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Serpo
23rd August 2014, 02:05 PM
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(Health Impact (http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/als-ice-bucket-challenge-do-you-know-what-you-are-supporting/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=als-ice-bucket-challenge-do-you-know-what-you-are-supporting)) The ALS Ice Bucket Challenge to raise money for the ALS Association is sweeping the nation, and going viral in social media. However, do you know what you are supporting if you contribute funds to the ALS Association?
The ALS Association (http://www.alsa.org/about-us/) describes their “mission”:

Established in 1985, The ALS Association is the only national non-profit organization fighting Lou Gehrig’s Disease on every front. By leading the way in global research, providing assistance for people with ALS through a nationwide network of chapters, coordinating multidisciplinary care through certified clinical care centers, and fostering government partnerships, The Association builds hope and enhances quality of life while aggressively searching for new treatments and a cure.
As the preeminent ALS organization, The Association leads the way in research, care services, public education, and public policy — giving help and hope to those facing the disease. The Association’s nationwide network of chapters provides comprehensive patient services and support to the ALS community. (Source (http://www.alsa.org/about-us/).)
ALS is the acronym for Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, commonly known as “Lou Gehrig’s Disease.” Media portrayals of the Ice Bucket Challenge generally state that ALS “is always fatal and has no known cure,” and therefore urge people to contribute to the ALS Association to fund research to find a cure.
Where Does the Money Contributed to the ALS Association Go? So where does the money donated to the ALS Association actually go? You may be surprised to find out that the Association itself claims (http://www.alsa.org/about-us/financial-information.html) that only 27% of its funds go towards research.

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We pulled up their 2013 tax returns (http://www.alsa.org/assets/pdfs/form-20990-20-20f2014-20irs-20sgd-2006-11-2014.pdf) to take a closer look at how their funds are spent. Here are the salaries for the leadership of the group:


Jane H. Gilbert – President and CEO – $339,475.00
Daniel M. Reznikov – Chief Financial Officer – $201,260.00
Steve Gibson – Chief Public Policy Officer – $182,862.00
Kimberly Maginnis - Chief of Care Services Officer – $160,646.00
Lance Slaughter - Chief Chapter Relations and Development Officer – $152,692.00
Michelle Keegan – Chief Development Officer – $178,744.00
John Applegate – Association Finance Officer – $118.726.00
David Moses – Director of Planned Giving – $112,509.00
Carrie Munk – Chief Communications and Marketing Officer – $142,875.00
Patrick Wildman – Director of Public Policy – $112,358.00
Kathi Kromer – Director of State Advocacy – $110,661.00

Total administration costs, as seen in the pie chart above, were just under $2 million. “Other salaries and wages” (Part IX line 7) were $3.6 million, with another half million dollars in “pension plans” and “employee benefits.” Expenses for non-employee labor were about $4 million, and “travel expenses” exceeded $1.3 million.
So total costs for labor to run the association was around $12.5 million, from revenues received totaling $24 million.
Over 50% of what the ALS Association receives appears to support salaries of people working for the Association, based on these tax returns.
So what about the rest of the revenue?
Almost $1 million was spent on “Lobbying” (Schedule C Part II 2a). Here is what they wrote concerning their Lobbying efforts:

Explanation: The purpose of our advocacy program is to sensitize legislators to, and obtain their sympathy for, the plight of ALS victims, patients and their families, and to influence legislation regarding the appropriation of federal funds for ALS research and the use and cost to patients of “orphan” drugs.
The largest amount of what is remaining is: “Grants and other assistance to governments and organizations in the United States” (Part IX line 1) – $6.2 million. This amount is itemized on Schedule 1. Almost all of these recipients are medical schools, with strong ties to the pharmaceutical industry.
The ALS Association was started in 1985, and they still have not invested in any new cures for ALS. One of the latest failures was Biogen’s drug dexpramipexole, which halted research in early 2013 (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324374004578219440148805874). The drug was in research for more than 10 years at an estimated cost of between $75 million and $100 million, but was abandoned in last stage development due to poor results. (Source (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324374004578219440148805874).)
If You Are Pro-life, You Are Supporting Research in Stem-Cells from Aborted Fetuses for ALS The ALS Foundation’s primary work in “research” is in the development of new pharmaceutical drugs, and that includes stem cell research (http://www.alsa.org/research/about-als-research/stem-cells.html). Here is one study where they have been listed as a sponsor: A Phase I, Open-label, First-in-human Feasibility and Safety Study of Human Spinal Cord derived Neural Stem Cell Transplantation for the Treatment of Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (http://www.alsconsortium.org/trial.php?id=12). Quote:

