidemic of white-on-white crime. Back in 2011, the most recent year for which data is available, a staggering 83 percent of white murder victims were killed by fellow Caucasians.
This is not to say that white people are inherently prone to violence. Most whites, obviously, manage to get through life without murdering anyone. And there are many countries full of white people — Norway, Iceland, France, Denmark, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom — where white people murder each other at a much lower rate than you see here in the United States. On the other hand, although people often see criminal behavior as a symptom of poverty, the quantity of murder committed by white people specifically in the United States casts some doubt on this. Per capita GDP is considerably higher here than in France — and the white population in America is considerably richer than the national average — and yet we have more white murderers.
To understand the level of cultural pathology at work here, it's important to understand that 36 percent of those killed by whites are women — a far higher share than you see with black murderers.
Clearly, the social disaster of white violence has complicated roots. But the beginning of an answer is to admit that we have a problem. It's striking that President Obama, who's frequently found time to comment on the height of black men's waistlines (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/11/obama-to-mtv-br/), seems oblivious to this torrent of white killing. To be fair to the White House, however, it would be uniquely difficult for Obama (http://www.vox.com/2014/8/18/6031197/obama-ferguson-race-speech) to address this delicate issue. The real tragedy is that none of Obama's 43 white predecessors have addressed it either. Indeed, looking back on America's political iconography, there are disturbing trends toward the glorification of white violence. Peer inside the US Capitol building, and you'll find a monument to Confederate President Jefferson Davis (http://www.aoc.gov/capitol-hill/national-statuary-hall-collection/jefferson-davis) — the leader of an insurgency that caused an unprecedented quantity of violent white deaths.
But whatever the causes or past mistakes, the important thing is to confront this important subject in the future. As we look ahead to a 2016 matchup that should give us two Euro-American major party nominees for the first time in a decade, perhaps America can finally get the debate about white violence it deserves.

mick silver
22nd August 2014, 02:00 PM
whites are some fucked up people is you think this is right it looks to be a hit piece

Carl
22nd August 2014, 03:14 PM
We need more welfare for whites, that'll fix it...

Spectrism
22nd August 2014, 03:36 PM
Look at the raw numbers and forget the confusing "percentage" given.



White
killed 3,172
by whites 2,630
by blacks 448




Black
killed 2,695 by whites 193
by blacks 2,447






So if you want to play the comparison game, you have crossed race killings of 448 by blacks over 193 by whites... with the black population largely outnumbered by the whites.

Ponce
22nd August 2014, 05:34 PM
Me Cubano NO WHITE, mi brown.......hummm, I'd better do something with my green eyes......do they sell makeup to make skin brown or pink or something..........not blk.........actually cops are pretty good, they don't care if you are white or blk.....they will kill you anyway.

General of Darkness
22nd August 2014, 06:04 PM
Oh give me a fucking break. Just search for FBI, DEA, etc etc Most wanted and see what race they put them as.

This is ONE example that took me less than 3 minutes to find.


http://www.fbi.gov/header_wanted-fugitives.png

Unlawful Flight to Avoid Prosecution - Aggravated Criminal Sexual Abuse of a Child
JUAN NAJERA QUEZADA


http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cac/juan-najera-quezada/image_thumb


Photograph taken in 2007



Multimedia: (http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cac/juan-najera-quezada/person_view_multimedia) Images (http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cac/juan-najera-quezada/person_view_multimedia#images)
Alias: Juan Quezada
DESCRIPTION



Date(s) of Birth Used:
July 11, 1958


Place of Birth:
Mexico


Height:
5'0" to 5'4"


Weight:
155 to 165 pounds


NCIC:
W914441557


Occupation:
Quezada previously worked in landscaping.





Hair:
Black


Eyes:
Brown


Sex:
Male


Race:
White (Hispanic)


Nationality:
Mexican







Remarks:
Quezada previously lived in Chicago, Illinois, and may have ties to Northwest Indiana and Mexico.




CAUTION Juan Najera Quezada is being sought for his alleged involvement in the sexual abuse of a six-year-old female in Chicago, Illinois in June of 2007.
In August of 2007, Quezada was arrested by Chicago Police Department officers after he was identified as having sexually assaulted the child, who lived in the same apartment building as him. At the time of the incident, Quezada resided with a woman who ran a daycare service out of the home. Quezada failed to appear following his release on bond from the arrest, and is also being sought for questioning in connection with the sexual assault of another child while out on bond.

Quezada was charged with aggravated criminal sexual abuse of a child by the Circuit Court of Cook County, Illinois, and a state warrant was issued for his arrest on September 30, 2008. On February 9, 2012, Quezada was charged in the United States District Court, Northern District of Illinois, Eastern Division, Chicago, Illinois, with unlawful flight to avoid prosecution and a warrant was issued for his arrest.


SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ARMED AND DANGEROUS
If you have any information concerning this person, please contact your local FBI office (http://www.fbi.gov/contact-us) or the nearest American Embassy or Consulate. (http://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/legat)
Field Office: Chicago (http://chicago.fbi.gov)

General of Darkness
22nd August 2014, 06:07 PM
This one is my favorite. This POS is white?

Los Angeles FUGITIVES



http://www.justice.gov/dea/fugitives/la/zapata.jpg


Zapata-Padilla, Marcelo





FUGITIVE NCIC #:
W394343360


WANTED FOR:
The following alleged Federal Drug Violations:

Conspiracy to Possess With the Intent to Distribute Cocaine
Distribution of Cocaine




JURISDICTION:
Central District of California


AKA:
Janpher Daniel BAEZ, Fabian VEGA


RACE:
White


SEX:
Male


HEIGHT:
5''8"


WEIGHT:
140


HAIR:
Black


EYES:
Brown


YOB:
1980


POB:
Dominican Republic


LAST KNOWN ADDRESS:
Unknown


NOTE:
Armed and Dangerous

JohnQPublic
22nd August 2014, 06:30 PM
Look at the raw numbers and forget the confusing "percentage" given.



White
killed 3,172
by whites 2,630
by blacks 448




Black
killed 2,695 by whites 193
by blacks 2,447






So if you want to play the comparison game, you have crossed race killings of 448 by blacks over 193 by whites... with the black population largely outnumbered by the whites.

Normalized to total population (blacks/.13, whites/.87):




White
killed 3,645

by whites 23,022

by blacks 515






Black
killed 20,730 by whites 1484
by blacks 18,823

osoab
22nd August 2014, 08:23 PM
Look at the raw numbers and forget the confusing "percentage" given.



White
killed 3,172
by whites 2,630
by blacks 448




Black
killed 2,695 by whites 193
by blacks 2,447






So if you want to play the comparison game, you have crossed race killings of 448 by blacks over 193 by whites... with the black population largely outnumbered by the whites.

linky for your stats?

Spectrism
23rd August 2014, 07:25 AM
linky for your stats?

From OP.



Yet the disturbing truth, according to the FBI's most recent homicide statistics (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6), is that the United States is in the wake of an epidemic of white-on-white crime. Back in 2011, the most recent year for which data is available, a staggering 83 percent of white murder victims were killed by fellow Caucasians.

Spectrism
23rd August 2014, 07:28 AM
Normalized to total population (blacks/.13, whites/.87):




White
killed 3,645
by whites 23,022
by blacks 515





Black
killed 20,730 by whites 1484
by blacks 18,823





Not sure what that means... but "normalized" is not the raw numbers. I think your ratios need to be inverted to get to real "normalized" numbers.

Spectrism
23rd August 2014, 09:39 AM
Here is an interesting video to splain sum things....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGTUcS-yQtQ#t=11