These stem cells have been engineered from the spinal cord of a single fetus electively aborted after eight weeks of gestation. The tissue was obtained with the mother’s consent.
When we make a contribution to a charity, typically we want to know that the particular charity reflects our own values, so this will be important information for many people.
Are There non-Drug Alternatives for ALS Treatment? Yes! However, you are not likely to read anything about this from a non-profit charitable organization supporting the pharmaceutical industry. We have previously reported the story of Clarence and his experience in using coconut oil: Coconut Oil Reverses Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS) (http://healthimpactnews.com/2012/coconut-oil-reverses-amyotrophic-lateral-sclerosis-als/).
Coconut oil can be used in a strict ketogenic diet that has been shown to be successful in treating Alzheimer’s disease (http://healthimpactnews.com/2012/5-medical-doctors-with-gary-taubes-and-robb-wolf-discuss-coconut-oil-and-alzheimers-disease/), Parkinson’s (http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/coconut-oil-improves-life-of-74-year-old-man-with-parkinsons/), diabetes (http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/study-compares-american-diabetes-association-low-fat-diet-to-high-fat-ketogenic-diet-for-helping-diabetes-ketogenic-diet-wins/), and cancer (http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/study-intermittent-fasting-and-ketogenic-diet-effective-in-cancer-therapy/). among others (http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/is-the-ketogenic-diet-the-cure-for-multiple-diseases/). The principles of the ketogenic diet are completely different from the philosophy that the pharmaceutical companies start from in their research, where the assumption is that ALS is a “genetic disease.” Most of the current research on fighting disease with a ketogenic diet starts out with the assumption that modern diseases are primarily metabolic, and not genetic, caused by such things as poor diet, toxins in our food and environment, etc.
Another non-drug approach currently seeing success with those suffering from ALS is theDeanna Protocol (http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/deanna-protocol-offers-nutritional-program-to-slow-or-stop-als/). This nutritional protocol has seen great success among many users, but I could find no information on any research being done on it by the ALS Association, sadly.
Charities and fun activities like the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge can often give us a feeling of contributing to something very helpful and worthwhile, but it is always wise to research any charity first. Examining their tax returns is one good way to find out where their money is actually being spent.


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General of Darkness
23rd August 2014, 02:26 PM
I had no idea about this until I saw Bill Gates do it then I knew it was bad.

gunDriller
23rd August 2014, 02:33 PM
is there a Clif Notes version ?

so all these semi-famous people, in the MSM, are putting buckets of ice over their head.

if there's a test, i definitely am not ready for it.


maybe i can figure out what the ruckus is about by reading People magazine at the supermarket.

Serpo
23rd August 2014, 02:36 PM
Bridgette Bardo wouldnt do it because of this.............still I think its a normal charity ,the operators get everything basically

Look at this head line ...what idiots....
'We don’t want our children to grow up rich': History presenter Dan Snow and his heiress wife Lady Edwina Grosvenor 'might give their children’s inheritance to charity'





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2732614/We-don-t-want-children-grow-rich-History-presenter-Dan-Snow-heiress-wife-Lady-Edwina-Grosvenor-childrens-inheritance-charity.html

Libertytree
23rd August 2014, 02:59 PM
Observations....

The 1st time I saw this I thought of those arctic swimming clubs and all I can hear them say is "what a bunch of pikers!"

It's just not celebs doing this but everyday folks, getting their 15 seconds of fame.

I still don't understand who's footing the bill(s) for this... are there sponsors or some such?

Shami-Amourae
23rd August 2014, 03:03 PM
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StreetsOfGold
23rd August 2014, 04:01 PM
I never heard of ALS until someone posted a video of G. Bush doing this.
I immediately thought to myself - This CAN'T be a worthy cause!

It is good to see confirmation

Dogman
23rd August 2014, 04:17 PM
Most that follow baseball, heard of ALS, but it became real for me when a good friend during h/s formed a band which I was a member until uncle SAM had other ideals abt my life. They were very good and whooping ass at all of the early 70's "battle of the bands" that were going one in the ares. He was a kick ass lead guitarist.

I was back home on leave and his mother and he visited, he could barely walk or talk, most of his muscles were wasted. He had ALS, and it was heartbreaking seeing him, to have something that destroys the body but leaves the mind clear.

He died abt 6 months after his visit while I was in Thailand doing the war thing.

Hell of a way to go, clear mind and live through the body slowly shutting down.

Rip !

Randy!

Do not care, any bucks spent fighting that dam disease is a very good thing.

I do not care for the over the top salary's that some make, it is wrong!

But also ALS is sorta rare so the major research labs ignore it, the big pharmacy bunch can not make money from it.

Sorta like Lupus, if you got it you are screwed.

Dachsie
23rd August 2014, 09:32 PM
I was not clear from reading this what the "ice bucket" thing was all about but guess if you want a little fame you dump a bucket of ice on your head and somehow this drums up lots of donations for this nonprofit group.

What struck me as a bit ironic is that emersing a person's head in a bucket of ice and water is a treatment that is given in emergency rooms for PAT, paroxysmal atrial tachycardia, a condition where a persons heart start beating very very rapidly. My sis had that and I took her to the ER and they put her on a table and inclined her head way down and her feet up and they brought in a huge tub of ice that had some water in it but mainly ice. They pushed her head down in this tub and kept it there for about a minute. I guess the idea is to try to shock her system and click her heart back into regular rhythm.

ALS is a sad and serious disease. But I am afraid BigPharma is deeply connected to all medical research and their connected charity organizations. Let's face it. We just do not believe what the medical establishment tells us anymore, and the medical establishment is owned and operated by BigPharma. BigPharma is basically about culling the population, not about using their huge profits to sponsor meaningful research and cures for serious diseases. Their profits depend on lots of incurable serious diseases. That's where their money is.

(P.S. As far as how donations are used, it is about the same breakdown for American Cancer Society and all of the big nonprofit health related charitable organizations.)

pioneer
24th August 2014, 07:36 AM
my first experience of anyone with ALS was my best friend's MIL. it was not pleasant way to die. i was informed at the time that most ALS patients go due to choking because of their swallowing reflex being one of the last to succumb. that's how she went.

the family didn't see it occur but was kept informed because everytime they visited, like daily, they received reports as to the progression of being more and more difficult to swallow. she was in residential care by that stage. her demise was witnessed by care-givers who had seen it before and knew they couldn't do anything to help her.

on a happier note, i now know of someone who received this diagnosis within the last 4 years. with the aid of alternative medicine, he is now well on the way to recovering, and is living a useful, high quality life, even with his ALS still detectable, diagnostically. he maintains the nutritionally based protocols that brought his turnaround, in order to keep his hard-fought progess back to the land of the living "normally".

before any ask, yes, it was a confirmed diagnosis on the second ALS patient upon whom i am reporting, who has recovered and beat back this disease. my hope is that many more will benefit from his and other's more optimal outcome in fighting this after having watching the MIL succumb so horribly.

dr. stephen hawking is a well-known ALS patient. something has kept him alive, and there's no doubt his mind is still functioning.

it is a remarkable experience for me to see this ALS disease play out with 3 different outcomes.

we all will die of something. i just don't chose for it to be via ALS.

Serpo
24th August 2014, 04:29 PM
ALS....................Antichrist Lucifer Satan ...........

she mentions at one part that ALS could infact stand for this........




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh2VKP0l4Ug#t=342

Dachsie
24th August 2014, 05:46 PM
Interesting video. I agree with her Illuminati/baptism symbolism thesis. I also agree that we are in the "end times."

I guess I would more make the connection that the "serious disease of ALS" that everybody is supposed to know about and have very deep concern about and for its victims is BEING USED in the Illuminati Satanic symbolic ritualistic "ice bucket challenge" UNDER THE GUISE or the DISGUISE of garnering monetary donations for a loving seriously good cause. So you connect something Luciferian and evil, that is, a Satanic ritualistic symbolic act, with something that is loving and good and a true cause for concern. Woe to those who call evil good. And I would expand on that by saying 'woe to those who construct and display and spread evil under the guise of good.

ALS is a neurological disease. All or almost all of the neurological diseases are, in the world of medicine, basically mystery diseases. I used to work in a large medical teaching instution and hospital complex. When a patient presented with a set of neurological symptoms, the neurologists and their medical students would love to sit around and talk and talk about what the patient's diagnosis might be. They never really were sure of the diagnosis and there is no certain objective blood or urine or whatever kind of test to prove the existence of a certain diagnosis. Also there is no cure and not medicine that cures and no medical or sugical procedure that cures any neurological disease or set of symptoms. Neurologists never have anything of substance to offer real help to their patients. They have some medicines that help in a very temporary way and that have to be continually taken and which in themselves cause a new set of serious side effects.

I would add that this Ice Challenge also sets in juxtaposition and contrasts the "effective" and "curative" and "true problem solving" Satanic ritual in contrast to this weak ineffective ways of medicine and health treatments incurable diseases. Satan can perform the healing miracle but man and this world's reality system are a useless weak waste of time, so join up with these rich famous ice bucket challengers and their worship of Lucifer to have all the material, this world now, wealth and fame, because that is where reality and power and happiness are.

(Of course, the Satanists/Luciferians always mimic and turn upside down, mirror image, of Christ and his sacrifice on the cross, ergo, the "black mass" and the other mimicking of the sacraments established by Christ.)

Horn
24th August 2014, 05:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh2VKP0l4Ug#t=342

Its all a conspiracy to chill immune systems into being more susceptible to Ebola.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgyeUHH_V0g

mick silver
25th August 2014, 11:22 AM
just one more list NOT to give too .... we help others but never do we give to the rich to make them richer ...Jane H. Gilbert – President and CEO – $339,475.00
Daniel M. Reznikov – Chief Financial Officer – $201,260.00
Steve Gibson – Chief Public Policy Officer – $182,862.00
Kimberly Maginnis - Chief of Care Services Officer – $160,646.00
Lance Slaughter - Chief Chapter Relations and Development Officer – $152,692.00
Michelle Keegan – Chief Development Officer – $178,744.00
John Applegate – Association Finance Officer – $118.726.00
David Moses – Director of Planned Giving – $112,509.00
Carrie Munk – Chief Communications and Marketing Officer – $142,875.00
Patrick Wildman – Director of Public Policy – $112,358.00
Kathi Kromer – Director of State Advocacy – $110,661.00 ....

osoab
25th August 2014, 11:30 AM
They should try this challenge,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSEumraCizg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSEumraCizg

Serpo
26th August 2014, 02:31 PM
http://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/21389/1/no-ice-gaza-is-doing-the-rubble-bucket-challengehttp://images.dazedcdn.com/786x700/dd/1080/7/1087179.jpg


While the West chucks endless buckets of water around, Palestinians have responded with their own version of the craze – the Rubble Bucket Challenge. The idea is simple: raise awareness for the political situation in Gaza (http://www.dazeddigital.com/tag/gaza) by replacing ice and water with debris from bombed-out buildings.
Palestinian journalist Ayman al-Aloul and Jordanian comedian Mohammed Darwaza have spearheaded the movement, with both releasing videos of themselves pouring rubble on their heads.
"We looked for a bucket of water, however the use of water is more important than to go over our heads," Aloul says in his video. "This challenge is for all people who sympathise with the Palestinian people. We ask for solidarity from those who have followers and audience."
Aloul hopes that the viral craze will catch on and higlight the ongoing political situation in Gaza, as well the poverty and instability that riddles the region. "We don't have water, but this is what we do have," he says, standing among the remains of homes destroyed by the recent Israel-Palestine conflict.

Bigjon
26th August 2014, 03:36 PM
If you want to know how to cure some of these incurable diseases you have to talk to your local veterinarian.

INTERACTIONS BETWEEN SELENIUM AND IODINE
April 27, 1999
This article was posted at www.ithyroid.com (http://www.ithyroid.com) and we thank the author, John, for his excellentresearch. The article has since been taken down, and we have been unableto reach the author to request his permission, but we respectfully give creditto the source.

According to the manufacturer,Thyodine contains about 40 mcg. (micrograms) of iodine per tablet. Themanufacturer has now added 50 mcg. of selenium per tablet. Thyodine nowcontains a relatively balanced amount of selenium and iodine. We recommend atotal daily intake of 200-400 mcg./day of selenium, depending upon bodysize.

Selenium and iodine are twominerals which are critically important in the proper functioning of thethyroid. While the importance of iodine has been known a long time, theimportance of selenium has only been discovered and explored since 1990. Muchresearch is presently being conducted on the functions of these two minerals inthyroid function and it is becoming clear that there is an interaction between thetwo. Iodine has a seemingly simple role in the thyroid-it is incorporated intothe thyroid hormone molecule.
A deficiency of iodine willcause hypothyroidism and if this is severe and occurs during pregnancy, theoffspring will be mentally damaged and is called a cretin. Cretinism, ormyxeodematous cretinism as it is sometimes called, is not only caused by aniodine deficiency, but is also influenced by a selenium deficiency. Iodineapparently has just one function in the body-in the thyroid.
Selenium, on the other hand,performs many functions. At the beginning of the 1990s it was discovered thatthe deiodinase enzymes which convert T4 (thyroxin, the thyroid prohormone) intoT3 (triiodothyronine, the cellularly active hormone) and also convert T3 intoT2, thereby degrading it, are selenium enzymes (formed with the amino acidcysteine). This discovery has led to a lot of research studies on the effectsof selenium, iodine, and their interactions.
Selenium also performs otherimportant roles in the body. The most important of these is probably as itsrole as the body's best antioxidant (anti-peroxidant). It performs this role aspart of glutathione peroxidase (GSHPx or GPX). As part of GPX, seleniumprevents lipids and fats from being peroxidized (oxidized), which literallymeans that it prevents fats from going rancid (this can be seen on your skin as"age spots" or "liver spots" (autopsies show that skin"liver spots" are accompanied by similar spots of peroxidized fats inthe liver.) Therefore selenium protects all of the cellular membranes, whichare made up of fats, from peroxidation. Peroxidation of cellular membranesreduces the ability of the membrane to pass nutrients including minerals andvitamins, so selenium deficiency is the first step toward developing the manyproblems caused by nutrient deficiencies.
Joel Wallach considers aselenium deficiency combined with high intake of vegetable oils (saladdressings, margarine, cooking oils) as the "quickest route to a heartattack and cancer." It seems that the body uses a lot of selenium toprotect the fats from peroxidation. Polyunsaturated fats which are hydrogenatedor heated become the same as rancid fats and large amounts of selenium are thenneeded to protect the body. Consumption of these dietary fats can thus lead toa selenium deficiency.
Selenium is also essential forthe production of estrogen sulfotranserfase which is the enzyme which breaksdown estrogen. A deficiency of selenium can thus lead to excessive amounts ofestrogen, which may depress thyroid function, and also upset theprogesterone-estrogen balance.
Wallach also lists othereffects of selenium deficiency: anemia (red blood cell fragility), fatigue,muscular weakness, myalgia (muscle pain), muscular dystrophy (white muscle diseasein animals), cardiomyopathy (sudden death in athletes), heart palpitations,irregular heartbeat, liver cirrhosis, pancreatitis, Lou Gehrig's andParkinson's diseases (mercury toxicity), Alzheimer's Disease (high intake ofvegetable oil), sudden infant death syndrome (and possibly"breathlessness" in adults, jj), cancer, multiple sclerosis, andsickle cell anemia.
Selenium is essential for theproduction of testosterone. A deficiency seems to be involved inosteoarthritis. I've found studies linking selenium deficiency to alopecia(hair loss) and to degeneration of the knee joint (seen in Kashin-Beckdisease). Since selenium is necessary to produce GPX which is a majordetoxifier of man-made and environmental toxins, selenium deficiency can leadto chemical and drug sensitivities.
These are some of thenon-thyroidal effects of selenium deficiency. The effects of seleniumdeficiency on thyroidal health is even more interesting. One study I readindicated that in experimental animals, selenium deficiency will increase T3 inthe heart. This may be the reason that selenium deficiency causes heartpalpitations and rapid heart beat, which is common in thyroid disease.
While we've seen that seleniumdeficiency will interfere with T4 to T3 conversion and lead to functionalhypothyroidism (low T3 phenomenon), selenium plays another vital role in thethyroid as part of GPX. During the production of thyroid hormone, hydrogenperoxide (H2O2) is produced. H2O2 is important for the production of thyroidhormone, but excessive amounts lead to high production of thyroxin (T4) andalso damage to the cells of the thyroid. GPX plays the extremely vital role ofdegrading H2O2 and thereby limiting hormone production and preventing damage tothe thyroid cells. This seems to be the main way in which selenium protects thethyroid from sustaining damage which can lead ultimately to cancer.
Without selenium, the thyroidgland becomes damaged and it is through this mechanism that the main seleniumand iodine interactions are found. An iodine deficiency will cause goiter, anenlargement of the thyroid gland produced by the body in an attempt to increasehormone production from limited amount of iodine. Selenium deficiency increasesthe weight of the thyroid in experimental animals, and a selenium deficiencycombined with an iodine deficiency leads to a further increase in thyroidalweight (bigger goiter). In African countries like Zaire, there are areas whereboth iodine and selenium are very scarce in the soil (these deficiencies seemto run parallel in most areas). Consequently a high percentage of the peoplehave goiters and hypothyroidism. An experimental attempt was made to correctthe selenium deficiency and the result was that the hypothyroidism was madeWORSE in the hypos and it produced hypothyroidism in some euthroid subjects.This was entirely unexpected and the experimenters issued a warning aboutsupplementing with selenium (and not iodine) when both deficiencies existconcurrently.
The body has a compensatorymechanism to maintain T3 levels when iodine is deficient--it increases theproduction of the deiodinase Type I enzyme (DI-I). This is not a smallincrease, but has been shown in cattle to be an increase of 10-12 times. Thisincrease in ID-I increases the conversion of the existing T4 to T3 to maintainT3 levels, but also increases the conversion of T3 to T2 (the degradedby-product of T3). Because of the iodine deficiency, T4 is not replenished andT3 ultimately decreases from the lack of sufficient T4 leading to a worseningof the hypothyroidism.
This result is made worse byanother phenomenon which hasn't been thoroughly studied: a selenium deficiencycauses an iodine deficiency to get worse. This may be a protective adaptationby the body to limit the damage caused to the thyroid when selenium isdeficient and iodine is adequate. Let's examine this part of the interaction.
We've all heard that manydoctors tell hypo patients, especially those with Hashimoto's thyroiditis, notto take iodine because it can aggravate their condition. The reason seems to bethat selenium protects the thyroid gland from oxidative damage and this damagecan increase significantly if iodine is supplemented. Taking iodine willincrease thyroid hormone production and the production of H2O2 which damagesthe thyroidal cells. The lack of selenium prevents GPX from being able toprotect the cells from this oxidative damage. While I doubt if most doctorsrealize why iodine should be restricted (it certainly seemed counter-intuitiveto me at first), they have learned through experience that iodine can increasethe thyroid damage in Hashimoto's. The information that selenium should besupplemented along with iodine is so new that most of them are unaware ofit.
Here's what we have: Studieshave shown that if iodine is low, selenium must also be kept low to prevent thehypothyroidism from becoming worse (from increased DI-I and T4 depletion, asexplained above.) So if both minerals are low, then the person is hypo and getsa goiter, but the damage to the thyroid is kept to a minimum. More severeproblems happen when either selenium or iodine is high and the other is low. Ifselenium is high and iodine low, then T4 to T3 to T2 conversion is acceleratedwithout T4 being replenished, leading to a worsening of the hypoT. If iodine ishigh and selenium is low, then H2O2 is not degraded by GPX. Since H2O2 drivesthe thyroid hormone production, then the thyroid over-produces thyroid hormone(Grave's hyperthyroidism), the thyroid is damaged from the oxidation by theH2O2, and the end result is that the damaged thyroid ultimately decreasesactivity and hypothyroidism results (Hashimoto's thyroiditis). This couldexplain the observed progression of Grave's to Hashimoto's.
If a selenium deficiency causesan iodine deficiency, leaving you both selenium and iodine deficient, andsupplementing with either selenium or iodine causes severe problems, then theonly solution is to supplement both selenium and iodine simultaneously andgradually. Even then you could experience an immediate boost (from increasedconversion of T4 to T3) with a subsequent letdown (lack of T4 productionbecause of insufficient iodine or other necessary nutrient). You have to beprepared to ride out the tough times and continue increasing the selenium andiodine until those two deficiencies are corrected and the respective metabolicpathways are back working properly.
Everything that I've read aboutselenium indicates that it is absolutely essential for proper functioning ofthe thyroid. A deficiency of selenium may lead to either hyperthyroidism orhypothyroidism. I've always wondered if high intake of selenium can lead tohyperthyroidism and finally found someone who did the experiment. They foundthat a high intake of selenium will not increase T4 production and lead tohyperthyroidism.
If a person has hyperT, then itlooks like taking selenium without iodine will result in a decrease inproduction of T4 (although there may be an initial transient increase in T4 toT3 conversion and hence higher T3). I would suggest to start with a smallamount of selenium methionine (about 50 mcg) and gradually increase it. Icannot see any way that thyroid function can be normalized without selenium.
For hypos the important messageis that a selenium deficiency may cause an iodine deficiency, so that eventhough you are taking iodine you may not be assimilating it unless selenium isalso being taken. This would explain how people can have iodine deficiencieseven though salt and many foods have iodine added. Supplement with both iodineand selenium. I would recommend starting with 100 mcg of selenium and one kelptablet and gradually work up to 400-600 mcg of selenium and 2-4 tablets ofkelp. [Note from the Green Willow Tree: Our research indicates that there is anupper safety limit of 400 mcg./day for selenium, and we do not recommend takingmore than that amount. Also, kelp is extremely high in iodine, which is goodfor the short term. However, excess iodine consumption long term can actuallydepress thyroid function. Dulse, bladderwrack, and Irish moss--the seaweedsfound in Thyodine--are safer, in our opinion, for long term use.]
While I've found research onthe interactions of iodine and selenium, there are two other minerals whichneed to be studied for their interactions with these two: zinc and copper. Ifound one study which examined the complex interactions of selenium, iodine,and zinc (there are interactions), but none which have looked at all fourminerals in a 4 X 4 factorial design. Now that would be an interesting study!Hopefully someone will do that soon.
I think one lesson fromstudying the interactions of selenium and iodine is that the interrelationshipsbetween minerals are very complicated. Supplementing with one or two can causefurther problems. You have to make sure that you correct every deficiency.Health is built from a chain of nutrients and, like a chain, health cannot beaccomplished if one nutrient is missing. Sometimes it's complicated putting thechain back together without running into problems (like supplementing witheither selenium or iodine, but not both), but every deficiency has to becorrected. -- John
The information in this articleis for educational purposes only, and is not intended as medical advice.

Pasted from <http://www.greenwillowtree.com/Page.bok?file=selenium.iodine.html>


http://emineral.info/emineral/

Dachsie
26th August 2014, 03:43 PM
Ben Fuchs, The Bright Side show, GCNlive.com archives Aug 25 and today Aug 26. he covers ALS and nutritional solutions.

Archives
choose the show by name
then chose those dates

first half of each hour show is where he talks about ALS. Second half hour is for ppl to call in

Serpo
26th August 2014, 03:51 PM
Ice bucket bloopers..........


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQlvW0aFnKo

Ponce
26th August 2014, 06:33 PM
I don't what all this is all about and I really don't care..........but......... a couple of firemen ended up in a hospital whey they did the bucket thing without looking down....there was an electric live wire on the ground that ZAPPPPPP them.

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Shami-Amourae
27th August 2014, 02:09 AM
Finally a happy ending for one of these retards:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOze9m9sHno

Serpo
27th August 2014, 04:24 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/26/1409073725296_Image_galleryImage_A_firefighting_pl ane_drop.JPG

A middle-aged man has been taken to hospital after his friend used a firefighting plane to drop 400 gallons of water on him as part of the Ice Bucket Challenge.
The 51-year-old, from Belgium, was taken to hospital over fears he may have suffered internal injuries during the stunt Empuriabrava aerodrome in Catalonia, Spain.
But doctors have now confirmed he only received minor wounds and is recovering in Girona hospital.





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2734934/Ice-Bucket-Challenge-joker-ends-hospital-friend-uses-firefighter-plane-dump-400-gallons-water-Spain.html